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Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 06:56 AM
my two year experiment with building a LS3 73 Camaro is over! Couldn't get a shop to finish some things (and it wouldn't fit in my Garage).
I'm a Driver 1st & foremost, so it has been a grind to see a project going nowhere, so my latest pickup is
with LS6 Motor! 
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 07:00 AM
the Camaro had just become a Bank Account.
GoodBye Camaro
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 07:03 AM
the Porsche 951 with LS is very well sorted, though it will get some TC touches!
I hate the Rear Center Reflector ( why do people put these on 944s & 914s? 
also want to put Side Mouldings on. a 944 is one of the very few cars that I think looks better with them
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 07:06 AM
another thing about selling the Camaro, I sold it as a Roller, so I kept the LS3! I can make a duplicate of this 951 with side by side comparisons????
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 07:10 AM
Good to see Paul (URY914) on the way back from Columbia SC yesterday! Paul used to be Neighbor, Great Friend & re-known 914 Transporter, but moved to Jacksonville a couple years back.
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 07:13 AM
it's been a few years since I've had a 944 based car!
Posted by: mepstein Sep 9 2018, 07:38 AM
I think the 944 is the best base for an LS conversion.
Posted by: Tom_T Sep 9 2018, 09:46 AM
it's been a few years since I've had a 944 based car!
Is that your "Waddyalookinat!?" Look TC!?
That 944/LS6 would be an interesting combo, assuming that the suspension is tweaked get the extra power to the asphalt, & to maintain the legendary 924/944/968 handling.
Cheers!
Tom
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Posted by: Andyrew Sep 9 2018, 10:17 AM
Very nice!!!! Welcome to one of my favorite street cars!!
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 10:20 AM
The LS Motors are very light and overall no more than the 4 cyl lump & accessories. The 951 Real Diff/Trans was rebuilt last year to the tune of $3500. It has 968 Sport Suspension pieces, Swaybars & Koni Sport Yellows
Posted by: FourBlades Sep 9 2018, 10:21 AM
That is a great looking car, TC! 
Without the maintenance hassles of the 944 4 banger.
I love the body style but maintenance issues always put me off these cars.
John
Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2018, 10:27 AM
Exactly John, regular 944 & Turbos especially Turbos are a maintenance nightmare. This solves that with a LOT More HP!
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 9 2018, 10:48 AM
I loved your Camaro project but that LS motor in the 951 will be crazy.
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 9 2018, 01:02 PM
This thread is worthless without smoking tires.
Posted by: URY914 Sep 9 2018, 03:00 PM
TC,
Good to see you and thanks for the kind words.
Always good to keep in touch with 914 guys. You never know when you may need a ride home.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 9 2018, 03:05 PM
This thread is worthless without smoking tires.
Squire Tomasie has one and video...facebook
Posted by: VaccaRabite Sep 9 2018, 07:26 PM
That is a car I want to drive.
I've wanted to do this to a 944 ever since I heard about the conversions a few years ago (though the conversion I saw had a weird bubble hood thing for the 350 small block and carb. Yuck!)
Its like Subaru engines in a 914 - it just WORKS.
Zach
Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 9 2018, 07:39 PM
Are you going to sell it and buy it back a couple dozen times? 
--DD
Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 9 2018, 07:55 PM
That Camaro was bitchin and the mods you were doing looked tasty.
My question is: How do you get that LS motor through smog testing, or am I thinking with my stupid California smog nazi brain?
Posted by: jkb944t Sep 10 2018, 04:24 AM
These conversions are awesome! The one problem I have seen though is the power brake system modification is hard to solve. How did they do yours?
Jeff B
Posted by: carr914 Sep 10 2018, 04:37 AM
That Camaro was bitchin and the mods you were doing looked tasty.
My question is: How do you get that LS motor through smog testing, or am I thinking with my stupid California smog nazi brain?
In Florida there are No Inspections, No Smog Checks
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Sep 10 2018, 05:32 AM
That Camaro was bitchin and the mods you were doing looked tasty.
My question is: How do you get that LS motor through smog testing, or am I thinking with my stupid California smog nazi brain?
In Florida there are No Inspections, No Smog Checks
Street legal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPX5te5q4U
Plenty of freedom and bald eagles here.
Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 10 2018, 09:22 AM
That was a fun video!!!
Here in Kalifornia, you have to "know" someone (wink, wink) to get certain cars through DMV.
