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Posted by: Tdskip Mar 23 2018, 04:52 PM

Happy Friday gentleman. Gabe and I were talking and we both have transmissions that need some attention, and that got us thinking that we should get a group of people together and do a tech day as we open these things up and maybe even fix them...

What do you think?

Posted by: ValcoOscar Mar 23 2018, 06:29 PM

My bud Jerry and I would be interested in attending.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 23 2018, 08:11 PM

Great!

Who else from the OC 914 mafia would be game?

Posted by: proto31 Mar 23 2018, 08:19 PM

I’d be in, assuming the date works

Dan

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Mar 23 2018, 09:36 PM

I would be interested.

Posted by: infraredcalvin Mar 23 2018, 10:30 PM

I’d be interested too depending on date...

Posted by: Blue6 Mar 23 2018, 11:17 PM

Me too...

Posted by: Beach914 Mar 24 2018, 09:55 AM

me too depending on the date chosen.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 24 2018, 10:02 AM

Good crowd coming together.

Will work on dates!

Posted by: yeahmag Mar 26 2018, 02:30 AM

I’d be game. I also have a few parts that may help.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 26 2018, 08:15 AM

Great.

I will huddle with Gabe on location and timing.

Posted by: bdstone914 Mar 26 2018, 08:25 AM

Anybody in the gang know a lot about transmissions ? I know how to take them apart but that is about my extent of knowledge.

Kinda of need someone who knows their stuff.

Posted by: Krieger Mar 26 2018, 08:42 AM

Why not summon the great Dr. Evil for a rebuild clinic?

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 26 2018, 08:54 AM

You rang?

Timing may be close to perfect, actually. I am looking to quit this current job so may have lots of time coming up, need to generate some income, will need to visit mom out in San Diego that is fighting cancer, and she hasn't seen my 5yo in 3 years. Hmmm. So, as others commented, "Depends on date." Also, depends on if yall want me out there. I didn't see if someone else had decided to hold the clinic.

Posted by: sb914 Mar 26 2018, 09:11 AM

Now we're talking!!

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 26 2018, 09:14 AM

Done!

PM sent Dr.

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 26 2018, 09:48 AM

Might as well put out some basics ahead of time:

- I recommend all new major bearing (2 input shaft, 2 pinion) and can get these at a deep group discount (retail around $1300).

- Seal kits (I can get, or you can get).

- Pre inspection of your ring and pinion is recommended. Last clinic in VA a guy bought a "ran when parked" transmission only to find the pinion head was very messed up. Luckily I had a core handy to sell him. Pre inspection is easy and I will talk you all through it.

- I may be low on some used parts, so will try to secure discounted new where I can. I have sources. Mostly low on synchro bands last I checked. They are not too pricey, the bearings are the killer cost if you go retail.

- This would be a planned 2 day event. See my links below in my signature for some of the clinics I have done.

- Ask lots of questions, there are no dumb ones. No one was born knowing how to do this stuff, we all started with no idea.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 26 2018, 09:56 AM

I think it would be useful to actually tackle two scenarios. One would be a tuneup or limited synchro replacement ( if that indeed is possible ) and the second would be a full soup to nuts rebuild.

I've got the patient box that needs a Synchro, so I consider that sourced.

:-)

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 26 2018, 10:04 AM

I would be interested. I need to 'check' one trans that I believe is OK and another that needs rebuild for popping out of gear. Hopefully I can get one to use and another as a spare out of them

Posted by: 914_teener Mar 26 2018, 10:06 AM

I"m in if Doc is there and can depending on planning and date.

Rob

Posted by: 1adam12 Mar 26 2018, 05:17 PM

Well, I'm down! Transmission is already out of the car awaiting my side shift conversion. I'm in the I.E. but if the date works I would bring my trans down and see what you guys are ripping into.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 26 2018, 05:42 PM

Looks like 2nd half of May at this point.

Really excited to see this coming together.

