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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Real '72 914-6 "916 Look" On BAT
Posted by: Lucky9146 Feb 13 2018, 10:07 AM
Worth a look if you haven't seen it. Listed yesterday includes original 2.0 and has a 3.2 EFI installed. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-porsche-914-6-2/
Posted by: bretth Feb 13 2018, 10:26 AM
Interesting. Not liking the front end though. But A/C and "Loudspeaker in front" listed on the CoA is a new one to me.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Feb 13 2018, 10:37 AM
So a '72 914-6 these were all Euro delivered cars correct?
Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 13 2018, 10:38 AM
It’ll be interesting to see what it actually sells for (or is bid up to). I’d easily believe the build costs with all the modifications that have been done. However, that doesn’t always translate to selling price. I wish him the best of luck!
Posted by: mepstein Feb 13 2018, 11:21 AM
So a '72 914-6 these were all Euro delivered cars correct?
yes
Posted by: GregAmy Feb 13 2018, 11:33 AM
"...Less than 200 miles have been added since the work was completed in 2014"
Odd.
And a steering column-mounted key switch? Edit: and additional holes cut in fender well for oil cooler...?
Looks like a clean build.
Posted by: burton73 Feb 13 2018, 11:38 AM
Lots of nice stuff on this car but I do not care for the front fenders.
Bob B
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 13 2018, 12:14 PM
That is correct for a '72 /6 ...
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 13 2018, 12:16 PM
This is what it looked like 10 years ago 
Posted by: sithot Feb 13 2018, 12:17 PM
Who hacked the holes in the wheel well for oil lines? Not their finest hour.
Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 13 2018, 12:34 PM
As much as I dislike the front end, I would drive the piss out of this! What do you think, reserve somewhere north of $75K since it is a modified 72 six?
Posted by: 914Sixer Feb 13 2018, 12:37 PM
Won't pass inspection in most states with the lights in the front bumper.
Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 13 2018, 01:11 PM
That's what antique tags are for 
It has a good shaped 916-like front bumper, not often you see that.
Weren't those front end conversions done in Germany back in the day? I swear I've seen one very similar on a 911 before, same side marker light etc.
Posted by: JRust Feb 13 2018, 03:33 PM
I actually put in a bid on it. Knowing it would go for more than I could afford. So really a wasted bid but at least I got outbid within 12 hours so I could quite dreaming about it. IF I had ended up with it the slant nose would go away. I would take the front end back to stock. The headlights suck but what really screws with my eyes is the front hood. Not having the headlight buckets in the corners just looks wrong to me. So that would have most likely gone away as well. Having said that I would not have been in any hurry. That is a really well built car that will pull good money. Hell the motor alone is worth the 15k I bid. While I don't love the front end. That is my only criticism. Even that they did a great job on. Just not to my taste's. Well I don't love the interior either but doubt I would change it
Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 13 2018, 07:43 PM
Easily the best looking 916 'update' to me
The nose looks a little Mangusta ish to me
Worst eyesore is the chrome wheels
I'd drive it proudly
Whoever took the detail pix should be shot
Upon further review I apologize for the unkind words about the photographer.
Viewer error.
Posted by: Edward Blume Feb 13 2018, 08:12 PM
I like it. So do you....
Posted by: Dion Feb 13 2018, 08:55 PM
Looks like the front end is styled like the
Glockler 914’s.
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Posted by: 98101 Feb 13 2018, 09:04 PM
I like it. So do you....
Of course I want it. I would have chosen Phoenix Red, and no slant nose. But I'd get over that in about 15 minutes if it were mine.
Posted by: bigkensteele Feb 13 2018, 10:04 PM
This is what it looked like 10 years ago
I recall seeing a 914 that looked very much like this in Louisville, KY around 1987. I don't think that it had the slant, but it definitely had the white monochrome look and the flares. It was the car that made me fall in love with 914s.
I would LOVE to know if this is that car.
Posted by: carr914 Feb 14 2018, 05:51 AM
This is what it looked like 10 years ago
I recall seeing a 914 that looked very much like this in Louisville, KY around 1987. I don't think that it had the slant, but it definitely had the white monochrome look and the flares. It was the car that made me fall in love with 914s.
I would LOVE to know if this is that car.
No the car was in Maryland
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 14 2018, 07:45 AM
That is a lot of car and a great car. Not a fan of the 916 bumpers, etc., but that is easily remedied. I would definitely buy that car assuming it all checks out in person.
Posted by: barefoot Feb 14 2018, 07:55 AM
Interesting. Not liking the front end though. But A/C and "Loudspeaker in front" listed on the CoA is a new one to me.