The old cars are exempt (pre '76) but newer cars are tricky.
God Bless Freedom!!!!
Posted by: JmuRiz Sep 10 2018, 09:56 AM
Very cool!
I agree, toss that reflector in the trash bin and take the turbo badge off (unless you plan to put a turbo on that LS 
Posted by: Ferg Sep 10 2018, 11:26 AM
Nice NARP 
Posted by: carr914 Sep 12 2018, 08:20 PM
Hopefully it survives Hurricane Florence as it is still in South Carolina!
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 19 2018, 09:44 PM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
Posted by: JRust Sep 19 2018, 10:49 PM
Hell yeah TC! I'd drive that for sure. Love it
Posted by: carr914 Sep 20 2018, 04:35 AM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
Don't know the Offsets, but the Tire Sizes are front 225/45 17, rear 255/40 17. I may sell these wheels/new tires after the car gets here
Posted by: Racer Sep 20 2018, 05:45 AM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
944 Turbos came with "early" offset wheels (1986) and late offset wheels (87-89).
The "twist" wheels came in 7/8.5 widths on the boxster and 7/9 on the 996. These are late offset wheels. Typical late offset are ET50-60mm.. Early offsets are ET10-23.
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 20 2018, 06:34 AM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
944 Turbos came with "early" offset wheels (1986) and late offset wheels (87-89).
The "twist" wheels came in 7/8.5 widths on the boxster and 7/9 on the 996. These are late offset wheels. Typical late offset are ET50-60mm.. Early offsets are ET10-23.
Great information, thanks.
Just trying to wrap my head around this. I have an ‘86 so early offset. Since the offset is the spacing on the inside of the rim that would mean if I want to use later wheels I’d need spaces (roughly an inch in this case) and possibly longer studs? I’m I thinking that through correctly?
Posted by: JmuRiz Sep 20 2018, 07:36 AM
I'm guessing it survived the storm?
Hope so...
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 20 2018, 08:04 AM
Mine. You can see why I asked the wheel question.
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Posted by: carr914 Sep 20 2018, 08:51 AM
I'm guessing it survived the storm?
Hope so...
Yes, it did.
It needs a new windshield ( South Carolina is like Florida, Windshields are Zero Ductable, no insurance issues) so we are waiting for Porsche to source the correct windshield ( late 944s are different than early ones and they have an antenna inbedded) before I ship it to Florida. One of my Customers owns a large Transport companies ( one of the largest on U-Ship) so I'm trading him Camaro parts for the Transport.
Posted by: carr914 Sep 20 2018, 08:54 AM
Mine. You can see why I asked the wheel question.
Good Looking car except for those Wheels
the nice thing about early cars is that you can fit Fuchs (although the 951 Fuchs are pricey). Bad thing is there are less & less 16" performance tires available
Posted by: Racer Sep 20 2018, 11:03 AM
Just trying to wrap my head around this. I have an ‘86 so early offset. Since the offset is the spacing on the inside of the rim that would mean if I want to use later wheels I’d need spaces (roughly an inch in this case) and possibly longer studs? I’m I thinking that through correctly?
Correct... the '86 944T (951) ran early offset 7/8 x 16 wheels (Fuchs and Phone Dials) with an ET of 23.3mm front and rear. To run "late" offsets, you would need about 28 mm of spacers. 1" = 25.4mm so, 1-1.25" could work.
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 20 2018, 02:51 PM
Mine. You can see why I asked the wheel question.
Good Looking car except for those Wheels
the nice thing about early cars is that you can fit Fuchs (although the 951 Fuchs are pricey). Bad thing is there are less & less 16" performance tires available
Agreed those wheels gotta go. I looked at the 944 specific Fuchs but they are pricey. I’ll probably do the Boxster wheels and spacers. Boxster wheels are cheap and it opens up the tire catalog versus the 16”.
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 20 2018, 02:51 PM
Just trying to wrap my head around this. I have an ‘86 so early offset. Since the offset is the spacing on the inside of the rim that would mean if I want to use later wheels I’d need spaces (roughly an inch in this case) and possibly longer studs? I’m I thinking that through correctly?
Correct... the '86 944T (951) ran early offset 7/8 x 16 wheels (Fuchs and Phone Dials) with an ET of 23.3mm front and rear. To run "late" offsets, you would need about 28 mm of spacers. 1" = 25.4mm so, 1-1.25" could work.
Thanks for confirming. Now off to find spacers...
