Well, I guess an "I told you so" is in order here, at minimum.
Several months ago, I called out Stromberg. I tried to let you all see what was up in advance. I was almost banned, my employer was almost banned, and I was chastised for being publicly immature and overly nasty without evidence.
Well, I stayed away, and kept my mouth shut, out of respect for you guys and your wishes. I'm a man, and a decent man at that. But now...
I guess there's enough evidence now though huh I wonder where all the Stromberg supporters are in hiding with his stupid ass now.
He sold an engine now to a guy at the WCC. Why couldn't he be there?!!? Everybody knows why this little bitch wasn't at the WCC. You knew I was gonna be there didn't you Steve.
Were you afraid that you might have to TRY and make good on your threat to come and kick my ass?!!?
Pardon me sirs, but when I was telling everybody this guy is a dishonest dirtbag, I was threatened with being banned, and told I was being immature.
WELL I GUESS I TOLD YOU SO JUST DOESN'T DO THIS JUSTICE!!!
So Steve, isn't Tom Whistler the guy at import motor, the motor meister of the type 4 world?!?! No wonder you're selling engines so cheap, they're put together as halfass as your business plan.
And whenever you're ready to make good on your threat, I'm waiting. And like I told you in the emails we exchanged, I'm not driving out to Bum Fucked Egypt to meet you at some girly ass boxing club?!!?
You said quote, "I'm gonna come teach you a lesson". That implies your coming here, and you have yet to make good on it. You know where to find me... Eventually, when you have a full sack, you will come out to an event, and I will run into you out in public. And no matter what type of humiliating, unfair things I have to say about you or your family or business or whatever, I will force your hand. And then we'll see what cards you're holding...pussy!!!
hmm, who could it be?!
take your seats everyone, the show's starting
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yes, but he should have inserted the proper smilie when referring to
isn't that why we went thru the trouble of having it added to the list of smilies?
We're awaiting a reply.................Hope the admins miss this one.
Stromberg won't step up and do the right thing. Stromberg will not answer his critics.
Stromberg will not deal with his customers in an honorable way.
What else do you need to know?
QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Jun 15 2005, 01:16 PM) |
hmm, who could it be?! :idea: :owned: |
I was thinking it was this http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=newpost&threadid=218149
but I think you could be right too
QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Jun 15 2005, 01:35 PM) |
I was thinking it was this http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=newpost&threadid=218149 but I think you could be right too :lol2: |
maybe is in aruba?
tat2 ,
i think you and i are the only children on this forum.
everyone else seems mature enough to stay away form this one
hey, at least it's better than hearing people rip on the admin formerly known as.....................
It took a little while to catch on to his ways, that is why he doesn't work here.
QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Jun 15 2005, 05:32 PM) |
tat2 , i think you and i are the only children on this forum. everyone else seems mature enough to stay away form this one hey, at least it's better than hearing people rip on the admin formerly known as..................... |
NEXT!!! so much for maturity. the line in lancaster would have been a long one.
k
"And the rocket's red glare....the bombs bursting in air.....gave proof thru the............"
QUOTE (calipornya @ Jun 15 2005, 02:06 PM) |
I tried to let you all see what was up in advance. I was almost banned, my employer was almost banned |
Can we be atleast halfassed civil and men in this forum.......
Okay, line up for a smackdown on Steve S....
Now that we have that over, move on boys.
thank you andy. i believe you nicely summed up the feeling of much of the community.
Damn! I really hate to agree with Andy about anything.
I just wanted to get that off my chest...
So, anyone wanna buy a set of new 100mm JE machine in P/C's? I'll give you a deal you can't believe!!!
Oh yeah, and I want fuck you over like
Anyone who is looking for anyone can find anyone if they want to find anyone
Me, I don't let ANYONE steal from me .
Great post Andy.
Miss Mari
P.S.
Never, and I mean never commit the error of threatening someone.
Miss Mari
QUOTE (otto @ Jun 15 2005, 06:39 PM) |
It took a little while to catch on to his ways, that is why he doesn't work here. |
i really dont understand why steve never responded....
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jun 15 2005, 09:03 PM) |
i really dont understand why steve never responded.... |
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jun 15 2005, 08:03 PM) |
i really dont understand why steve never responded.... |
Very interesting....
