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Posted by: tygaboy Oct 18 2017, 01:56 PM

Trying to figure out who makes this one, is it still available, etc.
Any help appreciated.
Chris


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Posted by: ConeDodger Oct 18 2017, 02:33 PM

My car came with that one. I'm not sure who made it but it is attractive and sadly, I tore it off loading on the trailer one day. Good luck tracking it down. I haven't seen it offered new. If you find one, I'd bet 914Rubber could reproduce it...

Posted by: tygaboy Oct 18 2017, 03:08 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 18 2017, 01:33 PM) *

My car came with that one. I'm not sure who made it but it is attractive and sadly, I tore it off loading on the trailer one day. Good luck tracking it down. I haven't seen it offered new. If you find one, I'd bet 914Rubber could reproduce it...


Rob - I have a fair bit of composite experience. You didn't happen to keep the broken pieces, did you? (Betting not but had to ask...)

Posted by: Cracker Oct 18 2017, 07:07 PM

Doesn't Renegade have something close to that???

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Posted by: Cracker Oct 18 2017, 07:08 PM

Doesn't Renegade have something close to that???

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Posted by: Montreal914 Oct 18 2017, 09:15 PM

This is what I found on Renegade.

Similar concept but not quite what tygaboy is showing.

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From PMS, even closer. Seems to be for flared car.

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Posted by: tygaboy Oct 18 2017, 10:20 PM

I think this one from Patrick is closer. I can rework the opening to approximate the one I'm looking for...


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Posted by: Montreal914 Oct 18 2017, 10:37 PM

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I think this one from Patrick is closer. I can rework the opening to approximate the one I'm looking for...



That looks like your typical GT valance whereas the one pictured in your original post looks like an LE with a cooler opening confused24.gif

Posted by: Krieger Oct 19 2017, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Oct 18 2017, 08:15 PM) *

This is what I found on Renegade.

Similar concept but not quite what tygaboy is showing.

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From PMS, even closer. Seems to be for flared car.

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ohmy.gif $385 plus shipping? That's insane!

Posted by: DBCooper Oct 19 2017, 06:33 PM

I have the QRS GT valance on a watercooled car, works great. Looks slightly different, the standard GT style, http://www.qrsfiberglass.com/shop/porsche-914-gt-fiberglass-front-valance, good quality and only 135 bucks.

Posted by: snakemain Oct 19 2017, 06:41 PM

I'd love to find an LE or similar looking one to that for a flared car, oil cooler opening or not. Saw an awesome custom one a couple years ago at Amelia Island.


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Posted by: JmuRiz Oct 19 2017, 06:49 PM

Good looking valence, I think it used to be referred to as an upside down LE style. Haven't seen one in a long time.

Posted by: tygaboy Oct 19 2017, 06:56 PM

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I have the QRS GT valance on a watercooled car, works great. Looks slightly different, the standard GT style, http://www.qrsfiberglass.com/shop/porsche-914-gt-fiberglass-front-valance, good quality and only 135 bucks.

Awesome, thanks! That looks essentially the same as the Patrick one.
I also noticed that I could access it on the QRS site if I used your link but going directly to the site, it's not listed as a product.
I'll call them and see if it's still available.

Posted by: ConeDodger Oct 19 2017, 06:58 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Oct 18 2017, 06:08 PM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 18 2017, 01:33 PM) *

My car came with that one. I'm not sure who made it but it is attractive and sadly, I tore it off loading on the trailer one day. Good luck tracking it down. I haven't seen it offered new. If you find one, I'd bet 914Rubber could reproduce it...


Rob - I have a fair bit of composite experience. You didn't happen to keep the broken pieces, did you? (Betting not but had to ask...)


Sorry no. We were moving and I got stinkeye from Yopu about boxing up trash! sad.gif

Posted by: Montreal914 Oct 19 2017, 09:06 PM

Back to the thread's original question, who does that version of the LE with cooler opening (post #1)? Custom or available? popcorn[1].gif

Agreed PMS is expensive compared to what is available out there (A.I.R, Getty, others...)


Posted by: tygaboy Oct 20 2017, 08:31 AM

It appears that the item in my original post is NLA.

If anyone has one and is willing to loan it to me so I can pull a mold, I'll happily pay.

Short of that, and unless something used comes up for sale, I'm just going to make my own.

I'll need to get the front flares on the car first but in the end, I'll have a mold and would be able to make these for others who were interested.

But don't hold your breath.

Posted by: john77 Oct 1 2020, 06:25 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241 did you ever end up making this front valance? I was searching for the exact same thing after looking at the one on PMS and google threw up this thread in the search results.



QUOTE(tygaboy @ Oct 20 2017, 07:31 AM) *

It appears that the item in my original post is NLA.

If anyone has one and is willing to loan it to me so I can pull a mold, I'll happily pay.

Short of that, and unless something used comes up for sale, I'm just going to make my own.

I'll need to get the front flares on the car first but in the end, I'll have a mold and would be able to make these for others who were interested.

But don't hold your breath.


Posted by: Chris914n6 Oct 1 2020, 09:26 PM

Looks like they cut the center of an LE and slid it down flush, then filled in the transitions.

Posted by: Montreal914 Nov 29 2021, 09:19 PM

Reviving this old thread @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241 .

