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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Is this NOS Horn Pad?
Posted by: Mike Fitton Nov 29 2018, 07:45 PM
I got this horn pad in a lot with other Porsche parts. It still has its parts label on the back with 914.613.805.12 part number printed on it no date. The part number on the part itself is 914.613.805.0. I have never seen the small black gasket in place of the plunger before and it installs and comes out same way as the larger plunger. I am guessing this has never been installed since the label is still attached and it is in like new condition. Has anyone ever seen one with the label and small rubber gasket still in place?
Posted by: sithot Nov 29 2018, 07:59 PM
I have now. 
Posted by: Mike Fitton Nov 29 2018, 08:12 PM
Is the small rubber gasket installed for later cars that didn't use the plunger?
Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 30 2018, 07:46 AM
May just be a shipping plug. That certainly looks like a NOS find to me.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Nov 30 2018, 08:48 AM
Looks like someone used a power driver on the screws and over torque them, the slots have indents which could not be done by hand. I could picture someone at the dealer using a power driver to attach the hardware, Lol!
Posted by: sithot Nov 30 2018, 09:01 AM
Looks like someone used a power driver on the screws and over torque them, the slots have indents which could not be done by hand. I could picture someone at the dealer using a power driver to attach the hardware, Lol!
On slotted screws too.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Nov 30 2018, 09:04 AM
yes for all 73-76 914-4 models only
I got this horn pad in a lot with other Porsche parts. It still has its parts label on the back with 914.613.805.12 part number printed on it no date. The part number on the part itself is 914.613.805.0. I have never seen the small black gasket in place of the plunger before and it installs and comes out same way as the larger plunger. I am guessing this has never been installed since the label is still attached and it is in like new condition. Has anyone ever seen one with the label and small rubber gasket still in place?
Posted by: bbrock Nov 30 2018, 11:31 AM
Looks like someone used a power driver on the screws and over torque them, the slots have indents which could not be done by hand. I could picture someone at the dealer using a power driver to attach the hardware, Lol!
On slotted screws too.
The screws on the horn pads of all three cars I've owned looked like that. The heads are pretty soft. Wouldn't surprise me if the factory used a power driver to speed assembly. I doubt they were as concerned as we are about the condition of screw heads.
I think these pics should be added to the nailed Interiors thread in the O&H forum. Nice reference pics. Just a couple weeks ago I was looking for pics to see how black these pads were originally.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Nov 30 2018, 11:41 AM
the main problem with the 73-76 horn pad was the pesky horn plate with small male clip that held the horn wire, they often broke as the wire was tricky to install and then clip on the pad. We actually ran totally out of good used ones, and the early cars 70-71 had a different plate. We finally had it made with a reinforced clip, works great and has solved a nagging problem
Posted by: sithot Nov 30 2018, 11:45 AM
If you must use a impact driver OR want complete control on a slotted screw you need "carb" type sockets. Never slip off and work well in "blind" locations.
Posted by: johnhora Nov 30 2018, 01:00 PM
If you must use a impact driver OR want complete control on a slotted screw you need "carb" type sockets. Never slip off and work well in "blind" locations.
The things we learn here...never seen one of those sockets ...looks like a Snap-on piece is that correct
Posted by: sithot Nov 30 2018, 05:11 PM
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If you must use a impact driver OR want complete control on a slotted screw you need "carb" type sockets. Never slip off and work well in "blind" locations.
The things we learn here...never seen one of those sockets ...looks like a Snap-on piece is that correct
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Yes; they make 3 sizes. Work like a charm. For carb tuning but they're also handy for Norma Clamps and the like in tight areas because they won't slip off.
Posted by: 914forme Nov 30 2018, 07:14 PM
Never new these existed, and now they are heading for my tool box.
Posted by: worn Nov 30 2018, 08:16 PM
Never new these existed, and now they are heading for my tool box. Like at Home Depot and garage sales? They work, but it seems like Phillips is more better.
Posted by: sithot Nov 30 2018, 09:05 PM
Like at Home Depot and garage sales? They work, but it seems like Phillips is more better.
No Phillips screws on my Weber or PMO carbs.
Posted by: Valy Nov 30 2018, 09:38 PM
Like at Home Depot and garage sales? They work, but it seems like Phillips is more better.
No Phillips screws on my Weber or PMO carbs.
Adjustment screws are usually slotted to allow for easier visual position tracking
Posted by: StarBear Dec 10 2018, 07:56 AM
Sweet find! We should all be so lucky.
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