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Posted by: arne Nov 27 2017, 08:38 PM

I tried, folks, really I did. Since I sold the yellow 2.0 I’ve looked into 3 different 914s. None were good enough that I felt I could refresh them and still break even later. So I had to look at other options.

“And now for something completely different.”

In fact, it doesn’t get much different, really. Japanese. 50+ years old. Not what anyone would consider as “sporty” in any normal sense of the word. But I think it’ll be a pretty cool project, all the same.

1964 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser. All original, with a rare factory PTO winch. I’ve got a lot of new stuff to learn, and I don’t think I can learn it here. It’s been a fun time, 914world is great!

Wish me luck!

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Posted by: Mueller Nov 27 2017, 08:51 PM

No complaints from this guy!

That should be fun, surprised you actually found one that was affordable, I think most get snatched up by ICON for their $100K builds.

Feel free to keep us posted on the progress.

Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 27 2017, 10:03 PM

Fits in with the trophies on the wall.

I guess you could call it a NARP; hell, it's not even a fake one.

Posted by: bandjoey Nov 27 2017, 10:20 PM

Our friend Rust hangs out on Cruisers too. Keep us posted.

Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 27 2017, 10:44 PM

Wish I still had mine.

Posted by: 914 7T3 Nov 27 2017, 10:45 PM

Super Cool and Welcome to FJ Cruiser World!

Wait wrong website. confused24.gif

Please post a link so we can follow your progress and good luck with it.

Posted by: JRust Nov 27 2017, 10:49 PM

There is a place in Lincoln city that specializes in them. Always see 2 or 3 by the road up there. Might be worth looking into as a resource. Congrats on the Cruiser. They are killer rigs

Posted by: draperjojo Nov 27 2017, 11:13 PM

Always wanted to go through an old FJ, I've restored several old jeeps tho. Right now a sandblasted 914 takes up one bay in my garage, and this project is taking up another bay. I swear I'll quit doing cars and just go pick up an old Shovelhead next time I feel the need to do a project... Good luck with your FJ, and keep posting progress pics!


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Posted by: arne Nov 28 2017, 10:56 AM

Thanks, folks. I’ll stop by once in a while, just to visit. There are a few forums that cater to old FJs, the most active seems to be IH8MUD, so that’s where I plan to post the build thread. The initial consensus there seems to be that I found a really good example, with a lot of rare original parts. Might be a bit of a challenge to keep it as original as I plan, but that’s part of the fun for me.

Here’s a parting pic or two.

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Posted by: JOEPROPER Nov 28 2017, 11:40 AM

No complaints here. I had a '72 a few years back that started out just like that one. Same color too. That's a fun project and will be worth something when complete. smoke.gif

Posted by: arne Nov 28 2017, 12:01 PM

Forgot the link to the build thread:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/older-than-dirt-refreshing-a-64-fj40.1025704/

Posted by: arne Jan 9 2018, 06:41 PM

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Oh wait, I’ve used that meme here before. Oops!

In any case, the Land Cruiser started up and ran today, first time in at least 10 years, probably 15. Slow progress, this is definitely going to take longer than the ‘teener.

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Posted by: JOEPROPER Jan 9 2018, 07:55 PM

Love it. I had a '72 FJ40 and loved it. Good luck.

Posted by: arne Feb 4 2018, 07:48 PM

Moved under its own power earlier this week. Not far, got no cooling system hooked up yet. But soon should move into real test drive mode.

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Posted by: JRust Feb 4 2018, 09:55 PM

Thats great Arne! Really solid FJ you found. Are you down the same path & getting it painted?

Posted by: arne Mar 31 2018, 06:51 PM

Popped in today to check on a couple of other builds I have been watching, thought I'd post an update while I'm here.

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Are you down the same path & getting it painted?

Yeah, probably. Trying to get together with my painter to do some final planning. May need to learn to weld using a modern wire welder. A little rust and a whole lot of PO inflicted extra holes all over the rig. If I paint it, will probably be a color change to the period correct blue for '64. Jury still out on that, however.

Mechanically it's almost done. I need to replace the clutch, and there may be something worn in the front axle. But beyond that, it's doing fine. Registered (Oregon Special Interest) and insured, I'm driving it a bit to verify that I've got most of the bugs out of it.

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Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 31 2018, 09:09 PM

Love the pink seat cover! biggrin.gif

Posted by: arne Jul 29 2018, 09:06 PM

Story of my progress...

Make it run and drive, disassemble it, make it run and drive again, disassemble it, repeat several times.

I'm in disassembled mode now...

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Posted by: 914 7T3 Jul 29 2018, 11:11 PM

Looks like your FJ project is a lot more involved than the 914 and you will soon be ready for paint. That will be a big turning point so Congrats on your progress!

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Aug 29 2018, 10:23 PM

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That's so awesome, gorgeous color too!

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Better than 50/50 chance that you complete two projects before I finish one!

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Better than 50/50 chance that you complete two projects before I finish one!

