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Posted by: autopro Apr 10 2018, 08:22 AM

Hello guys, I am new here to the 914 World forum. I have really enjoyed the topics that are covered here and loved watching all of the build threads and restoration projects everyone has posted.

I just bought a 1972 914 from a friend a couple of weeks ago and I am trying to come up with a plan on how to get this car back on the road. It seems it has been off the road for more than 10 years and it has just sat since then. Luckily it had been kept from the elements so there is minimal surface rust and most body panels are straight.

The engine seems to be missing some components and the harness for the fuel injection is in pretty bad shape. Also the engine seems to be from a 1973 model year because the number on it is EB005705 sad.gif

Now since the engine isn't original for the car I do not know if it's worth to go on an all out restoration or to just do a repaint, fix all the mechanicals and get it on the road again, what do you guys think?

Oh and since I know how people hate threads without pictures here are some of the car for you.

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And this is after I got the engine home on my truck.

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Posted by: Philip W. Apr 10 2018, 10:29 AM

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I know the paint looks rough but it looks clean and straight, good door gaps - take the rocker covers off to see the longs better and take some pictures of the engine compartment and post - if those areas and under seats look good no structural rust I would clean it up, - if your budget it tight I would do a vinyl wrap until you can affor a full out paint job, or paint now - but if you are anxious to drive it , well then go thru the brake system first, check compression on motor, clean , drain etc and reinstall it and drive and enjoy for a while, - but it looks like your friend stopped after stripping it down some to do more work, maybe now if you have time, $$ and space, to do it now- but safety first- new gas lines and hoses, brakes flushed out and make sure new pads and no frozen up calipers, while motor is out it might be a good time to really check it out- do you know when motor ran last and what its condition is?

good luck, you know you will find the help you need here !

Posted by: 914forme Apr 10 2018, 10:47 AM

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Also look in the classifieds or post a WTB ad, as some people are swapping engines like crazy. screwy.gif You might be able to find a good running example to bolt right in, and get you on the road.

Most of the other questions you have to answer for yourself.

And 10 years off the road av-943.gif that was a short jack stand break. shades.gif




Since your new to this place you might notice at the bottom of my posts in my signature, I am poking fun at myself and my family.

I have an engine swap build that has gone off the deep end.

I have one of the oldest 914 restorations or rebuilds know to man.

To paraphrase McMark - A running 914 beats one on stands any day of the week.

Best wisdom ever, get yours running, get it on the road. These cars are pretty easy to upgrade in short time or fix items as you go. And driving these little things is what keeps all of us coming back here. I could never muster all the work I do on these cars if I did not like to driving.gif so much.

Posted by: carking1996 Apr 10 2018, 11:38 AM

Nice car! I love seeing restorations from cars in the shape yours is in.

Posted by: mbseto Apr 10 2018, 12:07 PM

Welcome! Original or not, I lean towards getting it on the road again.

Posted by: pt_700 Apr 10 2018, 12:09 PM

off topic; that's a bitchin' 620 you've got there. takes me back to my youth...

i used to scoff at low rider mini trucks until i loaded my motorcycle into my friend's...

welcome!

Posted by: autopro Apr 10 2018, 03:47 PM

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I know the paint looks rough but it looks clean and straight, good door gaps - take the rocker covers off to see the longs better and take some pictures of the engine compartment and post - if those areas and under seats look good no structural rust I would clean it up, - if your budget it tight I would do a vinyl wrap until you can affor a full out paint job, or paint now - but if you are anxious to drive it , well then go thru the brake system first, check compression on motor, clean , drain etc and reinstall it and drive and enjoy for a while, - but it looks like your friend stopped after stripping it down some to do more work, maybe now if you have time, $$ and space, to do it now- but safety first- new gas lines and hoses, brakes flushed out and make sure new pads and no frozen up calipers, while motor is out it might be a good time to really check it out- do you know when motor ran last and what its condition is?

good luck, you know you will find the help you need here !


Thanks a lot for the warm welcome and advice

The idea is to do a full mechanical rebuild along with paint and body. I'm going to slowly start striping it down and get all the systems corrected. I do not know when the engine last ran, it didn't run back when my friend first bought it. I do know it turns freely and I am contemplating building this motor up to a 1911 with 96mm pistons but I would need to find some 1.8 or 2.0 heads.


Here are some pictures of the engine compartment, I just didn't take any after I took the engine out since I was covered in grease jajaja

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Posted by: autopro Apr 10 2018, 03:56 PM

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And 10 years off the road av-943.gif that was a short jack stand break. shades.gif

Since your new to this place you might notice at the bottom of my posts in my signature, I am poking fun at myself and my family.

I have an engine swap build that has gone off the deep end.

I have one of the oldest 914 restorations or rebuilds know to man.

To paraphrase McMark - A running 914 beats one on stands any day of the week.

Best wisdom ever, get yours running, get it on the road. These cars are pretty easy to upgrade in short time or fix items as you go. And driving these little things is what keeps all of us coming back here. I could never muster all the work I do on these cars if I did not like to driving.gif so much.


lol-2.gif jajaja you really made me laugh. Well I wish I could just get this running quick but knowing me and how I like my cars that won't happen. This little 914 will be getting a good treatment. The day I took the engine out I also took the interior out and it already went to the upholstery shop.

I saw your thread the other day and really liked it, I'm going to be looking more into it because it has some very good information. aktion035.gif

Posted by: autopro Apr 10 2018, 04:10 PM

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Welcome! Original or not, I lean towards getting it on the road again.


