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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 08:27 AM

well in the happy, happy... thread steve says he'll return my money upon return of the engine. he's making it impossible. he wanted ron to drop the engine at scott kline's house. i "said" fine, have the check ready. well scott has no intention of having the engine delivered at his house nor will he assume any responsibilty for it. understandibly so. steve had instructed ron to start disasembling the engine without my permission. ABSOLUTELY NOT!! NOT BEFORE HE HAS REFUNDED MY MONEY. WHEN HE OWNS THE ENGINE HE IS FREE TO DO WHAT EVER HE WANTS WITH IT!!

next, steve is given 3 options on tuesday of this week.

1. let me know he intends to go back on his word concerning the refund of my money for the return of the engine
2. go to riverside and pickup the engine. bring the check. he replied with "riverside is not costa mesa". fair enough.
3. contact ME with a convenient time for all parties, to facilitate the delivery to HIS house or another location. i told him not to contact ron directly but to inform me and i will contact ron. again, bring the check. ron has had enough and got sucked into this vortex. he's out of this mess. so i will have to make other plans, even if i have to fly down, rent a truck, and deliver it myself. stromberg needs to provde the info so i may make plans. get the check and have it ready!!! see, i don't think he has the money.

so.. it's now friday and i've heard nothing from him. NOTHING!!! as far as "you had 3 days...". forget that, everyone!! if you should have a comment... comment on what you witnessed as the engine was being loaded in the truck scott was driving. i presumed the engine was ready to go, as he stated. gee, the thought that i would have to go over the engine with a fine tooth comb while in camarillo just didn't occur to me. that's what trust will get you. the whole thing started to unravel over the intakes that at first his didn't have, and evolved into "i never said intakes were included". look again at the pictures in the happy, happy thread. he expected me to shoulder the burden of the return costs. well, that was avoided and the engine now rests in riverside. stromberg will not co-operate to get this piece of shit engine back to him. he's a skunk of the lowest order. buy from this punk at your own risk. i know of other peoples items he's fucked up. not my tales to tell.

k


Posted by: markb Jun 3 2005, 08:32 AM

ummm, you did unblock his isp so he can contact, right?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 08:35 AM

he can contact me perfectly via pm or email here. next question.

k

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 3 2005, 08:36 AM

What did you expect from the guy who copied half of Jake website for his own site?

This should be the big chance Steve can show the 914 community that he is honest and for real. So far he has done exactly what he has done in the past...jack shit.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 08:52 AM

as i stated, that wasn't my fight. i had no idea what all of the facts were. until someone gets their hands in my pocket i give them the benefit of the doubt. i've dealt with quite a few people with regards to part sales and even just passing small items along for free. in many cases i didn't ask for payment until they recieved the item and footed the shipping before i saw a penny. i wish a few of them would step forward and share their experiences. i'm a trusting person. appearently one of my biggest faults. the second biggest is my rage control. pretty ugly when it gets away from me.

k

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 3 2005, 08:56 AM

Sorry to hear about your troubles Kevin, it sucks, really does. I hope you get things straightened around soon. I hate it when people don't do what they say they will. headbang.gif

Posted by: boxstr Jun 3 2005, 09:08 AM

Well, we had Dr Sawsall step up to the plate and fessup he did wrong and now we can all just move forward, all is forgiven. But we still have the stench of the onion still wafting into our nostrils. This is getting a bit over the top Steve. Do the right thing and lets get it over with. There are better things in life than the onion field.
Appears to me Kevin has done his part. Now all we need is for you to do your part.
CCLINSINUSPROBLEMS

Posted by: Type 4 Jun 3 2005, 09:29 AM

Riverside is not Costa Mesa.
The engine has not been returned.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 09:35 AM

what a tool rolleyes.gif . . ah, one anonymous member, afraid to be out front? where and when? you know that everything has been done on my part to get this thing to you. got the check ready to go? ONCE AND FOR ALL!! place, time and date to wrap this up. right here, right now!!! COMMIT!!

k

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 09:51 AM

now i get a pm directing me to read the return policy on type4's website. i told stromberg to put it out front. i'm at a loss as to what there is to question regarding this engine. it is exactly as it came to me. to include the ball of blue painters tape used to secure the plastic to the engine. i used duct tape to fasten the plastic. what's the problem? do you think i fucked up the flywheel? do you think i removed the plugs required for the air injection ports? do you think i sprayed the oil and dirt all over this engine? what could possibly be wrong with this engine for you to refuse delivery? where have you been for 4 days. get the check, i'll set up delivery, give it the same inspection that i could've made when it was in camarillo. in other words pull the plastic back and look at it. what is your business license #, state tax #, and the location of record for your business?

k

Posted by: DNHunt Jun 3 2005, 10:05 AM

Enough with the shit Steve. So Costa Mesa isn't Riverside. Go get the engine and return the money. For some reason you cannot see that this kind of conflict with a customer does you no good. The very people you are trying to sell to are watching this. Everyone who reads this thread will know you won't support your product. How can you possibly believe you can stay in business.

Why you would think you could pass off this POS I don't know. I was in Kevin's garage when he looked at it. POS may be too kind.

