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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 12 2018, 10:18 AM

Haven't seen many pics installed in a 914, but remember seeing them in catalogs way back when they had printed catalogs, lol. Show me smile.gif

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 12 2018, 10:28 AM

For a 911. I am thinking about trying a different oil line cover that would incorporate something like this. smash.gif


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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 12 2018, 10:57 AM

hmm


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Posted by: orthobiz Nov 12 2018, 11:04 AM

There was one sold way back when, was it Imparts??? No pic, though.

Paul

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 12 2018, 11:44 AM

Thanks Paul, I did some google searching. Guess what? We seem to have this same post every couple of years. I must have forgot how to use the search tool.

http://914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=269450

Posted by: Mblizzard Nov 12 2018, 12:57 PM

Would highly recommend the https://maddogsmotorsports.com/914-accessories version.

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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 12 2018, 02:07 PM

I like the simplicity of this. But instead of the nubbins it needs some ridiculous added to it.


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Posted by: pvollma Nov 12 2018, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Nov 12 2018, 12:18 PM) *

Haven't seen many pics installed in a 914, but remember seeing them in catalogs way back when they had printed catalogs, lol. Show me smile.gif

Here's mine, from Rennline. Fits so well I didn't need to attach it to the footwell. I had just installed all new carpet and didn't want to wear a hole in it.
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Posted by: StratPlayer Nov 12 2018, 04:05 PM

My setup


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Posted by: 914 Ranch Nov 13 2018, 12:49 AM

Probably not something that you want to use as I believe you will have a much nicer interior than I was looking for when I built her but this works fine in the lightest 914-6 in the World.

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Now I get to see if the pic is right side up.
Nope...

Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 13 2018, 02:16 AM

Fixed it fur ya Joe.

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Actually, this pedal works brilliantly, because it is in exactly the right location.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 13 2018, 04:54 AM

That Is ,,one dead pedal... lol-2.gif

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 13 2018, 07:30 AM

I see that all of these move the pedal a lot more to the left than what I depicted. What I was thinking is too close to the clutch pedal.

Posted by: screenguy914 Nov 13 2018, 07:35 PM

I made a pattern from a 911 factory dead pedal, then modified the angle to conform to the inner wheel well.

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Sherwood

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 13 2018, 07:55 PM

I'm not sure if this is Weltmeister......?

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Posted by: mgphoto Nov 13 2018, 08:59 PM

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 13 2018, 10:02 PM

QUOTE(pvollma @ Nov 12 2018, 05:41 PM) *

QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Nov 12 2018, 12:18 PM) *

Haven't seen many pics installed in a 914, but remember seeing them in catalogs way back when they had printed catalogs, lol. Show me smile.gif

Here's mine, from Rennline. Fits so well I didn't need to attach it to the footwell. I had just installed all new carpet and didn't want to wear a hole in it.
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Interesting. I ordered one from Rennline and it doesn’t even come close to fitting. I wonder what the sent me? huh.gif

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 13 2018, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Nov 13 2018, 07:59 PM) *

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.



Now we are getting somewhere, simpler the better.

Posted by: 7275914911 Nov 14 2018, 07:31 AM

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Don't remember who here cut/sold these at one time?

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 14 2018, 09:33 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10225 Can you share rough dimensions of this piece? Depth, height and width?

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 14 2018, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Nov 13 2018, 11:59 PM) *

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3348 should reproduce that puppy for those of us with an original GT fetish...

Posted by: mepstein Nov 14 2018, 09:40 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 14 2018, 10:37 AM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Nov 13 2018, 11:59 PM) *

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3348 should reproduce that puppy for those of us with an original GT fetish...

Ben could probably do it as well to go with his GT style kit. He usually just needs a sample to get it started.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892

Posted by: mb911 Nov 14 2018, 10:33 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 14 2018, 07:40 AM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 14 2018, 10:37 AM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Nov 13 2018, 11:59 PM) *

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3348 should reproduce that puppy for those of us with an original GT fetish...

Ben could probably do it as well to go with his GT style kit. He usually just needs a sample to get it started.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892



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Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 14 2018, 01:27 PM

Another Engman Special.
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Posted by: dan10101 Nov 14 2018, 02:59 PM

Good Thread, I need this.

However, I would have named it "Bring out your Dead... pedal"

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 14 2018, 09:23 PM

Still interested in this thread. I made a new oil line cover and have a starter bent piece for a dead pedal. I think I will shorten it up - or maybe try to get a little closer to that factory GT part with the bends. Perfect excuse to get a cheap-o bead roller


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Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 14 2018, 10:24 PM

http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/driver-s-foot-rest-pedal-p18063.html

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 14 2018, 10:26 PM

Thanks Larmo, dimensions!


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Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 14 2018, 10:31 PM

I'd just buy that.....

Done deal. I think they sell the rubber insert separately.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 14 2018, 10:39 PM

But I am this close!


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Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 14 2018, 10:57 PM

I think that a welded in dead pedal would be the shit.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 15 2018, 09:06 AM

Poking around on Armando's website for some inspiration


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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 15 2018, 09:07 AM

uno mas


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Posted by: Marv's3.6six Nov 15 2018, 12:52 PM

One more here is mine.


