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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ informal 914 owners meet in Redwood City on Friday
Posted by: Mueller Jun 2 2005, 11:52 PM
Tommorow afternoon, say at about 4pm, a few of us* will be in Redwood City next door to HPH to exchange parts and lies about the progress we are making on our vehicles.....possible dinner gathering as well since we might as well sit down for dinner and drink then sit in traffic......
*Andy,
Mark D,
Jenny
and myself (and my wife if I can talk her into it)
Posted by: skline Jun 3 2005, 12:55 AM
So...whats the difference between an informal and a formal gathering?
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 12:57 AM
| QUOTE (skline @ Jun 2 2005, 11:55 PM) |
| So...whats the difference between an informal and a formal gathering? |
we can wear shorts ...
btw. i think britain wants to stop by as well ...
Andy
Posted by: skline Jun 3 2005, 01:02 AM
So I guess all the gatherings we have down here in So Cal are informal including the WCC cause I saw a lot of people wearing shorts. In fact, I dont think I have ever seen Elliot or Aaron wearing anything but shorts and flip flops. "*" too, he is always in shorts.
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 01:07 AM
| QUOTE (skline @ Jun 3 2005, 12:02 AM) |
| So I guess all the gatherings we have down here in So Cal are informal including the WCC cause I saw a lot of people wearing shorts. In fact, I dont think I have ever seen Elliot or Aaron wearing anything but shorts and flip flops. "*" too, he is always in shorts. |
yes, but that's because you socal guys don't have no style ...
i *think* what mueller was refering to is the fact that this will be our first "brad-less" shop experience ...
thank god he left all the tools and parts and the air compressor!
Andy
Posted by: McMark Jun 3 2005, 01:52 AM
Too bad that compressor is 220 3-phase. I'd buy it from him. It's a damn nice compressor.
Posted by: mikerose Jun 3 2005, 08:26 AM
| QUOTE (McMark @ Jun 2 2005, 11:52 PM) |
| It's a damn nice compressor. |
I though that was MikeM
Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 10:47 AM
| QUOTE (mikerose @ Jun 3 2005, 07:26 AM) | ||
I though that was MikeM |
The compressor was mine, I sold it to Brad since I didn't want to deal with the 3phase at the time....Mark, you can convert it to single phase motor or get one of them many 3 phase converters available...not too cheap however....
actually what I meant by "informal" was no real plans, so don't show up to expect us doing anything special...mostly just BS'ing and trying to find our parts scattered thou out the shop...
Posted by: McMark Jun 3 2005, 10:56 AM
Yeah, it would probably be best to just hang out, talk shop, and order some pizzas or something.
Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 11:01 AM
if Andy brings his 914 we can throw the wideband 02 reader on it
Posted by: nebreitling Jun 3 2005, 11:04 AM
i'm up in the city and won't be able to make it down -- but could you guys get brads scales (they look like bathroom scales, the levers are at britain's) and give them to jenny (or britain if he comes)?? puh-lease?
nathan
650 248 7946
Posted by: bondo Jun 3 2005, 11:09 AM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Jun 3 2005, 09:47 AM) | ||||
The compressor was mine, I sold it to Brad since I didn't want to deal with the 3phase at the time....Mark, you can convert it to single phase motor or get one of them many 3 phase converters available...not too cheap however.... actually what I meant by "informal" was no real plans, so don't show up to expect us doing anything special...mostly just BS'ing and trying to find our parts scattered thou out the shop... |
I might still have a rather large single phase motor, I'd have to check, but it might be up to the duty of running a large compressor.
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 11:16 AM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Jun 3 2005, 10:01 AM) |
| if Andy brings his 914 we can throw the wideband 02 reader on it :smash: |
will have to close one side of the exhaust for that ...
but my expert *nose* already tells me it's running too rich ...
Andy
Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 3 2005, 11:45 AM
| QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jun 3 2005, 09:16 AM) | ||
will have to close one side of the exhaust for that ... but my expert *nose* already tells me it's running too rich ... Andy |
Expert maybe but is it calibrated?
Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 3 2005, 11:54 AM
I might stop by. I have a few items I left there. Is the o2 sensor going to be there? I really could use a reading to help ease my mind about the running condition. What time is everyone getting there? I dont get off work until 5pm
Posted by: nine14cats Jun 3 2005, 11:59 AM
Sounds like fun!....but I can't make it as I'll be at the Bryan Adams / Def Leppard concert in San Jose...(blast from the past).
Mike,
I'll see you at lunch next week.
Thanks,
Bill P.
Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 12:05 PM
| QUOTE (nine14cats @ Jun 3 2005, 10:59 AM) |
| Sounds like fun!....but I can't make it as I'll be at the Bryan Adams / Def Leppard concert in San Jose...(blast from the past). Mike, I'll see you at lunch next week. Thanks, Bill P. |
that concert should be fun if it happens.....strike going on due to non-union stage workers or something like that....
Posted by: McMark Jun 3 2005, 12:35 PM
Chris, the sensor will be there until Mueller leaves. He's picking it up. I expect Andy will still be there when you get there so you can get yer stuff.
Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 12:38 PM
| QUOTE |
| Chris, the sensor will be there until Mueller leaves |
and that time is dependant on how much my wife "complains"
if all else fails, the O2 reader will be at my house this weekend for me to start tuning my Link ECU...Mark might be swinging on down to my house to help me and pick up stuff for his shop....
