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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ '74 2.0L in Ice Green @ RM Sotheby's Auction
Posted by: Cal Jul 31 2018, 12:02 PM
This should be an interesting auction to watch in late August. I've never seen a paint to sample in Ice Green on a 914....it looks pretty incredible. No reserve with estimates between $45K - $65K.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/MO18/Monterey/lots/r0156-1974-porsche-914-20/700362
This car was also discussed on 914world previously.....below is the thread. The car was for sale for $30K 2 years ago.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=293443&st=0
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Posted by: Chris H. Jul 31 2018, 12:38 PM
Yep that looks like Ross's car alright. It's a nice one for sure.
Posted by: rjames Jul 31 2018, 01:43 PM
My favorite color. Beautiful car.
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 31 2018, 01:45 PM
I would not cut corners doing a full restoration without cleaning the 2.0/tranny when it is out. If you going to go all out then the details make the difference. I bet they did not even know the look is not original from the factory. These bidders at Sotheby’s are very picky.
Looks clean though, nice combo.
-Ed
Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 31 2018, 02:59 PM
Most beautiful 914 color ever! I remember that car when Ross found it; didn't realize he sold it a couple of years ago. Special car.
Posted by: mgp4591 Jul 31 2018, 03:58 PM
Most beautiful 914 color ever! I remember that car when Ross found it; didn't realize he sold it a couple of years ago. Special car.
It was listed for interested parties before she was reassembled but I don't know if it ever sold.... maybe Ross has got some interest from the auction crowd!
Posted by: halmil Jul 31 2018, 04:07 PM
The post from 2 years ago states 78,000 miles. The auction piece states 74,000???
A very nice car and I hope they get their price
Posted by: worn Jul 31 2018, 06:10 PM
The post from 2 years ago states 78,000 miles. The auction piece states 74,000???
A very nice car and I hope they get their price
Very easy. Just ask Ferris to help you.
Posted by: Chris H. Jul 31 2018, 06:16 PM
I see what you did there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louFRE4vwHY
Posted by: mepstein Jul 31 2018, 06:22 PM
When I bought my red ‘71, the PO gave me an engine lid from an ice green parts car that he cut up. Original paint.
Posted by: rnellums Jul 31 2018, 09:34 PM
This should be an interesting auction to watch in late August. I've never seen a paint to sample in Ice Green on a 914....it looks pretty incredible. No reserve with estimates between $45K - $65K.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/MO18/Monterey/lots/r0156-1974-porsche-914-20/700362
This car was also discussed on 914world previously.....below is the thread. The car was for sale for $30K 2 years ago.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=293443&st=0
I was wondering when this would surface. My friend Michael Ferguson (Ferg on here) mentioned my car to one of the Sotheby guys and they ended up calling me to see if I would be interested in consigning it to the Monterey auction. I was just finishing putting it back together and am preparing to move down to Tennessee, so the sale of the car worked out well.
I put it up for sale a few years ago because I was dreading the reassembly (doing everything myself), but in the end I think I'm glad it didn't sell back then.
The auction is No Reserve, and I didn't give Sotheby's the estimate they arrived at (their analysis, not mine). I'm definitely interested in seeing how the auction goes, and plan to make the whole trip one of those bucket list experiences!
Yep that looks like Ross's car alright. It's a nice one for sure.
Thanks Chris, maybe now I'll be able to focus more on Apollo!
I would not cut corners doing a full restoration without cleaning the 2.0/tranny when it is out. If you going to go all out then the details make the difference. I bet they did not even know the look is not original from the factory. These bidders at Sotheby’s are very picky.
Looks clean though, nice combo.
-Ed
Ed not sure what you mean by cut corners... The engine and transmission were both fully cleaned when they were out (lots of elbow grease!). There is some discoloration from corrosion on the aluminum, but not any good way to achieve a perfect original finish on that and keep the original cases.
I'll admit I'm quite nervous about the car being auctioned (having never done anything close to a Sotheby's auction), but certainly excited!
Most beautiful 914 color ever! I remember that car when Ross found it; didn't realize he sold it a couple of years ago. Special car.
Didn't sell it, just toyed with the idea
. I do love the color though, and when I get around to restoring/sprucing up my flared 6, this color is going to he at the top of my list during the repaint. It really pops!It was listed for interested parties before she was reassembled but I don't know if it ever sold.... maybe Ross has got some interest from the auction crowd!
Correct!
The post from 2 years ago states 78,000 miles. The auction piece states 74,000???
A very nice car and I hope they get their price.
That old ad was written up pretty hastily while the car was in pieces, so I threw out a ballpark mileage from my memory. I think I used pretty loose terminology with regards to the mileage in the old ad.
The current mileage in the Sotheby's photos is correct.