Dave

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 10:14 AM

for the record... the cashiers check was issued to STEVE STROMBERG, a private individual. not type4 (the mystery co, i have no proof it even exists), his wife or any other name. strange that he jumps in and runs and hides. as you've seen dave, i have no idea where to take the engine. i can't just take it to some intersection in costa mesa and dump it off the truck.

k

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 3 2005, 10:18 AM

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Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 3 2005, 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Type 4 @ Jun 3 2005, 07:29 AM)
Riverside is not Costa Mesa.
The engine has not been returned.

And you and smart, or you and honest arent the same either.

Fix the problem you created and stop hiding behind the crap you have been peddling on this.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 10:53 AM

see travis? always another jersey barrier to deflect responsibility is thown up. there's even more behind the scene. not my place to disclose.

k

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 3 2005, 10:59 AM

I have no doubts there is more to the story. Steve should know that this will get uglier for him the longer he stalls.

Oh yeah, his claim that riverside is too far away.. Total Est. Distance: 45.15 miles Give me a break. Steve needs a bus pass or a punch in the head.

Posted by: d914 Jun 3 2005, 11:03 AM

dude your catching crap and ruining your name over 45miles???? Being not from California I looked it up!!! Take back the engine, fix it and re-sell, get on with life. Your loosing 3000 potential clients here minimum.......

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 11:06 AM

as stated... delivery was ready to go. just not to steve's super secret location. he wanted it left AT SCOTT'S!! with no check for me. ron's had enough, and i don't blame him one bit. he's done more than i would have ever expected him to do, and i appreciate all his efforts. see... i was supposed to use a trucking co and spend a bunch of money to get the engine down there. well that didn't happen. too easy and a lack of bleeding on my part.

k

Posted by: gklinger Jun 3 2005, 11:08 AM

It amazes me that here in this public forum, which comprises to a large extent Steve's customer base, he is still dicking around with making this right. I've never bought anything from him, and I can guarantee that I never will - now.

Too bad he's decided to follow the AA business model...

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 11:18 AM

not like anybody should flood his type4 inbox with "make it right!!". his business is screwed anyway. there are a number of people who won't purchase from him now. i don't think it's a "real" company anyway.

k

Posted by: william harris Jun 3 2005, 11:29 AM

I have conducted an investigation of the business practices of Mr. Stromberg for another "interested party." No records with the California Secretary of State for any corporation doing business as Type Four Parts. URL is registered to his "home" address at 2609 Redlands Drive, Costa Mesa, CA 92627. Property and phone number at that location (949 650-7366) belong to Judy Ely (on information and belief, his wife). I wonder what location is shown in the pictures on the "Type 4" website - full machine shop, etc.? Can't be at "his" house. Unfortunately the entire 914 community can see the kind of business practices associated with this individual. Good luck with your problem. Everyone - take note of what happens here. This type of thing is getting out of hand with a couple of vendors.

Posted by: SLITS Jun 3 2005, 11:40 AM

QUOTE (Type 4 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:29 AM)
Riverside is not Costa Mesa.
The engine has not been returned.

Steve....as I told you, I will deliver the engine when you tell me that you have the requested Cashier's Check to hand to me upon delivery or that Kevin has the check in his hand and he tells me. I do not want remuneration for any of my involvement, period. The engine will stay in our alarmed, video secured warehouse until such time as I am directed by the owner to release it.

I am involved in this as the transportation guy to solve a problem...nothing more, nothing less. I was happy to help "non-club" club members get a confilict resolved and still am. It hasn't cost you shit and it hasn't cost Kevin other than his gas to place the engine in the hands of our facility for shipment.

If I could sell the engine for what you charged Kevin and mail him the money, I would to alleviate this bullshit.



Posted by: nebreitling Jun 3 2005, 11:45 AM

c'mon steve. write the fucking check already.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 11:46 AM

OH, COME ON!!... it can't be that simple ron rolleyes.gif . thanks for all you've done to help me.

k

Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 3 2005, 11:51 AM

Fuck it, I will never do business with somebody like this. I wont even do business with somebody who did business with him. Hell, I cant even talk to Kevin anymore laugh.gif (just kidding Kevin)

Steve, I hope this was worth it, because you just slathered your name and your business with a healthy coating of runny puppy poop. This is a text book case of honesty is the best policy. To me Steve is a thief, a worthless SOB

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 3 2005, 11:53 AM

OUCH! ohmy.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 11:59 AM

my worst nightmare would be being trapped on a houseboat with him for a week. funny things come to mind... he wanted howard to waive the entrance fee to the 06' because all he wanted was to hang out for the track day and had no interest in the "social" thing. i wish i could have seen the "conversation" between him and john. if i knew what i know now, i would have paid stromberg's entrance fee.

k

Posted by: messix Jun 3 2005, 12:00 PM

UNBELIEVALBE!

i cant believe that some people think that in this very small comunity they can conduct business this way.

no one who see's or hear's of this thread will ever buy from you again.

the people who know you personally i'm sure are embarrassed and ashamed of your conduct. your getting very close to the point of no return for redeeming your self.

do the right thing and save what little integrity you have left.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 3 2005, 12:01 PM

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Posted by: itsa914 Jun 3 2005, 12:31 PM

Nothing really to add other than to let Steve (aka type4parts) know that I have added him to my never do business with list which includes Parts Werks, AA, Reeders Amoco, Menards, and now him.