Not sure which of us that says more about... drunk.gif

Posted by: porschetub Aug 30 2018, 12:50 AM

Wonderful vehicle,built like a panzer tank and went for ever,fond memories driving one of these in the late 90's,these were a popular government vehicle in their time in my country,used for all manner of uses ,we had an option called the Arcarna body option which was anything from a troop carrier multi seat rear body on a cab on only to a set up to long metal rear wellside.
Very popular in Australia as a people carrier for mining workers in the upper west coast and others area's.
The one I used had a later motor I think 4.1 litre,drunk fuel @ an amazing rate and was a vehicle that you never had control of because it had some sort of early autopilot av-943.gif av-943.gif ,finally died towing a large commercial boat on a even larger trailer in a remote area cost a bunch of $$$ to get it to extracted to the nearest town.
Don't know what happened to it after this confused24.gif .

Posted by: tomeric914 Aug 30 2018, 08:29 AM

Similar story here, drove an '80 FJ40 in the early '90s which was an absolute beast. Built 100 times better than a Jeep. Went into, through and out of stuff that would stop other vehicles cold. Had this auxiliary rear seat heater which was AWESOME for the -30 deg F mornings in central and western NY.

I can't think of a single time that it got stuck. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8376 was with me on a maiden voyage through a farmers back field (I think it was Mr. Gregory's) where we fell through a sheet of ice into a muddy bog and just kept going.

Posted by: napasteve Aug 30 2018, 08:58 AM

Fantastic work Arne.

Posted by: Cupomeat Aug 30 2018, 09:43 AM

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Similar story here, drove an '80 FJ40 in the early '90s which was an absolute beast. Built 100 times better than a Jeep. Went into, through and out of stuff that would stop other vehicles cold. Had this auxiliary rear seat heater which was AWESOME for the -30 deg F mornings in central and western NY.

I can't think of a single time that it got stuck. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8376 was with me on a maiden voyage through a farmers back field (I think it was Mr. Gregory's) where we fell through a sheet of ice into a muddy bog and just kept going.

So true! @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9101 , Besides a bunch of minor issues like Radiator holes, that was a beast I never thought would be stuck...

Great Project Arne! Love the color AND there is something to be said for cars that come all apart with bolts, etc... Looks like fun!

Posted by: Ferg Aug 30 2018, 10:06 AM

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Posted by: arne Oct 18 2018, 09:19 PM

10.5 months into it. I'm calling it essentially complete. Waiting on a last firewall grommet, and a bit of cleaning and touchup. Everything works as it should—lights, brakes, horns, gauges, wipers, all of it.

Going to be out of town for a few days next week, will do some more driving to make sure there are no new surprises, and then lay plans to sell it.

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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 18 2018, 09:29 PM

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10.5 months into it. I'm calling it essentially complete. Waiting on a last firewall grommet, and a bit of cleaning and touchup. Everything works as it should—lights, brakes, horns, gauges, wipers, all of it.

Going to be out of town for a few days next week, will do some more driving to make sure there are no new surprises, and then lay plans to sell it.

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What a cool looking FJ. Nice work!!

Posted by: championgt1 Oct 18 2018, 09:52 PM

All kinds of awesome!!

Posted by: mbseto Oct 19 2018, 11:57 AM

Gorgeous.

Posted by: mepstein Oct 19 2018, 12:19 PM

I love it. Great vision. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: 914_7T3 Oct 19 2018, 06:13 PM

That’s 2x you’ve completed your project before me.

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Congratulations on another great build!

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Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 19 2018, 07:49 PM

Schweeeet!

Should be an easy sale.

Posted by: arne Oct 19 2018, 08:02 PM

Probably auction it on BaT.

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Posted by: burton73 Nov 2 2018, 06:38 PM

Bravo on the great work.

It looks really nice.
Bob B

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 2 2018, 06:48 PM

Dang, that thing is eye candy. Great job!!! (again)

What is something like that worth? wub.gif

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I also mfg. these 6 into 1 tuned headers for the vintage fj40 if your cast iron manifold is in need of replacement welder.gif
Get the 914World discount as well smile.gif
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Posted by: 914_7T3 Nov 2 2018, 10:32 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20799 Here is a nice ‘68 available in the LA area!

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/d/classic-vintage-restored-1968/6725880805.html


Posted by: mepstein Nov 3 2018, 02:54 AM

Arne - your color choice turns a cool car into a show stopper. Great job!

Posted by: arne Nov 5 2018, 01:56 PM

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What is something like that worth? wub.gif

Hard to say for certain, which is part of why I plan to sell at auction. In general, early rigs are popular, and the factory soft top models are rare. The factory winch is a plus as well. Best guess is $30k+, probably mid-to-upper 30s.

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I also mfg. these 6 into 1 tuned headers for the vintage fj40 if your cast iron manifold is in need of replacement welder.gif
Get the 914World discount as well smile.gif

I didn't need those for this one, but that looks nice. Are you advertising them anywhere in the LC community?

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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20799 Here is a nice ‘68 available in the LA area!

Like the 914 before it, no telling when/if I'd do another one. If I did, I'd certainly start with a more needy example than that one!

