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Posted by: mb911 Sep 13 2018, 05:53 AM
Front GT bumper mod group buy. I will mod you bumper mod for the GT oil cooler cut out for 475. You pay shipping... Check back for updates on this thread.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 13 2018, 06:23 AM
A mirror image of the valance is what I would like. I’ll measure up mine (lower valance) to make sure it’s similar to yours.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 13 2018, 06:37 AM
Here's an option. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=17942
Don't know who did modification but NICE.
Sorry...I didn't measure.
Oscar
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 13 2018, 06:38 AM
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 13 2018, 07:16 AM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=419
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Posted by: totle Sep 13 2018, 07:46 AM
This is my opening for aftermarket RX-7 oil cooler.
I did cut too much so had to add som steel on top to make it fit for the rx cooler
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Posted by: mb911 Sep 13 2018, 01:33 PM
That looks mirrored thats what I will do..
Thanks
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 13 2018, 01:39 PM
That looks mirrored thats what I will do..
Thanks
looks factory made!!!Oscar
Posted by: dakotaewing Sep 13 2018, 06:10 PM
Here are a few more to consider -
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Posted by: GeorgeRud Sep 13 2018, 09:14 PM
I just matched the width of the notch in the Getty valance and cut the bumper so it opened to the top of the circular cutouts in the front panel.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 14 2018, 06:16 AM
19 3/4" width on the available repro GT valence.
My car is 21" based on the full width (including end tanks) of an exact copy GT cooler
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Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 14 2018, 07:14 AM
I still have to mod my valance but my bumper is 19-3/4" x 1-1/2"
Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 16 2018, 11:53 AM
Here's an option. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=17942
Don't know who did modification but NICE.
Sorry...I didn't measure.
Oscar
Have to say it is pretty cool, and an honor to see your car be posted for a topic along with a couple pictures I didn't know existed. Thanks Oscar
The bumper is in fact a mirror of the FG lower valance that was performed by an amazing metal worker here locally in the San Diego area. He does it for a living and also works out of his house. Between his own projects and those of others he is always in demand and very hard to get in his queue. I have been fortunate to have him help me with a couple things over the years. A true artist.
I was out of town, so just catching up on things, being away was not able to measure until now. The opening is 20" wide and 4" high.
As an aside the mesh I used is gutter stop available at Home Depot and comes already painted black.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 17 2018, 01:34 PM
I did 1 sample cut out today. Went extremly smooth. Measured center of bumper then 10 inches each direction. Then measured up 1-7\8" from the bottom and made my cuts. With the reinforcement welded in I will be at approximatly 1-3/4"× 19-7/8" which then makes it blend into the bottom valance. There is also decent space between the bumper and valance to give an optical illusion thus the reason I sized it that way.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 18 2018, 10:24 AM
Posted by: mb911 Sep 18 2018, 10:25 AM
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 18 2018, 10:40 AM
Ben-
Kool...very appealing GT mod, I think you need to offer this mod as a service.
Are you going to add radius to opening? More pics please.
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Oscar
Posted by: wes Sep 18 2018, 10:48 AM
Looking good!
Posted by: mb911 Sep 18 2018, 11:17 AM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Posted by: TravisNeff Sep 18 2018, 11:19 AM
This thread should be in the classics, maybe with some cut dimensions of the cooler opening and exit 
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 18 2018, 11:28 AM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Yes..I see 3/4" radius on corners however, I was referring to horizontal and vertical sections like Jim's.
Jim's appeared to have same radius as bottom edge of bumper.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 18 2018, 03:47 PM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Yes..I see 3/4" radius on corners however, I was referring to horizontal and vertical sections like Jim's.
Jim's appeared to have same radius as bottom edge of bumper.
Ah gotcha.. I may do that.. I think why that was done was to make the transition softer.. I will look at that tomorrow .
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 18 2018, 03:53 PM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Yes..I see 3/4" radius on corners however, I was referring to horizontal and vertical sections like Jim's.
Jim's appeared to have same radius as bottom edge of bumper.
Ah gotcha.. I may do that.. I think why that was done was to make the transition softer.. I will look at that tomorrow .
If you can achieve this and it's not to much trouble I may send you two of mine. I can PayPal right away...thx for taking this challenge.
I see a GB for GT Front bumper mods coming.