Posted by: Edward Blume Mar 26 2018, 07:57 PM

I need to blow my transmission so I can go.... the Dr. is that good and the experience is that good.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 26 2018, 08:27 PM

Tell you what, i'll give you my broken one and you can give me your healthy one. I would hate for you to miss out, I'm good like that.

;-)


Come down anyway!

Posted by: Edward Blume Mar 26 2018, 10:22 PM

It's be my 3rd one...

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 26 2018, 10:57 PM

I have a known good transmission sitting in my garage that could probably be looked into.

Worked when parked.

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 27 2018, 07:26 AM

Great response to the idea, we may be on to something here.

Let me huddle with Gabe and the good Dr and get back to everyone on format.

Thanks!

Posted by: Boomingbeetle Mar 27 2018, 11:20 AM

I am also in for this. I have a side shift that grinds a bit going into 2nd, and I have another complete side shift in unknown condition. Plus the good trans that is actually in my car. I’d like to make one excellent trans between the two spares, or repair them both and sell one. I also know a guy who has a few core side shifts and tail shifts but I think he’s asking $300 or $350 for them

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 27 2018, 09:17 PM

You can save a bunch if you have more than one core. I may even pick up some pieces and do some horse trading when I am there. The guy asking $300-350 might be appropriate depending on condition. They are like oysters; ugly, smelly, and you dont know if they contain a pearl or cholera.

Posted by: mtndawg Mar 27 2018, 09:48 PM

I’m in the Sacramento area but thinking about making the scenic I-5 drive for this.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 27 2018, 10:24 PM

Depending on the date I would come up from north of San Diego for this.

Posted by: DennisO Mar 28 2018, 07:48 PM

Dr Evil,

You probably have more experience with this, then anyone. Do you use Genuine Porsche bearings, or a mix of manufacturers?

- I recommend all new major bearing (2 input shaft, 2 pinion) and can get these at a deep group discount (retail around $1300).

-Dennis

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 29 2018, 09:43 AM

Aftermarket. No way to get them cheaper using Porsche. There isn’t anything magical about them, so no need to pay more.

Posted by: DennisO Mar 29 2018, 11:40 AM

thanks - makes sense.

For your classes, do you bring the special tools to check/set the pinion gear depth, or us that too complicated for these hands on classes?

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 29 2018, 12:03 PM

Is there going to be enough room? By the amount of peeps and gear boxes, looks like we might need to rent a warehouse and some work benches.

Dr. Evil, what are the most common wearing parts needed on these gearboxes?

I only have a gasket set so far

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 29 2018, 01:14 PM

The way we disassemble/reassemble, the tolerances are conserved so no need to check/set R/P at clinic. It is time consuming, takes practice, and I would not be able to at the clinic setting. This is why it is imperative to check your R/P health prior to clinic so we can assess if another core is best.

Now, when I do rebuilds at my shop I do the full deal of checking, adjusting, replacing, etc. But, as you can imagine, the cost is a little more. If I hadddent been doing this for over 10yrs I would be less sure of my methods

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 29 2018, 01:18 PM

So, oddly enough, you really only need a 2x2’ space to work. You won’t need case on the bench until the stack is done, etc, so only need enough room to work on focused part. The rest gets stashed under the table for later. Last time I did a large group it was outside in NorCal. The one before that was in a large garage in Tacoma. What size shop do we have available?

Common wear parts are dog teeth for 1-3, bands for 1-3, slider for 1/r, and slider for 2/3, bearings.

So....should I start a separate thread with sign up and the usual answers as asked here?

Posted by: Tdskip Mar 29 2018, 01:41 PM

We should be able to accommodate 20 people plus a fan base / cheerleaders.

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 30 2018, 09:38 AM

Let ex wife know that I plan to be out of town end of May. I don't see how I can bring my 5yo as even though my girlfriend will be there, he is 5 and these clinics can be boring if you don't know what is going on and are 5. Those with kids understand. Ill still plan to swing down to SD to see Mom and Aunts. They will just have to come to OH (gasp) to see my son, maybe. Ex said she could watch the kid while Im gone.

