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Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 01:51 PM

Narrow or stock body fenders Car , 4 bolt real fuchs or 2liter wheels

Has 195/60r 15 on it now
Netto touring front (still tread enough but are like 8 years old )
Continental touring rear ( tread is pretty low also old but in good shape)


I beginning to realize a tire failure on these cars could be especially dangerous



Cause lets face it a 914 gets driven harder then
A toyota



I dont want to roll the fender lips and the clearance with current tire size is already tight


Budget pretty wide open since i want something reliable or high quality ?


Posted by: mepstein Oct 31 2017, 02:10 PM

See whats available in 195x65x15 or 205x60x15 unless you like the size you have. Both should fit a stock car with 2.0 Fuchs. Between whats available and some online reviews, you should be able to narrow it down pretty quickly.

Posted by: johnhora Oct 31 2017, 02:29 PM

www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some research

quite a few flavors in the sizes mentioned above

Posted by: ThreeV8s Oct 31 2017, 02:32 PM

I bought Firestone Firehawk AS tires last week that still need to get mounted, but there is feedback about them and others in the thread below. They are one of a small group of "high performance all season" tires in 195/65 R15 and the tire rack reviews are pretty good. There are a few other similar tires on the tire rack in this size.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=316241&st=40#

Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(johnhora @ Oct 31 2017, 01:29 PM) *

www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some research

quite a few flavors in the sizes mentioned above




I thought about ordering from here
But wasn't sure 100% about size
And i never bought tires online before

I think they had some pirells for like 200 a tire
I was thinking about it screwy.gif

Posted by: mepstein Oct 31 2017, 02:47 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 04:40 PM) *

QUOTE(johnhora @ Oct 31 2017, 01:29 PM) *

www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some research

quite a few flavors in the sizes mentioned above




I thought about ordering from here
But wasn't sure 100% about size
And i never bought tires online before

I think they had some pirells for like 200 a tire
I was thinking about it screwy.gif

We have a tire rack warehouse close by so we can pick up. They give shops a 15-20% discount so almost all our tires come from the rack.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Oct 31 2017, 02:48 PM

Tire Rack is a great source and can have the tires drop shipped to your local tire store. They also have(had?) a list of recommended installers.

I’m running 195/65-15 on my car and have been quite happy with that size and looks.

Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 02:49 PM

This place is right down the road from me



Coker tires


Anybody know them

https://www.cokertire.com/

Posted by: JOEPROPER Oct 31 2017, 02:54 PM

Conti Pro Contacts on mine. P195/65R15. They work fine, look right on my car and they're not expensive.

Posted by: My 914 Oct 31 2017, 03:02 PM

I have always had good luck with Tire Rack going back many years. Reviews on their site are accurate and even if you don't use them, they're a good place to check prices.

Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 03:09 PM

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?

Posted by: Larmo63 Oct 31 2017, 03:13 PM

205/60s look a little like donuts on a 4 lug Fuchs wheel. My 6 x 15 five lug wheels hold the tire width better.

195s might be the call?

I'm running Yokohamas.

Posted by: mgphoto Oct 31 2017, 03:17 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 01:49 PM) *

This place is right down the road from me



Coker tires


Anybody know them

https://www.cokertire.com/


They are know for period correct tires using modern technology.
The XWX's are a period correct tire for the 914 but priced at $390 a tire!

maybe for a cw?

Posted by: mgphoto Oct 31 2017, 03:22 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.

Posted by: GregAmy Oct 31 2017, 03:44 PM

I agonized over sizes for a couple months. Did the research*, used all the tire calcs, so forth. Decided to go with Firehawk AS 195/60-15 as a compromise between the theoretically optimal size and some performance.

I've driven around several hundred miles recently, comparing indicated speedo to a GPS app for actual speed. With these tires the difference is less than 5%. For example, at a GPS-indicated speed of 72, I'm apparently actually doing 69 mph. Close enough for gov't work.

I'm using a recently-installed, known-good 120mph speedo I got from Garrold. Your miles-per-hour may vary... lol.