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Sep 18 2018, 05:40 PM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Yes..I see 3/4" radius on corners however, I was referring to horizontal and vertical sections like Jim's.
Jim's appeared to have same radius as bottom edge of bumper.
Ah gotcha.. I may do that.. I think why that was done was to make the transition softer.. I will look at that tomorrow .
If you can achieve this and it's not to much trouble I may send you two of mine. I can PayPal right away...thx for taking this challenge.
I see a GB for GT Front bumper mods coming.
Oscar
I know I can do it.. Just have to figure out how much time to do these.. I have heard quotes of 10 hours.. I am just not seeing that.. Probably more like 5 hours each.
Posted by: wes Sep 18 2018, 06:04 PM
I’ve got a bumper that I’m planning to have done if you decide to do them.
Posted by: 914forme Sep 18 2018, 07:01 PM
I have two I could send up.
Oscar, might need to get another bumper chroming GB going also.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 18 2018, 07:11 PM
This might also be a good option for the bumpers that aren’t suited for rechroming. Get a GT opening done and then fill and paint.
I’m doing a set in semigloss black. I want it to look nice but It doesn’t have to be concours perfect.
Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 18 2018, 08:22 PM
There is a 3/4" radius in the corners.. And might do a few.
Yes..I see 3/4" radius on corners however, I was referring to horizontal and vertical sections like Jim's.
Jim's appeared to have same radius as bottom edge of bumper.
Ah gotcha.. I may do that.. I think why that was done was to make the transition softer.. I will look at that tomorrow .
If you can achieve this and it's not to much trouble I may send you two of mine. I can PayPal right away...thx for taking this challenge.
I see a GB for GT Front bumper mods coming.
Oscar
Group Buy! Timing is everything!
You ever heard of being born too soon? 
Dang Well I take solace in that mine is getting so much love in this thread.
Love the talent being shown here.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2018, 04:26 AM
Guys thanks so much. I am gonna finish the 3 bumpers then see were we are at.. There seems there is allot of interest in this . I am still not sure what to charge for something like this.. I must also note the bumpers I have here measure in at 20 ga.. That is pretty thin
Posted by: 914forme Sep 19 2018, 05:09 AM
Looks like the bumpers you are using where both chromed. A local plater to me said he prefers to to plate bumpers that had not been plated. "Steel was thicker" It seems in his shop they used an acid dip to get everything clean and he said previously chromed bumpers where thinner than a painted bumper. Little did bit dredged up from the early 90s.
20Ga seems thin on the bumper, the last pained bumper I needed to pound a dent out of, sure did not move like it was 20 gauge. So maybe the platers idea was spot on, and the chrome bumpers became thinner based off the process used at that time. 
Posted by: mepstein Sep 19 2018, 06:22 AM
The front bumpers are really light. I didn’t weigh them but the front feels a pound or two lighter than the rear.
Posted by: JmuRiz Sep 19 2018, 07:22 AM
I noticed the weight difference too when attempting to get mine ready to ship, I never thought they'd be different and was surprised.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2018, 09:43 AM
I think its because the metal is stretched in certain areas. Also remember these were cars meant for major profits.. I would assume that they were at best 19ga
Here is a better picture of a bumper I am getting ready to send out for chrome.. Still some work to do..
Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2018, 09:43 AM
Posted by: 914Toy Sep 19 2018, 10:02 AM
With due respect to all, most cut-outs I see for up front oil coolers (not water radiator coolers) are way too large with strips being cut out of the bumper and valance. Pic is my cut out of valance only, with air flowing into the "frunk" through the slots cut by joining some of the holes in the body - can see through the screen. Never have a heating problem with my 911 2.7 installed. 
Posted by: Steve Sep 19 2018, 10:11 AM
Bumper wise, I am doing the same thing as Keith. Stock front chrome bumper with GT lower valance. Unless your a concourse weenie or track junkie, there are no cooling issues even in the desert. Regarding the shroud, I purchased the two piece GT fiberglass replica from Getty Design. It was very easy to set it in place, draw around it and cut 1/2” between the lines to mount it.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2018, 10:13 AM
With due respect to all, most cut-outs I see for up front oil coolers (not water radiator coolers) are way too large with strips being cut out of the bumper and valance. Pic is my cut out of valance only, with air flowing into the "frunk" through the slots cut by joining some of the holes in the body - can see through the screen. Never have a heating problem with my 911 2.7 installed.