When I bought my red ‘71, the PO gave me an engine lid from an ice green parts car that he cut up. Original paint.
You and I have discussed this before, I'm still of the opinion that the decklid you have a picture of is Marathon Blue, it just doesn't look like it's the same color as ice Green Metallic to me.
That said, it wouldn't surprise me if there were another 914 this color somewhere, but can say I haven't heard of one yet (and I've been looking for a while!).
Posted by: rnellums Jul 31 2018, 09:36 PM
I'd like to add that I regret the photo shoot was before I had dialed in the suspension or mounted the vintage sized tires... It was a bit too low in the front for the pictures!
Posted by: mepstein Jul 31 2018, 10:07 PM
This should be an interesting auction to watch in late August. I've never seen a paint to sample in Ice Green on a 914....it looks pretty incredible. No reserve with estimates between $45K - $65K.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/MO18/Monterey/lots/r0156-1974-porsche-914-20/700362
This car was also discussed on 914world previously.....below is the thread. The car was for sale for $30K 2 years ago.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=293443&st=0
I was wondering when this would surface. A friend mentioned my car to one of the Sotheby guys in passing and they ended up calling me to see if I would be interested in consigning it to the Monterey auction. I was just finishing putting it back together and am preparing to move down to Tennessee, so the sale of the car worked out well.
I put it up for sale a few years ago because I was dreading the reassembly (doing everything myself), but in the end I think I'm glad it didn't sell back then.
The auction is No Reserve, and I didn't give Sotheby's the estimate they arrived at (their analysis, not mine). I'm definitely interested in seeing how the auction goes, and plan to make the whole trip one of those bucket list experiences!
Yep that looks like Ross's car alright. It's a nice one for sure.
Thanks Chris, maybe now I'll be able to focus more on Apollo!
I would not cut corners doing a full restoration without cleaning the 2.0/tranny when it is out. If you going to go all out then the details make the difference. I bet they did not even know the look is not original from the factory. These bidders at Sotheby’s are very picky.
Looks clean though, nice combo.
-Ed
Ed not sure what you mean by cut corners... The engine and transmission were both fully cleaned when they were out (lots of elbow grease!). There is some discoloration from corrosion on the aluminum, but not any good way to achieve a perfect original finish on that and keep the original cases.
I'll admit I'm quite nervous about the car being auctioned (having never done anything close to a Sotheby's auction), but certainly excited!
Most beautiful 914 color ever! I remember that car when Ross found it; didn't realize he sold it a couple of years ago. Special car.
Didn't sell it, just toyed with the idea
. I do love the color though, and when I get around to restoring/sprucing up my flared 6, this color is going to he at the top of my list during the repaint. It really pops!It was listed for interested parties before she was reassembled but I don't know if it ever sold.... maybe Ross has got some interest from the auction crowd!
Correct!
The post from 2 years ago states 78,000 miles. The auction piece states 74,000???
A very nice car and I hope they get their price.
That old ad was written up pretty hastily while the car was in pieces, so I threw out a ballpark mileage from my memory. I think I used pretty loose terminology with regards to the mileage in the old ad.
The current mileage in the Sotheby's photos is correct.
When I bought my red ‘71, the PO gave me an engine lid from an ice green parts car that he cut up. Original paint.
You and I have discussed this before, I'm still of the opinion that the decklid you have a picture of is Marathon Blue, it just doesn't look like it's the same color as ice Green Metallic to me.
That said, it wouldn't surprise me if there were another 914 this color somewhere, but can say I haven't heard of one yet (and I've been looking for a while!).
My engine lid is ice green. Matches an ice green 911 at our shop perfectly. It was a common color for 911's, back in the day. We also had an ice green targa that was smashed and got parted out. Colors can turn out so weird on photos. I've taken pictures of my red car on a sunny day and it comes out orange. Unfortunately, all I have is the engine lid. The PO still had the doors but they were late and sort of rusty so I left them behind. Too bad the car got cut up. It would have been cool to see your cars brother.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Jul 31 2018, 10:20 PM
I'd like to add that I regret the photo shoot was before I had dialed in the suspension or mounted the vintage sized tires... It was a bit too low in the front for the pictures!
Great looking car, Ross! And too funny you mention the tires, as I was thinking about how the crowd this car is going to would swoon over XWXs or similar.
Actually reached out to the RM folks today due to this post—if you're interested in previewing the car at Rare Shades, we'd be thrilled to see it there. It's so very cool…
pete
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Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 31 2018, 10:22 PM
Is this the car that got crashed into after you started another car in gear?
The restoration looks good if it is.
Posted by: mepstein Jul 31 2018, 10:28 PM
Is this the car that got crashed into after you started another car in gear?
The restoration looks good if it is.
Didn't look like a bad hit. The metal surgeon made it look better than new.