Have a nice day dry.gif

Posted by: 914RSR Jun 3 2005, 12:35 PM

QUOTE (Type 4 @ Jun 3 2005, 07:29 AM)
Riverside is not Costa Mesa.
The engine has not been returned.

45 miles? i'm sure you're driving further than that just to get the crack you're obviously smoking ... wacko.gif

you should be bending over backwards to make this deal right, instead you treat your customer like shit.

in front of the whole 914 community no less ...
bravo! clap.gif

Posted by: meares Jun 3 2005, 12:35 PM

i've got a story for you guys as well....i'm just waiting for my 90 day guarantee to end before i release the flood gates!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's burning me to sit on it!!

Posted by: merrill Jun 3 2005, 12:40 PM

Sorry is the best we can say to K. Then many thanks, however it is unfortunately at his expense. Thanks for informing us of the practices of someone that would try to illicit our business. I have dealt with 3 different vendors through this club with GREAT satis faction. Thanks to those with integrity smilie_pokal.gif

Shit on those without mad.gif finger.gif finger.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 12:46 PM

here's the truth. direct quote.

"Kevin
You own that engine.

I'm not going to give you a nickle.

It was a private party transaction as is where is.

If you didnt want it you should not have taken delivery.

It was sold as is where is no warranty expressed or implied as a private party sale.

We are done."

WOW!! ohmy.gif my, my how the script changes with every scene. where are all of the defenders of stromberg after this revelation? if exsposing you for the fat, fucking, liar you are is the only satisfaction i get at this time, so be it. if you think i'm done with you for one minute, you just keep on trucking. got the address and phone number now. you're not running a chop shop are you? idea.gif . a hard rains agonna fall.

k






We NOT are done.

Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2005, 12:51 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 3 2005, 11:46 AM)
got the address and phone number now. you're not running a chop shop are you? idea.gif . a hard rains

just don't do anything stupid, keep it legal please smile.gif

not sure how you go about suing form out of state, but that would be your smartest recourse....I have nothing else to say since I don't know nothing about anything wacko.gif

Posted by: double-a Jun 3 2005, 01:04 PM

ohmy.gif

memo to self: never never never never never make kevin mad. biggrin.gif

~a

Posted by: BMartin914 Jun 3 2005, 01:05 PM

Time to litigate? confused24.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 01:18 PM

he has nothing to take, as i was told by a former employer. his wife owns the house and the phone is in her name. she prob won't give him the money to make good on the engine. the business is a phantom. drop ship, pure and simple.

k

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 01:26 PM

and what ever you do, don't send emails concerning this matter to type4parts.com@surf.co.nz, and don't throw me in the brier patch either. wink.gif

k

Posted by: nebreitling Jun 3 2005, 01:32 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 3 2005, 10:46 AM)
here's the truth. direct quote.

"Kevin
You own that engine.

I'm not going to give you a nickle.

It was a private party transaction as is where is.

If you didnt want it you should not have taken delivery.

It was sold as is where is no warranty expressed or implied as a private party sale.

We are done."

kevin, did he just write you this today?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 01:42 PM

yes nate, @11:20am, today. biggrin.gif . too much.

k

Posted by: smrz914 Jun 3 2005, 02:09 PM

QUOTE
here's the truth. direct quote.

"Kevin
You own that engine.

I'm not going to give you a nickle.

It was a private party transaction as is where is.

If you didnt want it you should not have taken delivery.

It was sold as is where is no warranty expressed or implied as a private party sale.

We are done."


Didn't he send you something referencing the return policy on his website? And now he says it's a private party sale? I find that strange. He also said that you could return it, not sure under what conditions but I see that has changed too.

I'm not going to buy from this guy.

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 3 2005, 02:15 PM

ohmy.gif Wow, what a mess Kevin. Looks like you got screwed on this one. Ouch, $1900 is a hard screw to take too. sad.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 02:15 PM

and you think you're confused paul? it's been like this from day one for me. let me know when you sort it out.

k

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 3 2005, 02:19 PM

QUOTE
not sure how you go about suing form out of state, but that would be your smartest recourse....


I do. I called the State of California when I bought my original RS flares. The guy never shipped them. I filled out the small claims forms and had him served. I drove to San B. (Yuciapa) and went to court. Asshole never showed so I won. What did I win? Nothing. I figured that out right then and there. I got my Palm Pilot out and looked up his address (I knew I had to be close). Drove up to his house and picked up my flares.

(forgot to inform the proper athorities that I got my goods... I sure hope he doesn't get pulled over for a traffic violation anytime soon.)

Kevin... I haven't been following this but I'm sure this community will pitch together and make it right for you and worse for Steve. Sounds like he got his graduate degree from the George (Hustler) Hussey Charm School.

Posted by: messix Jun 3 2005, 02:25 PM

i just look up his web site. it looks like a ghost shop to me.

that machine shop way to big bucks for some one that wont even put a shipping or mailing address on the web site. at least raby admits his shop is at his house with no pretenses of being some high tech able to build anything full service shop.

his is ruining his own name. every one spred this experience to others, all boards and fourms.


Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 3 2005, 02:35 PM

Wow Steve, you prove beyond your own reputation.

Why put Kevin through the time, expense and hassle of "return the engine to me", when you fully intended to sluff him off. Sure Ron stepped in and got the engine shipped - but that did cost someone something. Now once the friggen thing is over a 1k miles away you pull this, "there's no warranty" garbage.

So he is at the point of having to pay again to get it home, or have the hassle of having someone brokering your turd to recoup the some of the loss.

Best wishes Type4, your going to need it if you intend to stay in your crooked profession.

Posted by: messix Jun 3 2005, 02:50 PM

does anyone have any pictures of steve to post

so people can recognize him in the future. place a face with the crime

Posted by: Toast Jun 3 2005, 02:51 PM

Ron was going to drive it to Scotts in COSTA MESA, after he footed the bill to have it shipped to Riverside. huh.gif

According to Mapquest, Costa Mesa to Costa Mesa = 0 miles!

Kevin, I'm sending you a pm about a pm.

Posted by: Tom Perso Jun 3 2005, 02:55 PM

Stromberg has been run off every list I've been on. He's a crook - no doubt about it. I never thought about buying from him... But after seeing his 2270 motors, it makes me scared to think that people actually buy them... Ouch. I know how much they cost to build. He's waaay under. Where's the cost cutting?

Oh, and those POS road-dune buggies are best.

ar15.gif icon8.gif

Tom

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 3 2005, 02:57 PM

Sounds like a shady character to me. mad.gif

Posted by: aircooledboy Jun 3 2005, 03:00 PM

No fuchin' way. ohmy.gif You gotta be kiddin' me. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Let me get this straight:
1)first it was "there were no carbs or intake";
2)then it was "I never said they were included in the deal";
3)then came "I said I'll take the engine back and return your money";
4)next we had "I'll return your money AFTER I inspect it";
5)from there we went to "Riverside isn't Coocamunga";
7)heading for home, we got "see the return policy on type4.com"
6)and finally we now have "private deal, screw you"

Is that about right? cool_shades.gif
Gots ta tell, I deal with assholes and scumbags on a daily basis, and this is world record territory. I wouldn't buy a million dollars from this guy for $10. If there are people here who know this guy, and think there is anything redeemable about him, you should be leaning on him like a ton of bricks to square this train wreck up.

I stayed out of this until now, because I accepted the representation of some who said "you don't know the whole story". But there is no set of facts that can make Stromberg not an indefensible scumbag here, unless he does a 180 in the next several minutes, or maybe if Kevin is actually Osama Bin Laden. Short of that, nothing can excuse his conduct. confused24.gif

Posted by: nebreitling Jun 3 2005, 03:03 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 3 2005, 11:42 AM)
yes nate, @11:20am, today.

that's totally unacceptable. he has already stated that he'd take it back from you, and ron already went out of his way....


steve: it's probably too late to salvage your reputation on this board, but it's never too late to do the right thing.

Posted by: Toast Jun 3 2005, 03:13 PM

It's too bad that Ron couldn't sell the engine for what Kevin paid for it. OUCH! ohmy.gif Shit, you could buy a whole car here for what he raped you for the engine alone. (Sorry Kevin. sad.gif )

I though for sure that no one would buy from him again after his famous arguments with Miles. Looks like he still hasnt changed. dry.gif

Posted by: ematulac Jun 3 2005, 03:19 PM

I guess his $1k programmable FI system really was too good to be true.

He had some 2.0 fuchs I wanted, too. dry.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 03:37 PM

ed, craig has the best looking set of 4 lug fuch wheels i have ever seen, da kine. contact him. chris, i see you read all 3 threads and gleened the subtle variations as we moved along. for what the engine was intially presented as, it would have been a killer deal. it's just the way it shook out. steve's out a bit more than i am in the long run. i still gots my rep. wink.gif

k

Posted by: bondo Jun 3 2005, 03:55 PM

Hmmmmmm. Non existent business... CoughCoughtaxevasionCoughAhemCough... wink.gif

Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 3 2005, 03:56 PM

This is just too much. Im of the opinion that next time sombody farts and shit slips out it should be called a Stromberg. " Damn, I was at work today and I let a Stromberg slip by" How can somebody live their life, or make a living by cheating and lying?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 3 2005, 03:57 PM

this thread tastes like shit chowtime.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 3 2005, 03:58 PM

We need to spread the wealth to the other lists.

Like they don't really know anyhow..