Almost as interesting as what a certain person spotted in someone's back yard a few weeks ago being COPIED!
You guys wonder why the 914 DTM hasn't been released yet??? You can thank your buddy for it... It's just one more thing he has done to hurt everyone in the Type 4 engine world.
Blitzkrieg is in the works, I hope that he is better at representing himself in front of a Judge than he is at representing himself in this forum and to the honest public.
Someone has a lot of explaining to do.
I spent 14 hours yesterday pruning posts all over the net removing technical data to keep it from being further stolen, copied and pasted- You can thank this person for this as well, from now on it will have to be bought from my Type 4 store-
I have lost too many nights sleep over this and I'll bet Joe Locicero, the designer of the DTM is rolling in his grave on a nightly basis just thinking of his 12 year project being copied.
I don't think he'll be as lucky as Michael Jackson was.
I laugh everytime I think about the case going to court here in my county.... That will probably be very entertaining, anyone want to come sit in on the case???
QUOTE (otto @ Jun 15 2005, 02:39 PM) |
It took a little while to catch on to his ways, that is why he doesn't work here. |
Hi Jake!
Nice to see you back!
Nanette is ordering some 98MM from you this week, the cheap ones!
What's a DTM?
You must mean 96mm...GREAT!
The DTM is my cooling system- Read about it here at www.massivetype4.com thats a site dedicated just to the system.
jake, if i got the info and when it is, i think it would be intresting to sit in on the case...
I'll keep everyone up to date and let you know when and where things will be. I would think it would be no problem to come listen to the proceedings, it would probably be as entertaining to the on lookers as a comedy show.
Okay, back to work for me I am done pruning my posts here so the computer goes off again for another 4-5 weeks... See ya'll then!
Hey Jake, first order of business is to add a boilerplate "information contained here copyrighted 06/2005 by [your company name here]" to your sig in each forum, so every post is copyrighted. Second is to trademark your names, like "DTM" and and the rest. You don't neet to pay and register them with the govt, just put the TM symbol after it every time you use it. Neither gives perfect protection, but both are real simple to do and will give additional leverage if you ever end up in court. It's just plain good business practice. In fact those two things by themselves could well prompt somebody's lawyer to advise them that it would be better to seek a settlement than to try to defend themselves against you in court.
hey jake,
could you get me a priceon that mallory for a 75 2.0 , thanks.
Paul,
I was actualy going to ask you if you still had a NOS DTM that I could borrow from Joe himself... I thought you may have one and I need it for a point of reference.
I have been working on the TM and registration for a while, but I have so many priorities with getting the job done here, unfortunately I can't do it all.
The fact is that if we did not have immoral, dis-honest worthless bastards among us that I would not need to utilize my time to go through the hassles associated with all the preventive measures. This experience has proven that these people exist and the measures are needed so they will be taken, but at a cost to the customer.
I am trying my hardest to remove one parasitic thief from our community...
Shock and Awe is a good term for how hard the bombs will drop when the bombardier decides to Git'R done.... I'm a really nice guy till someone pushes my buttons- He has.
I highly recommend that the person in question here contact me to settle this thing before D- Day arrives- At this point we can still negotiate amongst ourselves but that offer is only open till close of business on June 21st.
Give up the mold that "Arnold" made for you or get ready for a trip to the east coast. Perhaps those (914 club member- you know who you are) that was associated with the alledged in trying to source my latest version of the shroud for him to copy the changes from should coax him to make this contact because you are associated as well and I will do my best to include you in any proceedings- Did you really think I was that dumb?
QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jun 16 2005, 09:23 AM) |
Perhaps those (914 club member- you know who you are) that was associated with the alledged in trying to source my latest version of the shroud for him to copy the changes from should coax him to make this contact because you are associated as well and I will do my best to include you in any proceedings- Did you really think I was that dumb? |
Jake hurry up and put this Butthole to rest so I can get a DTM for the 914.CYA
Ahhh... Everlasting Gobstoppers...
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I think Andy's right but... (there's that but)
I do think it's OK for Jason to get it off his chest. I seem to remember that first TYPE4 post and people seemed to be jumping on him and coming to 's defense in droves. And that's cool too... kinda like a Jury needing hard facts before they convict.