*From various source, our original 15" size was "165R15"? What, did we carry them on a pin mounted to a rack just behind the front fender, with a couple of "tire irons" held on with buckled-leather straps...?

Closest is apparently 195/65-15.

Posted by: arne Oct 31 2017, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Oct 31 2017, 02:13 PM) *

205/60s look a little like donuts on a 4 lug Fuchs wheel. My 6 x 15 five lug wheels hold the tire width better.

195s might be the call?

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While 205 width tires are rated as ok on 5.5” wheels, they look too pinched on a wheel that narrow to me. I did like how the 195/65-15 fit both the car and the wheels.

Posted by: Coondog Oct 31 2017, 04:22 PM


Just go to America’s Tire, look at all there choices, fit a couple sizes and make your decision.

Easy as 1-2-3

Posted by: DM_2000 Oct 31 2017, 05:08 PM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Oct 31 2017, 05:44 PM) *


*From various source, our original 15" size was "165R15"?


From what I recall, these are ever so slightly taller than a 165-85-15

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Oct 31 2017, 05:44 PM) *

What, did we carry them on a pin mounted to a rack just behind the front fender, with a couple of "tire irons" held on with buckled-leather straps...?



What, no side view mirror strapped to the top of the spare tire?

Posted by: mmichalik Oct 31 2017, 06:00 PM

I decided to run Pirelli P4 195-65-15's on mine. Like one of the posters above, I figured it would be a good cross between performance and ride.

On tire rack, they are only $98.00 a piece as well.

Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 02:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.





Spiffy is right


Best non all season tires i see so far

The rest seem all pretty much same


Posted by: thelogo Oct 31 2017, 06:55 PM

This look cool and expensive

My luck they would rub , 205/50 15


http://m.nittotire.com/competition-tires/nt01-dot-compliant-competition-road-course-tire/

Posted by: ThreeV8s Oct 31 2017, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.

Not sure about the legitimacy of that listing, as those tires only come in one size (245/40 R18) and they are $345/tire per the Dunlop website.

http://www.dunloptires.com/en-US/tires/sp-sport-600-tires

Posted by: 914 7T3 Oct 31 2017, 08:28 PM

The majority of my tire purchases are from Tire Rack. Shipping is from NV to CA so there is no applicable sales tax, but the cost of shipping makes it a wash. They can drop ship to ASAP Tire that is a mobile installer that comes right to you in a van with full mounting and balancing capabilities. Super Convenient.

Tire Rack also includes full road hazard warranty with all purchases which is another value added. They also advised against the Dunlops and Yokohamas as being an older design and not offering better performance for the increased cost.

For whatever reason the set of General Altimax RT 43s on my 914 were less money at America's Tire at $64.00 per, but a real pain in the ass to go hang out there while their installers move at a snails pace.

Tire size is 195 65 15s and the Altimax RT 43s are quite good for the price, keeping in mind that noise level and wet performance are irrelevant as the car is only driven on nice days with the roof off.





Posted by: arne Oct 31 2017, 08:42 PM

QUOTE(ThreeV8s @ Oct 31 2017, 06:19 PM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.

Not sure about the legitimacy of that listing, as those tires only come in one size (245/40 R18) and they are $345/tire per the Dunlop website.

http://www.dunloptires.com/en-US/tires/sp-sport-600-tires

Well, the Simpletire page shows 3 sizes, including the big 18”. Wouldn’t surprise me if Dunlop’s webpage doesn’t get updated regularly.

And MSRP for tires is one of the biggest jokes out there. Street prices of most tires are a small fraction of the official MSRP.

Actually, if it really is available, I like it. Nice to see a modern summer tire in this size.

Posted by: infraredcalvin Nov 1 2017, 12:09 AM

problem with online order is that you still have to get them mounted and balanced. I’ve found that if I find a tire on tire rack, go to a shop and ask for their best price, their out the door price (tax, mount balance, warranty) is usually close (sometimes less) than tire racks price for tires and shipping.

