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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ 1,200 Mile 914 coming to auction
Posted by: Ferg Nov 16 2018, 11:57 AM
I knew about this car a little bit ago but kept quiet. It will be interesting to see what this one brings.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ca18/the-petersen-automotive-museum-auction/lots/r0011-1975-porsche-914-20/724528
Posted by: Mueller Nov 16 2018, 12:00 PM
drop the front end a little and drive it as is. Wow someone is going to get a great car.
Posted by: Racer Nov 16 2018, 12:06 PM
A pic pof the hellhole will confirm if indeed, they left the factory rusting 
idk.. 1200 miles? really? kinda sad imho.
Posted by: db9146 Nov 16 2018, 12:06 PM
Nice car but with less than 1200 miles, it doesn't look as clean as I would have thought (front bumper, spoiler, engine compartment with broken hose).
Posted by: Chi-town Nov 16 2018, 12:09 PM
1200 miles, you drive that car at all and you'll probably find yourself with a large puddle of oil underneath it as all the dried out seals let go.
Posted by: Ferg Nov 16 2018, 12:11 PM
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Posted by: Ferg Nov 16 2018, 12:12 PM
Notice no dealer radio or antennae installed
Posted by: Mueller Nov 16 2018, 12:21 PM
Pic when found
Did someone buy the car, put it in storage and forgot about it? So odd.
Posted by: Ferg Nov 16 2018, 12:22 PM
Pic when found
Did someone buy the car, put it in storage and forgot about it? So odd.
Story on auction site, follow the link.
Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 16 2018, 12:35 PM
I have never seen this before
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Posted by: JeffBowlsby Nov 16 2018, 12:37 PM
Not much dust on that car after 40 yrs solitary. I am having trouble connecting the dots on this one.
Posted by: Chi-town Nov 16 2018, 12:41 PM
Not much dust on that car after 40 yrs solitary. I am having trouble connecting the dots on this one.
There appears to be marks where someone wiped it off or a car cover was on it?
Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 16 2018, 12:43 PM
If you look at the surrounding stuff in the garage, you can see that the garage floor is not that old. I bet this has been moved around a bit.
Posted by: John Nov 16 2018, 12:50 PM
I was expecting to see a mint condition interior light, but it was missing.
Overall, it does look like it's in nice condition.
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 16 2018, 01:01 PM
Not much dust on that car after 40 yrs solitary. I am having trouble connecting the dots on this one.
Just because it was sitting in that garage for 40 years doesn't mean it wasn't wiped off every other year.
Some people are perfectly capable of not letting 40 years of dust accumulate on their cars ...
Posted by: bretth Nov 16 2018, 01:02 PM
Neat and is only 255 numbers away from my 75 made in the same month.
Posted by: DEC Nov 16 2018, 01:44 PM
The shifter knob looks like my 100.000 miles one.... and it is repainted, look at the driverside door opener...but still a nice car
Posted by: Ferg Nov 16 2018, 01:53 PM
The shifter knob looks like my 100.000 miles one.... and it is repainted, look at the driverside door opener...but still a nice car
Good catch on the door handle, didn't notice that.
Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 16 2018, 01:58 PM
I bet the odo doesnt work..I broke both of my 75 yr ...trying to reset while moving..just sayin..
very nice 914...
Posted by: ndfrigi Nov 16 2018, 02:01 PM
Neat and is only 255 numbers away from my 75 made in the same month.
It is 1004 vin numbers earlier on my previous 75 1.8 F.I. Now owned by a member (Stacey) from San Diego.
4752908923
Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 16 2018, 02:25 PM
I don't get the high dollar appeal of these "time capsule" cars.
It's a nice thing, but can you drive it? Afraid to put more miles on it? Will it go up in value? Is it an expensive paperweight?
With self driving cars now on the horizon, there may come a day that autonomous cars will be the norm and present day automobiles as we know them will be legislated (especially in Smog Nazi California) off of the roads. What then? What will these things be worth?
I'm enjoying my driving freedom while I can.
Not ranting, I'm just being realistic.
Posted by: Unpretentious Nov 16 2018, 02:32 PM
Well stated Lawrence!