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Arne - your color choice turns a cool car into a show stopper. Great job!

Yes, the color is a big part of the attractiveness. It IS a correct period Toyota color, but one that is rarely seen. It is a big part of what makes this rig stand out from all the beige Land Cruisers of the world.

Posted by: arne Nov 23 2018, 09:19 PM

Auction on Bring-a-Trailer is now live.

http://'https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-toyota-land-cruiser-fj40-4/'

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Posted by: orangecrate Nov 23 2018, 09:59 PM

Nice job!!! But now it's too purty to wheel.

Posted by: porschetub Nov 23 2018, 10:47 PM

Worth good money as in reality it looks like its 70% new ,don't undervalve it unless you need the $$$$.
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Posted by: JRust Nov 24 2018, 11:27 AM

That turned out GREAT Arnie! Well done man it will pull top dollar I'm thinking.

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I hope not, I'd like to think it sees at least a little gentle use in the future.

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Worth good money as in reality it looks like its 70% new ,don't undervalve it unless you need the $$$$.
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Well, just like the 914 before it, I'll need to sell it before I can move on to something new. But I'm not going to sell it for a big loss, that's what reserves are for.

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That turned out GREAT Arnie! Well done man it will pull top dollar I'm thinking.
Trying not to get my expectations too high, but I think it will do well also, Jamie.

Posted by: arne Dec 1 2018, 02:20 PM

Auction over, and it is sold (pending payment, of course). I feel I did OK. Thought it might have pulled a bit more than it did, but I had carefully set the reserve at a price I could live with, and it cleared it, so it's all fine.

Search for the next project can begin in earnest now. Ideal project would be a LWB long hood 911 in an interesting color. But even though prices have softened some on those, they may all still be outside my budget. So other vehicles will also need to be considered.

Posted by: arne Dec 14 2018, 11:44 PM

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OK, I punted on the "interesting color" part. Currently "chalky red", neé Silbermetallic.

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Dec 15 2018, 01:00 AM

Love it! Please share details of your plans for this one.

Posted by: arne Dec 15 2018, 01:06 AM

1972 911T coupe. 2.4 MFI, 5 speed. Original spec was Fuchs, F&R sway bars, Appearance Group and factory A/C. No sunroof, crank windows.

Plan is for mostly stock, but with better seats. Definitely back to original silver. It will replace the '84 Carrera as my "keeper". Seller is doing a front pan replacement on it now, then it will be shipped here to Oregon. 4-6 weeks away, I'm guessing.

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Posted by: mepstein Dec 15 2018, 06:14 AM

terrific car. congrats beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 15 2018, 07:31 AM

Great year- that has the oil tank fill door on the passenger rear fender right? One year only feature if I recall correctly.

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Great year- that has the oil tank fill door on the passenger rear fender right? One year only feature if I recall correctly.


yes. some of those parts are $$$ or unobtanium.

Posted by: arne Dec 15 2018, 11:00 AM

Yes. As a long wheelbase, no-sunroof '72 with the forward mounted oil tank, this car is probably one of the best balanced 911 versions ever. Stuff some wider tires in the rear and enjoy.

Wonder where I can find a pair of 7R wheels that look like flat sixes?

Posted by: mepstein Dec 15 2018, 12:18 PM

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Yes. As a long wheelbase, no-sunroof '72 with the forward mounted oil tank, this car is probably one of the best balanced 911 versions ever. Stuff some wider tires in the rear and enjoy.

Wonder where I can find a pair of 7R wheels that look like flat sixes?


They make reproduction 7R wheels but I'm pretty sure they look like deep sixes.

Posted by: arne Dec 15 2018, 01:04 PM

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They make reproduction 7R wheels but I'm pretty sure they look like deep sixes.

I'm going to need to buy at least a pair of wheels at some point in the project. Two are original, but the other pair are repro, and the spare is MIA.

But yeah, to get a pair of 7Rs that matched the front flat sixes I suspect I'd need to have Harvey weld me up a pair. Probably not going to happen. Finding flat sixes isn't all that hard, even if I want the early ones that use the 3-ear caps. But waiting to get to the front of Harvey's queue for weld-ups just so I can buy expensive and hard to find wide rear 15" tires doesn't make a lot of sense. I've got more important fish to fry.

Posted by: arne Jan 11 2019, 07:19 PM

Getting close to ready to ship.

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Posted by: arne Jan 16 2019, 10:37 PM

Even closer...

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Posted by: arne Mar 1 2019, 11:16 PM

Finally! It's here!! piratenanner.gif cheer.gif wub.gif

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Posted by: flyer86d Mar 2 2019, 10:23 AM

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Some how , all this needs to go back on the car!!
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Nice car. You’ll love it. Now, pull the top end off of the motor, install a set of 9.5/1 JE pistons and cylinders from your favorite source and a set of 2.4 E cams, have an E space cam installed in the pump and you will never wipe the smile off of your face.