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 04:09 PM

just so i am perfectly clear...i am in no way suggesting you boycott Steve Stromberg (dba type4parts) solely as punnishment because of my deal. i just want you all to be informed consumers. make your own choises.

and don't throw me in that brier patch either. chairfall.gif

k

Posted by: airsix Jun 3 2005, 04:19 PM

No matter what, I think it's important to keep on the moral high ground. Even if the money is never returned I think it's important to do the right thing and return the engine. We know his address. Now we just need a local pilot and a jump-plane with a sliding door wide enough for someone to shove the pallet out of. Call it "operation sky-light". Do it right, you only get one shot. wink.gif

-Ben M.

ps - photos would be nice too.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2005, 04:28 PM

look on the sunny side, always on the sunny side!! i will have another 2.0 core when it comes home w00t.gif. deals done, finished. i'll take care of things from this point on.

k

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 3 2005, 04:31 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 3 2005, 03:28 PM)
look on the sunny side, always on the sunny side!! i will have another 2.0 core when it comes home w00t.gif. deals done, finished. i'll take care of things from this point on.

k

deal is done?


cant lead people up a mountain, without letting them see the view dry.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 3 2005, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jun 3 2005, 02:31 PM)
cant lead people up a mountain, without letting them see the view dry.gif

agree.gif

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jun 3 2005, 04:43 PM

WOW screwy.gif flipa.gif headbang.gif blink.gif
And to think I hurt my friggin back loading the POS into Craigs Jeep, Kev Im feelin you pain as Ive got a similar deal goin. mad.gif

Posted by: Dan_F Jun 3 2005, 05:14 PM

sorry to hear that kevin.
here, mike and rich and i thought we could complain about how heavy the engine was to move, but it wasn't even an entire engine. wtf?!?!
headbang.gif

Posted by: Verruckt Jun 3 2005, 05:37 PM

I haven't commented on this because I thought that it was blown out of proportion, and I thought that for some reason we weren't getting the full story. Sorry Kevin sad.gif

This really changed for me when I posted here, asking Jake a technical question. I got a pm from Type4 telling me what a crook/idiot/etc Jake is. Pretty much every bad thing in the book. I thought this rather unusual considering that I have not had any contact or dealings with Type4 before. But of course as I read on, yes... there it was, the sales pitch.

That pm alone was enough reason for me to never deal with him at all, ever. Jake has responded to my questions, and even spoke with him on the phone several months ago. Never once asked me to buy anything from him. But I will buy from him, he EARNED my business. On the same token, Type4 did basically the opposite.

It's unfortunate that there are people like this involved in such a small community. It's also a shame that there will be people who will never see this, and follow down the path that Kevin did.

Sorry for thinking that maybe you were exaggerating Kevin. As you mentioned earlier, you still have your dignity. Good luck to you. smile.gif

Posted by: william harris Jun 3 2005, 06:01 PM

Actions, inactions, evasions and misdirections tell the whole story. What a sordid mess!!! bs.gif This guy had the balls to post earlier today that "I offered his money back and he wouldn't take it." Now we see the real deal. icon8.gif

Posted by: Jake Raby Jun 3 2005, 08:43 PM

verruckt,
Please forward me that PM from Mr. Stromberg... It is probably the last piece to a multi-faceted puzzle that I have been assembling for months. I may also need a written statement from you as well, if so Mr Harris will be in touch with you for that.

Mr. Harris:
please prepare for blitzkrieg..
I will be back from my business trip on Wednesday and you will be the first person that I call.

If anyone else has received any sort of negative PMs or emails from Mr. Stromberg concerning me or my business please PM them to me here or email them to boss@aircooledtechnology.com where I will receive them on Wednesday.

Long story short: The days of copying my information, my products and defaming my character are over for Mr. Stromberg- I intend to pursue this with the most aggressive legal means possible.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 3 2005, 09:11 PM

Steve still shipped the engine to ya Kevin so I would inform the Feds as its MAIL FRAUD.

Blair got all his money back on a deal due to some Feds getting involved on a bad car parts deal awhile back.

I hope ya do go after this nut case Jake.




Posted by: street legal go-kart Jun 3 2005, 09:36 PM



"Release the hounds Watson!'

Sherlock Holmes


ar15.gif

JT

Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 4 2005, 12:27 AM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jun 3 2005, 07:43 PM)
The days of copying my information, my products and defaming my character are over for Mr. Stromberg- I intend to pursue this with the most aggressive legal means possible.

"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!" fighting19.gif gunner.gif ar15.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 12:32 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jun 3 2005, 08:11 PM)
Steve still shipped the engine to ya Kevin so I would inform the Feds as its MAIL FRAUD.

Blair got all his money back on a deal due to some Feds getting involved on a bad car parts deal awhile back.

I hope ya do go after this nut case Jake.

he didnt ship it. it was driven.



sorry it had to end like this guys.

Posted by: SLITS Jun 4 2005, 02:18 AM

There a million stories in the Naked City (about SS).........this is just one of them.

When this man dug a hole, he used a backhoe! Could have been another resource, but instead chose a path to self-destruction.

Posted by: aircooledboy Jun 4 2005, 08:04 AM

QUOTE (ChrisReale @ Jun 3 2005, 03:56 PM)
This is just too much. Im of the opinion that next time sombody farts and shit slips out it should be called a Stromberg. " Damn, I was at work today and I let a Stromberg slip by"

Surfin' in the throne room this morning, I just sent a wicked Stomberg over to water treatment plant. Mexican for dinner last night ya know. w00t.gif chairfall.gif lol2.gif bootyshake.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 4 2005, 08:22 AM

Sent a Stromberg surfing down the swirly this morning too. Sang ride, ride, ride the wild surf!

