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Posted by: jrblackbox Feb 13 2018, 01:08 PM

Updated -I am thinking of removing the standard backpad. Anyway, I have a couple of questions. What should I cover the firewall with, perlon or carpet? Pros and cons of either? I would imagine that the sound insulator would need to come out and then glue the perlon/carpet to the bare metal? Is there anything I can do to reduce the additional noise? where can I relocate the backpad light? Any help and or suggestions appreciated, got any pics of yours post them please! TIA

Completed changing the backpad to perlon, wanted to share a couple pics. Attached Image Attached Image

Posted by: mepstein Feb 13 2018, 01:57 PM

Use a modern self adhesive noise suppression material (Amazon has a bunch of choices) and then perlon. Perlon is nice because it will mold to shape.

Posted by: jrblackbox Feb 14 2018, 05:11 AM

How about lighting? Anybody have any pictures of the Perlon installed?

Posted by: Craigers17 Feb 14 2018, 06:19 AM

Not sure it this is what you're looking for, but this was posted a few months ago on a GT build off of BAT. I think this is the route I'm going to take on the backpad area.


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How about lighting? Anybody have any pictures of the Perlon installed?

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Posted by: thieuster Feb 14 2018, 07:25 AM

There's a great pic somewhere on the forum: black seats, grey carpet and grey backpad. It looks really good; somehow it adds 'roominess' to the cockpit!

Sadly, I can't find it at the moment

Posted by: Mike Fitton Feb 14 2018, 07:40 AM

Someone has a kit in perlon they were selling on EBay I think.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 07:56 AM

QUOTE(thieuster @ Feb 14 2018, 08:25 AM) *

There's a great pic somewhere on the forum: black seats, grey carpet and grey backpad. It looks really good; somehow it adds 'roominess' to the cockpit!

Sadly, I can't find it at the moment


Movequick?

Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 14 2018, 09:17 AM

Move the light to under the dash

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 14 2018, 09:28 AM

QUOTE(Craigers17 @ Feb 14 2018, 04:19 AM) *

Not sure it this is what you're looking for, but this was posted a few months ago on a GT build off of BAT. I think this is the route I'm going to take on the backpad area.


QUOTE(jrblackbox @ Feb 14 2018, 06:11 AM) *

How about lighting? Anybody have any pictures of the Perlon installed?

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Wow, it looks great! and I agree it does add roominess. Makes me wish I didn't spend so much reupholstering mine ... popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 09:38 AM

It’s what I plan to do on all of mine. I’m just waiting for 914rubber to make a kit. poke.gif

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 14 2018, 09:46 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:38 AM) *

It’s what I plan to do on all of mine. I’m just waiting for 914rubber to make a kit. poke.gif

A kit would be awesome! smile.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 14 2018, 11:29 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 05:56 AM) *

QUOTE(thieuster @ Feb 14 2018, 08:25 AM) *

There's a great pic somewhere on the forum: black seats, grey carpet and grey backpad. It looks really good; somehow it adds 'roominess' to the cockpit!

Sadly, I can't find it at the moment


Movequick?


Mike had his done and it looks great. I'll do mine just like it soon. One of these days in the near future. Maybe. Someday. laugh.gif

Posted by: Chris914n6 Feb 14 2018, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 07:46 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:38 AM) *

It’s what I plan to do on all of mine. I’m just waiting for 914rubber to make a kit. poke.gif

A kit would be awesome! smile.gif

Kit? confused24.gif
Measure.
Go to local upholstery store.
Pick a color.
Ask for spray glue.
Pay for it.
Go home and install.

poke.gif

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 12:57 PM

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Feb 14 2018, 08:40 AM) *

Someone has a kit in perlon they were selling on EBay I think.




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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 14 2018, 01:03 PM

Have always thought it would be cool to do "dome lighting" on the targa bar pad—ideally something you wouldn't notice or that wouldn't be out of place while being "aimed" forward a bit.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Feb 14 2018, 02:03 PM) *

Have always thought it would be cool to do "dome lighting" on the targa bar pad—ideally something you wouldn't notice or that wouldn't be out of place while being "aimed" forward a bit.