Posted by: Andyrew Nov 16 2018, 02:43 PM
Not sure I understand why it wasnt completely detailed prior to auction pics...
It looks like its had a wash and wipe down...
Also take a look at the dr side headlight. that thing was removed at some point!
Posted by: Olympic 914 Nov 16 2018, 02:47 PM
I don't get the high dollar appeal of these "time capsule" cars.
It's a nice thing, but can you drive it? Afraid to put more miles on it? Will it go up in value? Is it an expensive paperweight?
With self driving cars now on the horizon, there may come a day that autonomous cars will be the norm and present day automobiles as we know them will be legislated (especially in Smog Nazi California) off of the roads. What then what will these things be worth?
I'm enjoying my driving freedom while I can.
Not ranting, I'm just being realistic.
There could be some well heeled collector out there that wants it because of the novelty / rarity. and it won't get driven much, but be a museum piece.
Posted by: Jamie Nov 16 2018, 03:11 PM
I have never seen this before
Also the front felt pad under the fuel tank hold down clamp is missing?
Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 16 2018, 03:15 PM
Car definitely spent some time outside. Bumper tops are sun damaged. Streaks on the rocker panels are under the door drains. Rust on the license plate bracket.
Plastic fresh air hoses. Indents in the dash vinyl where the stereo was mounted.
New vacuum hoses and fuel system cleaned, but no new miles..... 
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Nov 16 2018, 03:33 PM
yes I noticed the orange on the door latch seal, either buffing compound or paint work. Not very clean for 1200 miles that is for sure, but one can certainly believe the miles looking at the engine and interior. Hopefully someone will purchase who cares enough to return it to original perfection finding a nos front valance and original blower hoses
The shifter knob looks like my 100.000 miles one.... and it is repainted, look at the driverside door opener...but still a nice car
Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 16 2018, 04:09 PM
I have never seen this before
The work of a radiator shop boiling out the gas tank ?
Unfortunate location and very preventable.
They usually use a hatchet.
Also explains the missing pad on the hold-down strap.
Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 16 2018, 04:26 PM
I have never seen this before
The work of a radiator shop boiling out the gas tank ?
Unfortunate location and very preventable.
They usually use a hatchet.
Also explains the missing pad on the hold-down strap.
I thought that for a second or so, but the filler hole and the hole for the sender are there.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Nov 16 2018, 04:36 PM
I don't get the high dollar appeal of these "time capsule" cars.
You don't have to--someone out there does, most likely. I know that I'm not the person the car is for, because I would either thrash it to death or be too scared to drive it, but as they say there is a butt for every seat!
...
Not ranting, I'm just being realistic.
No, you are ranting.
Realistically, it will be quite a number of years before self-driving cars become the norm. Probably a couple of decades or more. And it will almost certainly take a while longer before the legislators can manage to pass a law removing human-driven cars from the roads, for a wide variety of reasons. I'm pretty sure that won't be happening before I'm dead or too old to enjoy driving. (I'm assuming that I will get Parkinson's like my mom and my grandpa.)
Even then, you'll still be able to take the car to a track or autocross event and thrash it. Which will still be very enjoyable.
--DD
Posted by: Amphicar770 Nov 16 2018, 05:21 PM
This will be bought by a 1 percenter who will park it next to the other pieces of jewelry, I mean cars, in his collection. His mistress will think it is cute. His accountant will ensure that the whole buying price is a write off paid for by the "middle class tax cut".
Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 16 2018, 06:08 PM
Realistically, it will be quite a number of years before self-driving cars become the norm. Probably a couple of decades or more. And it will almost certainly take a while longer before the legislators can manage to pass a law removing human-driven cars from the roads, for a wide variety of reasons. I'm pretty sure that won't be happening before I'm dead or too old to enjoy driving. (I'm assuming that I will get Parkinson's like my mom and my grandpa.)
Even then, you'll still be able to take the car to a track or autocross event and thrash it. Which will still be very enjoyable.
I think I was (semi-) ranting. 
I know you're right, at our age, we'll probably make it just under the line. Then things will get really weird.