Charlie

Posted by: arne Mar 2 2019, 07:33 PM

If I were rebuilding the motor, I'd probably do just that. But the engine is already done, fresh split-case rebuild with new Mahle P&Cs. Has about 3 hours on it now. I think I'll be happy with it as is.

Posted by: arne Mar 4 2019, 08:06 PM

FYI - Build thread is at http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?142979-Ambition-Fulfilled-my-1972-911T-coupe

Posted by: arne Apr 21 2019, 10:27 AM

Thought I'd drop by and post a quick update. The 911 runs and drives now -- sort of. The brakes are still a bit soft, still have a bit of air in there somewhere. And I'm trying to track down what appears to be a fuel delivery problem that is proving difficult to find.

I've driven it enough to determine that KYB shocks and inserts are no better on a 911 than they are on a 914. They look rather new, but they suck badly. The fronts especially are so soft the car just bobs around at backroad speeds. Once I get the fuel problem dealt with, new dampers will be the next item. Will need to decide on stock Boge/Sachs or Bilsteins.

And, of course, here are some pictures for my 914 friends...

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Apr 21 2019, 10:44 AM

Nice! Flashbacks to two years ago getting the 914 up and running, I'll bet.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 21 2019, 11:07 AM

Very nice project. Not surprised to hear your comments re the KYB's. They are junk out of the box and the reason they are nicknamed Kill Your Back shocks. The two names that repeatedly come up for Porsches are Bilstein and Koni. beerchug.gif

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The two names that repeatedly come up for Porsches are Bilstein and Koni. beerchug.gif


Fwiw, I got talked into Bilstein HDs by a lot of folks I (still) respect last time around, this despite my great experience with Koni dampers in my 914 in the past. They had good, valid reasons, but I wish I had stuck with Konis.

The Bilsteins are fine at speeds of +50 mph, and nicely damped when it comes to low-speed damping characteristics (the way the car transitions as it leans into a bend), but are "busy" when it comes to high-speed damping (think of "patter" as the car deals with small imperfections in the road). They've improved a bit as they've broken in (or I've grown accustomed to them), but I think rebuilt Konis are in my future. That or a revalve of the HDs (have driven some impressively revalved Bilsteins by Craig Watkins, S Car Go, etc). Or perhaps something else entirely…

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Fwiw, I got talked into Bilstein HDs by a lot of folks I (still) respect last time around, this despite my great experience with Koni dampers in my 914 in the past. They had good, valid reasons, but I wish I had stuck with Konis.

The Bilsteins I had on the '84 Carrera were great. But that was a heavier car with larger torsion bars than this '72. Bilstein calls for the same numbers for this '72 as they do for an SC or Carrera, and I'm more than a little concerned they might be a bit much for the stock '72. Will be driving a friend's '73.5 T next weekend, she has new Sach/Boge in it. Going to pay attention to how it works on the backroads before making a decision.

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Nice! Flashbacks to two years ago getting the 914 up and running, I'll bet.

Some, yes. Correcting a prior owner's "work" on the mechanical injection (before he admitted he screwed it up so bad that he put carbs on it) is a different deal. Complicated by finding other issues like this lack of fuel under load. Slowly testing each bit one by one to track it down.

I can tell already, however, that the MFI 2.4 will be great once it is dialed in.

Posted by: arne Aug 5 2019, 06:52 PM

Three months later, where am I?

Mechanically, mostly done. Engine and MFI are dialed in and running great. Suspension refresh completed with new Sachs dampers, sway bar bushings and a fresh corner balance/alignment. Brakes finally stop like I want after installing some REAL brake pads - Pagid Orange.

I've put almost 1500 miles on it this summer, engine break-in is complete. Picking away at a few oil leaks, but that's about the extent of the functional part. Overall, the car runs and drives exactly as I expect. (Other than the fuel economy. I figured it would be bad, but who knew a little 2.4L could burn THAT much fuel?)

Now gathering parts in preparation for a full glass-out repaint in the original silver, planned for over the winter. This project will take considerably longer than most of mine, as I'm doing some parts (paint especially) to a higher standard than some of my previous vehicles, and I need to stretch the timeline a bit to ease the financial hit. Recently ditched the really poor fiberglass S bumper and replaced it with a steel factory standard unit, which is what it came with when new. Also have a freshly restored set of Fuchs waiting until after paint.

In any case, I plan to drive it possibly another 1000 miles over the next couple months, and then into paint in October. By spring it should be silver once more.

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Aug 5 2019, 08:16 PM

As usual, looking great Arne! As for timeline, seems pretty quick to me laugh.gif

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As usual, looking great Arne! As for timeline, seems pretty quick to me laugh.gif

Ahh, but we know how long your projects take! And as before, since I'm retired I have a lot more time to spend on this stuff than many do.

Posted by: arne Sep 26 2019, 08:16 PM

The timeline is still good, I'm on track to take the car to the painter next week. I've got the car pretty much stripped.

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Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 26 2019, 09:03 PM

911SRegistry

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my 87 Carrera, Backdate

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Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 26 2019, 09:26 PM

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Oct 25 2019, 09:52 PM

Nice Body..................Work! Already in Primer too!

Looking great!