I think you would notice it in the rear view mirror.
I like the idea of some led lights mounted under the dash, out of sight.

Posted by: NS914 Feb 14 2018, 01:40 PM

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This interior looks really nice and happily once i weld in my new seat mounts I can start thinking of carpet!

Posted by: deemsriddle Feb 14 2018, 02:23 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 01:57 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Feb 14 2018, 08:40 AM) *

Someone has a kit in perlon they were selling on EBay I think.



I am installing this kit currently. I will have pictures tomorrow.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2018, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(deemsriddle @ Feb 14 2018, 03:23 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 01:57 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Feb 14 2018, 08:40 AM) *

Someone has a kit in perlon they were selling on EBay I think.



I am installing this kit currently. I will have pictures tomorrow.

Great. I was wondering if it covered the entire back. From window to floor.

Posted by: Larmo63 Feb 14 2018, 11:39 PM

I had that Perlon carpet piece from eBay on my yellow car. My floor carpet kit was from Appbiz also on eBay, EXCELLENT, by the way, proper German Perlon with double layered mats and very well made. The firewall Perlon was a bit cheaper, more of a "polyester" in look and feel. If you looked close, they didn't match.

I was going to have Autos International make me something....

Posted by: davehg Feb 15 2018, 12:59 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Feb 14 2018, 09:39 PM) *

I had that Perlon carpet piece from eBay on my yellow car. My floor carpet kit was from Appbiz also on eBay, EXCELLENT, by the way, proper German Perlon with double layered mats and very well made. The firewall Perlon was a bit cheaper, more of a "polyester" in look and feel. If you looked close, they didn't match.

I was going to have Autos International make me something....


+1 on appbiz carpet kit. I liked it much better than the 914world Perlon kit. Bob from Appbiz also sells bulk Perlon to match. His RS door panels for the 914 also rock.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 15 2018, 06:09 AM

QUOTE(davehg @ Feb 15 2018, 01:59 AM) *

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Feb 14 2018, 09:39 PM) *

I had that Perlon carpet piece from eBay on my yellow car. My floor carpet kit was from Appbiz also on eBay, EXCELLENT, by the way, proper German Perlon with double layered mats and very well made. The firewall Perlon was a bit cheaper, more of a "polyester" in look and feel. If you looked close, they didn't match.

I was going to have Autos International make me something....


+1 on appbiz carpet kit. I liked it much better than the 914world Perlon kit. Bob from Appbiz also sells bulk Perlon to match. His RS door panels for the 914 also rock.

We buy a ton of 911 stuff from him. Very good products.

Posted by: deemsriddle Feb 15 2018, 03:44 PM

This is our progress today. I used padding on the firewall. I also used the Perlon kit from Ebay. It looks nice but fit left a bit to be desired. Not bad for the price.Attached Image Attached Image

Posted by: daytona Feb 21 2018, 06:54 AM

Hi deemsriddle,
I like what you are doing with the carpet. Got a couple of questions about the perlon carpet on the fire wall; did you glue it or are you using some other way to secure it like velcro? I ask Because I would like to install a perlon carpet also but my car has an engine access hatch. Also, is the perlon carpet on the firewall finished along the edges?
Thanks,
Bill.

Posted by: Mueller Feb 21 2018, 09:23 AM

QUOTE(deemsriddle @ Feb 15 2018, 01:44 PM) *

This is our progress today. I used padding on the firewall. I also used the Perlon kit from Ebay. It looks nice but fit left a bit to be desired. Not bad for the price.



Looking at this kit myself.

Any reason you didn't remove the 4 tabs up by the window that the stock backpad hooks to?

Would you recommend the kit or just put something together yourself if doing it again?






Posted by: Chris914n6 Feb 21 2018, 03:58 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Feb 21 2018, 07:23 AM) *

QUOTE(deemsriddle @ Feb 15 2018, 01:44 PM) *

This is our progress today. I used padding on the firewall. I also used the Perlon kit from Ebay. It looks nice but fit left a bit to be desired. Not bad for the price.