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 4 2005, 08:27 AM

We have an Alfred Smilie.
How about someone designing a Stromberg Smilie for us?
Maybe starting from this one - bootyshake.gif - but with the appropriate effluent added.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 4 2005, 08:37 AM

You guys are too cruel!


but Steve brings it on himself.. w00t.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 4 2005, 09:26 AM

Salute to the sub commander! I just launched the USS Stromberg!! (coffee always helps) biggrin.gif

pain30.gif <--------- Official "Stromberg" smiley. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Howard Jun 4 2005, 09:43 AM

for your consideration



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Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 4 2005, 09:49 AM

QUOTE (Howard @ Jun 4 2005, 07:43 AM)
for your consideration

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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2005, 10:28 AM

i put the heart in this beast and intended to let it beat on it's own. but... now stomberg wants to "debate" the facts that have surfaced over in the classifieds at the bird. the guy is a glutton for punishment. the usual distortion. he won't have many places to hide. thesamba will not be safe either.

k

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 4 2005, 11:03 AM

Kevin, this was done by his own actions and several times before if I remember correctly. You just aired one of his dealings, why feel guilty for letting everyone know what type of guy he is? He is who he wants to be, that is his problem that if he chooses to continue and reap the rewards of being an outcast so be it. All of our responses probably would have been kept to ourselves with little comment here if this was a single occurance. It isn't..

Posted by: SLITS Jun 4 2005, 11:29 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1948977#post1948977

Yeh.....ask Tony Bray about his friend's 2.0L heads for the 912E..your "full service machine shop" ran an exhaust stud in and cracked the support, which would have led to a crack in the port under heat...flycut 0.030" for no reason.....no worries, RIMCO fixed it for ya, measured them so that what you did was known. Nice delivery too....leave them on your front porch for the customer to pickup with no information. Guess you were out and busy building your reputation.

How do I know? They brought them to me for evaluation and considered buying used heads from me to save the engine. Even the ass-draggers are not immune....small community indeed.

I await with baited breath your replies to Mr. Raby. He may be an egotist and loud, but he knows what he is doing and stands behind it.

Posted by: seanery Jun 4 2005, 12:12 PM

Steve,
it seems that you are truley a scumbag. there have been folks who I respect stand up for you, you are embarrasing them. I hope that makes you happy. The word is out about you, and this time your actions are public and not speculation.

Howie, thanks for the new emoticon stromberg.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 4 2005, 12:24 PM

Don't forget this "new" site. I believe it is opperated by stromberg.gif


Warning! Warning! Warning!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 4 2005, 12:25 PM

Kevin,

Was the current issue whether the seller would refund the money before vs. after you returned it? I realize the risk you could end up with nothing but wouldn't you have more legal recourse if the engine was in the sellers possession?

I feel for your loss, my trust was burned on my transport of Neo914 to and from WA. The guy continued to say he would make good on the deal but has never returned a phone call.




Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2005, 01:52 PM

felix, i bought the engine from STEVE. too long to go through again. there have been 4, i think, threads related to this matter. 1st one got locked down, it's many, many pages back headbang.gif . 2nd was the "happy , happy..." thread headbang.gif . 3 got people all worked up and i was asked to delete it headbang.gif . i complied.givemebeer.gif

get the engine to cal. drop off the engine, collect casheirs check. yes on the first, can't be done on the latter.

k

Posted by: redshift Jun 4 2005, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (Howard @ Jun 4 2005, 11:43 AM)
for your consideration

LMAO Howard!


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Posted by: tat2dphreak Jun 4 2005, 05:11 PM

I notice stromberg.gif hasn't replied here... jack-ass...

Kev, I hope this thing gets worked out, even if it has to go through litigation for it to be done...

Steve: finger.gif


Jake: keep us all posted, we want to see him get what he deserves chair.gif

Posted by: Sammy Jun 4 2005, 06:50 PM

I don't know Steve, but I wouldn't buy water from him if I were dying of thirst.

I've been told by someone I trust that Steve Stromberg's main source of income is pimping his wife out on the internet on a sex camera website, i don't know if it's true but it wouldn't surprise me.


Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jun 4 2005, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 4 2005, 05:50 PM)
I don't know Steve, but I wouldn't buy water from him if I were dying of thirst.

I've been told by someone I trust that Steve Stromberg's main source of income is pimping his wife out on the internet on a sex camera website, i don't know if it's true but it wouldn't surprise me.

It looks like none of us will be doing business with Stromberg and it appears rightly so. However, bringing in family members is a low rent thing to do. I've met Steves wife. Nice lady. Nurse in Viet Nam. Too many emotional folks out there. Lets try to show some class and rip those who deserve it. "Pimping his wife out on the internet".
Brilliant comment!! (Not)
Cheers, Elliot

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Jun 4 2005, 06:59 PM)
QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 4 2005, 05:50 PM)
I don't know Steve, but I wouldn't buy water from him if I were dying of thirst.

I've been told by someone I trust that Steve Stromberg's main source of income is pimping his wife out on the internet on a sex camera website, i don't know if it's true but it wouldn't surprise me.