You know its harder to put it all back together, right?

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Posted by: arne Oct 25 2019, 10:06 PM

Not harder, just slower. beer.gif

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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 10 2020, 10:29 PM

so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

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so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2744

No idea what you are trying to say here ...
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Posted by: arne Jan 10 2020, 10:40 PM

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so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

I gather that you object to my stopping in periodically to let the friends I made here on 914world know how things are progressing? Odd that no one has complained about this until now, over two years after I started this thread.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 - I suspect you were pinged so that you could take some action on this thread. If you'd prefer I don't stop in, just say the word.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 10 2020, 10:42 PM

sandbox...
I have plenty of other projects to clog the 914world with..testing 1.2

Posted by: JRust Jan 10 2020, 10:43 PM

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so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

I gather that you object to my stopping in periodically to let the friends I made here on 914world know how things are progressing? Odd that no one has complained about this until now, over two years after I started this thread.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 - I suspect you were pinged so that you could take some action on this thread. If you'd prefer I don't stop in, just say the word.

No way Andy your more than welcome. I think just a little misunderstanding there. Jeff is a great guy & has no issue with Porsche guys. I'm sure he was trying to be funny. Please keep posting Arnie. Love to see the projects

Posted by: napasteve Jan 10 2020, 10:54 PM

Here’s another vote for Arne to keep posting. Fantastic work, I love being able to follow.

Posted by: RickS Jan 10 2020, 10:59 PM

Keep it coming. Most car guys enjoy progress reports on like cars and makes.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 10 2020, 11:05 PM

just sayin....nothing personal....I have a 87 Carrea Ive been backdating for years,, and a m38a1 since 1967..

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Posted by: Rleog Jan 11 2020, 05:31 AM

Love both the FJ and 911 projects. Keep the updates coming, Arne.





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Posted by: 76-914 Jan 11 2020, 10:01 AM

Keep posting. A little variety is nice for a change. This site put-up with me when I desecrated a 914 by converting it to a water pumping Subaru 6. beerchug.gif
EDIT: And Jeff, post up some of your other projects.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2020, 01:09 PM

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so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

I gather that you object to my stopping in periodically to let the friends I made here on 914world know how things are progressing? Odd that no one has complained about this until now, over two years after I started this thread.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 - I suspect you were pinged so that you could take some action on this thread. If you'd prefer I don't stop in, just say the word.

I don't have a problem with you posting updates here.
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PS: If nothing else, the 911 is a potential parts donor for the 914 so logically, there's plenty of 914 content right here in this thread


Posted by: arne Jan 11 2020, 01:41 PM

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If nothing else, the 911 is a potential parts donor for the 914 so logically, there's plenty of 914 content right here in this thread

True, although it was a lot closer to being a donor when I bought it than it is now.

No worries on my part. I have build threads with more frequent updates on both http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?142979-Ambition-Fulfilled-my-1972-911T-coupe (detailed) and the http://early911.pca.org/showthread.php?t=35 (simpler). Just milestones here, every 2-3 months until it's mostly done, I figure.

Parts scattered all over the house, awaiting the car's return.

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 11 2020, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2020, 11:09 AM) *
If nothing else, the 911 is a potential parts donor for the 914 so logically, there's plenty of 914 content right here in this thread

True, although it was a lot closer to being a donor when I bought it than it is now.

No worries on my part. I have build threads with more frequent updates on both http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?142979-Ambition-Fulfilled-my-1972-911T-coupe (detailed) and the http://early911.pca.org/showthread.php?t=35 (simpler). Just milestones here, every 2-3 months until it's mostly done, I figure.

Parts scattered all over the house, awaiting the car's return.

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Love the Silver, wife had this color on her new purchase (1978) BMW 320i,
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BTW we mfg mandrel headers for 4 of your project-list cars ...take your -10% 914World discount too ¡

Posted by: porschetub Jan 11 2020, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 10 2020, 08:29 PM) *

so the 911 guys dont like you ...............914.... World ?? @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

I gather that you object to my stopping in periodically to let the friends I made here on 914world know how things are progressing? Odd that no one has complained about this until now, over two years after I started this thread.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 - I suspect you were pinged so that you could take some action on this thread. If you'd prefer I don't stop in, just say the word.


agree.gif what a BS comment mad.gif ,your build is of interest to many including myself,we are car guys on here afterall ,a 911 is hardly that OT,many members on here have 911's.
Keep it up ,really nice car smilie_pokal.gif .

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jan 11 2020, 05:44 PM

Keep up the posts; love watching others progress... smile.gif

Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 11 2020, 06:40 PM

Looking good Arne, thanks for sharing!

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 11 2020, 07:26 PM

I had a silver '72 E
Never should have sold it.
Nice work. Keep posting.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 12 2020, 07:13 AM

Did this 72 Targa some years back.
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Posted by: arne Feb 13 2020, 10:51 AM

In my garage now, and reassembly is in progress. Gearing up my resolve to begin a task that is foreign to 914 owners -- installing the headliner!

