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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ George did alright (AA) rear roll bar pad

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2018, 11:24 AM

As many of you have been aware, George decided to make the roll bar pads we have been working on for some time. I have to admit, dimensionally and for fit it works. Yes many do need these.

The only issue we had with this piece is the finish. It is more of a spatter texture, that and the gloss level is more flat. Overall a goo piece for a daily driver. So after some discussion we opted to bring in 10 and provide a daily driver quality part. We will also be continuing to make the concurs piece.

The agreement is that we will not undersell AA in price. We will match any sales.
Currently retail is $250.
We will also make our version available to AA with the same understanding.

In stock now


https://shop.914rubber.com/searchquick-submit.sc?keywords=aa


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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2018, 11:26 AM

To best describe the difference -
at 15 ft you can see the gloss and sheen is flat.
Upon closer inspection you can see the spatter texture instead of the grained testure


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Posted by: Coondog Mar 17 2018, 12:01 PM

How much are your concours pad and do you have them in stock ??

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 17 2018, 12:05 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 17 2018, 10:24 AM) *
The agreement is that we will not undersell AA in price. We will match any sales.
...
We will also make our version available to AA with the same understanding.

Now there is something you don't see too often!

Kudos to both of you, we need as many people/businesses supporting our little cars as possible.
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Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 17 2018, 12:13 PM

Looks like spray on bed liner barf.gif That's a pretty big mistake.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 17 2018, 12:26 PM

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Mar 17 2018, 02:13 PM) *

Looks like spray on bed liner barf.gif That's a pretty big mistake.

George calls it “perfect” and “spot on” in his for sale thread.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2018, 01:22 PM

QUOTE(Coondog @ Mar 17 2018, 11:01 AM) *

How much are your concours pad and do you have them in stock ??

Ours will be in the mid 300 range.

Posted by: worn Mar 17 2018, 01:23 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 17 2018, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Mar 17 2018, 02:13 PM) *

Looks like spray on bed liner barf.gif That's a pretty big mistake.

George calls it “perfect” and “spot on” in his for sale thread.

Maybe, but I still think this is a wise move for everyone. Thanks Mark and George

Posted by: 914Next Mar 18 2018, 06:26 AM

QUOTE(worn @ Mar 17 2018, 03:23 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 17 2018, 10:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Mar 17 2018, 02:13 PM) *

Looks like spray on bed liner barf.gif That's a pretty big mistake.

George calls it “perfect” and “spot on” in his for sale thread.

Maybe, but I still think this is a wise move for everyone. Thanks Mark and George



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Posted by: Edward Blume Mar 18 2018, 07:08 AM

Finally!

Thanks to both for the effort. smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 18 2018, 07:16 AM

Mark,

As long as your giving us a product review can you comment on outer material? Is it the same as the product you used for the dash or more ridged like the original part? I understand the appearance is not the same as the original part but I am asking about materials used.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 18 2018, 10:46 PM

The material is a fairly hard plastic, it has some give, but not the same material we will be using. I did try wrapping it. There was an option for a leatherette on the 73 “S” model. Unfortunately for me the material wouldn’t bond with out more aggressive solvents.

I will be using the same material we use on the dash.

Again, not putting the AA dash down, it is a solution for a daily driver, and I am stocking them. Just want to be as through as I can be on the description.


Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 18 2018, 10:50 PM

I think I have to second or third on the list for the one you’re making Mark. I’ll continue to wait... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Mblizzard Mar 19 2018, 12:17 PM

I will have to agree with Mark and everyone that this is a good option for all 914 owners especially for something that was unattainable for so long.

Doesn't matter if your 914 Rubber or AA it takes a huge commitment in time and money to get these types of products to the market. So even if the finish is not exact on the AA version it is better than what I have on my car at this point. A different texture verses missing chunks and many cracks seems like a minor issue.

I am a customer of 914 Rubber and AA and I have an understanding of what it takes to get these products developed and made. In the end I want the best quality and closest to original as possible so we will see what the end result is and make the call.

Well done guys!

Posted by: pete000 Mar 19 2018, 02:30 PM

So much effort to re manufacture a part like this and to miss on the appropriate grain is a big disappointment. Will be anxious to see the improved version with the correct grain.

It reminds me of all the Vintage VW parts out there, some clearly not as good as others.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 20 2018, 09:54 AM

We thought there could be a way top help each other, yes it's not perfect, but it does fit, and would look better than a cracked up or missing one. The difference is what we are going through. This bumper is 85% correct ( thing mid B and it did have a significant cost / effort), but to get from 85 to 100 it's an exponential curve of cost and time. This is one of the things that I struggle with.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2018, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 19 2018, 04:30 PM) *

So much effort to re manufacture a part like this and to miss on the appropriate grain is a big disappointment. Will be anxious to see the improved version with the correct grain.