Posted by: pete000 Nov 16 2018, 11:15 PM
Looks more like 101141 miles to me...
Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 17 2018, 07:34 AM
I have never seen this before
I have.
My bet is they had a bunch of tanks made up for gas heaters, the option didn't sell well and the factory welded it up to use up inventory.
That area is about the right spot for the GH fuel outlet bung, I've also see this done on VW bug tanks.
Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 17 2018, 07:40 AM
While we're picking this one apart, the protective cap for brake fluid reservoir is absent. Just like most 914s. Not to be confused with 914S. Smog Nazis...funny.
Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 17 2018, 07:45 AM
I have never seen this before
I have.
My bet is they had a bunch of tanks made up for gas heaters, the option didn't sell well and the factory welded it up to use up inventory.
That area is about the right spot for the GH fuel outlet bung, I've also see this done on VW bug tanks.
Thanks Mark, I learned something new.
Posted by: dcheek Nov 17 2018, 08:44 AM
Not sure I understand why it wasnt completely detailed prior to auction pics...
It looks like its had a wash and wipe down...
Also take a look at the dr side headlight. that thing was removed at some point!
It would take many hours of cleaning, polishing, removing parts to bring this car back to its glory days. In other words $$$$$$$$. Auction houses use "Barn Find" as a pass to ignore the necessary detailing.
Dave
Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 17 2018, 10:41 AM
Having lots of problems with this one.
Posted by: Front yard mechanic Nov 17 2018, 11:01 AM
Like most cars sent to the albuquerque market this one has some bastard things but overall a very nice well preserved example I wish it were mine 
Posted by: 914Next Nov 17 2018, 11:27 AM
While we're picking this one apart, the protective cap for brake fluid reservoir is absent. Just like most 914s. Not to be confused with 914S. Smog Nazis...funny.
There was never a protective cap that came from the factory was there?
Posted by: Valy Nov 17 2018, 12:10 PM
I found a few things strange, some already mentioned:
- missing interior light. Where did it go after 1200 miles?
- are the broken hot air hoses in the engine department original?
- I thought 75 had EGR lights on the gauges cluster. This one doesn't.
- It looks like the car had the radio recently removed as the vinyl still carries the imprint. Why was it removed?
Posted by: porschetub Nov 17 2018, 12:45 PM
No ,something isn't right with this one,we have all seen others with low mileage and they have all looked better than this one.
Posted by: JeffBowlsby Nov 17 2018, 02:13 PM
A 75-76 49-state car would not have the EGR or CAT dash lights, only the cars originally sold into the CA-market had these.
Posted by: Olympic 914 Nov 17 2018, 04:41 PM
No ,something isn't right with this one,we have all seen others with low mileage and they have all looked better than this one.
Probably none of us are going to be buying this thing. I'm interested in what price it brings. lets leave the issues to the new buyer and watch the show.
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 17 2018, 05:38 PM
No ,something isn't right with this one,we have all seen others with low mileage and they have all looked better than this one.
Probably none of us are going to be buying this thing. I'm interested in what price it brings. lets leave the issues to the new buyer and watch the show.
No harm in educated critiques.
Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 18 2018, 12:42 PM
my version....
He did buy it for his girl friend , she drove it ...fender bender ...got repaired ...he was so pissed he gave her his truck,, then dumped her....he drove it a bit but hated it ,,,, parked it ...
then dumped her..reality - she dumped him
kept it out of spite..realty- kept it in hope of her return
Posted by: preach Dec 9 2018, 09:35 AM
Any word on this auction?
Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 9 2018, 10:05 AM
Reportedly hammered fpr $70k.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2019, 11:33 AM
yes sir
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/ca18/the-petersen-automotive-museum-auction/lots/r0011-1975-porsche-914-20/724528
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 17 2019, 12:21 PM
SUPER WOW! 
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 17 2019, 01:15 PM
Holy smokes!
