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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Super deal on /6 conversion

Posted by: lapuwali May 25 2005, 10:30 AM

http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/75220195.html

Appears to be a running, but very rough car. Could easily be broken up for at least $4000 in parts.

Posted by: grantsfo May 25 2005, 10:50 AM

QUOTE (lapuwali @ May 25 2005, 08:30 AM)
http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/75220195.html

Appears to be a running, but very rough car. Could easily be broken up for at least $4000 in parts.

No keys and no paperwork?

Posted by: 736conver May 25 2005, 10:50 AM

I wish I lived on the west coast. This is cheap. If they are weber carbs you just broke even.

Sweet deal for someone

Posted by: jkeyzer May 25 2005, 11:03 AM

I always feel bad when you guys cross post this stuff on 914club.

You are hurting the people who take the time to scan Craigslist every day in search of a 914 bargain. Once a post like this hits the club, 50 highly motivated people all run at once to buy. It benefits the seller tremendously but not the avg Joe buyer. Same thing is true of ebay auctions. Cross posting on the club is the best free advertising a seller could ever get, especially when it's a "diamond in the rough" deal like this one could be.

Anyone else have opinions about this?
Disclaimer: I am just griping out loud, no personal offense meant to ANYONE by what I say.

Posted by: lapuwali May 25 2005, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (grantsfo @ May 25 2005, 08:50 AM)

QUOTE (lapuwali @ May 25 2005, 08:30 AM)
http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/75220195.html

Appears to be a running, but very rough car. Could easily be broken up for at least $4000 in parts.

No keys and no paperwork?

Hence the parts car status. Just the front wheels are worth $400. The 911S front suspension is $600-800. The engine is $1000 at a minimum. If it has 914/6 HEs, those are nearly $1000 even in rough shape. Webers 40IDA3s are $1200 a set even in terrible condition. Solexes or Zeniths would still be worth $500 or so.

If I had the space to store the tub for awhile, I'd grab this myself.

Posted by: ! May 25 2005, 11:05 AM

Jkeyzer....

Probably one the biggest reasons I got oyut of buying and selling....

Posted by: tat2dphreak May 25 2005, 11:09 AM

most people looking for 914 info and cars have found this site, and probably scan this site as much as craigslist... I don't think anyone is hurt by cross posting... maybe that's just me... no offense taken though... the seller DOES get a greater advantage, but I don't think the buyer is hurt...

if I have spare parts and I put them on samba, here and pelican for sale, is that unfair to the buyers on this club? or is that unfair to the person who only looks for parts on pelican? how is it unfair to any of the buyers? no...it's fair is it not smart as a seller to want your item seen?

but if I post parts for sale here, and someone sees them, and postes them on pelican, so the pelican people have a better shot, how is that unfair to anyone? I just don't get it...

Posted by: Howard May 25 2005, 11:12 AM

Huh? With all due respect...
This link has been posted twice, and I think it's good for the club. If the one who finds it first (Craig) doesn't want it, he passes it on to the rest of us to kinda keep it in the family.

It looks like a great project. Now if I just had the room, or was even a half assed mechanic... Mikey, get a vin and do a search. If it's not #4's brother, let's get it

Posted by: airsix May 25 2005, 11:16 AM

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ May 25 2005, 09:03 AM)
I always feel bad when you guys cross post this stuff on 914club.

You are hurting the people who take the time to scan Craigslist every day in search of a 914 bargain. Once a post like this hits the club, 50 highly motivated people all run at once to buy. It benefits the seller tremendously but not the avg Joe buyer. Same thing is true of ebay auctions. Cross posting on the club is the best free advertising a seller could ever get, especially when it's a "diamond in the rough" deal like this one could be.

Anyone else have opinions about this?
Disclaimer: I am just griping out loud, no personal offense meant to ANYONE by what I say.

You might feel this way because you're a buyer, not a seller. (I'm not a seller either, but...) We live in a free-market economy. The more effectively you link up buyers and sellers the more efficient the market is. The more efficient the market is the more it's fair. By fair I mean that the benefits of commerce are not weighted in favor of one group or another. If buyers are kept in the dark so the few can get "a steal" you can see that the result is a few buyers benefit at the expense of the seller. What you're saying is "I want a small group of buyers to have an unfair advantage." This mentalilty can get you a good deal in the short run, but harms the market. Commerce must be mutually beneficial to both buyers and sellers or the market will fail. If sellers find that they can't get fair prices they stop selling. Then both the buyers and sellers suffer. If sellers can easily connect with buyers and get fair prices they will continue to sell. Buyers and sellers both get what they wanted, the market grows, and we all reap the benefits.

