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Posted by: DennisO Dec 13 2017, 09:29 AM

Hi All,

I finally had a chance to pull the engine from my 1975 914 Project. It was actually a lot easier then I thought it would be. There was a lot of great info in this forum that helped make it so easy.

I searched the forum, but could not find an answer. I think I know the answer, but I'll ask the question, just to be sure. Did the 1.8L engines come from the factor with the engine block painted red? see the attached picture.

Also, now that the engine is pulled I was able to inspect the hell hole and inner longitudinal areas. There is some minor surface rust, but overall it looks great. It does not look like it will need any rust repair!

Thanks.




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Posted by: 914forme Dec 13 2017, 09:38 AM

No they did not!

Hell hole looks can be deceiving, you need to take something sharp and start poking, if it is soft then you have a cavity and it must be repaired. This could be as bad as a small filling or require a root canal, extraction, bridge, or extensive surgery depending on how far it goos.

Rust is the steel form of cancer. the small spot you found is never the end, and most times it has spread much father than you expected. your car is at least 42 years old, it will have some rust, depending on where it lived all its life, it might be limited to what you see.

Heres to hopping that it is

Posted by: DennisO Dec 13 2017, 09:50 AM

Thanks for confirming what I thought.

It will be interesting to see what else I find. i guess that means the engine has been opened before.

Posted by: Valy Dec 13 2017, 09:56 AM

Only the high performance engines are painted red to make them a tad faster. Does the serial number start with F (Ferdinand series)?


joking of course. No red engines.

Posted by: ValcoOscar Dec 13 2017, 10:16 AM

Nice going Dennis-



What's the plan on motor? You bumping it up? You rebuilding trans?

I'm just behind you, I'm about to drop my motor and trans this weekend. Attempting to do it alone. I have a small hell hole deliema also...I think.

Best of luck and do share more photos.

Oscar

Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 13 2017, 10:32 AM

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Dec 13 2017, 01:16 PM)

Nice going Dennis-



What's the plan on motor? You bumping it up? You rebuilding trans?

I'm just behind you, I'm about to drop my motor and trans this weekend. Attempting to do it alone. I have a small hell hole deliema also...I think.

Best of luck and do share more photos.

Oscar

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 13 2017, 10:35 AM

I hope your going to bump the 1.8 to a 2056 while you have it out.

Posted by: DennisO Dec 13 2017, 11:42 AM

Great to know the red engine paint will make the car go faster!!

My plan is increase the engine to 2056. I want to keep the original FI, so I won't go very wild. The trans is unknown, so I'll plan to rebuild it. The car has been sitting for 15yrs, so I'll need to rebuild all. Overall, the body has very little rust, but it will need to be repainted.

Posted by: Mayne Dec 13 2017, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(DennisO @ Dec 13 2017, 12:42 PM)

Posted by: DennisO Dec 16 2017, 10:51 AM

Hi All,

I had a little time yesterday to start tearing down the engine. The car had been sitting for 15yrs, so I really did not know what I would find. I took off the heads and unfortunately things did not look great to me, but I'm hoping the experts can chime in.

I attached pictures of the heads and both appeared to have been leaking where it mates with the cylinder. I hope this can be fixed. I have no history on this engine, so I don't know how many times the heads has been cut. It's stamped TPE which was probably the last shop that worked on it. Comments welcome :-)

On a more positive note, I split the case and did not see any bad surprises. I did accidentally drop the oil pump and it cracked, so I'll need to get a new one :-(

Thanks in advance.

-Dennis

Posted by: 914_teener Dec 16 2017, 01:00 PM

Those heads have been rebuilt before as you might have guessed.

Posted by: Mueller Dec 16 2017, 01:05 PM

Remove the gaskets in the combustion chamber to see if any damage.

Posted by: DennisO Dec 16 2017, 02:15 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 16 2017, 11:05 AM)

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 17 2017, 06:39 AM

Heads were not seated properly. Hence the exhaust leaks. Mismatch of valves though. The one with S is a sodium valve.

Posted by: DennisO Dec 17 2017, 10:16 AM

Thanks Guys.

I'll need to have the hands inspected and rebuilt.


Attached are pictures of the engine bay. It's very dirty and I did find some areas that will probably require some small patches. There is a lot of glue on the firewall that looks like rust, but it's not. Due to the small area and working angles, it will definitely be a fun area to work in :-(

If anyone sees any major issues in the engine bay, please let me know. Also, there is a homemade bracket attached to the lower firewall for the clutch cable. I circled the bracket in red. Any ideas why someone would do this?

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 17 2017, 11:18 AM

Looks like clutch tube repair Not an uncommon sight, just some are done better than others.