Posted by: MCShack Oct 7 2021, 12:49 PM
Looks like this '75 914 2.0L has been cleaned up a little with some minor repairs and is back on the auction block this week at RM SOTHEBY'S as a 1,141 mile New Mexico barn find, now in Rhode Island and showing only 1,310 miles. It sold for around $78k in Dec 2018 and they are expecting $60,000 - $80,000 USD this time being sold with same story as all original and stored in NM garage since 1975. The same questions still exist as brought up in this thread before about the paint overspray on the driver door handle, gas tank questions, radio hole in dash with no antennae, front spoiler, and a couple of other things.
New Auction Link with pics and documents:
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/1021/open-roads--october/lots/r0009-1975-porsche-914-20/1149754
1975 Porsche 914 2.0
$60,000 - $80,000 USD
United States | Middletown, Rhode Island
6 - 13 October 2021
Chassis No. 4752907927
New Mexico “barn find” preserved in storage for decades
Single ownership until 2018, when acquired by the consignor
Driven sparingly, with just over 1,300 miles showing on the odometer at cataloging time
Finished in Nepal Orange over black
Powered by a 2.0-liter flat four-cylinder paired with a four-speed manual transmission
Fuel pump replaced in 2020 along with other service
This Nepal Orange Porsche 914 2.0 “barn find” was driven less than 1,200 miles before being stored in a garage mere months after it was purchased by the original owner as a gift for a girlfriend at the time who hardly drove it. The car’s first registration was issued in Albuquerque, New Mexico on 4 August 1975. An accompanying receipt documents an oil change on 27 August 1975 at Don Zimmer Porsche at 999 miles. By the end of 1975, with only 1,141 miles on its odometer, the Porsche was parked in the owner’s garage, where it would remain for decades, until finally being offered for sale in 2018.
According to the accompanying window sticker, the car was optioned from the factory with tinted glass, an intermittent windshield wiper, and the “appearance group,” which consisted of a leatherette steering wheel, fog lights, dual-tone horn, center storage box with an armrest, leatherette boot for the gearshift, and center console with clock, oil temperature gauge, and a voltage meter. The MSRP was listed as $7,623.65.
Prior to being sold to the consignor in December 2018, the 914 was detailed and serviced, including flushing the fuel tank and replacing the fuel lines. The original tires were also replaced for safe driving.
Accompanying invoices from Elite Auto Repair in Warwick, Rhode Island, indicate that the current owner had the car’s fuel pump replaced in September 2020, along with having the tachometer repaired, the brake fluid flushed, the windshield washer system serviced, the oil changed, and the tires rotated.
With just over 1,300 miles showing on the odometer at cataloguing time, the car has been driving sparingly during its time in the consignor’s private collection. Preserved in exceptional condition thanks to its storage in a dry climate for so many years, this Porsche 914 2.0 retains its original manuals with vinyl folio, copies of the original title and registration, and a custom car cover.
Posted by: Jett Oct 7 2021, 01:45 PM
at these prices, a really nice one can go for $100K?
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Posted by: windforfun Oct 7 2021, 02:34 PM
Highly suspect!
Posted by: Arno914 Oct 7 2021, 03:20 PM
Those old odometers read only 5 digits. Figure the missing "1". 
"He did buy it for his girlfriend..." Yeah, right. 
Posted by: Jett Oct 7 2021, 04:18 PM
Those old odometers read only 5 digits. Figure the missing "1".
"He did buy it for his girlfriend..." Yeah, right.
Lol
Posted by: 930cabman Oct 7 2021, 04:23 PM
I don't get the high dollar appeal of these "time capsule" cars.
It's a nice thing, but can you drive it? Afraid to put more miles on it? Will it go up in value? Is it an expensive paperweight?
With self driving cars now on the horizon, there may come a day that autonomous cars will be the norm and present day automobiles as we know them will be legislated (especially in Smog Nazi California) off of the roads. What then? What will these things be worth?
I'm enjoying my driving freedom while I can.
Not ranting, I'm just being realistic.
Exactly, riding the wave of appreciating values, how long will it be until the bubble breaks, gas will no longer be available, all new cars are self driving e machines?
Posted by: mepstein Oct 7 2021, 05:02 PM
Paintings just hang on the wall. If someone wants it and they have the money, why not?