-Ben M.

ps - the whole reason for the Craigslist/Ebay sucess is due to how efficiently they link up buers/sellers. Trying to hinder their efficiency is fighting against the basic reason they work.

Posted by: anthony May 25 2005, 11:16 AM

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ May 25 2005, 10:03 AM)
I always feel bad when you guys cross post this stuff on 914club.

You are hurting the people who take the time to scan Craigslist every day in search of a 914 bargain. Once a post like this hits the club, 50 highly motivated people all run at once to buy. It benefits the seller tremendously but not the avg Joe buyer. Same thing is true of ebay auctions. Cross posting on the club is the best free advertising a seller could ever get, especially when it's a "diamond in the rough" deal like this one could be.

Anyone else have opinions about this?
Disclaimer: I am just griping out loud, no personal offense meant to ANYONE by what I say.

Craigslist used to be a nice little secret. Oh well. I scored a good running '74 2L with a 5 lug conversion for $1800 one time and a free 1.7 (that nobody wanted) and a free set of SSIs that came with it.

So Jeff, did you call the guy? I'd be all over this if I had time and space.

Posted by: Toast May 25 2005, 11:16 AM

How can you tell where this is located?

Posted by: Series9 May 25 2005, 11:18 AM

If the car sells to a club member, I would like to purchase the front strut/brake assemblies.

Posted by: Travis Neff May 25 2005, 11:21 AM

It says it in the top of the ad.

www.craigslist.org > san francisco > cars & trucks >

In SFO

Posted by: lapuwali May 25 2005, 11:30 AM

Craigslist hasn't been much of a secret for 3-4 years. They're like a $30M company now, part owned by Ebay.

I've seen enough cases even in the past year with good deals on Craiglist where I was the ONLY person to reply (or the only one that was serious enough to go look) that I don't think getting the word out about a good deal is harming anyone. No, you can't get deals for way under market anymore, but that kind of imbalance never stays that way for long. That's how free markets work. Either the sellers get discouraged by the low prices and sell elsewhere, or the buyers quickly find out about the killer deals and prices go up.

Just in the last 12 months, I've seen a savable VW go to the crusher because someone didn't get a serious response from their Craigslist ad. This particular ad is one of those deals that could easily go wrong just because no one was serious enough. I know how killer a deal it is, but I no truck, no trailer, no space, and I need another project like I need TWO extra holes in my head.

I hope this car goes to someone on this board, and that they benefit from it. That's why I posted it.

Posted by: TonyAKAVW May 25 2005, 11:30 AM

Its kind of like this secret fishing hole that you have known about for years. Its always stocked because no one knows about it. Then all of a sudden you post it in Fishing Times magazine and everyone is all over it.

For the market in general its good, but not for the individual who figured out (or got lucky) where the fishing hole was in the first place. Finding steals is what every buyer wants. Its simply inevitable these days that secret fishing holes will be exposed eventually. The internet is really good at that kind of thing.

For the seller, its good that this happens, but if the seller truly wants the fair price for what he is selling then he needs to advertise it properly. Everyone knows that Craigslist has nowhere near the reach of Ebay. From a seller's perspective that can be good or bad. A seller probalby doesn't want to deal with all the scammers and idiots that exist on Ebay.

So the situation is this. If you want to find a steal you just need to be more resourceful or lucky than the masses. Craigslist is/was a good place to find steals, but there are other places and ways as well. If you are the kind of person who likes to find a steal, don't post it because you are giving away your secret. If you like paying "fair price" go for it.

-Tony

Posted by: neo914-6 May 25 2005, 01:31 PM

QUOTE (anthony @ May 25 2005, 09:16 AM)

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ May 25 2005, 10:03 AM)
I always feel bad when you guys cross post this stuff on 914club.

You are hurting the people who take the time to scan Craigslist every day in search of a 914 bargain. Once a post like this hits the club, 50 highly motivated people all run at once to buy. It benefits the seller tremendously but not the avg Joe buyer. Same thing is true of ebay auctions. Cross posting on the club is the best free advertising a seller could ever get, especially when it's a "diamond in the rough" deal like this one could be.

Anyone else have opinions about this?
Disclaimer: I am just griping out loud, no personal offense meant to ANYONE by what I say.

Craigslist used to be a nice little secret. Oh well. I scored a good running '74 2L with a 5 lug conversion for $1800 one time and a free 1.7 (that nobody wanted) and a free set of SSIs that came with it.

So Jeff, did you call the guy? I'd be all over this if I had time and space.

I like Craigslist, the price is right

Listing ads should be no big deal. To find a deal you'd have to check CL, 914club, eBay, or other sites every day every hour. Who does that? Ok, I may but how many people do that at the same time? Even the free 914's require someone to have the space, tow means, and time. Who has all of that? Technology has made the world smaller and information more available but we are also more financially, space, or time broke...