Don't see any controls for A/C or ventilation. Obviously no heat either.
Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 14 2018, 10:33 AM
Unless the compressor and underdash AC vents were added after the pics were taken,
I don’t see any signs of AC and obviously there is no heat if running headers. I always worry when dealers list cars without much knowledge about the cars.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 14 2018, 11:40 AM
I remember that car from years ago, the guy really thought he had something and was valuing it on par with the 916s!!!! Of course a 72 914-6 is a very rare animal in itself with only 260 made and never exported
Posted by: hwyix Feb 14 2018, 05:51 PM
Nice car. I wonder how much to get the regular 914 on the front? I know it must be a lot cheaper to make then flush than go back to original.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 06:01 PM
Fugly
Posted by: sithot Feb 14 2018, 06:02 PM
Won't pass inspection in most states with the lights in the front bumper.
Antique vehicles, which this certainly qualifies for, don't have to be inspected in VA.
Still need to be roadworthy.
I think the front end looks like hell but to each his own.
Posted by: SON914/6 Feb 14 2018, 06:06 PM
The picture of the vin number is an old one with white paint. Also the picture of the inner front wing in bare metal looks to have a weld line running vertically up it...???
Posted by: sithot Feb 14 2018, 06:19 PM
As for the front oil cooler you'll never see one done this well every day. 
Armando Serrano's 914/6 GT.
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/the9146gt_front_oil_cooler_install_phase_1
Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 06:26 PM
The picture of the vin number is an old one with white paint. Also the picture of the inner front wing in bare metal looks to have a weld line running vertically up it...???
A lot of times, 916 bumpers are used when a car gets hit. That was also a common reason for chalon and other types of body kits. The “slope nose” could have been done due to a hit. Who knows what’s been grafted on that car. We’ve repaired lots of cars that were “professionally done”. Look at Cairo’s car. It’s getting a restoration to fix the “restoration”.
Posted by: carr914 Feb 15 2018, 06:18 AM
I remember that car from years ago, the guy really thought he had something and was valuing it on par with the 916s!!!! Of course a 72 914-6 is a very rare animal in itself with only 260 made and never exported
You are correct, Chuck Goldsborough thought it was more than it was and it did sell for close to $40k 12 years ago with fuched up paint and the ugliest interior on the planet
it's behind my 911
Posted by: Cracker Feb 15 2018, 08:47 AM
I am not a fan of the 916's but I actually like the car...the interior leaves more to be desired than the exterior (to me of course). The drive-train is impressive...
Tony
Fugly
Posted by: HaraPuzo Feb 15 2018, 09:09 AM
looks like a fun drive.
but whoever cut the two oil line holes was very artistic!
don't get how that happened 
Posted by: larryM Feb 15 2018, 02:00 PM
Weren't those front end conversions done in Germany back in the day?
Glockler - 9140431258 Greg Fullmer's car - sold for very big money
p.s. - my car has an original 916 front bumper - factory sourced - so - some of ya don't like 'em - c'est la vie
and, yes, those are the factory rallye GT Cibie-Pallas driving lights - also installed oem at time of Germany build
and this is a factory installed GT front oil cooler - note the crafted flange into which it mounts - that's factory workmanship on display
Posted by: mepstein Feb 15 2018, 02:13 PM
Weren't those front end conversions done in Germany back in the day?
Glockler - 9140431258 Greg Fullmer's car - sold for very big money
p.s. - my car has an original 916 front bumper - factory sourced - so - some of ya don't like 'em - c'est la vie
Larry - your car is a different story.
Posted by: larryM Feb 15 2018, 02:29 PM
I’d easily believe the build costs with all the modifications that have been done.
However, that doesn’t always translate to selling price.
a'yup ... too often we've seen that - sometimes the value of the conversion = the separate value of the parts, sans the labor
as my lady says - it's an e-ticket ride at disneyland
some of the recent comments here are relevant
www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=322686&hl=
Posted by: sithot Feb 15 2018, 03:42 PM
No issues with the 916 bumper. I like this best: 
Posted by: pete000 Feb 15 2018, 06:57 PM
More history here:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/sales_history_9146_916_9142430091
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 15 2018, 10:12 PM
p.s. - my car has an original 916 front bumper - factory sourced - so - some of ya don't like 'em - c'est la vie
and, yes, those are the factory rallye GT Cibie-Pallas driving lights - also installed oem at time of Germany build
Would love to see more pics of this car...