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Posted by: mepstein Feb 13 2020, 11:16 AM

Arne - Looks fantastic. Are you keeping this one?

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 13 2020, 11:21 AM

SILVER! STUNNING! The brightwork is beautiful. You do great work.

Posted by: arne Feb 13 2020, 01:22 PM

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Arne - Looks fantastic. Are you keeping this one?

Yes, this one is for me.

Posted by: arne Mar 4 2020, 07:00 PM

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Posted by: RickS Mar 4 2020, 10:57 PM

What a knock out job and in my fave Early color. Very well done

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 4 2020, 11:18 PM

Wow, car is gorgeous, Arne! Thank you for sharing your projects here....

There's just something about a cool car freshly repainted in silver—before everything goes back on. Not sure what that is, but I've noticed it across a lot of kinds of cars.

Posted by: Chris H. Mar 5 2020, 07:38 AM

Yeah it's a timeless color. Very "classy" no matter what the trend of the day is. Great work Arne, it's really turned out nice.

Posted by: arne Apr 7 2020, 06:20 PM

First shakedown drive yesterday. Last drive was 6½ months ago. Went well. The steering wheel was a couple of splines off, and I've got something in the back rattling a bit at idle. The rest of the car seems tight and ready to go.

After a few final details, I'm considering the exterior work to be done for now. Yes, at some point I'll start upgrading various bits of exterior trim that I reused from before the paint work, but for now it looks pretty darn good.

On to the interior now.

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Posted by: 914_7T3 Apr 7 2020, 06:57 PM

Looks great!

Posted by: arne May 4 2020, 07:09 PM

The interior is now pretty well taken care of too, other than re-wrapping the steering wheel. (Leather for that arrives later this week.) Starting to consider all the A/C parts now. Other than the A/C, the car is ready to drive now.

While I'm not quite ready for something else yet, I am starting to sniff around for my next project. Will have to be a cheap one, as I'm not selling this car (or any other stuff) to finance it.

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Posted by: arne May 15 2020, 01:56 PM

Finished wrapping the steering wheel today, getting ready to go for a drive, as the Oregon rain is supposed to return tomorrow.

Scored another missing part this week, still need brackets and knobs. But tested it, and it works great.

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Posted by: 914_7T3 May 15 2020, 02:29 PM

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Finished wrapping the steering wheel today, getting ready to go for a drive, as the Oregon rain is supposed to return tomorrow.

Scored another missing part this week, still need brackets and knobs. But tested it, and it works great.

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Nice radio!

You one of them CW, NOS parts collectors I've been hearing about? laugh.gif

Posted by: arne May 15 2020, 11:22 PM

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Nice radio!

You one of them CW, NOS parts collectors I've been hearing about? laugh.gif

Nope. Far more likely to buy repro than NOS. Not just the cost, I'd feel bad using and wearing out some rare NOS part.

In fact this radio is far from NOS. Rather used, in fact. I had to spend 10 minutes cleaning it to get it to look that good.

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Posted by: arne Aug 23 2020, 11:53 AM

So the 911 is now mostly complete. About all that is left is re-working the factory A/C. No rush there.

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So I've been watching for a next project to consume my time. Something fun to build, and that I can sell when done and not get too far underwater in. I think I've got it selected, stay tuned...

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 23 2020, 12:12 PM

Good selection/choices so far - bring it!

Posted by: arne Aug 23 2020, 06:01 PM

Verbal deal made, money changes hands tomorrow.

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Posted by: Chris H. Aug 23 2020, 06:51 PM

That'll be a fun one. You going stock? GTI trim? Always thought an engine swap to a slightly more powerful one would make that a great daily driver.

Posted by: arne Aug 23 2020, 06:54 PM

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That'll be a fun one. You going stock? GTI trim? Always thought an engine swap to a slightly more powerful one would make that a great daily driver.

Engine swap is already done, but needs some troubleshooting and tidying. Running a '92 2.0 16v and 5 speed from a Passat. Has already been converted to the round headlight front end, too. So GTI look is a good possibility.

Posted by: Chris H. Aug 23 2020, 07:05 PM

Oh man that's a GREAT one to start with. 2.0 is perfect. Not too crazy but it'll keep up with traffic. Looking forward to the updates as usual!

Posted by: 914_7T3 Aug 23 2020, 07:23 PM

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Verbal deal made, money changes hands tomorrow.

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Great choice to go VW water cooled! I’ve seen a lot of nice Corrado/Sciroccos up in the PNW that get me thinking....

Posted by: JRust Aug 23 2020, 07:29 PM

Nice Arne always liked those rabbit(LOL) trucks. I always wanted one for mics little stuff. Be a cool ride for sure

Posted by: arne Aug 23 2020, 08:26 PM

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Great choice to go VW water cooled!

Made me laugh! I've got a combined 10 years in air-cooled cars, all Porsches. (Plus 8 years in Kawi KZ's back in the late '70s and early '80s. Later bikes and ATVs were all water-cooled.)

Water cooled VWs? Let's see, in order...