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Posted by: ChrisFoley Nov 16 2018, 06:08 AM

Minimalist, in my race car. The goal was to be close to and parallel to the clutch pedal, so I can quickly move my foot into action. Notice it has a side on the left to prevent moving my foot too far away.

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Posted by: maf914 Nov 16 2018, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Nov 13 2018, 05:55 PM) *

I'm not sure if this is Weltmeister......?

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Yep, Weltmeister.

I bought one years ago. It resides in a box of "Looked like a good idea when I bought it" parts. laugh.gif

Posted by: jfort Nov 16 2018, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 14 2018, 07:37 AM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Nov 13 2018, 11:59 PM) *

From the 914/6GT parts book.


914.551.140.71 Foot supporting left.


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Picked it up about 25 years ago label adhesive dried up and fell off.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3348 should reproduce that puppy for those of us with an original GT fetish...


AGREE

Posted by: Steve Nov 16 2018, 08:49 AM

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Thanks Larmo, dimensions!

I like this one, but it would hit the oil lines, so you would have to butcher it, to make it fit.

Posted by: anderssj Nov 16 2018, 08:55 AM

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It resides in a box of "Looked like a good idea when I bought it" parts. laugh.gif

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I've got a couple of boxes just like that dry.gif

Posted by: gms Nov 16 2018, 08:53 PM

mine
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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 24 2018, 11:45 PM

Jeff is egging me on to get moving forward with this. I got my seat mounted in the car and can start to get a feel for where this needs to be. Chris Foley's & the GT car dead pedal looks to be in the right spot for oh shit moments. But looking at Lawrence's pedal (the carpet) you can see where the foot normally rests for regular use. Which is lower and more to the left.

I could do a small pedal and weld it in. I am thinking to make this cantilevered out past the radius of the wheel tub just a touch. This would put the dead pedal a little closer to the clutch. My only worry that if i get it too close it is going to be a pain in the ass when driving around. i have wide feet/shoes so I better think about it.

Then What to do with the area between the line cover pedal described above. I could just run without carpet and put some skateboard grip tape on the area. Or I could try to do some sort of transition piece between the cover and the dead pedal. I am thinking less is more here.


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Posted by: GeorgeRud Nov 25 2018, 10:29 AM

I have cars with both types of dead pedals, but prefer the factory style over the aluminum one as it seems to feel more comfortable. I also have large, wide feet and need every inch of room. Actually, removing my shoes for driving seems to work best and I can then get my left foot between the dead pedal and behind the clutch pedal to rest my leg on long interstate drives.

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 25 2018, 10:54 AM

I'll probably be changing out this low cast aluminum dead pedal for the Sierra Madre/original style DP soon.

This style works, but only does half the job.

Also, I find that a dead pedal is helpful for getting in and out of the car.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 25 2018, 11:51 AM

Looking at your Lawrence, I think I see some of why they designed it the way that they did. I think that it was meant to be a little higher (where you have the most wear on your carpet) And that flange at the bottom is so that your feet can rest on the floor and not interfere with the pedal unless you are ready to stomp on it.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 25 2018, 11:54 AM

So I got my seat in the car and farted around with the oil line covers. The first one I made (they grey one) is much more comfortable than the shorter second one I made.

I think I will try some trimming of the second one to get it a little closer to the wheel tub. I am afraid to cut it up, but it wasn't all too hard to make - just takes time


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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 25 2018, 01:15 PM

I trimmed the 2nd oil line cover so that it is closer to the wheel well. Feels better. I also cut and bent some reliefs against where it will mate on the floor. I better make sure the lines still fit behind it. Then onto the dead pedal


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Posted by: worn Nov 25 2018, 01:28 PM

Maybe you racers can chime in. They pulled the long toggle switches from Jaguar E types due to safety concerns. So much for the feeling of being a jet pilot. I have a few homemade modifications in the cabin and wonder how much we should be avoiding sharp edges or padding things. What areas of the car are of concern? Curious because I have often wanted a dead pedal. Normally in auto cross I have my left foot planted on the wheel well as tight as I can.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 25 2018, 01:49 PM

Grabbed a piece of scrap and started bending. Hard to see from the pic but it has a pronounced dead pedal at the top and a slope below it for resting you foot. This would be wider and more inboard, just getting an idea to think about.


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Posted by: 914Toy Nov 25 2018, 02:06 PM

Keep it simple. A piece of flat aluminum bent as shown, secured with 4 self threading screws. and a piece of step-anti-slip material that comes with adhesive (Home Depot).

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Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 25 2018, 02:55 PM

I have some skateboard grip tape left over from another project.

I cut up some more metal. not liking it so much, but I do like the pronounced dead pedal piece.


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Posted by: ChrisFoley Nov 25 2018, 07:08 PM

You need to have the clutch pedal at working height so you can make the dead pedal exactly parallel, or as close as possible - so there's only sideways movement of the foot required to engage the pedal. Then you need the footrest far enough a way so your foot is fully off the clutch, and a side stop so your foot can't get too far away.

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