Looking at this kit myself.

Any reason you didn't remove the 4 tabs up by the window that the stock backpad hooks to?

Would you recommend the kit or just put something together yourself if doing it again?

I went to the upholstery store and bought carpet off the roll. Originally did it in one piece like a modern car but ended up cutting it down the center to access wires. Looks way cleaner than the hodgepodge of loose pieces. I think the carpet was 54" wide making it 2" wider then needed.

I haven't hung the carpet on the firewall yet, still thinking of a good method to secure it, plus I'd like to remove the hump when I go after the rust.

Perlon stretches and I think it looks better glued on the firewall than that 'fitted' kit does.

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 21 2018, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Feb 14 2018, 10:46 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 07:46 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:38 AM) *

It’s what I plan to do on all of mine. I’m just waiting for 914rubber to make a kit. poke.gif

A kit would be awesome! smile.gif

Kit? confused24.gif
Measure.
Go to local upholstery store.
Pick a color.
Ask for spray glue.
Pay for it.
Go home and install.

poke.gif
true, one can do it and probably get a great result idea.gif

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 11:10 AM) *

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Feb 14 2018, 02:03 PM) *

Have always thought it would be cool to do "dome lighting" on the targa bar pad—ideally something you wouldn't notice or that wouldn't be out of place while being "aimed" forward a bit.

I think you would notice it in the rear view mirror.
I like the idea of some led lights mounted under the dash, out of sight.

agree.gif I like the idea of under dash lighting .... sunglasses.gif

Posted by: campbellcj Feb 22 2018, 08:50 AM

Nice - That's what I may do to mine if/when it is returned to a more streetable config. I covered the minimal dash in perlon felt and it's a cool vintage look plus saves weight and doesn't reflect back into my eyes.

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 22 2018, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 22 2018, 06:50 AM) *

Nice - That's what I may do to mine if/when it is returned to a more streetable config. I covered the minimal dash in perlon felt and it's a cool vintage look plus saves weight and doesn't reflect back into my eyes.

I am still working on the dash pad ... mine is in bad shape and will be quite a bit of work to bring back to life.
Do you have any pics of the perlon you did ?

Posted by: mepstein Feb 22 2018, 11:01 AM

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 22 2018, 11:50 AM) *

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 22 2018, 06:50 AM) *

Nice - That's what I may do to mine if/when it is returned to a more streetable config. I covered the minimal dash in perlon felt and it's a cool vintage look plus saves weight and doesn't reflect back into my eyes.

I am still working on the dash pad ... mine is in bad shape and will be quite a bit of work to bring back to life.
Do you have any pics of the perlon you did ?

I was going to try a perlon cover on one of my cracked pads. Nothing to loose at this point.

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 22 2018, 12:34 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 22 2018, 09:01 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 22 2018, 11:50 AM) *

I am still working on the dash pad ... mine is in bad shape and will be quite a bit of work to bring back to life.
Do you have any pics of the perlon you did ?

I was going to try a perlon cover on one of my cracked pads. Nothing to lose at this point.

a matte finish on a dash would be awesome popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Mowog4 Feb 22 2018, 08:53 PM

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Used Dynamat as the base, got the material from the upholstery shop, put a welding around the top, and glued it onto the dynamat. Not a great photo, but it looks great.

Posted by: jrblackbox Feb 23 2018, 07:10 AM

It does look great!

Posted by: jrblackbox Feb 23 2018, 07:50 AM

Ok, there is dynamat on the firewall, would I be better off putting the OEM pad over the dynamat and then applying the perlon to the pad? Or is that overkill? My thinking is that more is better and it might be a cleaner install? what do you think?

Posted by: Mowog4 Feb 23 2018, 08:40 AM

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ Feb 23 2018, 06:50 AM) *

Ok, there is dynamat on the firewall, would I be better off putting the OEM pad over the dynamat and then applying the perlon to the pad? Or is that overkill? My thinking is that more is better and it might be a cleaner install? what do you think?