Posted by: SLITS May 25 2005, 03:23 PM

QUOTE (Howard @ May 25 2005, 10:12 AM)
Huh? With all due respect...
This link has been posted twice, and I think it's good for the club. If the one who finds it first (Craig) doesn't want it, he passes it on to the rest of us to kinda keep it in the family.

It looks like a great project. Now if I just had the room, or was even a half assed mechanic... Mikey, get a vin and do a search. If it's not #4's brother, let's get it

Screw you Howie.....I already bought it!

Posted by: tat2dphreak May 25 2005, 03:32 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ May 25 2005, 04:23 PM)

Screw you Howie.....I already bought it!

I'm glad someone on the club pulled the trigger... had it been closer, I'd have put the bitch on a credit card and hid it at a friend's house(so my wife wouldn't find out) long enough to pull what I wanted off it(to sell)!

Posted by: Series9 May 25 2005, 03:34 PM

I want the struts if they're for sale.

Posted by: neo914-6 May 26 2005, 12:25 PM

You have half an hour to get to SSF and bid on the car. First come first serve, maybe a bidding war. 911 oil tank, tranny was questionable, body needs work, I doubt it is worth $4k but what do I know.
Good luck and tell your story if you buy it...

Posted by: anthony May 26 2005, 12:40 PM

So, did anyone here go and try to buy this car?

Posted by: Toast May 26 2005, 12:53 PM

Guy said he would call at noon. Waiting to hear from him. Told him would Fed Ex the money. Said he had 20 people comming too look at it.

Posted by: sjhowitson May 26 2005, 01:32 PM

Got an email from the guy this morning. He said he wanted it out today. Someone was coming by this morning 8 am pst. Owner was going to email me if the people that were coming by this morning flaked. I have cash and a trailer was the last thing I told him.

Posted by: SLITS May 26 2005, 01:42 PM

I tried, but it will be a no go....to many others close by............

Posted by: SLITS May 26 2005, 03:09 PM

Here's the answer:

The car did sell. Bueyr#1 flaked. Number 2 came 30 minutes later than
he said he would. Number 3 waited until the deadline passed and got
it. I wasn't looking for more money. I thought I was being as fair as
possible. I still feel I handled it as fairly as possible. Anyway,
beware of a guy named Ian Fitz-Simmons. He is guy #2 who got really
obnoxious when he missed the deal. He is apparently a guy who buys and
sells Porsche cars and parts. He was pissed that missed out on the
deal.

Best Regards,

Ben

Posted by: rhodyguy May 26 2005, 03:33 PM

...and simmon's fits ian's.

k

Posted by: anthony May 26 2005, 03:38 PM

I tried to give away a VW Squareback and a BMW 320i on craigslist. There were lots of people interested but hardly any could get their act together to actually haul the cars away. Finally I relisted each car for $100 and for some reason that separated the men from the boys and I was able to get rid of them in a week.

Posted by: Mueller May 26 2005, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ May 26 2005, 02:09 PM)
Here's the answer:

The car did sell. Bueyr#1 flaked. Number 2 came 30 minutes later than
he said he would. Number 3 waited until the deadline passed and got
it. I wasn't looking for more money. I thought I was being as fair as
possible. I still feel I handled it as fairly as possible. Anyway,
beware of a guy named Ian Fitz-Simmons. He is guy #2 who got really
obnoxious when he missed the deal. He is apparently a guy who buys and
sells Porsche cars and parts. He was pissed that missed out on the
deal.

Best Regards,

Ben

bummer on Ians part...he's a member here as well.....I guess the guy was serious about just wanting it out of there and not playing the waiting game.....

so who got it???

I guess we'll find out when we see it being parted out in the classifieds....the 14" Fuchs will be the 1st thing posted I'm betting

Posted by: lapuwali May 26 2005, 03:45 PM

QUOTE (anthony @ May 26 2005, 01:38 PM)
I tried to give away a VW Squareback and a BMW 320i on craigslist. There were lots of people interested but hardly any could get their act together to actually haul the cars away. Finally I relisted each car for $100 and for some reason that separated the men from the boys and I was able to get rid of them in a week.

Similar: we have (still) a big hot tub we don't want (came with the house), and we posted an ad on craigslist to the effect that if you arrived with a truck and some friends, it was yours to haul off. Lots of reply emails, but we still have the damned thing.

After all this palaver, no one has stepped up to take this thing? East Coasters: a transport company will deliver this to your door for $1500. Can you buy even a surface-rusted tub for $2700 there?