I just went to Tucker Tire out here in OC (after hearing so many recos), Out the door they were over 100 less that TR price before shipping. I think I’m a customer for life now...

Posted by: ThreeV8s Nov 1 2017, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(arne @ Oct 31 2017, 10:42 PM) *

QUOTE(ThreeV8s @ Oct 31 2017, 06:19 PM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.

Not sure about the legitimacy of that listing, as those tires only come in one size (245/40 R18) and they are $345/tire per the Dunlop website.

http://www.dunloptires.com/en-US/tires/sp-sport-600-tires

Well, the Simpletire page shows 3 sizes, including the big 18”. Wouldn’t surprise me if Dunlop’s webpage doesn’t get updated regularly.

And MSRP for tires is one of the biggest jokes out there. Street prices of most tires are a small fraction of the official MSRP.

Actually, if it really is available, I like it. Nice to see a modern summer tire in this size.

I called simpletire out of curiosity since my new tires haven't been mounted yet. They called the warehouse to verify that they have 46 tires, some with date codes back to 2016. I couldn't find these tires anywhere else in the US or much information about them. Could be an interesting choice being that they are summer tires, but hard to say. Dunlop makes some great tires and some that are not. Probably a risk worth taking at that price.

Posted by: thelogo Nov 1 2017, 02:49 PM

Just seem to me like everyone here has settled
For all seasons tires


I just think if any car could benefit from summer or
Performance tires

Its a 914


As im finding out its a bit of a challenge finding
Tires this small in anything but all season

Or touring




Posted by: thelogo Nov 1 2017, 02:49 PM

Shout out to the cheap sob

Posted by: arne Nov 1 2017, 03:26 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Nov 1 2017, 01:49 PM) *

Just seem to me like everyone here has settled
For all seasons tires

For year-round driving here in Western Oregon, yes, I do use all seasons, even on my 911. I drive too much in the cold and wet to not do so.

If I lived in SoCal, I’d be looking for summer tires, for sure. Which is why those Dunlops seem worth a look.

Posted by: thelogo Nov 1 2017, 10:38 PM

Yeh i wouldn't think a 911 in w.Oregon winter
Would do to well with summer tires

But in l.a i think i could get away with it

Although ive never had a car with summer tires maybe these

https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgeXf6Y2f1wIVBpd-Ch2ZtwfBEAQYCCABEgIIXPD_BwE&tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R1R&partnum=95VR5PR1RV2&GCID=C13674x012-tire&KEYWORD=tires.jsp_Toyo_Proxes_R1R_Tire&code=yes&src=17540115&ci_sku=95VR5PR1RV2&ci_sku=95VR5PR1RV2&ci_src=17588969&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!72322456933!!!g!99873505933!&ef_id=WCj90AAAAK0M@ROx:20171102050058:s

Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 3 2018, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(ThreeV8s @ Nov 1 2017, 11:12 AM) *

QUOTE(arne @ Oct 31 2017, 10:42 PM) *

QUOTE(ThreeV8s @ Oct 31 2017, 06:19 PM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 05:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.



Not sure about the legitimacy of that listing, as those tires only come in one size (245/40 R18) and they are $345/tire per the Dunlop website.

http://www.dunloptires.com/en-US/tires/sp-sport-600-tires

Well, the Simpletire page shows 3 sizes, including the big 18”. Wouldn’t surprise me if Dunlop’s webpage doesn’t get updated regularly.

And MSRP for tires is one of the biggest jokes out there. Street prices of most tires are a small fraction of the official MSRP.

Actually, if it really is available, I like it. Nice to see a modern summer tire in this size.

I called simpletire out of curiosity since my new tires haven't been mounted yet. They called the warehouse to verify that they have 46 tires, some with date codes back to 2016. I couldn't find these tires anywhere else in the US or much information about them. Could be an interesting choice being that they are summer tires, but hard to say. Dunlop makes some great tires and some that are not. Probably a risk worth taking at that price.