I think it is overkill. The other challenge I have is I am not using stock seats, I am 6’2’ so this created a lot more room.

Posted by: Mueller Feb 23 2018, 08:57 AM

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ Feb 23 2018, 05:50 AM) *

Ok, there is dynamat on the firewall, would I be better off putting the OEM pad over the dynamat and then applying the perlon to the pad? Or is that overkill? My thinking is that more is better and it might be a cleaner install? what do you think?



The factory pad (or at least mine) has some odd protrusions that would need to be cut or smoothed out to look decent I think.

Posted by: campbellcj Feb 23 2018, 09:00 AM

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 22 2018, 08:50 AM) *

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 22 2018, 06:50 AM) *

Nice - That's what I may do to mine if/when it is returned to a more streetable config. I covered the minimal dash in perlon felt and it's a cool vintage look plus saves weight and doesn't reflect back into my eyes.

I am still working on the dash pad ... mine is in bad shape and will be quite a bit of work to bring back to life.
Do you have any pics of the perlon you did ?


To clarify, my car no longer has a stock dash pad but it still has the metal dash frame. #becauseracecar The gauge 'binnacle' is cut out of one of those ABS dash pad covers. To give credit where due, Marco @ TLG (mr9146) helped significantly with execution/installation.

Old shot from 2014 - now data acq box gone (died) and using different shift knob and door panels -

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Posted by: mepstein Feb 23 2018, 09:59 AM

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ Feb 23 2018, 08:50 AM) *

Ok, there is dynamat on the firewall, would I be better off putting the OEM pad over the dynamat and then applying the perlon to the pad? Or is that overkill? My thinking is that more is better and it might be a cleaner install? what do you think?

The oem pad is very heavy. I would do the dynomat and then some foam if you want to smooth things out.

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 23 2018, 10:18 AM

QUOTE(Mowog4 @ Feb 22 2018, 06:53 PM) *

Used Dynamat as the base, got the material from the upholstery shop, put a welding around the top, and glued it onto the dynamat. Not a great photo, but it looks great.

That looks awesome. Really like the way the way the covering follows the contours without any ripples ... top notch! beerchug.gif

Does that firewall covering have any 'stretch' to it?

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 23 2018, 07:00 AM) *

To clarify, my car no longer has a stock dash pad but it still has the metal dash frame. #becauseracecar The gauge 'binnacle' is cut out of one of those ABS dash pad covers. To give credit where due, Marco @ TLG (mr9146) helped significantly with execution/installation.

Old shot from 2014 - now data acq box gone (died) and using different shift knob and door panels -
it looks very 'racey' ..... I am in the midst of finding a matte fabric or material that can widthstand UV for the area in front of the dash pad.

Thanks for posting pics of your dash!! smash.gif

Posted by: GregAmy Feb 23 2018, 10:22 AM

I like this idea. Would give me another inch of seat travel without the seat squeeking on the back pad.

I don't even use my interior light, so no loss there.

Posted by: Mowog4 Feb 23 2018, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Feb 23 2018, 09:22 AM) *

I like this idea. Would give me another inch of seat travel without the seat squeeking on the back pad.

I don't even use my interior light, so no loss there.

My car has an led strip under the dash which is adequate for lighting. The perlon is pretty easy to fit and imho looks great.

Posted by: MoveQik Feb 23 2018, 03:35 PM

I covered mine with Dynamat then perlon. I love the look...much more clean, imho.

Of course, I have taken my whole interior down to a much more simple level.


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Posted by: jmitro Mar 5 2018, 12:21 PM

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Great. I was wondering if it covered the entire back. From window to floor.


Bought the kit you referenced and installed this weekend.




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Posted by: jmitro Mar 5 2018, 12:23 PM

I laid 1/8” foam underneath and was able to lay it down nicely. Trimmed off about 2” excess from the top


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Posted by: mepstein Mar 5 2018, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(jmitro @ Mar 5 2018, 01:23 PM) *

I laid 1/8” foam underneath and was able to lay it down nicely. Trimmed off about 2” excess from the top

Looks great. Is it grey or black?

