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Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:03 PM

no CV joint tool....dont know what i'm talking about. BUT they have starred ratchet socket things, but i cant find in the specs under transmission or rear driveshaft sections of my haynes where it mentions bolt size.....

somebody please help me out here
meanwhile, i'll look in 914 info

Posted by: mike_the_man Jun 4 2005, 05:05 PM

Do you have a VW shop or something? Thats where I got mine. A VW dealer might even have one. I don't know the size off hand, but I believe its a 12 point.

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:07 PM

12 point bolt? so not torx bolt?

Posted by: mike_the_man Jun 4 2005, 05:09 PM

No, its a torx style, but it has 12 points instead of 6. So the tool has 12 points on it. I think its 12, anyway. I'll count mine in a bit, just to make sure.

Posted by: Lawrence Jun 4 2005, 05:14 PM

VW triple-square CW joint tool. They probably have them hanging on the rack.

Oh, make sure you actually have the OEM triple-square CV joint bolts... so many have been replaced with regular allen-head bolts.

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:15 PM

the kid gave me a wierd look when i asked him...so its a squarish end instead of the torx end?? I got the jeep to drive over there, so i wont have to limp on 2.5 cylinders in my porsche to get there and back.

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:16 PM

QUOTE (Lawrence @ Jun 4 2005, 05:14 PM)

VW triple-square CW joint tool.  They probably have them hanging on the rack.   Oh, make sure you actually have the OEM triple-square CV joint bolts... so many have been replaced with regular allen-head bolts.

good thinking, just pull the boot back to have a looksy? yup good work....assuming that there is a disernable difference between the allen head bolt and the triple-point VW OEM bolt, I would say I have allen head....

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jun 4 2005, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Jun 4 2005, 06:16 PM)

QUOTE (Lawrence @ Jun 4 2005, 05:14 PM) VW triple-square CW joint tool.  They probably have them hanging on the rack.   Oh, make sure you actually have the OEM triple-square CV joint bolts... so many have been replaced with regular allen-head bolts. good thinking, just pull the boot back to have a looksy?

yep! and if they REALLY don't have it, you may be able to get them out with vise-grips... then replace them with allen heads when you put them back in... but you will still need the tool soon, there are more of those type bolts on the engine shroud(impeller)... I replaced those with allen head bolts too...

Posted by: ben1440 Jun 4 2005, 05:25 PM

I got the correct tool from kregans. 8 or 10 mm 12 star tool. came with a a set of 4 different sizes for about $15. Had to use it to remove my engine fan today

Posted by: mike_the_man Jun 4 2005, 05:34 PM

Make sure you look really close. It looked to me like a regular allen head as well, but it's not, and you can bugger it up trying to use an allen wrench on it. Just to clarify, it's very similar to a torx, it just has 12 points. Just make sure you know what you have before you start trying to loosen them.

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:44 PM

mine "LOOKS" like a allen head.....7mm i believe, unless its SAE.....then i'm in a hole....my 6 almost fits....i dont want to strip it out though....vice-grips you say? anybody got pics so i can compare?

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (mike_the_man @ Jun 4 2005, 05:34 PM)

Make sure you look really close. It looked to me like a regular allen head as well, but it's not, and you can bugger it up trying to use an allen wrench on it. Just to clarify, it's very similar to a torx, it just has 12 points. Just make sure you know what you have before you start trying to loosen them.

sent that b4 i saw this post....i'm off to get the tool then....

Posted by: bd1308 Jun 4 2005, 06:21 PM

no beans.....i'll use a wrench to get them off.....

Posted by: Gint Jun 4 2005, 09:40 PM

You are truly amazing... read this

TRIPLE SQUARE - think about it - like a Star of David is a double triangle. NOT the same as a Torx or Allen head. Allen head is 6 points, triple square is 12 points. Clean out one of the bolt heads and be certain of what you have.

Then... get the right tool! If you try to use pliers or vice grips you might get them all out, but you'll be pissed off.

Posted by: ! Jun 4 2005, 09:46 PM

A vice grip properly placed will crack them loose.....

Posted by: CptTripps Jun 4 2005, 09:52 PM

You need to STOP asking your FLAPS for ANYTHING! They have pointed you in the wrong direction SO many times...

I bought mine from the Mac-Tools truck at the garage across from my office. I saw him there, ran over, paid $29 and had the tool...

I know...$29 is high, but it's 4" long, and las a lifetime warrenty...

Here is what you need...I believe it is the 8MM one.

http://www.mytoolstore.com/sk/sk03093.html

Posted by: ! Jun 4 2005, 09:53 PM

Yep...that's the one. Pelican and AA should carry them as well....