Posted by: carr914 Sep 28 2018, 05:33 PM
the windshield is in! $1400 to his Insurance Co! My Transport Co (not URY this time) will picked it up this coming week and I'll have it the next day
Posted by: carr914 Sep 28 2018, 05:35 PM
Mine. You can see why I asked the wheel question.
There was a car at the ChumpCar race last weekend running those wheels, so they have some value
Posted by: Rob-O Sep 28 2018, 06:13 PM
Mine. You can see why I asked the wheel question.
There was a car at the ChumpCar race last weekend running those wheels, so they have some value
Probably would look better with the center caps. But they’re tough to find. By the time I cleaned the wheels and bought center caps I think I could be in some late model Porsche rims. But thanks for the tip, instead of trashing them I’ll at least put them up for sale somewhere. Maybe someone can use them.
Posted by: flmont Sep 28 2018, 08:19 PM
I had a 86 944, Handled great but what a Dog it was super slow. I think they were 140 HP.
Posted by: bcheney Sep 28 2018, 08:58 PM
TC That’s a bitchin ride!! Can’t wait to see it!
quote name='carr914' date='Sep 9 2018, 08:56 AM' post='2647043']
my two year experiment with building a LS3 73 Camaro is over! Couldn't get a shop to finish some things (and it wouldn't fit in my Garage).
I'm a Driver 1st & foremost, so it has been a grind to see a project going nowhere, so my latest pickup is
with LS6 Motor!
[/quote]
Posted by: carr914 Oct 1 2018, 11:13 AM
being picked up tonight in a two car enclosed trailer, could have it tomorrow!
Posted by: matthepcat Oct 1 2018, 11:52 AM
All you non California folks have all the fun.
Posted by: mepstein Oct 1 2018, 12:12 PM
I might want to buy it from you in a couple years when you get tired of it and I’m done paying for college.
Posted by: mepstein Oct 1 2018, 12:12 PM
db post
Posted by: carr914 Oct 1 2018, 09:22 PM
of course, the transporter didn't show up! 
Posted by: carr914 Oct 1 2018, 09:25 PM
to cheer myself up, here's a couple of pictures of my white 944
Posted by: carr914 Oct 2 2018, 06:14 PM
Posted by: Rusty Oct 2 2018, 07:27 PM
Damn... now I miss my 944. That was one hell of a daily driver.
Posted by: Rob-O Oct 2 2018, 08:40 PM
Looks great. We need some video of this thing!
Posted by: jmitro Oct 2 2018, 08:49 PM
cool car! I owned a 944, 944S, and 944 turbo. loved them all.
once I finish my 914 I'm building a 924 carrera GT replica.
can't imagine what that car feels like with a massive V8!
Posted by: 7TPorsh Oct 3 2018, 05:46 PM
I'm loving mine. Wish I could put a V8 in it but I'm in Califorkme.
Posted by: carr914 Oct 3 2018, 06:23 PM
She's Home!
Posted by: FlacaProductions Oct 3 2018, 06:35 PM
I had both an 86 and 89 951's - the 89's are loaded and the last and best....I miss that car. a LOT...
Posted by: carr914 Oct 4 2018, 05:50 PM
got rid of that stupid rear reflector, one of my welders will hit the holes 
Posted by: carr914 Oct 4 2018, 05:51 PM
dug into my Stash for a gem
Posted by: URY914 Oct 5 2018, 04:24 AM
I want to a see a picture of those rear tires in a complete smokey burn out with smoke rolling off them. 
Posted by: carr914 Oct 5 2018, 04:49 AM
Paul, I might have to make a run to Jax tomorrow to pick up some wheels from Broadfoot
Posted by: FlacaProductions Oct 5 2018, 09:59 AM
Now get that rear plate lined up....
https://members.rennlist.com/951_racerx/LicensePlate.html
Posted by: DRPHIL914 Oct 5 2018, 10:41 AM
dug into my Stash for a gem
Beauty!! did you say it came from up here in SC? how did I miss that
Posted by: JRust Oct 5 2018, 12:15 PM
Awesome TC! Looked at an LS conversion a while ago. Wish I could have afforded it. Sweet setup there 
Posted by: Rob-O Oct 5 2018, 12:19 PM
Now get that rear plate lined up....
https://members.rennlist.com/951_racerx/LicensePlate.html
I like this idea and may implement it. But I don’t think the license plate bracket needed nuts and bolts. Just screws. I thought there was a small plastic piece that fit into those square holes that the screw, uh, screws into.