It looks like none of us will be doing business with Stromberg and it appears rightly so. However, bringing in family members is a low rent thing to do. I've met Steves wife. Nice lady. Nurse in Viet Nam. Too many emotional folks out there. Lets try to show some class and rip those who deserve it. "Pimping his wife out on the internet".
Brilliant comment!! (Not)
Cheers, Elliot

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Posted by: Headrage Jun 4 2005, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Jun 4 2005, 06:59 PM)
It looks like none of us will be doing business with Stromberg and it appears rightly so. However, bringing in family members is a low rent thing to do. I've met Steves wife. Nice lady. Nurse in Viet Nam. Too many emotional folks out there. Lets try to show some class and rip those who deserve it. "Pimping his wife out on the internet".
Brilliant comment!! (Not)
Cheers, Elliot

agree.gif givemebeer.gif

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 08:11 PM

wow this sounds vaguely familiar...... hide.gif

Posted by: CptTripps Jun 4 2005, 09:31 PM

Sheish...2 days in the teener without spending any time here, and I guess I missed a LOT!

Last week, Kevin replied to everything he had for sale in the parts section with a warning, and stromberg.gif replied with "Kevin, I'll take the motor back...Kevin, I said I'll take the motor back...Kevin, please stop posting, I said I'll take the motor back."

Now we get this???

I call bs.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 4 2005, 09:48 PM

laugh.gif Here, let me illustrate

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stromberg.gif

I crack me up..

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jun 4 2005, 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Jun 4 2005, 08:48 PM)
laugh.gif Here, let me illustrate

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stromberg.gif

I crack me up..

Hey! The top one looks like Zois!!
Cheers, Elliot

Posted by: Engman Jun 4 2005, 11:34 PM

AS a vendor I have not commented - until now.

This is unbeliveable.

Steve contacted me to repro some parts he wanted to make - months and months ago. Never sent anything and dont bother sending anything this way. Your rep is shot with the way you have handled yourself here.

rhodyguy - what of my parts I make do ya need?

Pay shipping and they are yours - not trying to make this into a sales thing but I want Steveo to know what a tight knit community we have. I also encorage the other vendors on this board to do the same.

I have a simple business plan - I always ask myself - would I buy it?

Steve (although its way too late) you really need to right this - its only gonna cost you in the future..........


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Posted by: ablose58 Jun 4 2005, 11:59 PM

Ya know after seeing all this crap of the injustuce done to Kev it has me sooo pissed I could just go down there personally and kick the stromberg.gif Ouof him, I am the kind of guy that is very easy going but when I get to the point that my eyes start to water a bit, you better watch out!!!!!!! ar15.gif ar15.gif Kevin is my friend and to think that I was actually considering buying from that POS,ugh I am pissed so here's to you mister finger.gif

Posted by: swood Jun 5 2005, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Jun 4 2005, 07:56 PM)
QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Jun 4 2005, 08:48 PM)
laugh.gif Here, let me illustrate

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(__O__)
          stromberg.gif

I crack me up..

Hey! The top one looks like Zois!!
Cheers, Elliot

I don't get it...


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Posted by: redshift Jun 5 2005, 12:08 AM

I DO(O DOO) Steve... wink.gif


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Posted by: boxstr Jun 5 2005, 12:11 AM

Al, calm down, I know how you feel and it is going to be okay. Just take a deep breath and go sit in your new seat, go vroom vroom, there it's all better now.
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Posted by: ablose58 Jun 5 2005, 12:14 AM

Craig this is utter BS, how can someone live with themself does he have no conscience? I guess I should try to calm down or I may do something I may regret later.AL PS do we have a prozac smiley? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Howard Jun 5 2005, 12:23 AM

Take 2 and call me in the morning..




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Posted by: ablose58 Jun 5 2005, 12:24 AM

laugh.gif mueba.gif aktion035.gif monkeydance.gif rocking nana.gif drunk.gif Too bad I am at work boy am I bored tonight!!!!!!!

Posted by: messix Jun 5 2005, 12:31 AM

so .... how ruined is steve[ stromberg.gif ] on the sites?

i saw the posted thread at p/p looks like some people arent getting it. spank.gif

it really looks like this guy is a fraud. cool_shades.gif

maybe he would do better at selling "rolex" watches on the corner. bs.gif

Posted by: Korijo Jun 5 2005, 12:43 AM

OMG! trying not to let this ruin my trip... atleast we're going home soon.
aloha cool_shades.gif

Posted by: Sammy Jun 5 2005, 09:21 AM

Aaron and Elliott, are you saying that what I was told is not true, or are you saying that it is true and we should pretend it isn't?

If it is not true i will delete the post and I suggest you do the same, since you quoted me.

But............. if it is true, i will not delete it. the post was about Steve. His wife supposedly supports him so she is by default part of this mess.
If his wife is involved in that type of income generating activity then i wil make my own judgement about how nice she is.

Posted by: boxstr Jun 5 2005, 09:25 AM

The bootyshake.gif stromberg.gif mobile is listed on craigslist. You can be one of the first on your block to wow your friends.

http://www.craigslist.org/pen/car/77050896.html
CCLINMYLIST

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 5 2005, 09:27 AM

the wife stuff is over the top guys. my turn, please delete it yourselves. i'd rather not pull the whole thread to make it go away. if any of you posted those references at the bird, please remove those as well. thanks.

k

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 5 2005, 09:31 AM

Just finished my morning cup... I feel a Stevie stromberg.gif coming on... pain30.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 5 2005, 09:39 AM

grapenuts w/raisins for an evening snack gets things moving in the morning. pray.gif

k


Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jun 5 2005, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 5 2005, 08:21 AM)
Aaron and Elliott, are you saying that what I was told is not true, or are you saying that it is true and we should pretend it isn't?