So... all done. Jason got his in there. Let's just make sure doesn't exist in our little community. His existence is more like that of a stripper. Extract the money from the wallet in any way possible.
Going back to my "Giant" Gobstopper now.
Yeah, but what bothers me, and Jake is being a Southern Gentleman about it, but you see I have been corrupted - one by being a lawyer, and two - by having to live in Massachusetts with all the Massholes - so I'll go right ahead and say it - has his friends and allies right here in our little community, guys who have actively participated in his dirty little schemes and who pretend to be innocent and "good" members of the 914 community (and you know who you are) and now they are all laying low and not coming to his aid and behind the scenes they are still working with him. Kinda sucks.
what he(Eric Shea) said!
sorry, William's post snuck in while I was replying..
Until I get the mold in my hands that "Arnold" made for the alledged I will not stop or slow down with the infiltration into the corruptness.
Those that have assisted this person better tell me all they know or I will have no regret when the paper work is filled out.
Speak up, or go down with him.
don't ever piss off a Marine.
Who is Arnold?? If this is a member here and is dishonest enough to steal from you, I want to know who it is as I have a lot of members come to my house and want to know who I need to watch.
I haven't been following it but it sounds like some little Butt-Pirate made a mold of jakes DTM
Jake: damn this is getting interesting!!! Round up the usual suspects. Scott Kline is gonna help us track down Arnold. Thanks Scott - I'm sure anyone involved in a civil conspiracy to infringe on Raby's trade secrets and products, illegally produce moulds to produce bogus and deceptive products to be sold as "NOS" will understand the world of hurt headed their way.
William, I suppose a statement from Mr. Kline would be in order as to his knowledge of the alledged and his intents. I would say that this person would be a good witness for my side of the case.
I want that mold, I want Arnold and I want to be able to live in peace again without having to hire detectives and take trips to California to investigate things.
A GPS, digital camera and a customer that owns a Helicopter are really nice things to have when dealing with a person this shady.
Too many people have seen the shroud that was "in work" including another one of the alledged persons customers that went south on him.... That person is willing to testify to what they observed in someone's backyard AFTER a cease and desist demand letter was sent to the alledged in the normal manner.
If anyone has any knowledge of this activity, find me before I find you and issue the paperwork.
I think we just screwed the pooch as far as becoming a Porsche AG-recognized club.
Jake: those involved had either get on one side or the other. If Mr. Kline is offering his assistance to stopping the illegal infringement and disparagement of your protected work product and good name, I welcome his complete cooperation. We know those involved, the illegal operation to have Arnold produce the mould and the efforts to sell the product as NOS - all of this has been documented and eye witnesses, electronic documents, web pages, e-mails, etc. all leave a trail directly back to the players. Time to get right with God or face Judgment Day.
QUOTE (skline @ Jun 16 2005, 09:38 AM) |
Who is Arnold?? If this is a member here and is dishonest enough to steal from you, I want to know who it is as I have a lot of members come to my house and want to know who I need to watch. |
QUOTE (larryp @ Jun 16 2005, 01:56 PM) |
I think we just screwed the pooch.... |
QUOTE |
We know those involved, the illegal operation to have Arnold produce the mould and the efforts to sell the product as NOS - all of this has been documented and eye witnesses, electronic documents, web pages, e-mails, etc. all leave a trail directly back to the players. Time to get right with God or face Judgment Day. |
lol
Eric - being a lawyer sometimes requires you to be "mean." Mean as in, I'm not going to let anyone rip off the hard work of my client and pass it off as theirs and try to get away with it. By the way, I the pedal assembly. As I've said before, I have dealt with many vendors here (Brad, HPH, Bowlsby, Racer Chris, etc.) and I have never had a bad experience. I have shown the pedal assembly to lots of local Porsche guys and they just simply can not believe it. YOU, YOU ARE GOOD!
I really hate to have to waste forum space for posts like these, so guys please excuse my barging into the garage with these issues...
I'll make it all up to you sometime soon when the shroud can come out without fear of being copied and maybe I'll make a 914 club discount for the first few that I do!
.. do you ship to China?