I think its really about the look more so then the function..I did the same as you describe on my last build and worked great..
Side note just measured Danny's painted bumper that actually looks like its is heavy crhomed underneath and that is 18Ga.
Posted by: Steve Sep 19 2018, 10:32 AM
With due respect to all, most cut-outs I see for up front oil coolers (not water radiator coolers) are way too large with strips being cut out of the bumper and valance. Pic is my cut out of valance only, with air flowing into the "frunk" through the slots cut by joining some of the holes in the body - can see through the screen. Never have a heating problem with my 911 2.7 installed.
I think its really about the look more so then the function..I did the same as you describe on my last build and worked great..
Side note just measured Danny's painted bumper that actually looks like its is heavy crhomed underneath and that is 18Ga.
I agree it does look better and if the price is right, I would be interested in getting my chrome bumper modified.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 19 2018, 11:25 AM
I love the look of the GT cutout. If it was just about function, I wouldn’t have a 914.
Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2018, 03:54 PM
I love the look of the GT cutout. If it was just about function, I wouldn’t have a 914.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 19 2018, 03:57 PM
I love the look of the GT cutout. If it was just about function, I wouldn’t have a 914.
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Posted by: mb911 Sep 20 2018, 06:40 PM
I will post updated pictures. I will do steel cores for 475 and stainless steel bumpers for $550.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 20 2018, 08:17 PM
I will post updated pictures. I will do steel cores for 475 and stainless steel bumpers for $550.
Fair price for work performed.
If I like...I will do TWO steel bumpers.
I couldn't or wouldn't do them any cheaper.
Thx Ben
Posted by: mb911 Sep 23 2018, 03:49 PM
I will post updated pictures. I will do steel cores for 475 and stainless steel bumpers for $550.
Fair price for work performed.
If I like...I will do TWO steel bumpers.
I couldn't or wouldn't do them any cheaper.
Thx Ben
Thanks..
I have done 3 now and each one turns out better and better.. I now have a nice proven method.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 23 2018, 04:00 PM
Man, Ben just keep knocking the ball out of the park for the 914 World community. He is definitely one talented man. Cheers,
Posted by: mb911 Sep 23 2018, 04:27 PM
Man, Ben just keep knocking the ball out of the park for the 914 World community. He is definitely one talented man. Cheers,
Its amazing how a person can figure things out of necessity ..
I enjoy doing the work and try to keep everything cost effective..
Posted by: mb911 Sep 25 2018, 11:20 AM
All ready to get shipped out.. Version 1 and 2 behind it.. 
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 25 2018, 11:23 AM
VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!
Oscar
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Sep 25 2018, 11:25 AM
excellent work AS USUAL!! Too bad there is not a ready supply of used not so perfect front bumpers or you could really go to town.
All ready to get shipped out.. Version 1 and 2 behind it..
Posted by: mb911 Sep 25 2018, 01:44 PM
excellent work AS USUAL!! Too bad there is not a ready supply of used not so perfect front bumpers or you could really go to town.
All ready to get shipped out.. Version 1 and 2 behind it..
Thanks . I think I have a gentle men sending me several cores in trade for me doing the GT cut out. That may start an exchange program.
Posted by: Justinp71 Sep 25 2018, 02:09 PM
I'm interested, I assume the price is for the steel work only (not including plating), is there a group buy cost going for getting them re-chromed?
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 25 2018, 02:46 PM
I'm interested, I assume the price is for the steel work only (not including plating), is there a group buy cost going for getting them re-chromed?
YES...I can hold GB rechrome pricing on these bumpers.
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Sep 25 2018, 03:04 PM
I'm interested, I assume the price is for the steel work only (not including plating), is there a group buy cost going for getting them re-chromed?
@Justin71 yes this is for the steel work only. I have honed my method on my way through 3 of these. There is allot of little details on these and I know now how to anticipate that as I build them..
Posted by: mb911 Oct 2 2018, 08:15 PM
Anyone else want one done?
Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 3 2018, 11:07 AM
Props to Ben @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 !!!!!
His GT front bumper mods came out SWEET!!!
I’m definitely in for two.
I like the nice small tig welds...very cleanly done. Can't wait to see them chromed.
My guys are used to 1/4" to 3" plate welding and impressed with Ben's nice work. 
