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Posted by: ruddyboys Jun 14 2005, 06:23 AM

Trying to set the timing. I cant get the car to run smooth. I watch the timing mark dancing around. it moves back and forth about 3/4 inch. Also I my idle speed is F*&%ed up. I have the idle speed set to about 1800rpm, when I move the car the idle speed goes way way up (throtle cable not stuck). If I turn the car off and then start again the idle speed goes to around 1800.

Posted by: xsboost90 Jun 14 2005, 06:45 AM

according to the manual, the timing should be set while running the motor at 3500rpm at 27degrees, there is a mark on the flywheel that will line up w/ the notch in the inspection hole.

Posted by: davep Jun 14 2005, 07:34 AM

Idle should be less than 1000.
Timing, the vacuum lines to the distributor are disconnected.
Sounds like your distributor may be worn out or needs servicing.
Are you sure the throttle cable is not interfering with the clutch cable up near the pedals. It is easy to get one wrapped around the other. If you depress the clutch and release does the RPMs change?

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 14 2005, 07:44 AM

typical worn out dizzy shaft symptoms. Get bushing pressed in or source a rebuilt.
You will be amazed how it runs once you get that fixed.

Posted by: solex Jun 14 2005, 07:57 AM

QUOTE (xsboost90 @ Jun 14 2005, 04:45 AM)
according to the manual, the timing should be set while running the motor at 3500rpm at 27degrees, there is a mark on the flywheel that will line up w/ the notch in the inspection hole.

Just a quick update the timing should be set to 27 BTDC at 3500. I recently tried this but cannot find the mark on the fan wheel...

Posted by: Rockaria Jun 14 2005, 08:09 AM

If you don't have a mark at 27 degrees is easy to find the area that represents 27. It just to the right of a large metal part and before the first fin in the area. The image below has references to all marks and such for any type 4 fan not just the 1.8.

user posted image

Just zip the trottle a few times and it will become clear! Its easy to count the fins and know where its at.

Posted by: joeav8tor Jun 14 2005, 10:20 AM

on the 2.0 the 27 degree BTDC is a red mark, rpm should be at 3500 when setting it.
Joe

Posted by: ! Jun 14 2005, 10:22 AM

Don't discount vacuum leaks...

Posted by: jfort Jun 14 2005, 12:17 PM

that is a great pic/drawing, Rocharia! I'm impressed! Can you do one like that for a six?

Posted by: Rockaria Jun 14 2005, 02:11 PM

QUOTE (jfort @ Jun 14 2005, 12:17 PM)
that is a great pic/drawing, Rocharia! I'm impressed! Can you do one like that for a six?

I have no idea what a six looks like. You sketch it out, send me the simple drawing, and I can do it.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Jun 14 2005, 02:42 PM

QUOTE (jfort @ Jun 14 2005, 02:17 PM)
...Can you do one like that for a six?

it's not needed for a /6 - the timing marks are on the flywheel...

Posted by: Joe Ricard Jun 14 2005, 03:11 PM

Lemmeno if you need a dizzy. I have a 1.7L dual vacuum unit. No I don't know if it will work for a 1.8L. But it will work for a 2.0L with D-jet.