If it is not true i will delete the post and I suggest you do the same, since you quoted me.

But............. if it is true, i will not delete it. the post was about Steve. His wife supposedly supports him so she is by default part of this mess.
If his wife is involved in that type of income generating activity then i wil make my own judgement about how nice she is.

I don't do business with Steve and I WON'T do business with Steve. Of course what you said about him is true!! Haven't we all read it on the internet? I know about his reputation and have talked to people I trust whose opinions about him coincide with yours but comments about his wife are stupid and child like. It sounds like stuff I used to hear when I was in the 8th grade. I'm just concerned with all the juvenile behaviour that I sometimes read here. People can say what they please on forums like this one because thay can hide behind their keyboards and are not facing the person they are bad mouthing. IMHO that is a cowardly act.
Cheers, Elliot

Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 11:28 AM

Geez, looks like this thread be fun...might have to read the whole thing....nah, I'll just go fire up Manfred and go for a Sunday drive....

Posted by: seanery Jun 5 2005, 11:30 AM

just did a stromberg.gif

Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 5 2005, 11:44 AM

Had a few brews last night, and to my surprise I woke up at 8am and had a stromberg.gif from hell.

My beef with this situation is that there is somebody who knew what he was selling, passed it off as something else, got caught and is weaseling out. To me, somebody who operates this way is a liar, a thief and a waste of oxygen. And tgis shit he dragged up about offering it to a third party is pathetic, just like he is.

Posted by: Sammy Jun 5 2005, 12:02 PM


Elliott, this had nothing to do with you but you couldn't keep your nose out of it. We will continue this discussion face to face where you will have the opportunity to insult me in person. Then we will see who the coward is. I am sure we will have that opportunity soon, there are social get-togethers all the time in this area and I will make a point to attend.
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Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 12:07 PM

Oh fucking take a pill....everyone. cool_shades.gif

Posted by: messix Jun 5 2005, 12:10 PM

get outa the mud and quit playin dirty.

clean it up.

Posted by: skline Jun 5 2005, 12:17 PM

I think this thread is getting out of hand, now we have good upstanding members wanting to bout it out about talk.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 5 2005, 12:19 PM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 5 2005, 11:02 AM)
Elliott, this had nothing to do with you but you couldn't keep your nose out of it. We will continue this discussion face to face where you will have the opportunity to insult me in person. Then we will see who the coward is. I am sure we will have that opportunity soon, there are social get-togethers all the time in this area and I will make a point to attend.
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here is my take on it Sammy-

what does his wife's "business" have to do with Steve screwing somebody on an engine.... ???

again - just the way i look at it.... no insults hurled here....

AA

Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 12:23 PM

Yeah....yank the wrinkles over his head and hit him with yer ortho walker....

Posted by: messix Jun 5 2005, 12:27 PM

uuuuuggggggghhhhhhh..... my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Mr.C Jun 5 2005, 12:33 PM

Somebody should leave this on his doorstep in a burning paper bag. laugh.gif Yeah I'm childish. smile.gif


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Posted by: Sammy Jun 5 2005, 12:36 PM

Bullshit!
I posted something I felt relevant to Steve Stromberg's character, morals, and business ethics, which was one of the main points of this thread.
Elliott decides to jump in and he called me, let's see if i can list his insults directed at me:
stupid, childlike, 8th grade, juvenile, cowardly, low rent, etc.

Like i said, we will discuss this face to face, or he can post an apology and retract his insults and i will drop it.

Aaron and others, at this point the conflict is between Elliott and I, not you. Do you really want to stick your nose in it?



Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 12:38 PM

"I'm" trying to diffuse the problem with a little humor....take YOUR beef offline.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 5 2005, 12:42 PM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 5 2005, 11:36 AM)
Bullshit!
I posted something I felt relevant to Steve Stromberg's character, morals, and business ethics, which was one of the main points of this thread.
Elliott decides to jump in and he called me, let's see if i can list his insults directed at me:
stupid, childlike, 8th grade, juvenile, cowardly, low rent, etc.

Like i said, we will discuss this face to face, or he can post an apology and retract his insults and i will drop it.

Aaron and others, at this point the conflict is between Elliott and I, not you. Do you really want to stick your nose in it?

Sammy...

all i posted was my take on the situation. Im entitled to an opinion, as are you and elliot....
proceed in your retribution against elliot... rolleyes.gif

AA

Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 12:44 PM

Izzat Sammy (Gerald)...hmm, thought it was someone else.....I'm out.... dry.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 5 2005, 12:46 PM

and BTW- i think if steve was going to try to make it right...he would have done so by now.
if this situation could be solved....it would have been by now.



as far as this thread is concerned - its closed.



Kevin - proceed to start another thread if you feel the need to.
Sammy - take it to PM territory between you and elliot....


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