I don't normally dig up old threads, but has anyone actually purchased these tires?

I will need tires in the spring and am determined to stay on 195/65R15's but want a summer tire if they exist.

I have found a couple of other unicorns (sticky tires offered in 195/65 that are not on the manufacturers site) and contacted the manufacturers, but have not heard back yet.

I don't really trust a distributor to say they have them only to find out what they have is not what is pictured and then have to go through the disappointment and return shipping hassle.

Thanks,

Scott

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 3 2018, 03:54 PM

195/65x15 for handling and overall performance, 165x15 for original ride, and smoothness (wider tires feel the bumps more)

Do not put 205/60x15 on the stock 5.5 because they bulge off the rims too much and cause the Jello effect when entering and exiting curves. (even with a high speed tire with strong sidewalls)


quote name='thelogo' date='Oct 31 2017, 12:51 PM' post='2543934']
Narrow or stock body fenders Car , 4 bolt real fuchs or 2liter wheels

Has 195/60r 15 on it now
Netto touring front (still tread enough but are like 8 years old )
Continental touring rear ( tread is pretty low also old but in good shape)


I beginning to realize a tire failure on these cars could be especially dangerous



Cause lets face it a 914 gets driven harder then
A toyota



I dont want to roll the fender lips and the clearance with current tire size is already tight


Budget pretty wide open since i want something reliable or high quality ?
[/quote]

Posted by: thelogo Dec 3 2018, 07:33 PM

I ended up with cooper cs4 s

195,65,15

Posted by: JamesM Dec 4 2018, 01:24 AM

Im thinking of giving these a shot when my bumblebee goes back together.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Vredestein&tireModel=Sprint+Classic&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=6HR5SC&tab=Specs


Modern summer compound in a vintage mold and proper size. Also 195s are to wide for stock 914 wheels. Having a tread width wider than your wheel width negatively impacts handling. Stick with in the 155-185 range depending on what wheel you are running.



Posted by: euro911 Dec 4 2018, 01:48 AM

I typically ran 195/65-15 on 5.5" wheels on the 'BB' (2.1L). Really liked the Kumho tires .... they have a nice grip, wear well and they're not real expensive.

I'm gonna try out Pirelli P6 185/65-15 on the '71 as it's only a 1.9L - maybe a little more nimble ride than 195s.


Posted by: Racer Dec 4 2018, 06:50 AM

The only real "performance" tires are 205/50-15s. The rest are all "all season" compromise tires that, while said, are still 1000% better than 165 radials or period correct bias ply tires, but nothing to write home about if performance is the goal.

My -6 has 14" rims... and the only street performance tire is the Falken Azenis 615 blah blah in a 195/60-14.

Choices are limited for a 50 year old car. The only reason 205/50-15s are still available is the Miata.

Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 4 2018, 08:57 AM

QUOTE(Racer @ Dec 4 2018, 07:50 AM) *

The only real "performance" tires are 205/50-15s. The rest are all "all season" compromise tires that, while said, are still 1000% better than 165 radials or period correct bias ply tires, but nothing to write home about if performance is the goal.

My -6 has 14" rims... and the only street performance tire is the Falken Azenis 615 blah blah in a 195/60-14.

Choices are limited for a 50 year old car. The only reason 205/50-15s are still available is the Miata.


This is why I brought this thread back to life Dave.

I like the way the car looks with 15" rims and 195/65's are close to the original diameter, which is great for gearing, the speedo, and the proper amount of sidewall on and old car (IMO). I will also agree with George that 205's are too wide for stock rims and 205/50's have an almost 2" smaller diameter than 195/65's.

I want a tires with an aggressive looking summer tread, and more grip than all-season tires have.

I do a few AX days every year, but do not want to buy/bring/change a second set of rims with low profile HP tires. Yes I can and have on all-season tires, but don't see anything wrong with wanting more grip.

While I will agree there are no DOT R-Spec tires in 195/65 I have found what I am calling "unicorn" 195/65 summer tires.