'78 Scirocco ('79-81)
'81 Scirocco S ('81-'91)
'91 Jetta GLI 16v ('91-09)
'86 GTI 8v ('95-96)
'90 Corrado G60 ('96-97)
'10 Golf TDI ('10-16)

So not new to water cooled, and not even new to the 16v engine.

It's a VW project that I can modify a bit, because it doesn't have to be a daily driver. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Aug 23 2020, 10:01 PM

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Engine swap is already done, but needs some troubleshooting and tidying. Running a '92 2.0 16v and 5 speed from a Passat. Has already been converted to the round headlight front end, too. So GTI look is a good possibility.


Sounds like a good swap. Grew up in/around one of these, but with the stock US diesel—so slower than molasse.

Saw one in the paddock at Laguna years ago and didn't think too much about it. It was white with Corrado G60 wheels and sat pretty lower (I believe he said he simply flipped the rear axle and then lowered the front accordingly) but was otherwise unremarkable...until I watched it beating up on Porsches on the way up the hill to the Corkscrew. When it passed a 928S up the hill, I really wanted to know more. Was running a G60 engine, too...and I doubt it was stock. Well driven, it was very, very quick.

Posted by: arne Aug 23 2020, 10:42 PM

Stock G60 in the portly Corrado was uninspiring. I was afraid of grenading the supercharger and didn't want to put a smaller pulley on it, but did do some simple plumbing changes (couldn't get away with them in CA) to help keep the boost up while shifting. Better, but not great, the 16v Jetta that was the family car during that time was more entertaining.

But in a lighter Mk1, if you can accept the risk of spinning the G-lader faster than stock, it could make it feel special.

But all in all, I prefer the feel and character of the 16v engines. Which should make this little truck a pile of fun.

Posted by: garrettlee2 Aug 23 2020, 10:54 PM

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Posted by: arne Aug 24 2020, 01:20 PM

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I’m planning on selling this if you would like a dumb race car

One project at a time. The Caddy will need to be it for a while.

Posted by: arne Aug 25 2020, 09:42 PM

Home now, let the fun begin...

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Posted by: Tdskip Aug 26 2020, 07:07 AM

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Is that Pre-SMOG by chance?

Posted by: garrettlee2 Aug 26 2020, 08:09 AM

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Is that Pre-SMOG by chance?


It has a 300hp 1.8t and diesel title

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 26 2020, 08:11 AM

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Is that Pre-SMOG by chance?


It has a 300hp 1.8t and diesel title


Hey now!

You should totally list that here and on the somber. I’ll touch base separately, don’t want to hijack the thread.

Love the pick up – please keep us posted on the progress

Posted by: porschetub Aug 26 2020, 03:47 PM

The 16v 2.0 engine is a very good engine,much improved torque over the KR 1.8 which I have in my Corrado.
In ROW spec the ABF 2.0 made the same power as the first 20v Mk4 GTI's ,it seems the US version called a 9A had some slight differences but pretty much the same unit.
These motors tune very well and provide good gains when chipped and fitted with a quality header and exhaust.

Posted by: arne Aug 26 2020, 06:21 PM

Got it running today, for a short time. After some troubleshooting I hot wired the fuel pump and it fired right up. Fuel pump relay is toast. New one arrives tomorrow.

Wiring is less than professional, I'm going to have to sort the whole thing, I suspect.

I like the 2.0 16v, and have a lot of seat time with them. We bought a '91 Jetta GLI new in '91, and used it as our family driver until 2002, and as a backup car through 2007 when we gave it to our son. He still owns it.

I don't know if this one is stock internally. It does have a header on it, and no cat.


Posted by: porschetub Aug 26 2020, 10:21 PM

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Got it running today, for a short time. After some troubleshooting I hot wired the fuel pump and it fired right up. Fuel pump relay is toast. New one arrives tomorrow.

Wiring is less than professional, I'm going to have to sort the whole thing, I suspect.

I like the 2.0 16v, and have a lot of seat time with them. We bought a '91 Jetta GLI new in '91, and used it as our family driver until 2002, and as a backup car through 2007 when we gave it to our son. He still owns it.

I don't know if this one is stock internally. It does have a header on it, and no cat.


Great to here you got it running,with the Mk1 platform the power to weight should be pretty good.
Good luck.

Posted by: arne Sep 10 2020, 11:27 PM

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Great to here you got it running,with the Mk1 platform the power to weight should be pretty good.
Good luck.

It should be a fun little truck when I get it done. The 2.0 16v is about twice the power of the original gas 1.7, and almost 3 times as much as the more common diesel pickups. It also has a close-ratio 5 speed with 3.94 final drive from an early GTI. So it will be surprisingly quick. A definite sleeper. The rather plain-looking factory VW wheels were original on the donor Passat, and are actually forged Fuchs, complete with the fox head stamp on the back side. They don't weigh much, extremely light. A good wheel for the sleeper look.

I got it running about a week ago, although not 100% yet. The Motronic ECU is apparently running in limp-home mode. So the AFR is way rich, and there is no ignition advance at all. Indications are that it may have at least one bad knock sensor. So no driving it yet. Brakes have been overhauled, the fronts upgraded to vented rotors. Suspension is ¾ done, will be complete before the week is out. New knock sensors on their way.

