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Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 02:04 PM

I am getting closer and closer to getting my turbo type-4 together and running. The intake and exhaust system is currently being fab'ed by Marty Staggs at http://www.staggsracing.com.

I don't wanna show any pictures of his excellent work until it is completed, but here is a teaser of the intake manifolds that he welded together and polished up. Let me just tell you that his work is absolutely amazing.

-Britain

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Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 4 2005, 02:08 PM

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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2005, 02:20 PM

you going to put 2 minilights in the engine compartment to show them off? cool.gif . beautiful!!! are they shortened as well?

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Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 02:22 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 4 2005, 01:20 PM)
you going to put 2 minilights in the engine compartment to show them off? cool.gif . beautiful!!! are they shortened as well?

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Nah, they aren't shortened. However, they will be bolts to twin intercoolers!

-Britain

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 02:25 PM

so..... when does the motor run??? biggrin.gif

chrome dont get ya home.... but dang, they are sweet!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 02:26 PM

BTW- what are you using for TB's?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2005, 02:26 PM

that's what the 4 peg/ports(?) are for? what's the story?

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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 4 2005, 01:26 PM)
that's what the 4 peg/ports(?) are for? what's the story?

k

guessing injector bungs.....

intake temp sensors?

Posted by: redshift Jun 4 2005, 02:49 PM

You always 'guess bung'... laugh.gif

Nice Britain! Your car is a lucky girl!


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Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 4 2005, 02:52 PM

Britain,

Your project is going to be and look incredible. Just curious, have you checked that everything works or has this package of components been done before?

Posted by: ejm Jun 4 2005, 02:55 PM

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guessing injector bungs.....

agree.gif CIS injectors I would say..

Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jun 4 2005, 01:26 PM)
BTW- what are you using for TB's?

I am running a single TB from an sunfire...the math worked out that way.

-Britain

Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 05:25 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Jun 4 2005, 01:26 PM)
that's what the 4 peg/ports(?) are for? what's the story?

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Those bungs are for the injectors. The first attempt of welding bungs proved that you should have the car present before you start welding...the injectors hit the frame rails and therefore a new set had to be fab'ed with the injectors up higher. The old set now belongs to Andy as soon as he pays me for them...

-Britain




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Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 4 2005, 01:52 PM)
Britain,

Your project is going to be and look incredible. Just curious, have you checked that everything works or has this package of components been done before?

That is the fun of the project. I am not sure if anyone has done this before, but I am crossing each hurdle as it arises. This project has taken many turns and weathered through many issues. As example, the engine was impounded for a while and I had to go through hell to get it back, I did get visiting sessions though!

-Britain

Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 06:24 PM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 4 2005, 05:05 PM)
You can't turbo a 912 wink.gif rolleyes.gif

Nope, but you sure can get close!

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Couldn't resist!

-Britain

Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 4 2005, 06:35 PM

What type of numbers are you expecting to put out in regards to HP/Torque?

Posted by: Marty Jun 4 2005, 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 4 2005, 04:05 PM)
You can't turbo a 912 wink.gif rolleyes.gif

Wanna bet?
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Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Marty @ Jun 4 2005, 05:51 PM)
QUOTE (Sammy @ Jun 4 2005, 04:05 PM)
You can't turbo a 912 wink.gif  :rolleyes:

Wanna bet?
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Oh no, we got Marty to join the 914club. Sooner or later you will see him drag racing a teener!

-Britain

Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 4 2005, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (ChrisReale @ Jun 4 2005, 05:35 PM)
What type of numbers are you expecting to put out in regards to  HP/Torque?

My personal goals, most of which seem to be reasonable according to those involved, is over 300hp.

All I really want is a very unique, well balanced car with globs of HP! I guess that is the wish of most everyone else. It has been asked above if this combo has been done before...I am not sure if it has but if it hasn't, I want to be the first.

It is people like Marty, Jake, Brad-hole, Tony (TC Design), Hayden (WEVO), and Mark (Original Customs) & Brandon (Altissimo) who I owe all the credit to and who will get the exposure of the awesome work and contributions to my project.