M
QUOTE (calipornya @ Jun 15 2005, 01:06 PM) |
Well, I guess an "I told you so" is in order here, at minimum. Several months ago, I called out Stromberg. I tried to let you all see what was up in advance. I was almost banned, my employer was almost banned, and I was chastised for being publicly immature and overly nasty without evidence. Well, I stayed away, and kept my mouth shut, out of respect for you guys and your wishes. I'm a man, and a decent man at that. But now... I guess there's enough evidence now though huh I wonder where all the Stromberg supporters are in hiding with his stupid ass now. He sold an engine now to a guy at the WCC. Why couldn't he be there?!!? Everybody knows why this little bitch wasn't at the WCC. You knew I was gonna be there didn't you Steve. Were you afraid that you might have to TRY and make good on your threat to come and kick my ass?!!? Pardon me sirs, but when I was telling everybody this guy is a dishonest dirtbag, I was threatened with being banned, and told I was being immature. WELL I GUESS I TOLD YOU SO JUST DOESN'T DO THIS JUSTICE!!! So Steve, isn't Tom Whistler the guy at import motor, the motor meister of the type 4 world?!?! No wonder you're selling engines so cheap, they're put together as halfass as your business plan. And whenever you're ready to make good on your threat, I'm waiting. And like I told you in the emails we exchanged, I'm not driving out to Bum Fucked Egypt to meet you at some girly ass boxing club?!!? You said quote, "I'm gonna come teach you a lesson". That implies your coming here, and you have yet to make good on it. You know where to find me... Eventually, when you have a full sack, you will come out to an event, and I will run into you out in public. And no matter what type of humiliating, unfair things I have to say about you or your family or business or whatever, I will force your hand. And then we'll see what cards you're holding...pussy!!! |
Two things who the F___K is Arnold ? and quit spelling it mould It's MOLD
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiick'em William
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.. do you ship to China? |
Holy Shit!
Are they cheap?
M
funky...
Yeah, Does anyone know someone by the name of Arnold in SOCAL that works with fiberglass possibly????
I sure would love to find him.... We will.
Hounds are out!
Hey Jake!
Have you checked with Carbon Joe? His stuff is here:
http://www.carbonjoe.net/dashparts.htm
He makes nice carbon fiber stuff, he might be able to help out with what you are working on....
As far as SS is concerned, go get him. I doubt S Kline will help out, he's dickheads pal.
I would love to see an engine build off! Stromberg will probably try to build one of his much raved over "oxyboxer" bullshit motors. Then we can all go to his crap.
Now it's really getting stupid.............
QUOTE (chibone @ Jun 16 2005, 03:11 PM) |
As far as SS is concerned, go get him. I doubt S Kline will help out, he's dickheads pal. |
Carbon Joe is a buddy of mine from years back... He makes my Carbon Fiber shroud for me with MY molds.
So who is the fucking dickhead know it all that hides behind chibone?
Jake,
If you have proof that people on this club are involved in some type of "theft" regarding your products then you need to persue it in a court of law. NOT on this board.
dude nobody is going to fess up. Either you send a chopper over to his house and jump onto his roof and grab your molds or you take this guy to court. Seems to me like you're wasting your time trying to get people to talk on this board.
With that being said, I absoluely love your stuff.....someday man...i'll have a raby /4
Well, let me get this out in the open, I am not now or was I ever involved in the conspiracy to copy any of Jake's products. I am not going to take sides on this just as I didnt take them on Kevin's engine. It is not in my better interest to be involved in the drama going on lately. If fact, if it keeps up, I will most likely take a leave from here. Jake has everything under control. Please do not use my name or implicate me in this or any other drama on the forum. Just because I know everyone, doesnt mean I support the same beliefs or practices. I am here to help other 914 owners with their cars and share a passion we all have for these cars.
NO DRAMA!!!
QUOTE (SLITS @ Jun 16 2005, 01:21 PM) |
So who is the fucking dickhead know it all that hides behind chibone? |
who the hell are you to join and bitch scott out? who's the "dickhead" here now?
Things are under control and I have talked to Skline and so has one of my lawyers. I think that Scott is a good guy in the saga- Nuff said.
At this point these things are still very open as to what will occur next, but someone knows who Arnold is, someone knows that there are counterfeit DTMs being produced or have already been produced and I am using every tool possible to stop it. Unfortunately this person is on this board.
If any one of you had the same thing happen to you- You would also do everything you could to keep it from going to court- I don't have time for that and consider it a last resort but its all in the works as we speak.