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 12:43 PM
let's start another club.
how about IPOC (informal porsche owners club) ???
or POJS (porsche on jack stands) ???
or CCOC (central california owners club) ???
or IWIWARP (i wish it was a real porsche) ???
Andy
Posted by: Jenny Jun 3 2005, 12:50 PM
Andy, when are you heading over that way?
Jen
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 01:02 PM
| QUOTE (Jenny @ Jun 3 2005, 11:50 AM) |
| Andy, when are you heading over that way? |
in an hour or so ...
come over early and
Andy
Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 3 2005, 02:08 PM
Shit I might need to take a rain check if people are already headed down. I won't get there until 6 at least because of traffic. I guess I should ask, who will still be there at 6pm?? 
Posted by: nocones Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM
Did I miss something?...
Is Bradholio gone? Back in jail? Fled the country?
Done at HPH?
What's the deal here?
Inquiring non-running 914 owners want to know.
Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 03:07 PM
| QUOTE (nocones @ Jun 3 2005, 02:04 PM) |
| Did I miss something?... Is Bradholio gone? Back in jail? Fled the country? Done at HPH? What's the deal here? Inquiring non-running 914 owners want to know. |
Brad is working down in San Diego......he took a postition in a high-end Porsche repair/customization/race shop
Posted by: GWN7 Jun 3 2005, 03:09 PM
| QUOTE (skline @ Jun 2 2005, 11:02 PM) |
| So I guess all the gatherings we have down here in So Cal are informal including the WCC cause I saw a lot of people wearing shorts. In fact, I dont think I have ever seen Elliot or Aaron wearing anything but shorts and flip flops. "*" too, he is always in shorts. |
I saw "*" getting out of the hot tub.....only for a second and then I went blind. Those were no shorts.
Brad is working down South. Building a tunnel across the border. It's a friendship tunnel.
Posted by: McMark Jun 3 2005, 03:17 PM
Chris, give me a call just before you head down and I'll be able to tell you if anyone's still around. 707-738-5686
I'm leaving now, so I'm a little late. 
Posted by: nocones Jun 3 2005, 03:56 PM
Well I guess that would explain it.
Good luck Brad!
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2005, 11:11 PM
well, that was a good shop day! going to post pics in just a minute ...
we were there until 9pm-ish ...
Andy
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:06 AM
alright, here are zee pictures ...
Members of the "MidCal 914 Club" present:
Jenny
Mc Mark
Mike Mueller
Britain
SirAndy
first, could this have been part of my problem? this pic was taken with the car jacked up and the wheel off the ground. note that it didn't move down, the sway bar was holding it up pretty much without any movement ...
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:07 AM
this is what it's supposed to look like (sway bar disconnected ...)
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Posted by: jonwatts Jun 4 2005, 12:14 AM
Now that's some sway-bar pre-loading from hell!
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:18 AM
here's the scoop. when we lowered the car (quite a while ago) i dropped it down to 4" clearance (from the floorpan to ground). i didn't realize that the car was riding on the rubber bump-stops on top of the shock. (which is not all that good!) ...
then, 2 weeks ago, preparing the car for the AX in marina, the racing slicks were rubbing on the dust covers, so we decided to take them off. while we were in there, brad suggested to cut one of the 3 sections of the rubber bump stops to give me a bit more shock movement.
sure, sounded good, so off it came ...
the next day at the AX, i was surprise to find that the car was even lower than before. 
didn't give it much thought right then and there, but later realized that because the car had been sitting on the rubber stops already, cutting of one section made it drop even further.
now, that means, all this time i was driving with *NO* (zero, zilch) shock movement in the front!
all there was was the softness of the rubber bump stops ... 
so today, while looking at the shocks, i also realized that it's *NOT* a good idea to remove the dust covers if you still have a stock top shock mount!
the top of the dust shield actually acts as a really big washer, preventing the shock to move upward *past* the top mount. the stock top mount has a rubber insert and without the dust cover, the shock will simply bend the rubber and the top thread of the shock rod will hit the inside of your hood every time you hit a bump and leave a nice scratch and DENT in your hood ... 
so back on came the dust covers.
then i re-indexed the torsion bar adjusters to give me more room for raising the car.
HINT: do not re-index more than ONE spline at the time. chances are, it's going to be too much, even if you think you'll need a lot of adjustment ...
see pic below (2 notches on the torsion bars) ...
i did fit right in the neighborhood with my low rider 914 you think the front is too high?
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:21 AM
here's mark converting his daily driver into a tail dragger 3.6L ... 
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:22 AM
the engine up close ...
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:22 AM
and installed ! 
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:24 AM
one more of my raised front end ...
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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 4 2005, 12:25 AM
btw. i *did* dropp it down to 5" ground clearance all around after that.
the ride is *much* smoother now ...
Andy
Posted by: McMark Jun 4 2005, 12:26 AM
Gotta have the blurry one! Nice! That 3.6 really pulls!
Posted by: McMark Jun 4 2005, 11:53 AM
Got the engine out of the car and back on the stand. Now to clean it up a bit and put it on display while the chassis is finished up. 
Thanks for helping me load it Andy & Britain.
Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 4 2005, 12:00 PM
Mark,
Whatcha putting that 6 into?
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