-Britain

Posted by: nocones Jun 5 2005, 12:44 AM

Britain,

Those are gorgeous. The car is looking really good.

Marty, welcome to the club. After browsing through your website it took me a few minutes to pick my jaw up off the floor.
Really amazing work!
I look forward to seeing more. clap.gif

Posted by: redshift Jun 5 2005, 12:54 AM

QUOTE (Britain Smith @ Jun 4 2005, 09:01 PM)
All I really want is a very unique, well balanced car with globs of HP!  I guess that is the wish of most everyone else.

Congratulations!

Which award of the week would you like? Captain Obvious, or Supreme Asshat?

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screwy.gif dang smaarmy turbo guys...


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Posted by: ablose58 Jun 5 2005, 05:53 AM

drooley.gif drooley.gif Me likes alot smilie_pokal.gif mueba.gif

Posted by: turbo914v8 Jun 5 2005, 06:31 AM

It just goes to show that you really can turbo charge anything if you work at it. smash.gif
Great to have you aboard, looking forward to your progress. So far it looks awesome. You must have deep pockets biggrin.gif

Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 5 2005, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (turbo914v8 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:31 AM)
It just goes to show that you really can turbo charge anything if you work at it. smash.gif
Great to have you aboard, looking forward to your progress. So far it looks awesome. You must have deep pockets biggrin.gif

Why does someone have to have deep pockets to build a nice car? I am doing most of the work myself and have found lots of ways to resale parts and help people out in exchange.

-Britain

Posted by: redshift Jun 5 2005, 02:04 PM

..and it's coming out just beautiful..

Wrong body~!


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Posted by: turbo914v8 Jun 5 2005, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Britain Smith @ Jun 5 2005, 03:58 PM)
QUOTE (turbo914v8 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:31 AM)
It just goes to show that you really can turbo charge anything if you work at it. smash.gif
Great to have you aboard, looking forward to your progress. So far it looks awesome. You must have deep pockets biggrin.gif

Why does someone have to have deep pockets to build a nice car? I am doing most of the work myself and have found lots of ways to resale parts and help people out in exchange.

-Britain

Sorry didn’t mean to offend sad.gif speaking from experience you are completely right in that you don’t have to have deep pockets to build a nice car. Your car looks fabulous, great attention to detail. It’s the detail that makes it look expensive and well thought out. Hats off to you for doing the work yourself. I also do most of my fabrication my self. Saves a lot.

Posted by: Marty Aug 9 2005, 11:22 PM

Here are a few updated pics.

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Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 9 2005, 11:29 PM

schwing!

Posted by: jkeyzer Aug 9 2005, 11:34 PM

Britain, do you think the stub pipe between the injectors and the intake riser will cause any problems? I am concerned that not having the injector poking directly into the stream of air flowing into the head might cause problems like poor mixing of air/fuel. Does the spray pattern of the injectors mean that they will be spraying fuel directly onto the stub pipes? I wonder if fuel will collect there? Just thinking out loud, I don't know nothin...

Posted by: McMark Aug 9 2005, 11:45 PM

The injectors are in the manifold (I believe they are standard Weber IDF manifolds, maybe IDA) not in the intercooler pipes. And if I'm not mistaken, he had previously had a set of manifolds with the injectors lower, but they ran into the body, and had to be redone, with the injectors higher up. Not ideal, of course, but you have to work within your constraints. wink.gif

Posted by: Britain Smith Aug 10 2005, 01:00 AM

Mark is exactly right. I have another set of manifolds that were done with the engine on a stand and when it was installed in the engine bay of my 912 they hit the frame rails. The set on there now (as seen in the picture) have the infector bungs a little higher up and tilted so that they clear the frame rails. I do not think that I will have puddling problems, especially with a turbo. I don't have to worry about airflow as much as the NA guys do...although it is still important.

-Britain

Posted by: Marty Aug 10 2005, 01:08 AM

Beleive it or not, they still point almost directly at the backside of the intake valves. Puddling will not be an issue.
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Posted by: jkeyzer Aug 10 2005, 01:10 AM

Sounds good. Very cool setup!

Posted by: JmuRiz Aug 10 2005, 08:29 AM

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