Posted by: echocanyons Jun 4 2005, 09:54 PM

If you do use the proper tool...

Spray the head out with brake cleaner and put the tool in and give it a tap with a mallet to ensure it is well seated.

Posted by: ! Jun 4 2005, 09:55 PM

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_CAT055_pg11.htm

Here's the full set for $40.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 4 2005, 10:03 PM

NAPA carries them. The 928 uses a larger triple square on the flywheel bolts. NAPA had it in stock! Could have knocked me over with a feather. BTW the counter man didn't know what it was for but he found it on a carousel of specialty tools they have on display.

Posted by: ! Jun 4 2005, 10:04 PM

Posted by: ! Jun 4 2005, 10:05 PM

They look like S&K tools....they should be online or a dealer near you.

Posted by: swood Jun 4 2005, 10:57 PM

Dude I've been looking for a store named Flaps in my area and can't find it in the phone book.

Dang it.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (swood @ Jun 4 2005, 09:57 PM)

Dude I've been looking for a store named Flaps in my area and can't find it in the phone book. Dang it.

get a round of applause for the village idiot

Posted by: swood Jun 4 2005, 11:02 PM

Yuck Fou.

Posted by: Rand Jun 4 2005, 11:03 PM

Yeah, but the wood in his screen name tells you he has the proper tool.



Thanks for the chuckle swood!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (swood @ Jun 4 2005, 10:02 PM)

Yuck Fou.

Mucker Futher! ill kill you!

Posted by: swood Jun 4 2005, 11:07 PM

Geeez! Ease up on the NoDoz and get back to the books grasshopper.

Make us proud, gadeate and help us fix our crappy cars for cripes sake!






















So when are you free?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 4 2005, 11:11 PM

i have finals Mon, and Tues..

need money to paint car. will do all odd jobs for cash (no - not those jobs mike/steve/peanutgallery)

Posted by: Engman Jun 4 2005, 11:20 PM

I got mine at an Autozone in Clarksville, IN.

Comes in like a pack of three or four sizes - I think I paid like $12

M

Posted by: Mueller Jun 4 2005, 11:38 PM

QUOTE

the kid gave me a wierd look when i asked him...so its a squarish end instead of the torx end?? I got the jeep to drive over there, so i wont have to limp on 2.5 cylinders in my porsche to get there and back.

do you go to Radio Shack to buy parts for your linex computer/server?????

more than likely not and for good reason, same applies to going to the FLAPS for parts for you 914....

Posted by: redshift Jun 5 2005, 12:00 AM

QUOTE (CptTripps @ Jun 4 2005, 11:52 PM)

I know...$29 is high, but it's 4" long, and las a lifetime warrenty...

like the sandbox says:

A man will pay $2.00 for a $1.00 item he needs.

A woman will pay $1.00 for a $2.00 item she doesn't need.



M

Posted by: scruz914 Jun 5 2005, 12:01 AM

I have found that there are generic FLAPS and professional FLAPS.

Generics carry things like fake sheepskin seat covers, have a whole aisle dedicated to "apperance" accesories, sell cheapo pocket rockets which are usually parked out front, and are manned by minimum wage workers that spend the majoritiy of their time checking out the stuff in the apperance accessory aisle.

The professional shops are where the local service guys go for parts, special tools, and they are manned by guys (sometimes gals) who know cars, parts, and tools.

NAPA sells a triple square 12 point tool that you can get at a pro FLAPS. The part number was posted in a thread 6 to 8 months ago but I'll be damned if I can find it. I did pull a picture of the tool off of an old thread. See below.

I found that I had a combination of 12 point and allen hex bolts on my CV joints. You need to clean all of them to make sure of what you have. Either tool can go into either type of bolt head with a little force. You could screw the head up if you try to remove a 12 point bolt with an allen wrench.



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Posted by: bperry Jun 5 2005, 12:20 PM

Both Autozone and Pepboys stock this tool.
You will probably have to look around on the shelves yourself
(I did) because they told me they didn't carry anything like this.

The one at Pepboys is made by Lisle and the one I bought
from Autozone is a generic "OEM" brand made in Taiwan.

Depending on the store you go to (at least around here in Dallas)
you may have to show them the picture of the back of the label.....

Cost is around $10-$12.


--- Bill




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Posted by: ! Jun 5 2005, 12:26 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jun 4 2005, 09:11 PM)

i have finals Mon, and Tues.. need money to paint car. will do all odd jobs for cash (no - not those jobs mike/steve/peanutgallery)

Can you operate a chop saw w/o cutting on yer Schwartz?