Posted by: davep Oct 7 2021, 05:22 PM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
Posted by: Jett Oct 7 2021, 06:27 PM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
The green 75 is mine
just comparing a highly restored car to the orange one.
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Posted by: MCShack Oct 8 2021, 10:31 AM
at these prices, a really nice one can go for $100K?It sold for $78k in Dec 2018 before it was cleaned up a little better. $100k might have been easier to get a couple of months ago but I'm not so sure today. I do believe the car is legit even with the couple of questions, there is just too much proof IMO.
The green car is very nice and I personally would rather buy it over the orange one.
Posted by: Jett Oct 8 2021, 06:34 PM
at these prices, a really nice one can go for $100K?It sold for $78k in Dec 2018 before it was cleaned up a little better. $100k might have been easier to get a couple of months ago but I'm not so sure today. I do believe the car is legit even with the couple of questions, there is just too much proof IMO.
The green car is very nice and I personally would rather buy it over the orange one.
Agreed and thanks. …at 80K we would break even
Posted by: 930cabman Oct 9 2021, 05:36 AM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
The green 75 is mine
just comparing a highly restored car to the orange one.Great looking ride, is it Palma?
Posted by: Jett Oct 9 2021, 09:38 AM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
The green 75 is mine
just comparing a highly restored car to the orange one.Great looking ride, is it Palma?
Yes, Palma Green 75 2.0. We bought her in great shape but went through a two year restoration to rebuild engine, tranny, suspension, brakes, minor rust in the trunk and lower passenger side firewall, and interior with all NOS carpet (thanks George).
Our 73 Delphi 2.0 car is in an over restored state, so we like driving the Palma car
The 77 911 is Coppa Florio Blue
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Posted by: 930cabman Oct 9 2021, 04:56 PM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
The green 75 is mine
just comparing a highly restored car to the orange one.Great looking ride, is it Palma?
Yes, Palma Green 75 2.0. We bought her in great shape but went through a two year restoration to rebuild engine, tranny, suspension, brakes, minor rust in the trunk and lower passenger side firewall, and interior with all NOS carpet (thanks George).
Our 73 Delphi 2.0 car is in an over restored state, so we like driving the Palma car
The 77 911 is Coppa Florio Blue
Great looking collection. I recently scored a '75 1.8 Palma from Cali, with EGR and CAT lights. Not much rust and from my short time in the 914 World she is a good basis. L95K was low production as far as I know.
Posted by: Jett Oct 9 2021, 05:03 PM
Why is it green underneath but Nepal Orange on top?
The green 75 is mine
just comparing a highly restored car to the orange one.Great looking ride, is it Palma?
Yes, Palma Green 75 2.0. We bought her in great shape but went through a two year restoration to rebuild engine, tranny, suspension, brakes, minor rust in the trunk and lower passenger side firewall, and interior with all NOS carpet (thanks George).
Our 73 Delphi 2.0 car is in an over restored state, so we like driving the Palma car
The 77 911 is Coppa Florio Blue
Great looking collection. I recently scored a '75 1.8 Palma from Cali, with EGR and CAT lights. Not much rust and from my short time in the 914 World she is a good basis. L95K was low production as far as I know.
Thanks!
Very cool. We also have a 75 1.8 from Thousand Oaks that we bought five years ago for $4K + shipping. We are making a six clone interpretation
. Let me know if you need any of the 1.8 specific parts.Cheers
Posted by: MCShack Oct 13 2021, 11:49 AM
at these prices, a really nice one can go for $100K?It sold for $78k in Dec 2018 before it was cleaned up a little better. $100k might have been easier to get a couple of months ago but I'm not so sure today. I do believe the car is legit even with the couple of questions, there is just too much proof IMO.
The green car is very nice and I personally would rather buy it over the orange one.
This car just sold for $60,000.00 at Sotheby's today.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/1021/open-roads--october/lots/r0009-1975-porsche-914-20/1149754
Posted by: pete000 Oct 13 2021, 04:37 PM
Seen nicer examples with 50 times more mileage...lol
Posted by: Jett Oct 13 2021, 05:45 PM
Seen nicer examples with 50 times more mileage...lol
Agreed. For me this car had too many unknowns.
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