So far the Private investigators and 3 different lawyers hasn't been cheap and it may take a day in court to make it all worth while and stop the problem at the source.
I do not want to add drama here either I just want to get to the bottom of something that has been hounding me for weeks, has cost me time and has kept a new product from being released.
With that being said, I will keep my mouth shut here and go back to trying to find Arnold and the molds to my product.
QUOTE (bd1308 @ Jun 16 2005, 01:50 PM) |
who the hell are you to join and bitch scott out? who's the "dickhead" here now? |
i sit and laugh......whatever man. you control your destiny.
C'mon Britt? you know better than to feed the trolls
QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jun 16 2005, 01:51 PM) |
At this point these things are still very open as to what will occur next, but someone knows who Arnold is, someone knows that there are counterfeit DTMs being produced or have already been produced and I am using every tool possible to stop it. Unfortunately this person is on this board. With that being said, I will keep my mouth shut here and go back to trying to find Arnold and the molds to my product. |
yeah yeah.... no feeding the trolls. i see the sign now
QUOTE (chibone @ Jun 16 2005, 02:56 PM) |
Uh, that would be you. |
Sir Andy - you gotta keep an eye on this place.
QUOTE (redshift @ Jun 16 2005, 02:04 PM) |
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jun 16 2005, 05:04 PM) | ||
ok, enough of this. go back to your own BBS, "John" ... Andy |
ONION!!!
k
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QUOTE (chibone @ Jun 16 2005, 02:11 PM) |
As far as SS is concerned, go get him. I doubt S Kline will help out, he's dickheads pal. |
Thats sure does look like a Vidalia onion, from right here in good ole Georgia... Damn tasty!
Sometimes people can be guilty by association- almost like hanging out with the wrong crowd in high school.
Thats why it's always best to be an asshole, have two friends at max and be as mean as possible at all times.. Friends are good for two things, drinking your beer and screwing your wife when they get the chance..
Being a true asshole takes practice!
Vidalifornia brand.
They started growing them there now, cheap, and they taste like
M
That "was" a Vadalia once upon a time in it's genetic lifecycle.
The one pictured is a Chinese knock-off. $1.78 a bushell right now. Better known as a Shitakadalia
walla walla sweet. burger perfect. everything the vadalia would like to be.
k
QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jun 16 2005, 03:04 PM) | ||
ok, enough of this. go back to your own BBS, "John" ... Andy |
hey Miles is that your picture in the last post in the sandbox?
QUOTE (spunone @ Jun 16 2005, 04:18 PM) |
quit spelling it mould It's MOLD |
QUOTE (914fire @ Jun 16 2005, 07:03 PM) |
hey Miles is that your picture in the last post in the sandbox? |
QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jun 16 2005, 04:05 PM) | ||
'tis an alternate spelling for applications just like this... |
Can't we all just get along?
Like the old days?
JT
There go those damn Euro's...trying to make themselves think they are better 'cause they add a "u" to mold. Pinky lifter sliky undie crowd!
Jolly Gut! I'll run by Ye Olde Shoppe on my way back to the cribbe, and get some schicken, and a loaffe of breade.
M
or "earth that is the substance of the human body, be merciful great Duke to men of mold"
QUOTE (street legal go-kart @ Jun 15 2005, 07:40 PM) |
P.S. Never, and I mean never commit the error of threatening someone. Miss Mari |
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Jun 16 2005, 09:14 AM) |
I think Andy's right but... (there's that but) I do think it's OK for Jason to get it off his chest. I seem to remember that first TYPE4 post and people seemed to be jumping on him and coming to 's defense in droves. And that's cool too... kinda like a Jury needing hard facts before they convict. So... all done. Jason got his in there. Let's just make sure doesn't exist in our little community. His existence is more like that of a stripper. Extract the money from the wallet in any way possible. Going back to my "Giant" Gobstopper now. |
QUOTE (calipornya @ Jun 19 2005, 08:02 PM) |
Thanks for understanding! I'm doing my part to get rid of , somewhere I heard if you light a match, at least the smell will go away... |
matches work best. if you use air freshners, you just end up with a rosy fart smell.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!
This thread is getting just a bit out of hand. I think that we need to shut this down so everyone can cool off.
If you have any problem with it, you can blame me.
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