The Dunlop 600 tires posted last year is one example - there are others!

So I was wondering/hoping someone actually purchased a 195/65 summer tire that they can report on....

Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 4 2018, 03:44 PM

The RT43s are also available in 185/65r15 at reasonable prices. Good fitment on 5.5" wheels with providing what should be adequate fender clearance.

Posted by: euro911 Dec 4 2018, 04:38 PM

Comparisons ...

Dry & wet roads:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=AltiMAX+RT43+%28T-Speed+Rated%29



Ice & snow:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/videoDisplay.jsp?ttid=215&videoID=478

Posted by: bandjoey Dec 4 2018, 04:48 PM

Continental PureContact™
Good buy at Discount Tire. As a daily driver and one long event a year, it's a great tire. 70k life, 60 day free trial, and 3 years roadside for flats. H 130mph rated
195-65-r15


Posted by: thelogo Dec 4 2018, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 4 2018, 02:48 PM) *

Continental PureContact™
Good buy at Discount Tire. As a daily driver and one long event a year, it's a great tire. 70k life, 60 day free trial, and 3 years roadside for flats. H 130mph rated
195-65-r15















WTF.gif


How much is the only detail you didn't mention? $

Posted by: 74 sunflower 914 Dec 4 2018, 05:33 PM

There are some decent performance-oriented tires in the 205/55/15 size at tirerack. I believe that is the OEM size front tire for the Elise.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Dec 4 2018, 05:39 PM

Of all places, I checked Walmart’s site and they have tons of tires in 195/65-15. A friend just put the Cooper tires on his 911 and is quite happy with them.

Posted by: euro911 Dec 4 2018, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Dec 4 2018, 03:24 PM) *
QUOTE(bandjoey) *
Continental PureContact™
Good buy at Discount Tire. As a daily driver and one long event a year, it's a great tire. 70k life, 60 day free trial, and 3 years roadside for flats. H 130mph rated
195-65-r15

WTF.gif


How much is the only detail you didn't mention? $
Google is your friend ... https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/continental-pure-contact/p/14001
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Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 6 2018, 10:26 AM

So after taking a deeper dive and reaching out to some of the manufacturers via social media here is what I have found.

It seems all of the summer tires in a 195/65-15 are out of production, certainly all of the ones below are.

I did not reach out to Dunlop, but the aggressive looking SP SPORT 600 shown here:
https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Looks like and all-season tread when I search for actual images in the wild:
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjQ5WDQwMA==/z/WKwAAOSwd6VZoEE8/$_20.JPG

Next up is the Toyo Proxes 1. Other than confirming it is discontinued, and offering me tires I already explained I didn’t want and why, they pretty much bailed on me.
Amazon has a few of them left:
https://www.amazon.com/Toyo-Proxes-Performance-Radial-Tire/dp/B076Y63NF2

I could not find actual pictures of this size in the wild, but suspect it looks like the Toyo Proxes C1S:
https://static.baza.farpost.ru/v/1487426191481_bulletin

The most helpful so far has been Accelera tires. They have confirmed that this tire has been out of production for 5 years.
https://americaswheel.com/195-65-15-accelera-651-91v-bsw.html?year=1967&make=&model=&category=Tires&page=3&part_number=1200000046

I have asked them to confirm the UTQG. And a search for it in the wild confirms the aggressive tread pattern.
http://warriorbali.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Ban-Accelera-651-300x169.jpg

Can’t get hurt at this price either so I may give it a go.

Finally we have the Goodyear Excellence:
https://www.amazon.com/Goodyear-Excellence-Summer-Radial-Tire/dp/B00F6I3QXE
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/goodyear-excellence-195-65r15-91h/prod2390184.ip

Doesn’t do it for me and they are very expensive.


Posted by: JFG Dec 6 2018, 10:44 AM

i have avon zt5's on mine. stick to the road like shit to a blanket. windy / twisty country & mountain lanes recently was an epic drive. mix of damp & dry surfaces didn't make a difference.

my golf (rabbit?) has them on too and that gets a thrashing sometimes, again lots of confidence in them.