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 5 2018, 12:48 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 5 2018, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(jmitro @ Mar 5 2018, 01:23 PM) *

I laid 1/8” foam underneath and was able to lay it down nicely. Trimmed off about 2” excess from the top

Looks great. Is it grey or black?


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Very tidy. Nice job.

Posted by: jmitro Mar 5 2018, 05:38 PM

thanks! I got charcoal grey

Posted by: Dougster Mar 5 2018, 05:52 PM

I love the perlon, but was wondering if anyone's done similar with a square weave carpet, to match the flooring?

Doug C

Posted by: Rob-O Mar 7 2018, 05:25 AM

I haven’t seen a square weave. Square weave is pretty stout and not easy to work around bends. I think of square weave as the carpet found in the 356. German weave was in our cars. Not as stout but looked similar. Could or should be able to be worked easier. 914Rubber sells it for the floor so I’m sure you could get it in bulk.

Posted by: jrblackbox May 20 2018, 03:23 PM

Update- completed changing the backpad to perlon.

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Posted by: Rob-O May 20 2018, 05:36 PM

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Posted by: xperu May 20 2018, 06:04 PM

I installed on my 914, very happy with the look, very clean and feels like more room in the cockpit. Mike

Posted by: jmitro May 20 2018, 09:17 PM

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ May 20 2018, 04:23 PM) *

Update- completed changing the backpad to perlon.


I really like the rubber strip at the top. what is it and where did you get it? and how did you attach it?

Posted by: gothspeed May 21 2018, 12:03 PM

I finally noticed the seats from the first page. Who makes these and what model are they? smile.gif


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Posted by: Mercurial May 21 2018, 12:21 PM

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I finally noticed the seats from the first page. Who makes these and what model are they? smile.gif

Here you go gothspeed...

https://www.instagram.com/p/06xuZPAkmC/?taken-by=gtsclassics

I think the seats look awesome!

Posted by: gothspeed May 21 2018, 06:27 PM

QUOTE(Mercurial @ May 21 2018, 11:21 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ May 21 2018, 11:03 AM) *

I finally noticed the seats from the first page. Who makes these and what model are they? smile.gif

Here you go gothspeed...

https://www.instagram.com/p/06xuZPAkmC/?taken-by=gtsclassics

I think the seats look awesome!

Cool! thanks for the link smile.gif

Posted by: bandjoey May 21 2018, 06:50 PM

I like that kit fit. Does anyone make a cover for the seatbelt roll?


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Posted by: daytona May 21 2018, 08:06 PM

I really like the look of the perlon covered firewall. I did it on my car but a little differently. I covered the firewall with dynamat, and instead of gluing the perlon directly to the firewall, I covered the backed structure.
I started out with a back pad that needed recovering. Removed the vinyl covering and the foam. Refreshed and repaired the back pad panels with fiberglass, and then covered it with perlon (actually trunk lining material purchased from the local upholstery store). The lining material is a bit lighter than the perlon and easily follows the contour of the back pad. I think it really looks good.
Bill.

Posted by: 90quattrocoupe May 22 2018, 12:19 PM

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ May 20 2018, 02:23 PM) *

Update- completed changing the backpad to perlon.

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QUOTE(jmitro @ May 20 2018, 08:17 PM) *

QUOTE(jrblackbox @ May 20 2018, 04:23 PM) *

Update- completed changing the backpad to perlon.


I really like the rubber strip at the top. what is it and where did you get it? and how did you attach it?


^^^^This. The rubber really makes it look like a clean install. Is it carpet edging?

Greg W.

Posted by: mb911 May 22 2018, 01:18 PM

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

Posted by: mepstein May 22 2018, 01:47 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 03:18 PM) *

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

The kits are pieced together but only seem to come in grey. I want black.
914rubber has perlon for a good price and your choice of backed or not. I believe you want to buy the non backed perlon because it will stretch and mold around the firewall. I’m using some self adhesive rubber soundproofing that I bought on amazon. It’s pretty thick so I will spray adhesive and lay the perlon directly on the rubber. I also have to grind off the clips that hold up the backpad and maybe fill the screw holes.