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Posted by: mgp4591 Aug 1 2018, 03:19 AM
Mystery solved! ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
So now you're hanging out at Octeenerfest instead of RRC.... they're a good group of guys back there so you'll be in good company. Just try to talk them into 2 days of driving instead of one when you go! 
Posted by: Cal Aug 1 2018, 05:08 AM
I'd like to add that I regret the photo shoot was before I had dialed in the suspension or mounted the vintage sized tires... It was a bit too low in the front for the pictures!
Nice car Ross.....GLWS. What vintage sized tires did you end up putting on?
Posted by: rnellums Aug 1 2018, 08:08 AM
Great looking car, Ross! And too funny you mention the tires, as I was thinking about how the crowd this car is going to would swoon over XWXs or similar.
Actually reached out to the RM folks today due to this post—if you're interested in previewing the car at Rare Shades, we'd be thrilled to see it there. It's so very cool…
pete
Pete,
I would love to, I'm just not sure how everything with Sotheby's will work (if they'll let me preview it somewhere else). I'll talk to my contact for the auction and see if I can make it work and get back to you ASAP.
Is this the car that got crashed into after you started another car in gear?
The restoration looks good if it is.
Haha, I think I'll be roasted of the fire here for eternity for that mistake. Neutral safety interlock switches are now mandatory on all my cars!
Its the same one. I took it to the best metalworking place in Denver in my opinion, and I legitimately think its straighter now than it was before the incident.
Didn't look like a bad hit. The metal surgeon made it look better than new.
Jon and his crew at The Metal Surgeon are Masters of their craft. And the best part is now I get to go down there and drool over the other cars they are working on (like the 718 RSK they just finished restoring)
Mystery solved!
So now you're hanging out at Octeenerfest instead of RRC.... they're a good group of guys back there so you'll be in good company. Just try to talk them into 2 days of driving instead of one when you go!
Yes sir, although this year I'm going to a vintage driving event in Oregon (Classic Car Adventures Fall Classic) instead of Okteenerfest. Maybe next year...
Nice car Ross.....GLWS. What vintage sized tires did you end up putting on?
I went with the Vredestein Sprint Classics, but some period Michelins would have been really cool.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 22 2018, 07:12 AM
I flipped through all the pictures on the Sothby's site. That may be the prettiest /4 I've ever seen.
The green car at Amelia was a time capsule car, and I'm glad to have been able to go over it in person and get a ton of pictures.
But Ross's car is prettier.
Zach
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 22 2018, 06:15 PM
Ross,
Was not this your car back in September 2012 at the Cincinnati VW/Porsche Reunion?
I remember your car getting a lot of attention due to its color and condition. And, didn't you also receive an award as well? Nice car, if it were mine I'd have a real difficult time selling it. Regardless, congratulations on your automotive acumen 
Paul
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Posted by: rnellums Aug 22 2018, 07:00 PM
Paul that's the one, I think it was a top 25 award!
It's been a good car, no doubt the nicest 914 I'll ever own!
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Posted by: nickg Aug 22 2018, 08:08 PM
what headlights are in this car? they are odd looking?
Posted by: rnellums Aug 22 2018, 08:56 PM
what headlights are in this car? they are odd looking?
They are period Cibie CONCAVE H4s, very rare I'm told!
Posted by: rnellums Aug 22 2018, 08:57 PM
Kinda bizzare
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Posted by: Java2570 Aug 23 2018, 08:15 AM
Hey Ross...my brother actually sent me the ad for the Sotheby's auction a few weeks ago as he watches all the auctions for Porsches, etc. As soon as I saw the ad, I figured it had to be your car. I met you briefly at the Carmel Artomobilia the time you had your car there. You guys were still living up in Lafayette, IN. Loved the car then and it's very beautiful now. Good luck with the sale and we'll definitely be watching to see how it ends. Hope things are well for you out west.....Cheers - Jon
Posted by: Tdskip Aug 23 2018, 06:31 PM
Fantastic car - i'll keep my fingers crossed that the right people are in the room.
Posted by: Chris H. Aug 24 2018, 09:00 AM
I saw it at Garold's a while ago prior to the new paint. The color is even better in person and the contrasting interior makes it a real knockout. Bet it'll go for a lot. If someone wants that color they can't say "I'll wait for the next one".
Posted by: Cal Aug 25 2018, 11:18 PM
Sold for $55K plus buyers commission....
Posted by: Ferg Aug 25 2018, 11:19 PM
Posted by: A&P Mech Aug 26 2018, 06:13 AM
Wow! 55k! That is awesome. Congratulations Ross.
Posted by: Dion Aug 26 2018, 06:48 AM
Such a beautiful car. Congrats!
Posted by: brant Aug 26 2018, 07:09 AM
Congrats.
That is awesome!
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