Posted by: Steve Mar 30 2018, 09:49 AM

I no longer have a 901, since I switched to a 915, but would love to watch and learn. I do need to eventually swap my 5th gear out to due to a horrible whine, but I can do that with the trans in the car, since 5th and reverse are in the nose cone versus 1st and reverse with a 901.

Posted by: don-6 Apr 6 2018, 10:23 AM

I am interested in this event.
Is there any new info?
Will the Evil Dr. be making a visit to the O.C.?

Posted by: Tdskip Apr 6 2018, 10:34 AM

Hi Don.

Yes! The event planning is moving forward, looks like late May.

Thanks to Gabe we have a faciiity in Huntington Beach and we have the minimum number of people to make it happen.

Dr Evil and Gabe are working on a specific Saturday/ Sunday, will Update and Starr roll call soon.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 6 2018, 04:46 PM

Sorry for being MIA. I was in the middle of getting my old house ready to list for sale, then caught a nasty cold. I cant even talk right now so cant call Gabe to work out details. I hope to this weekend, though. Once I talk it over with Gabe, I will start a new thread to outline what the clinic is, roll call, etc.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 10 2018, 09:53 AM

OK, I have most of my voice back. Plan to call today and discuss with tentative date being May 26-27. Working on child care, will have to quit soul sucking day job as due to cold I now have no time off (I was quitting in May anyhow). Spoke with parts suppliers and they are good to go for bearings and such. I hear there is a back order of seal kits, I will not have enough, but I can make some up or amend some 911 kits if need be.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 13 2018, 09:09 AM

Been trying to call Gabe to go over the particulars of using his shop for this, always get machine and voice mail is full. Tdskip said he would also reach out. I am trying for the last weekend in May. All looks good from my end.

Posted by: Tdskip Apr 13 2018, 09:14 AM

Thanks Doc. I know Gabe has been busy with work and travel, I will see if I can reach him this weekend.

Posted by: john77 Apr 13 2018, 05:48 PM

I might be interested in heading down from LA for this, depending if the date works.

I have a 72 off a 911 that I got off Larmo that was rebuilt 10ish years ago that I'd like to open up and poke around inside to see what's going on in there.

Plus I have my old 901 that ate itself that might have some salvageable parts - the good Dr. would obviously know what might/might not be reusable.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 18 2018, 10:28 AM

Well, I have tried every day for the last week or so at different times of day and still nothing but a full answering machine. Sounds like this may need to be postponed unless we can find another place to host. I need to put time off in advance (or just plan to quit...hate this job) and got a lot going on over here. This is by no means a cancellation, this will happen as soon as we get a venue

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 18 2018, 10:31 AM

Want me to reach out to Sierra Madre Collection here in SoCal (Eagle Rock)? They have a new facility and it may be good PR for them.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 18 2018, 11:06 AM

Im open to options. If the people will go, and there are enough willing to pay for the class, then I can afford to do the clinic wherever.

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 18 2018, 11:33 AM

Let me know Aaron.......I can offer my RV lot.......with no rv and BBQ.

Surprised the OC guys are MIA.

Let me know of no one else speaks up. Think the wife is in St.Louis late May but I.ll check.

You could fly into ONT Doc.

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 18 2018, 11:56 AM

Will do. I just dropped Jorge and email.

-Aaron

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 18 2018, 12:20 PM

Basically, we need a 2'x2' area for each builder. Simple as that. Best to have some cover, but by no means does it have to be a large shop.

Posted by: Boomingbeetle Apr 18 2018, 02:04 PM

Wish I could help, but I can only afford a small apartment in OC and I keep two separate garages in SoCal for my car stuff!

Posted by: gothspeed Apr 18 2018, 06:33 PM

How many peeps and gear boxes are expected to show up so far?

Who is bringing replacement parts to sell?

Are we going to be working on the floor?

What about donuts and coffee?

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 18 2018, 06:45 PM

SMC is interested:

“Hi Aaron,

Thank you for your business and for your comments.