It reminds me of all the Vintage VW parts out there, some clearly not as good as others.

I do applaud Mark for making a deal with George to make it available to the market but I think it sucks that George is dishonest about the part looking the same as the original. If someone overseas buys the part expecting to get a perfect match they will be stuck with it since return shipping will probable come close to the cost of the part.

Posted by: Mblizzard Mar 20 2018, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 20 2018, 08:02 AM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 19 2018, 04:30 PM) *

So much effort to re manufacture a part like this and to miss on the appropriate grain is a big disappointment. Will be anxious to see the improved version with the correct grain.

It reminds me of all the Vintage VW parts out there, some clearly not as good as others.

I do applaud Mark for making a deal with George to make it available to the market but I think it sucks that George is dishonest about the part looking the same as the original. If someone overseas buys the part expecting to get a perfect match they will be stuck with it since return shipping will probable come close to the cost of the part.



Unfortunately some of that is marketing. My wife is in marketing and sometimes things are presented in the best light possible. But I will say if you are going to state in the description "we have now developed perfect ones." You have to expect others to have different opinions. As that is a very strong statement.

Maybe better stated would be developed the most perfect ones currently available. Doesn't have the same appeal. I guess that is why I am a scientist and not in marketing.

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 20 2018, 11:39 AM

'Suitable replacement'

Posted by: bbrock Mar 20 2018, 11:54 AM

"Perfect fit with modern pebble texture" would work for me. Some might even prefer the texture but a heads up that it is different would be good.

I'm also a scientist with a wife with a marketing background. beerchug.gif

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 20 2018, 12:13 PM

these look great and fit fine, although the grain is not perfect, for the concours guys, Just Dashes reskins the roll bar bolsters for 350 each plus shipping both ways. They do a good job, but their grain does not match very well either!!!!

Has any one noted the smooth vinyl grain difference between the 72-74 models and the 75 76 models?

Posted by: rdauenhauer Mar 20 2018, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Mar 20 2018, 09:15 AM) *

Maybe better stated would be developed the most perfect ones currently available. Doesn't have the same appeal. I guess that is why I am a scientist and not in marketing.


I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night? confused24.gif

Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2018, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Mar 20 2018, 02:13 PM) *

these look great and fit fine, although the grain is not perfect, for the concours guys, Just Dashes reskins the roll bar bolsters for 350 each plus shipping both ways. They do a good job, but their grain does match very well either!!!!

Has any one noted the smooth vinyl grain difference between the 72-74 models and the 75 76 models?

Then why in your ad did you say it was perfect?

Posted by: raynekat Jun 28 2018, 11:57 PM

Any update on when 914 Rubber will have their "more correct appearing" version ready to sell? I need one.

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Jun 29 2018, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 17 2018, 01:05 PM) *

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 17 2018, 10:24 AM) *
The agreement is that we will not undersell AA in price. We will match any sales.
...
We will also make our version available to AA with the same understanding.

Now there is something you don't see too often!

Kudos to both of you, we need as many people/businesses supporting our little cars as possible.
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jun 29 2018, 07:42 AM

we also have the original ones that were resigned by just dashes, they do great work but it is very very costly

Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 29 2018, 10:55 AM

The new ones should be ready in a few months. We are just finishing up a big project with large tooling that I'm sure a few of you can use. just a matter of how much we have out in tooling at once.

Posted by: thelogo Jun 29 2018, 12:32 PM

Just curious but is it possible to
Build a concorse car

Or only real true original survivors are considered

Concorse material .



Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jun 29 2018, 01:08 PM

years ago we took an original paint Zambezi green 1.8 and ordered all new factory parts for it, took it apart and built a true concours car, but the paint was factory and perfect and the car had low miles. It made a concours award winner.

THESE days it is impossible to purchase new factory parts, even the factory is making cheap repros for what they make, so although a car can be made clean, the concours winner is nil to be had unless you have an original unmolested car (for example where does one get a factory genuine carpet kit? (that is the first giveaway)

Some of us have these original cars, even some with more miles on them, that are in concours condition, and we have several cars here that we restored years ago that would qualify for the concours competition (like the original motor trend import car of the year a 1971 1.7, but these cars, again, were done when one could order all of the factory parts one's pocket book could afford


QUOTE(thelogo @ Jun 29 2018, 11:32 AM) *

Just curious but is it possible to
Build a concorse car

Or only real true original survivors are considered

Concorse material .

Posted by: thelogo Jun 29 2018, 07:10 PM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Jun 29 2018, 12:08 PM) *

years ago we took an original paint Zambezi green 1.8 and ordered all new factory parts for it, took it apart and built a true concourse car








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Intresting but can you be more specific when you say


" years ago "


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