Posted by: Jamie Dec 6 2018, 11:09 AM

I have been running Michelin Pilot Exalto 205x65x15" on my original steel 5.5" rims for several years. They have been outstanding in all season "spirited" driving conditions, and are a very close diameter match to original 165x15" but do rub a bit inside the well when turned to full lock. Came from Tire Rack as my usual source but don"t recall price.

Posted by: Wyvern Dec 6 2018, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 02:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.


These do look interesting ... Only the 18" have a UTQG 3 . It is 200 .
If the 15s had the same rating I would be very interested

Posted by: RolinkHaus Dec 6 2018, 03:07 PM

Anyone have an opinion on these? Looking to fit 195/50/15's.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Sport+COMP-2&partnum=95VR5GFSPC2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Attached pic are tires I am selling. Bridgestone Potenza's 205/60/15


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Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 6 2018, 05:40 PM

QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Dec 6 2018, 04:07 PM) *

Anyone have an opinion on these? Looking to fit 195/50/15's.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Sport+COMP-2&partnum=95VR5GFSPC2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Attached pic are tires I am selling. Bridgestone Potenza's 205/60/15

195/50 diameter is too small, looks bad, makes 1st gear useless, and adds a lot of revs at speed

Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 6 2018, 05:42 PM

QUOTE(Wyvern @ Dec 6 2018, 02:33 PM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 31 2017, 02:22 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Oct 31 2017, 02:09 PM) *

These are cool

https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195-65r15-dp19515-tires?stmodel=sp-sport-600&stcategory=summer&sttype=passenger&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfmhxeGb1wIVx4J-Ch19jQphEAQYDSABEgKvGfD_BwE

Look like moto tires ?


Dunlop SP Sport 600
P195/65R-15
That looks like a pretty spiffy tire, if you get a set let us know how you like them!
I'm gonna need new rubber in 15k or so.


These do look interesting ... Only the 18" have a UTQG 3 . It is 200 .
If the 15s had the same rating I would be very interested


They don't have those ratings and don't look like the picture. See my post above

Posted by: VaccaRabite Dec 7 2018, 07:45 AM

QUOTE(Jamie @ Dec 6 2018, 12:09 PM) *

I have been running Michelin Pilot Exalto 205x65x15" on my original steel 5.5" rims for several years. They have been outstanding in all season "spirited" driving conditions, and are a very close diameter match to original 165x15" but do rub a bit inside the well when turned to full lock. Came from Tire Rack as my usual source but don"t recall price.

I've also been running a 205x65x15 (but not as nice a tire) and I really like the size. It gets you pretty close to the original diameter and a bit bigger contact patch. Though on mine the sidewalls are a bit soft, which I can only tell when I AX the car.


Zach

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 7 2018, 07:48 AM

Well....since I am going to be picking up my wheels from Weidman in the next week or two, I will begin looking for an appropriate tire for my Six. I had Weidman widen my deep sixes by 1" so they are now 15"x7" rims. They were widened on the back side so from the front the look 100% original for a deep six wheel. They are finished as factory too. I am in California so no snow and apparently not a lot of rain. Of course, I do not plan on driving in inclement weather, but other than that will drive the car regularly. I am thinking that a 215x65x15 would fit the rim well and look correct on the car. What do you all think? confused24.gif My bias is a nice looking, performance tire- I love Michelins and have their new 4S Sport on my Audi S3 and it is a terrific tire.