Posted by: mb911 May 22 2018, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 22 2018, 11:47 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 03:18 PM) *

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

The kits are pieced together but only seem to come in grey. I want black.
914rubber has perlon for a good price and your choice of backed or not. I believe you want to buy the non backed perlon because it will stretch and mold around the firewall. I’m using some self adhesive rubber soundproofing that I bought on amazon. It’s pretty thick so I will spray adhesive and lay the perlon directly on the rubber. I also have to grind off the clips that hold up the backpad and maybe fill the screw holes.



I went with a charcoal carpet so grey will work perfect for me.. Good to know..

Posted by: mepstein May 22 2018, 02:10 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 04:01 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 22 2018, 11:47 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 03:18 PM) *

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

The kits are pieced together but only seem to come in grey. I want black.
914rubber has perlon for a good price and your choice of backed or not. I believe you want to buy the non backed perlon because it will stretch and mold around the firewall. I’m using some self adhesive rubber soundproofing that I bought on amazon. It’s pretty thick so I will spray adhesive and lay the perlon directly on the rubber. I also have to grind off the clips that hold up the backpad and maybe fill the screw holes.



I went with a charcoal carpet so grey will work perfect for me.. Good to know..

There is someone selling the grey kits on eBay. I like the smoother look of molding one piece to the firewall but I’m sure the kit looks fine. I’ve never been a fan of the puffy backpad but I guess it was sort of needed to make the 2+1 seating.

Posted by: xperu May 23 2018, 09:18 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 22 2018, 03:10 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 04:01 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 22 2018, 11:47 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 03:18 PM) *

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

The kits are pieced together but only seem to come in grey. I want black.
914rubber has perlon for a good price and your choice of backed or not. I believe you want to buy the non backed perlon because it will stretch and mold around the firewall. I’m using some self adhesive rubber soundproofing that I bought on amazon. It’s pretty thick so I will spray adhesive and lay the perlon directly on the rubber. I also have to grind off the clips that hold up the backpad antd maybe fill the screw holes.



I went with a charcoal carpet so grey will work perfect for me.. Good to know..

There is someone selling the grey kits on eBay. I like the smoother look of molding one piece to the firewall but I’m sure the kit looks fine. I’ve never been a fan of the puffy backpad but I guess it was sort of needed to make the 2+1 seating.

I bought mine on Ebay several months ago. Pre-cut and stitched. It fits very good. Mike

Posted by: bajafreaks Jun 28 2023, 05:09 PM

Digging up this older thread.
No one has mentioned if there was a difference in engine /cabin noise going this route.
Dynamat and perlon is the noise level comparable to stock padding etc.?

Posted by: Justinp71 Jun 28 2023, 06:38 PM


I was looking at this thread too @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19140 did you go with the ebay carpet kit?

Posted by: blabla914 Jun 28 2023, 07:14 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 22 2018, 11:47 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 22 2018, 03:18 PM) *

I really like it.. Now I need to source the kit or material.

The kits are pieced together but only seem to come in grey. I want black.
914rubber has perlon for a good price and your choice of backed or not. I believe you want to buy the non backed perlon because it will stretch and mold around the firewall. I’m using some self adhesive rubber soundproofing that I bought on amazon. It’s pretty thick so I will spray adhesive and lay the perlon directly on the rubber. I also have to grind off the clips that hold up the backpad and maybe fill the screw holes.


When I bought my perlon carpet set from Mike I just asked for extra material to do the firewall. He sent me an extra piece of matching perlon with no backing. I put it on over sound deadening material using spray adhesive.

The only part in the least bit tricky is the joint of the carpet up against the window. I made a template out of a bunch of pieces of paper taped together and then put that on the fabric to match the profile of the window.

otherwise the unbacked perlon forms easily to the contour of the firewall with no wrinkles. piece of cake.