Hopefully soon I can get it back on the road, and by original what I mean is not modifying it with a bigger engine and fender flares. My friend got a set of fiberglass fender flares that he gave me with the car and was wanting to do something like this, unless everyone thinks it's a really stupid idea screwy.gif

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QUOTE(pt_700 @ Apr 10 2018, 11:09 AM) *

off topic; that's a bitchin' 620 you've got there. takes me back to my youth...

i used to scoff at low rider mini trucks until i loaded my motorcycle into my friend's...

welcome!


LOL same here, but I love this little truck and I know exactly what you mean about loading motorcycles laugh.gif

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Posted by: krazykonrad Apr 11 2018, 10:30 AM

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Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Apr 11 2018, 12:54 PM

I bought a 1600 pickup in June of 73, then my first 914 in August. Both brand new! Great little truck. Wish I still had it.

Posted by: aggiezig Apr 11 2018, 03:59 PM

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Your project looks like a great starting point!

Posted by: Freezin 914 Apr 11 2018, 06:41 PM

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Posted by: autopro Apr 11 2018, 10:00 PM

Thanks guys really appreciate it bye1.gif

@ The Cabinetmaker, I think there are always some cars we regret getting rid of.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 11 2018, 10:16 PM

The engine compartment looks dirty, but doesn't look a rusty mess like most of these cars usually are.

Good luck with it.......and,

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Posted by: autopro Apr 12 2018, 08:33 AM

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The engine compartment looks dirty, but doesn't look a rusty mess like most of these cars usually are.

Good luck with it.......and,



Thanks for the welcome, I'll get some better pictures of the engine compartment next time. I do see some rust up where the battery tray is. I will end up replacing the tray.

Posted by: bbrock Apr 12 2018, 10:20 AM

welcome.png I'll be watching this thread because this car has particular allure for me. Like Larmo said, it's rare to see one of these that is crusty but not rusty. Very interesting... popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: autopro Apr 13 2018, 09:07 AM

bbrock, I'm glad you like it. I sure hope that I do not find too much h rust as I hate having to repair it. They paint on it is really crusty jajaja

Posted by: autopro Apr 30 2018, 08:35 AM

Got the engine semi torn apart and I also started cleaning up the transmission trying to get all the gunk off. Hopefully here next week I will be able to get most of the parts that I took off cleaned and sent out to get sand blasted.

I've decided to build my 1.7 motor to a 2056 and found a great local guy to get the 2.0 crankshaft and some other parts that I need for the rebuild. I also looking to get a copy of the Bug Me Type 4 Engine Rebuild video in case anyone has one for sale. biggrin.gif

I'll be building the engine for street and freeway use but will need to go with Dual 40 carbs, if anyone has any recommendations or tips for me I would love to hear them. Thanks guys smile.gif

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Posted by: krazykonrad Apr 30 2018, 04:21 PM

welcome.png and nice truck!

Konrad

Posted by: Dion Apr 30 2018, 06:17 PM

Hi Pedro. Looks as good as most of these projects on here if not even better. Does seem to be pretty straight from the pics you’ve shown. Lotsa luck! Keep
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Posted by: Shadowfax Apr 30 2018, 06:53 PM

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From another Pedro beerchug.gif

Posted by: Fatboy007 Apr 30 2018, 09:57 PM

Way ta go man....make it happen! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: autopro May 1 2018, 10:36 AM

@ Konrad, thanks bud biggrin.gif

@ Dion, yeah the body is pretty straight just one issue with a small accident on the left front headlight and a dented left door. At least those will be easy fixes. I'm planning on taking the whole car apart in about two weeks. Only then will I be able to know if there is any major rust repair.

@ Shadowfax, saludos tocayo! jajajaja beerchug.gif

@ Fatboy007, I will man, hopefully soon I can show you guys some progress smile.gif And we are neighbors jajaja sunglasses.gif

Thanks guys!

Posted by: ConeDodger May 1 2018, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(mbseto @ Apr 10 2018, 11:07 AM) *

Welcome! Original or not, I lean towards getting it on the road again.


Hopefully soon I can get it back on the road, and by original what I mean is not modifying it with a bigger engine and fender flares. My friend got a set of fiberglass fender flares that he gave me with the car and was wanting to do something like this, unless everyone thinks it's a really stupid idea screwy.gif

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QUOTE(pt_700 @ Apr 10 2018, 11:09 AM) *

off topic; that's a bitchin' 620 you've got there. takes me back to my youth...

i used to scoff at low rider mini trucks until i loaded my motorcycle into my friend's...

welcome!


LOL same here, but I love this little truck and I know exactly what you mean about loading motorcycles laugh.gif

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Wow! Fellow Datsun guy. PM me your address and I’ll get you that item we discussed. Least I can do for a datsun bro...


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Posted by: autopro May 11 2018, 10:50 AM

That is such a beautiful car Rob wub.gif I was looking for one of those but the 914 popped up and I got it instead. After I finish the 914 I'll look for another 240Z

In fact I brought the 914 home yesterday and had to put the Datsun 620 out in the street mad.gif Why can't my wife just give up her parking spot in the garage?

After I got it home I started tearing into it and removed the fuel tank along with other pieces in there. I was surprised that the fuel tank is in such good condition. Even inside it was really nice and clean.

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Posted by: autopro May 16 2018, 08:49 AM

Some pictures of the disassembly process. I built the stand from some pictures and plans I saw on another members thread and I must say it's pretty awesome. Working on the car like this has been a pleasure and by back isn't all sore biggrin.gif

Here with the help of some friends we got it up onto the stand.

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Someone had asked for pictures of the rockers, well here is the right side and it was in good condition so I am happy about that. The left side is mostly the same.

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And a couple more overall pictures

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Posted by: autopro May 22 2018, 01:54 PM

This past weekend I finished taking the car apart and then cleaned it up a bit. Everything came off fairly easily but I need to buy the socket to remove my front ball joints. Body work to start soon biggrin.gif

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