A front valance like the one you originally posted 4 years ago is currently for sale on eBay but definitely not cheap... dry.gif No mention as to who is the manufacturer though... sad.gif

Here are the pictures from the eBay add for posterity and the link which will obviously become obsolete in the near future.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/283622987864?hash=item42093f5858:g:urwAAOSwt~NdiRhI

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 30 2021, 07:45 AM

Man, that is a terrific looking valance for the flared front cooler cars. wub.gif

Posted by: tygaboy Nov 30 2021, 10:59 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=12023 - Thanks for the heads up! I'v put in an offer on that ebay auction so we'll see. If I do end up with it, I'll work get get a mold made so others can get this style, too.
Thanks again! aktion035.gif
Chris

Posted by: Montreal914 Nov 30 2021, 09:30 PM

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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=12023 - Thanks for the heads up! I'v put in an offer on that ebay auction so we'll see. If I do end up with it, I'll work get get a mold made so others can get this style, too.
Thanks again! aktion035.gif
Chris


That valance had caught my eye wub.gif when you originally posted it. I searched everywhere I could to find the manufacturer but found nothing.

Good luck on your bidding! Maybe the replica of this nice piece will be available to our community in the future! smile.gif

Please keep us posted of the outcome. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Van B Nov 30 2021, 09:34 PM

Did you win??

Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 30 2021, 10:25 PM

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Did you win??


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Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 30 2021, 10:58 PM

There's another thread on that spoiler
I think it was last seen or produced by Chris Foley at Tangerine racing.

Pics are of my DIY version.....before and after

sorry about the cluttered before picture....It's the only one I have


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Posted by: tygaboy Dec 1 2021, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Van B @ Nov 30 2021, 10:34 PM) *

Did you win??


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I've not yet heard back from the seller re: my offer. Sounds like there are others who'd want one so if my offer is rejected, maybe I just go all in on the Buy it Now price and make/sell a few to recoup some costs. idea.gif

Like I don't have enough going on already... laugh.gif

EDIT: I love how things work! Literally as soon as I hit "Add This" for my above post, I got an email that my offer was accepted! BIG thanks to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=12023 for spotting the auction!

Be nice to me and maybe I'll pull a mold and make these available.

Posted by: Montreal914 Dec 1 2021, 12:02 PM

Congratulations! smilie_pokal.gif Very happy this worked out! Now it is among our group! sunglasses.gif

If you ever get to make these, please let me know. smile.gif

Posted by: Van B Dec 1 2021, 12:10 PM

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Be nice to me and maybe I'll pull a mold and make these available.


What if I tell you that you're pretty and your hair looks nice and then you make a custom mold for us flat 4 folks???

Posted by: tygaboy Dec 6 2021, 05:34 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=12023 - Thanks again for alerting me to the ebay auction. I owe you!

The valance arrived today and a quick "hold it in place" test suggests it's a REALLY nice fit everywhere, even at the flares. It looks to be a very nice piece with no work needed before installing. Rare in the world of 914 fiberglass parts!

I'll get it mounted in a day or so and post some pics.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=26011 I figured you'd want to know, too.

Posted by: Van B Dec 6 2021, 05:48 PM

Stoked for you man! I love those rare finds!
I really do hope it’s practical for you to tweak the mold to make some “unflared” versions for the 4 cylinder cars! I know it’s work, but if it looks as good as I think it will, I bet there’s legit profit in the endeavor.

Van

Posted by: Montreal914 Dec 6 2021, 06:07 PM

Take and post more pictures of the valance prior to installation too in various angles.

Happy this worked out for you! beerchug.gif

I am trying to establish what I will use for valance with a cooler opening. I like my LE replica and I have been studying what others have done Googling everywhere. That is how I actually ran into the eBay add. I immediately recognized it and dug up your thread.

Another nice candidate is the one from PMS, especially with the flush mounted grill, but he doesn't offer it for non-flared cars. I know he's obviously not the one glassing it, but I know it's proprietary.

Fun stuff! smile.gif


Posted by: snakemain Dec 6 2021, 08:57 PM

I am 100% in for one if they're reproduced. My car has been naked in the front for the past 6 years because nobody makes a flared front valance except for the GT one.

Posted by: Montreal914 Dec 6 2021, 10:45 PM

Well, there's PMS that has this nice one... smile.gif

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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 7 2021, 07:34 AM

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Well, there's PMS that has this nice one... smile.gif

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That's very nice. Simple, no frills

Posted by: tygaboy Dec 7 2021, 08:11 AM

Crappy MS Paint skills aside, here's what I'm planning for my H2O build.


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Posted by: Krieger Dec 7 2021, 08:41 AM

An appropriate name for this valence would be the LE GT or GT LE

Posted by: The Double S Dec 7 2021, 08:49 AM

Both look really good.

Posted by: Montreal914 Dec 7 2021, 09:20 AM

Very nice integration of the larger needed opening Tygaboy. smile.gif

Although both valances discussed here are somewhat based on the LE design concept, they both share a important change in the shape. The fact that the lower line is continuous adds surface to the front allowing to create the opening on the upper part and keep a nice balance in the overall appearance.

LE valance on a faded paint car rolleyes.gif
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PMS' seems to be very tight with the bumper and I suspect that, unlike the standard or LE valance, it is also attached to the lower edge of the front bumper. I believe we can see holes on the upper fold in this picture. Minimizing that gap and having that grill flush really blends the hole front, maybe something to keep in mind... idea.gif

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Posted by: tygaboy Dec 7 2021, 01:02 PM

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Take and post more pictures of the valance prior to installation too in various angles.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=12023 - Well, OK then!


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Posted by: tygaboy Dec 7 2021, 01:02 PM

And a couple more.


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Posted by: Montreal914 Dec 7 2021, 03:33 PM

Excellent! smile.gif

Thank you for the added pictures! beerchug.gif

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