For lighting I cut a 911 light in down low on the firewall just above the tunnel. works great.

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 28 2023, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(bajafreaks @ Jun 28 2023, 05:09 PM) *

Digging up this older thread.
No one has mentioned if there was a difference in engine /cabin noise going this route.
Dynamat and perlon is the noise level comparable to stock padding etc.?


I used Dynamat plus a layer of foam Dynaliner under perlon on the inside, and then replaced the stock pad on the engine side with a foil-foam sandwich. It's not "quiet" but not at all loud. Most of what I hear (with the top on) comes through the rear window glass.

Posted by: Bullethead Jun 28 2023, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(blabla914 @ Jun 28 2023, 09:14 PM) *

When I bought my perlon carpet set from Mike I just asked for extra material to do the firewall. He sent me an extra piece of matching perlon with no backing. I put it on over sound deadening material using spray adhesive.

The only part in the least bit tricky is the joint of the carpet up against the window. I made a template out of a bunch of pieces of paper taped together and then put that on the fabric to match the profile of the window.

otherwise the unbacked perlon forms easily to the contour of the firewall with no wrinkles. piece of cake.

For lighting I cut a 911 light in down low on the firewall just above the tunnel. works great.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1740 Please post an image of your lighting solution... looking for an alternative to underdash.

Thanks!

Posted by: jrblackbox Jun 29 2023, 05:01 AM

QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Jun 28 2023, 05:38 PM) *

I was looking at this thread too @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19140 did you go with the ebay carpet kit?


No kit, just the perlon fabric off ebay from appbiz I believe over dynamat.

Posted by: Geezer914 Jun 29 2023, 10:09 AM

I did Perlon on the back wall behind the seats. Installed Dynamite to the firewall in the engine compartment and covered that with a thin silver covered firewall blanket. Installed 2 small led interior lights on each side of the center console with the 3 gauges.

Posted by: bajafreaks Jun 29 2023, 01:35 PM

QUOTE(Geezer914 @ Jun 29 2023, 09:09 AM) *

I did Perlon on the back wall behind the seats. Installed Dynamite to the firewall in the engine compartment and covered that with a thin silver covered firewall blanket. Installed 2 small led interior lights on each side of the center console with the 3 gauges.


Hows the sound inside the cabin ?

Posted by: Geezer914 Jun 29 2023, 03:40 PM

I have a Triad exhaust, not too loud with the windows up. It's a Porsche, not a Cadillac limo!

Posted by: blabla914 Jun 30 2023, 03:18 PM

For lighting I cut a 911 light in down low on the firewall just above the tunnel. works great.
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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1740 Please post an image of your lighting solution... looking for an alternative to underdash.

Thanks!
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The lighting isn't as good as stock as it's down low, but it does the job. The wiring is easy. Just snake the original wiring and trim to length. Key is mount as high as possible on the lower part of the firewall. You can kind of see the edge of what I'm talking about thorough the fabric. There are a bunch of layers of metal in there, especially down low, but you don't want to interfere with the center tray.


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The 911 light is kinda expensive, but it's much nicer than the stock vw unit and seems to give off quite a bit more light.

I can't take credit for this. I saw it somewhere. perhaps on Serrano's site.

Posted by: Geezer914 Jun 30 2023, 03:54 PM

Under dash lights in center gauge consol.Attached Image

Posted by: Ottomotion Jun 30 2023, 08:22 PM

Sorry if this has already been asked, but do you get more seat travel adjustment rearward with this mod and if so, about how much?

Posted by: bahnzai Jul 1 2023, 06:51 AM

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Posted by: bahnzai Jul 1 2023, 06:54 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1262


Maybe Dave will reply with some details on his firewall cover and interior light. Although, knowing Dave…the light/mount is handcrafted, like most of his build!

Posted by: 914dave Jul 1 2023, 08:28 PM

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I used eastwood sound deadening and covered with unbacked perlon. Used 3M super 90 adhesive. As for the lighting, I used .0325” aluminum and formed a box to mount the stock light. It now has a GoPro mount on top.

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