Posted by: FlacaProductions Oct 5 2018, 12:30 PM
I can't remember either, exactly but I know I did it on my black 89 and it did look nice. I think it's one of those things that after you read the instructions and "get in there" it becomes obvious....
Posted by: carr914 Oct 5 2018, 07:14 PM
Now get that rear plate lined up....
https://members.rennlist.com/951_racerx/LicensePlate.html
that was something I was definitely going to do
Posted by: carr914 Oct 5 2018, 07:17 PM
dug into my Stash for a gem
Beauty!! did you say it came from up here in SC? how did I miss that
Lexington SC it wasn't For Sale. I put a WTB ad on a conversion site and he responded. Long Story but it was time for him to sell. I think he will want it back
Posted by: carr914 Oct 5 2018, 07:23 PM
Awesome TC! Looked at an LS conversion a while ago. Wish I could have afforded it. Sweet setup there
thru that other site that I posted on, other people have contacted too. I found another one at half the cost of this one, but it needs some work. I might buy it too!
Posted by: carr914 Oct 5 2018, 07:26 PM
picking up these Fiske's tomorrow. Probably need to narrow two of them
Posted by: carr914 Oct 7 2018, 07:16 AM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
Rob, my wheels will definitely be For Sale in a few weeks since I picked up the Fikse's
Posted by: Rob-O Oct 7 2018, 10:38 AM
Just a quick question about the wheels on this thing. They look like (and I’m pretty sure are) 17” Boxster rims. I assume 7” and 8”
wide but do you happen to know the offset? Curious what size tires those are, too.
I just picked up a rough 944 Turbo and I like the look with those wheels. I looked up companies that do LS conversions and one of the first places that popped up on my internet search was a place in the same town as me. Had no idea these guys even existed but plan to run by and check out their operation soon.
Rob, my wheels will definitely be For Sale in a few weeks since I picked up the Fikse's
Well, shoot, that’s bad timing.
On Thursday I jumped on CL and low and behold a guy had the early offset phone dials in 16”...two miles from my house. Guy had no idea what he had, he was trying to put them on a ‘67 Beetle...with stock fenders. He got ‘em from a guy who didn’t know what he had. First guy put brand new tires on them and proceeded to put them on a later 944. He quickly sliced up one of the rears, figured he didn’t have the right wheels and traded to the guy I bought them from.
Tires and associated hardware removed and headed to paint on Monday.
I appreciate you remembering that I was interested. They look clean so I’m sure they’ll sell quick.
Posted by: carr914 Oct 7 2018, 11:54 AM
They will sell as they are in nice shape, no biggie!
Here are the Fikse's - I think I will re-size the fronts
Posted by: FourBlades Oct 7 2018, 02:38 PM
Nice wheels!
Posted by: Rob-O Oct 7 2018, 08:37 PM
The Fikses just seem to take the car to another level. I don’t know how to explain it. They make it look classy, exclusive and a higher end car.
Nice to see the Acura. Looks like it’s getting its share of attention.
Posted by: carr914 Oct 8 2018, 07:54 PM
The Fikses just seem to take the car to another level. I don’t know how to explain it. They make it look classy, exclusive and a higher end car.
Nice to see the Acura. Looks like it’s getting its share of attention.
my Acura was Bobby Rahal Mom's car!
Posted by: Rob-O Oct 8 2018, 08:34 PM
I remember!
Posted by: carr914 Oct 16 2018, 05:48 PM
picking up these Fiske's tomorrow. Probably need to narrow two of them
Got my new Barrels & Bolts from Fikse - more expensive than the wheels!
Glad I got a killer deal
Posted by: carr914 Nov 9 2018, 06:16 AM
put some Leather Corbeaus in to replace the badly done vinyl originals that I sold
Posted by: carr914 Nov 12 2018, 06:25 AM
picking up these Fiske's tomorrow. Probably need to narrow two of them
the rears are done
Posted by: URY914 Nov 12 2018, 06:24 PM
Lookin good.
Posted by: carr914 Nov 17 2018, 11:55 AM
Fikses mounted & on the Car
Posted by: preach Nov 17 2018, 12:45 PM
Looks great TC
Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 17 2018, 02:26 PM
Looks great TC
Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 17 2018, 02:37 PM
Yowza! That is good lookin'
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