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Posted by: wes Mar 12 2018, 07:34 PM

I’m planning on going to a front oil cooler so would like to do the GT style bumper and valance. Is there a known pattern for the cutout on the bumper that anyone has found or what have others done on a steal bumper? I have a early OEM bumper to work with.
Thanks!

Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 12 2018, 07:46 PM

McMark did mine. Ask him...


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Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2018, 07:54 PM

If you are going to use a glass valance, do the mirror image on the bumper.

Posted by: wes Mar 12 2018, 08:37 PM

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If you are going to use a glass valance, do the mirror image on the bumper.


I very likely will use a glass valance and that was my first thought although would very much so like to use steel valance and just thought if I can get a pattern that would be best.

Posted by: Justinp71 Mar 12 2018, 11:28 PM

Wes- Are you going to do the work yourself? I wonder if we can get a group buy going on fabricating these bumpers. I know there are a few of us that would be interested in a Steel GT front bumper.


Posted by: wes Mar 13 2018, 12:03 AM

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Wes- Are you going to do the work yourself? I wonder if we can get a group buy going on fabricating these bumpers. I know there are a few of us that would be interested in a Steel GT front bumper.


Wishing I had the talent to do it myself. Actually a group buy is a great idea.
Any ideas on a bumper shop that might be interested doing the fabrication?
My bumper is going to need some work before the GT work.

Posted by: wes Mar 13 2018, 12:04 AM

Wishing Mark was still here!

Posted by: wes Mar 13 2018, 12:34 AM

Just noticed Erick mentioned for fabrication of a GT bumper in another thread! Shipping is a big addition $$.

Posted by: mb911 Mar 13 2018, 05:51 AM

I could do all the fabrication work but need bumpers to do it on and there just is no source at this point. 914rubber is working on a possible group buy. Haven't seen Mark Henry in a while but he has a buck he made..

Posted by: McMark Mar 13 2018, 07:04 AM

I'm doing one now. Sent the bumper out to have the chrome stripped first and waiting for it to come back. You DON'T want to start cutting and welding on a chromed bumper. You also don't want to grind the welds smooth, let the rechrome shop handle that.

As for the shape, as mentioned, get a fiberglass valence and match the two to each other. Make sure the bumper fits on your car before you start. Make sure the opening is centered on the bumper. Make sure the left and right sides match and the top of the opening is level with the bumper top/bottom. And finally, for the best look, make sure to add in the walls going back to the body.

It's a big ass job to do right. If you want a 'group buy' I would recommend talking to the stainless bumper suppliers and see about getting them to make them. That would be the cheapest and easiest, overall.

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 13 2018, 01:48 PM

McMark did Rob's bumper on the silver GT above, and his is the best I've seen on a steel bumper car.

I've seen a few fiberglass versions well done, but you sacrifice a small amount of safety for not much weight savings.

Posted by: wes Mar 13 2018, 02:06 PM

I’ve seen Robs car a number of times (with envy I’ll say every thing about his car is perfect) and I think I remember seeing a thread Mark did on it as well.

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 13 2018, 10:31 PM

I asked Eric and PMB to do one for my car. It turned out really well and it was reasonably priced.


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Posted by: Justinp71 Mar 13 2018, 10:32 PM

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I could do all the fabrication work but need bumpers to do it on and there just is no source at this point. 914rubber is working on a possible group buy. Haven't seen Mark Henry in a while but he has a buck he made..


Ya I was hoping to get a set from Mark Henry, but it’s been awhile. He did mention he was suppose to get new samples for approval I think in December so it may still be alive, dunno.

I was thinking a group buy specifically for people with a metal bumper that want them converted to a gt bumper. Other issue is most metal bumpers need other cosmetic fixes too.

Posted by: effutuo101 Mar 14 2018, 08:32 AM

QUOTE(echocanyons @ Mar 13 2018, 08:31 PM) *

I asked Eric and PMB to do one for my car. It turned out really well and it was reasonably priced.

Love the violet!

Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2018, 08:49 AM

QUOTE(echocanyons @ Mar 13 2018, 09:31 PM) *

I asked Eric and PMB to do one for my car. It turned out really well and it was reasonably priced.


Dang, that bumper is so perfect it almost looks photoshopped with that reflection!

To my pea sized brain, it seems like one could throw a bumper up on a large CNC mill / router and cut out the opening.

Then fabricate a separate piece that follows the shape and bond it to the backside (epoxy or braze) . It really depends on how one wants the transition from front of bumper to the opening. Ideally you'd want the radius to match the valance but if you didn't care as much?




Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 14 2018, 09:09 AM

we have done many by hand and then got them rechromed. We could do a run from our supplier in vietnam I am sure but we would probably need a commitment for 30 of them, and they would be 1500 each, yet stainless and perfect. Probably just not worth it, yet finding chrome bumpers to cut fit and rechrome is very hard, and mild steel bumpers will just not do.

Posted by: ValcoOscar Mar 14 2018, 09:36 AM

I like Jim's (lucky9146)


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Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2018, 10:25 AM

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I like Jim's (lucky9146)


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That is a nice bumper.

Posted by: burton73 Mar 14 2018, 11:18 AM

PMB Performance did mine. They say there are great platers in Sandy UT.

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Posted by: McMark Mar 14 2018, 11:21 AM

Jim's (lucky9146) Looks pretty great! Having the added material to complete the inside, instead of a simple cutout makes all the difference.

I don't think I've seen that valence either. Did he make/modify it himself? Wait.... is that steel as well???

Posted by: ValcoOscar Mar 14 2018, 11:23 AM




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Jim's (lucky9146) Looks pretty great! Having the added material to complete the inside, instead of a simple cutout makes all the difference.

I don't think I've seen that valence either. Did he make/modify it himself? Wait.... is that steel as well???



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I also like the finishing metal details...looks sweet in person.

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Posted by: wes Mar 14 2018, 07:28 PM

I really don’t think that a group buy is going to work with this due to bumper conditions mine anyway. I’m looking at having it done right now.

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Posted by: JOEPROPER Mar 15 2018, 01:41 PM

Get that dog a set of goggles.

Nice work!

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 15 2018, 02:04 PM

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Get that dog a set of goggles.

Nice work!
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