Oh, in case you are wondering, I widened the wheels because with the 3.2 I thought having a tiny bit more rubber on the rear would be worth it. I did all 4 so I could rotate them. I had to leave the spare a stock deep six so it would fit the collapsable tire and still fit the trunk vertically. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mepstein Dec 7 2018, 08:00 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Dec 7 2018, 08:48 AM) *

Well....since I am going to be picking up my wheels from Weidman in the next week or two, I will begin looking for an appropriate tire for my Six. I had Weidman widen my deep sixes by 1" so they are now 15"x7" rims. They were widened on the back side so from the front the look 100% original for a deep six wheel. They are finished as factory too. I am in California so no snow and apparently not a lot of rain. Of course, I do not plan on driving in inclement weather, but other than that will drive the car regularly. I am thinking that a 215x65x15 would fit the rim well and look correct on the car. What do you all think? confused24.gif My bias is a nice looking, performance tire- I love Michelins and have their new 4S Sport on my Audi S3 and it is a terrific tire.

Oh, in case you are wondering, I widened the wheels because with the 3.2 I thought having a tiny bit more rubber on the rear would be worth it. I did all 4 so I could rotate them. I had to leave the spare a stock deep six so it would fit the collapsable tire and still fit the trunk vertically. beerchug.gif

I would have Harvey install the tires. He'll take the correct care with the wheels.
the 215x65 sound a little tall but it all depends on the look you are going for.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 7 2018, 09:17 AM

So maybe, if it can be found, a 215x60x15? I like the idea of Harvey actually mounting the tires and balancing too. I will have to see what he suggests. Thanks Mark. beerchug.gif

Posted by: scott_in_nh Dec 7 2018, 09:23 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Dec 7 2018, 10:17 AM) *

So maybe, if it can be found, a 215x60x15? I like the idea of Harvey actually mounting the tires and balancing too. I will have to see what he suggests. Thanks Mark. beerchug.gif


If you can fit the 215, 60 would be the best sidewall ratio.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Dec 7 2018, 04:10 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Dec 7 2018, 05:48 AM) *

Well....since I am going to be picking up my wheels from Weidman in the next week or two, I will begin looking for an appropriate tire for my Six. I had Weidman widen my deep sixes by 1" so they are now 15"x7" rims. They were widened on the back side so from the front the look 100% original for a deep six wheel. They are finished as factory too. I am in California so no snow and apparently not a lot of rain. Of course, I do not plan on driving in inclement weather, but other than that will drive the car regularly. I am thinking that a 215x65x15 would fit the rim well and look correct on the car. What do you all think? confused24.gif My bias is a nice looking, performance tire- I love Michelins and have their new 4S Sport on my Audi S3 and it is a terrific tire.

Oh, in case you are wondering, I widened the wheels because with the 3.2 I thought having a tiny bit more rubber on the rear would be worth it. I did all 4 so I could rotate them. I had to leave the spare a stock deep six so it would fit the collapsable tire and still fit the trunk vertically. beerchug.gif



^ This is the route I've been thinking about (I'm on Avon CR6ZZ 185/70s on deep sixes right now, and don't love the setup for a street car).

I think you will be rewarded with your 215/60 on 15x7 setup given your engine plans. That's the standard rear tire size for a 1984-1988 Carrera 3.2, at all four corners on a lighter car, and tires are better now than they were in the 1980s. And, with a strong 2.2, I am already thinking about wider tires—so you will probably want 205s or 215s. I too am partial to Michelin, but the 4S (running those on my 911) and A/S3 (which transformed my Abarth) aren't available in 914 sizing last I checked. In 215/60R15, I'd look at the P6000 N2 summer tires, and then the various Michelin offerings (though I think these are all passenger all-season tires).

I test fit a P6000 on a real 15x7R here (post #34/35): http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=239516&st=20

It "fit" under stock fenders, but not really. Came to the conclusion that I'd need to move a brake line, space the wheel a bit more, and/or pull the fender. It can definitely be done, but I chickened out and came to the conclusion I'll stick with 6s and 185/70, 195/65, 205/60, or 205/55. Maybe 215s are something down the road. YMMV.

Another option to consider, if the fenders will accept them: 225/50R15 Toyos on your 7s. Will look pretty Ginther, but that's no bad thing…

Posted by: steuspeed Dec 7 2018, 05:48 PM

What don't you like about the CR6ZZ for street set-up?

Posted by: steuspeed Dec 7 2018, 05:49 PM

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