Posted by: larryM Feb 17 2018, 04:07 PM
Would love to see more pics of this car...
you can see a lot of photos here - http://www.pbase.com/emoze/914_6_gt
- hover over the top images & click for further depth
fwiw - i was offered $60K cash 3 yrs ago by a well known SoCal collector/dealer who said he wanted send it back to Germany for Historic racing - i countered at $85K - he balked, so i just kept upgrading it
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 17 2018, 04:12 PM
Mark - I would not characterize the work done to my Six over the past 5 years as a "restoration". However, it is now getting corrected and restored to better (IMHO) than new standards by Kent.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 17 2018, 04:21 PM
Mark - I would not characterize the work done to my Six over the past 5 years as a "restoration". However, it is now getting corrected and restored to better (IMHO) than new standards by Kent.
Yes, I agree. restoration was in quotes. But I agree, It was more like a slow motion single vehicle accident. I'm glad it's in the right place now.
Posted by: Cracker Feb 17 2018, 04:29 PM
It was more like a slow motion single vehicle accident. I'm glad it's in the right place now.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 17 2018, 04:33 PM
Buy car
Convert front fenders back to M471 with steel
Add GT bumpers in black + GT lids
Add sail vinyl and black top
Swap giant "Fuchs" for 15x7 & 9 Fuchs
Redo interior to GT specs, with cage + top and bottom dash in Perlon
Enjoy as is on street, or slowly backdate mechanicals to go vintage racing
It really wouldn't be that hard to make it look like this…
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Posted by: Cracker Feb 17 2018, 04:41 PM
Pete: I guess if you can afford to acquire the car...it would not be a stretch to do as you say. However, that would make a deep project just that much slippier!
Cracker
Posted by: gms Feb 17 2018, 07:07 PM
It really wouldn't be that hard to make it look like this…
argg they cut out the head light buckets and god only knows what else
Posted by: gms Feb 17 2018, 07:14 PM
and it looks like a new nose was attached, see the seam
Besides the '72s don't have the cool left side ignition and 911 style steering column
Posted by: Cracker Feb 17 2018, 07:16 PM
Glenn...are you making a run at this car!!!
T
Posted by: gms Feb 17 2018, 07:28 PM
Glenn...are you making a run at this car!!!
T
yes I need another -6
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 17 2018, 08:45 PM
Please don't sell your car that cheap, it should fetch real GT money, not /6 money ...
Posted by: mepstein Feb 17 2018, 09:32 PM
Please don't sell your car that cheap, it should fetch real GT money, not /6 money ...
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Posted by: larryM Feb 19 2018, 01:59 PM
sold $67,500 plus buyer fees
- as we often say "can't build it for that"
encouraging - as a collector/dealer friend says "auctions are where the cash is" (- he never bothers with advertising his "classic american iron")
maybe i'll put my '63 MGB racer up to see what happens
watching recent sales, looks like BaT is worth a try
i'll think about my sixer's future after the MG goes away
Worth a look if you haven't seen it. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-porsche-914-6-2/
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 19 2018, 07:39 PM
The 72 Is So Euro ,,,,,,gone,, good bad or ugly...
Posted by: porschetub Feb 19 2018, 09:54 PM
The market spoke for what I thought was a bit of a hack job car,the wheels were the start of ugly then it went on from there........
Posted by: larryM Feb 19 2018, 11:09 PM
The market spoke for what I thought was a bit of a hack job........
.... there is no accounting for the vagiaries of human behavior & interests
- i guess that's why it's called "the market"
the range of what we on this and other forums consider correct vs acceptable vs gauche is always entertaining, at best
which is why i hesitate to ever expose myself & my cars to the vitriol of social media should i ever put it up FS on any of those peanut gallery auction sites
Posted by: davehg Feb 19 2018, 11:25 PM
Horizontally Opposed has the right idea. As is the car is just ugly IMHO but not irreversibly so. A new GT glass hood and the proper front and rear bumpers, plus taking the interior back from the 80s Miami Vice look to something classic, and you have a six figure car. I’d plop the original engine and tranny back in and put the nice 3.2 and 915 into a nice conversion. Two for the price of one original six.
Posted by: Perry Kiehl Feb 20 2018, 07:28 AM
Not a fan of the custom front end, I used to like Chalons and slope nose 914's but not so much anymore. It looks like they did a good job of presenting all the work done, so the buyer is well informed. I'm all in on the running gear, but the custom bodywork is a walk away for me.
At the end of the day, this is good for our values.
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 20 2018, 08:11 AM
Yrs back a CA blue 914-6 Chalon was deconcoverted back to GT in Europe....oh it had a 4 front clip
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