We are definitely interested in hosting the clinic and assisting the 914word.com community in any way we can. I'll have Jenna reach out to you tomorrow to work out the details.

I look forward meeting you soon.”

More to come soon.

-Aaron

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 19 2018, 08:17 AM

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 19 2018, 08:35 AM

Cool man. Looking forward to seeing whats going on. Also, they may be able to get some new parts for us at volume discount. If they can beat my suppliers, it will be a win win.

Posted by: Tdskip Apr 19 2018, 09:24 AM

Thank you Aaron

Posted by: PlantMan Apr 19 2018, 09:26 AM

I would be interested in coming as well.
Not sure about my trans but I am willing to take it apart for kicks.

I maybe able to get warehouse space from my client if we need a place to work.
Warehouse is located at the Great Park in Irvine......

Posted by: gothspeed Apr 19 2018, 09:33 AM

All this is looking good so far!

Posted by: Tdskip Apr 19 2018, 02:31 PM

That would also be a great location, might be closer for most

Posted by: forrestkhaag Apr 19 2018, 03:04 PM

I am currently on the Rt66 drive and have totally lost fourth gear. Real fun going uphill behind a semi at45 in third...... I am all in if space allows. I will have the box out and apart for inspection and diagnosis....

Forrest

Posted by: PlantMan Apr 19 2018, 03:06 PM

I will see if I can work it out with the owner.
Should know in the next week or so....

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 19 2018, 03:26 PM

Hang on guys... If I'm going to bother Sierra Madre Collection with this, I don't want to say, "Never mind... We found another spot." That would be completely unprofessional.

Now, if this is a "Plan B" kind of thing, sure, but this is a real vendor with a good location and facility. I've already spoken with Dr. Evil about this location so we need to know *NOW* if this location won't work for the group (as it works for him). I'm scheduled to talk details with them soon.

Posted by: PlantMan Apr 19 2018, 03:28 PM

Great Park option is a backup.

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 19 2018, 03:40 PM

Posted by: gothspeed Apr 19 2018, 05:14 PM

+1 ..... ! Especially if Sierra Madre Collection will have some parts to sell in addition to Dr Evil parts

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 20 2018, 09:20 AM

Thanks for the foot work, Aaron!

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 20 2018, 09:43 AM

We are pretty much good to go. I’ve had two discussions with them and we are just hashing out details like dates, food trucks, and booze. This should be fun for everyone!

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 20 2018, 12:29 PM

NICE! I didn't think about food trucks and had figured booze was a no-go. Nice. Getting pumped.

Posted by: PlantMan Apr 20 2018, 01:07 PM

Don't forget Dr. This is California! We can bring-in the best Snoop Dogg grade hashish too....and it is all legal!!!!

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 20 2018, 01:17 PM

LOL, things have changed since I moved away. I never liked weed, not my thing. Also, I would basically be useless at the clinic.

Group: Doc!

Me: Huh?

Group; Doc!!

Me: So hungry....drool

Posted by: mtndawg Apr 23 2018, 09:17 PM

Checking in on the status of further details...

Posted by: yeahmag Apr 23 2018, 09:42 PM

I’m meeting with SMC this week to iron out the details.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 24 2018, 09:00 AM

Yup, just waiting on the particulars to book my flight and request time off.

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 24 2018, 09:13 AM

Screw it, preemptively requested the time off. I need a vacation either way.

Posted by: Boomingbeetle Apr 24 2018, 11:27 AM

Wait, did I miss something? Has the date been set? I'd also like to make my time off request. More importantly, I'm also waiting to set the date of my honeymoon until this is firm. Don't tell my new wife...

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 24 2018, 11:48 AM

Ya, we have always been tentatively planning the last weekend in May, 26-27, and from 9a-5p both days. Unlike last times I did this, we will not be able to do multiple builds per person. I am used to working until 10p-12a on sat, so we will have to adjust

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 25 2018, 08:33 AM

Specific thread started for this event http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=328133