Posted by: porschetub Sep 11 2020, 05:00 PM

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[quote name='porschetub' post='2846267' date='Aug 26 2020, 09:21 PM']Great to here you got it running,with the Mk1 platform the power to weight should be pretty good.
Good luck.
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It should be a fun little truck when I get it done. The 2.0 16v is about twice the power of the original gas 1.7, and almost 3 times as much as the more common diesel pickups. It also has a close-ratio 5 speed with 3.94 final drive from an early GTI. So it will be surprisingly quick. A definite sleeper. The rather plain-looking factory VW wheels were original on the donor Passat, and are actually forged Fuchs, complete with the fox head stamp on the back side. They don't weigh much, extremely light. A good wheel for the sleeper look.

I got it running about a week ago, although not 100% yet. The Motronic ECU is apparently running in limp-home mode. So the AFR is way rich, and there is no ignition advance at all. Indications are that it may have at least one bad knock sensor. So no driving it yet. Brakes have been overhauled, the fronts upgraded to vented rotors. Suspension is ¾ done, will be complete before the week is out. New knock sensors on their way.
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Sounds like you are moving on with this,not sure if you know this but the blue temp sensor if faulty will give you the issue you have,if not working or faulty wiring there is no communication with the ECU regarding engine temp status...ask me how I know,mine was a dead wire in the loom,bought a replacement engine loom for cheap and all was good.
Good luck.


Posted by: arne Sep 11 2020, 06:04 PM

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Sounds like you are moving on with this,not sure if you know this but the blue temp sensor if faulty will give you the issue you have,if not working or faulty wiring there is no communication with the ECU regarding engine temp status...ask me how I know,mine was a dead wire in the loom,bought a replacement engine loom for cheap and all was good.
Good luck.

I am aware of that. The temp sensor was replaced by the PO last year. I will revisit to look at it again, but I suspect my issue may be the knock sensors, which can also cause this issue.

In any case, the wiring on this truck is stromberg.gif and I plan to recheck the entire engine wiring loom.

Posted by: arne Nov 21 2020, 11:53 AM

Still debugging the Motronic injection, problems from sitting too long, as well as ill-advised tampering by the PO. It runs, and shows promise as being really quick. But it doesn't run right yet. Awaiting some additional parts for that now.

Beyond that, the electrical bits have been pretty much dealt with, everything now works again - lights, gauges, etc.

New brakes both ends, including an upgrade to vented GTI up front. Suspension and steering all refreshed as well.

Polished the VW/Fuchs wheels, turned out quite nice.

And now the rust exploration has begun, pictured below is the back half of the passenger floor pan. Rust is present, but not horrible. Better than I feared.

Will be expanding my work to a new area on this one, as I plan to tackle the rust repair myself. New MIG welder should be delivered any day now.

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Posted by: porschetub Nov 21 2020, 07:32 PM

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Still debugging the Motronic injection, problems from sitting too long, as well as ill-advised tampering by the PO. It runs, and shows promise as being really quick. But it doesn't run right yet. Awaiting some additional parts for that now.

Beyond that, the electrical bits have been pretty much dealt with, everything now works again - lights, gauges, etc.

New brakes both ends, including an upgrade to vented GTI up front. Suspension and steering all refreshed as well.

Polished the VW/Fuchs wheels, turned out quite nice.

And now the rust exploration has begun, pictured below is the back half of the passenger floor pan. Rust is present, but not horrible. Better than I feared.

Will be expanding my work to a new area on this one, as I plan to tackle the rust repair myself. New MIG welder should be delivered any day now.

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Appears you have a very rust free car there the MK 1 was known to rust rather badly,I must as I'am a little confused ask about the fuel system ? that looks like a CIS air trunking or do you have the CIS-E system which uses an ECU ?
Thanks.

Posted by: arne Nov 21 2020, 07:45 PM

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Appears you have a very rust free car there the MK 1 was known to rust rather badly.
Yes, this was apparently an Oregon car since new, which helps a lot on the rust front, as Oregon has never embraced salt for the winter. Our cars are typically a lot less rusty than in many other parts of the country.

I started scraping the tar mat off the front half of the passenger pan today, definitely worse, but still should be fairly easy to fix since half-pans are easily available. And there will be plenty of solid metal to salvage for patches for the rear half. And so far, looks like the rust has not progressed into the rockers.

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I must as I'am a little confused ask about the fuel system ? that looks like a CIS air trunking or do you have the CIS-E system which uses an ECU ?
Engine is a 2.0L 16v from a '91 GTI or possibly Passat, type 9A. The 9A was equipped with CIS-E Motronic. Full fuel and ignition control, including knock sensors. I've had to replace the knock sensors and the ECU so far, and recently determined that someone has tampered with the air flow meter, pretty drastically. I've got a line on a replacement AFM, but the guy I'm getting it from has to find time to dig it out of storage, so it's at least a couple weeks away.

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