Oscar
Posted by: Aircooledfool Oct 3 2018, 11:27 AM
Ben -
I'm in for one but I do not have a core at the moment. I'm actively trying to find one. I need one without the holes for "tits". Thanks -
Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 3 2018, 11:47 AM
Ben -
I'm in for one but I do not have a core at the moment. I'm actively trying to find one. I need one without the holes for "tits". Thanks -
I may have one I can ship to Ben for you. I'll know more in the upcoming days. Awaiting shipment from another member.
Stay tuned!!!
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Oct 3 2018, 02:16 PM
Props to Ben @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 !!!!!
His GT front bumper mods came out SWEET!!!
I’m definitely in for two.
I like the nice small tig welds...very cleanly done. Can't wait to see them chromed.
My guys are used to 1/4" to 3" plate welding and impressed with Ben's nice work.
Oscar
Oscar thank you for the kind words.. I learned a method on these and started on @Markepstein s then worked mine and then Dannys each time with improvements and I have an even better way to do them now.
I will be offering this service on my new website as I enjoy doing them . besides it helps for paying for my chrome work
Posted by: mepstein Oct 3 2018, 03:31 PM
Props to Ben @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 !!!!!
His GT front bumper mods came out SWEET!!!
I’m definitely in for two.
I like the nice small tig welds...very cleanly done. Can't wait to see them chromed.
My guys are used to 1/4" to 3" plate welding and impressed with Ben's nice work.
Oscar
Oscar thank you for the kind words.. I learned a method on these and started on @Markepstein s then worked mine and then Dannys each time with improvements and I have an even better way to do them now.
I will be offering this service on my new website as I enjoy doing them . besides it helps for paying for my chrome work
I;m the first to get the 2nd's
Posted by: mb911 Nov 14 2018, 06:58 AM
Oscar says we will likely see the pictures of my mods over the next week or so..
I will be doing a few more of these over the next few week's if anyone else wants to get this done the last 2 week's of the year I am off my day job and will get these done for folks..
Posted by: wes Nov 15 2018, 12:57 AM
The end of the year just might work for me!
Posted by: ValcoOscar Nov 16 2018, 02:42 PM
Pictures as promised!!!! 
to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892
Sorry...pics don't them justice.
I should have taken pics outdoors.
Oscar
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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 16 2018, 02:53 PM
Looks fantastic. I can see your reflection in it and everything. Reminds me of the guy selling tea kettles on ebay 
Posted by: mepstein Nov 16 2018, 02:55 PM
Wow!
Posted by: mb911 Nov 16 2018, 03:05 PM
Wow looks great..
Posted by: wes Nov 16 2018, 03:51 PM
All i can say is WOW amazing work Ben and chrome work! Now that’s another touch I’ve gotta have.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Nov 16 2018, 03:55 PM
In addition, gotta thank Jim @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=17942 !!!
I first noticed this exact mod on his front bumper back when his car was on jack stands.
Thank you Jim.
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Nov 16 2018, 06:20 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16669 these bumpers turned out so well.. Very impressed..
Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 16 2018, 06:48 PM
Rob Sime's car has this mod done by McMark..... 
Posted by: tyfighter123 Nov 16 2018, 10:21 PM
Hey Ben, Can I send you a bumper to have this mod done? Also @Ocsar will you be doing another group buy chrome service?
Thanks guys!
Tyler
Posted by: ValcoOscar Nov 16 2018, 10:35 PM
Hey Ben, Can I send you a bumper to have this mod done? Also @Ocsar will you be doing another group buy chrome service?
Thanks guys!
Tyler
Yes Tyler...Until further notice I AM holding GB re-chrome pricing for any of Ben's GT mod bumpers.
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Nov 16 2018, 11:05 PM
Hey Ben, Can I send you a bumper to have this mod done? Also @Ocsar will you be doing another group buy chrome service?
Thanks guys!
Tyler
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20422 yes absolutely. Happy to do it.
Posted by: wes Nov 17 2018, 08:08 PM
Ben, need to get this bumper boxed up for shipping but I’m ready for your artistic GT handy work when ever you would like. I’m also getting that final chrome touch by Oscar.
Posted by: mb911 Nov 18 2018, 07:05 AM
Ben, need to get this bumper boxed up for shipping but I’m ready for your artistic GT handy work when ever you would like. I’m also getting that final chrome touch by Oscar.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8436
I am ready when ever you are..
