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Posted by: bandjoey Jul 14 2018, 07:10 PM

This is the HF big jackstand that's about 5 years old ans used many times until I bought the Quick Jack. Yesterday I picked this one up and for no reason pulled out the white suppory. Instead of staying up it crashed down. On a close look the ratchet pin had worked out preventing the ratchet wedge from engaging.

With the pin out it jams and you think it's holding but with a slight tap it collapses to the bottom crushing your head.




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Posted by: 914forme Jul 14 2018, 08:04 PM

/Yes that is why I took them all to the local crap yard, did not need anybody getting hurt by this style stand. I have two lifts now, and stands with pins in them, that you put in. Some of the best many I have ever spent in my garage.

Everyone needs to be safe and check their equipment from time to time.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jul 14 2018, 08:52 PM

Regardless who makes them NEVER use a jack stand that does NOT have a locking pin.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 15 2018, 12:33 AM

Buy something like these....
They're rated for 6000lb ea I think.
Should be sufficient to take care of any 914.

Posted by: amfab Jul 15 2018, 01:55 AM

Apparently, if you have a 914 in your garage, they will start growing out of the floor...

Posted by: 914forme Jul 15 2018, 05:14 AM

and exactly the ones I purchased great simple design. Still need to be inspected to make sure they are in working order. Takes just an extra few seconds to put the pin in.

Have fun in the garage and be safe.

Posted by: mb911 Jul 15 2018, 05:22 AM

These are ones I built as there os no real fail mode. Thought about actually marketing them..

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 15 2018, 05:56 AM

HF is very hit or miss for stuff. Some stuff is surprisingly decent, while other stuff is complete crap. We use a lot of disposable stuff from there like sanding discs, gloves, dust masks, etc, but not too many actual hard tools. Though I have heard very good things about the new Hercules rechargable series of tools.

Posted by: 914forme Jul 15 2018, 05:57 AM

Nice Ben I like them, I also like them for mockup situations.

As far as marketing them, liability would be my issue. You and I know they can't be broken with the average car. But someone will try to hold up this thing to change the tire.



And I am not talking about the Tahoe / Suburban

Posted by: BENBRO02 Jul 15 2018, 06:56 AM

Shouldn't we get a recall going? It could save a life or two!

Posted by: mb911 Jul 15 2018, 08:27 AM

That's exactly why I didn't make them for the retail market.

Posted by: bulitt Jul 15 2018, 07:20 PM

I worked for the Railroad for 35 years. Common practice to rerail minor derailments involves Wooden Wedges and Blocks. I have seen 420,000lb Locomotives entirely up in the air with wheels on Blocks.
I keep 6x6 inch Blocks about a foot long to double up under the car. IMHO it's cheap jackstand insurance.

Posted by: Pursang Jul 15 2018, 11:37 PM

We used wooden blocks to brace crashed and unstable car wrecks back in my fire department days too. Thankfully I never had to deal with any rail cars.

Posted by: brant Jul 16 2018, 10:07 AM

sorry for my LAZY post

but I've wanted to replace my crappy stands in the past and then never got around to it. This thread has motivated me. I will do it!


does anyone have a good, reasonably priced source for 4 "pinned" stands?
the pictured ones above look nice! where are they from?

thanks in advance
brant

Posted by: michael7810 Jul 16 2018, 10:34 AM

Those above look like Esco's and they are pricey around $55 each from many vendors (Amazon, Pelican, Home Depot, etc.)

Posted by: Mueller Jul 16 2018, 10:38 AM

Last time I went to the ER it cost me $100, so that might be a decent investment

Posted by: brant Jul 16 2018, 10:49 AM

cool...

I have to go to home depot tonight anyways... time to do a bit of window shopping.

Posted by: bbrock Jul 16 2018, 12:04 PM

Somebody posted about these a while back here and I now have a set of four. Double locking with ratchet AND beefy pins. I really like them and they are reasonably priced:


https://www.amazon.com/Strongway-Double-Locking-Jack-Stands-Capacity/dp/B00UAOKPTC/ref=sr_1_9?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1531763740&sr=1-9&keywords=jack+stands

Posted by: mb911 Jul 16 2018, 03:20 PM

I am thinking there would very little liability if I sold them as a kit and the end user welded them up? What do you think?

Posted by: worn Jul 16 2018, 07:12 PM

Maybe you could consider acme threads?

Posted by: larryM Jul 16 2018, 10:24 PM

HF sells a tall stand with acme threads - you could buy & cut 'em down to any size ya like

- or you guys who are real handy with tools can just cut off the top barrel & weld it to a short stand you already own

i use the tall ones under my maxjax lift - had to cut off maybe 4" from the bottom to fit

Posted by: plays with cars Jul 16 2018, 10:32 PM

So, this was an interesting idea. With a minimum amount of effort one could modify their existing ratchet jacket stands by drilling them and adding a pin.

Posted by: Edward Blume Jul 16 2018, 10:35 PM

Johnny Cochrane.

Posted by: mb911 Jul 17 2018, 11:55 AM

Here is the basic kit I was thinking.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 17 2018, 12:20 PM

sell them as super heavy duty plant stands. In the automotive section.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jul 17 2018, 12:36 PM

I've moved to all pin type jackstands. I'm getting rid of all my ratcheting stands.

Zach

Posted by: 914forme Jul 17 2018, 01:09 PM

Ben, I like them, precut plasma cutter stuff makes it fast.

Posted by: mb911 Jul 17 2018, 08:51 PM

Thanks..