Posted by: mb911 Nov 26 2018, 03:03 PM
I have 4 prepped for welding..
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16669 gets credit for precutting the one huge opening for a v8.. 
Posted by: wes Nov 26 2018, 06:36 PM
My excitement is building. Ah but just realized that after Ben and Oscar are done with there combined beautiful craft work my perfectly good rear bumper is not going to have that gorgeous deep shiny look. Next!
Posted by: mb911 Nov 27 2018, 10:11 AM
I have one more bumper coming in and then received my 1st GT bumper back last night.. Looks great..
Posted by: mb911 Nov 28 2018, 10:25 AM
Here is Oscar's 1st bumper done. This is a huge cut out for maybe a v8 car? Either way looks good. 
Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 28 2018, 01:17 PM
I got to thinking about this modification and wondered if instead of the oil cooler you went with a modified air conditioning unit. No holes cut in the trunk pan, no water scoop. It would be up front like the 911SC condenser.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Nov 28 2018, 01:24 PM
Here is Oscar's 1st bumper done. This is a huge cut out for maybe a v8 car? Either way looks good.
All I can say
Yes, for my LSV8 car...
Oscar
Posted by: mb911 Nov 30 2018, 02:09 PM
Oscars 2nd bumper is done. I think I have 1 more bumper that maybe getting chromed so will ship all 3 to you Oscar.
Posted by: mb911 Dec 3 2018, 09:21 AM
All of Oscar's and Wes bumpers are done.. Shipping today. 
Posted by: mb911 Dec 19 2018, 04:31 PM
Tiefghters bumper is done.. Off to Oscar shortly for chroming.. 1 left to do and then maybe valance will be next?
Posted by: mepstein Dec 19 2018, 04:57 PM
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Posted by: mb911 Jan 4 2019, 05:56 PM
Received all of Marks valances so will start working that. Also now own 3 core bumpers so if anyone is looking to have a bumper done and doesn't want to use the one on the car I can help with that..
Posted by: Chi-town Jan 4 2019, 06:03 PM
Any non-chrome bumpers done?
Posted by: ValcoOscar Jan 4 2019, 10:00 PM
Any non-chrome bumpers done?
Here is one Ben did for me recently that I painted today...installing it tomorrow.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 4 2019, 10:24 PM
Any non-chrome bumpers done?
Here is one Ben did for me recently that I painted today...installing it tomorrow.
That’s what I’m going for on my GT build.
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Posted by: echocanyons Jan 4 2019, 10:46 PM
Would you consider doing a steel version of the bottom portion with a flare for the fender?
I assume that you would use a stock piece and modify it?
Posted by: mb911 Jan 5 2019, 06:24 AM
Any non-chrome bumpers done?
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22446 I can make you one easy enough..
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=7 yes that will happen but will take some time to develop a procedure etc.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 20 2019, 03:35 PM
3 ready for me to finish to your specs.. These are available for purchase outright or send me yours for modifications. 
Posted by: mb911 Feb 10 2019, 07:51 PM
Still have some available.. Let me know who needs one.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 1 2019, 05:00 PM
Spring sale to move a few of these. $400 you provide the bumper amd $550 I provide a bumper..
Posted by: mb911 Mar 1 2019, 05:01 PM
Ps that is without chroming.
Posted by: wes Mar 1 2019, 05:16 PM
Ps that is without chroming.
Good you added the “without chroming” it sounded to good to be true. I almost ordered another one and I haven’t another car to even put it on.
Any progress on the matching GT valance?
Posted by: mb911 Mar 1 2019, 08:46 PM
Ps that is without chroming.
Good you added the “without chroming” it sounded to good to be true. I almost ordered another one and I haven’t another car to even put it on.
Any progress on the matching GT valance?
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8436 no progress yet. Just so busy with day job/kids /business/and working on my car.. It's on my radar.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 11 2019, 12:20 PM
All of my cores are spoken for but 1.. Let me know who needs one made up and I can handle the chroming and even bumper tops if needed.
Posted by: mb911 Jul 13 2019, 10:06 AM
Still offering this service but NO chroming offered unless I can find someone local to chrome.. Oscar's source does great work but neither he nor I can control time frame..
Posted by: mb911 Dec 2 2019, 08:28 PM
I have enough material to do 2 more of these.. I will offer the last 2 up for 350 1st come 1st serve..
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