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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Brutus the 916 going to Paris in February
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 18 2018, 02:51 PM
Brutus is soon on its way to Paris for the retro automobile extravaganza and will be featured in the auction there. Some lucky person or organization will be the new owner
https://www.retromobile.com
Here are some interesting facts provided by its present owner:
The folowing are some important dates of history for the documentation of Brutus :
Original service date per Kraftfahrzeugbrief is February 11. 1971 with registration license LEO ZC1
Brutus was owned by Porsche and driven by Corina Piesch until the car was sold on April 29, 1974 to
Colonel Robert E. Hartvigsen for 27,500 DM
Brutus remained in Germany with Colonel Hartvigsen and was returned to the Porsche factory in late 1977 for a engine and transmission rebuild together with suspension rebuild and other repairs . An 5 page Porsche factory invoice dated January 19, 1978 outlines the factory rebuild at a total cost of 12,649 DM.
It is believed that in April 1978 Brutus was exported by the Colonel( who had been discharged from the military with the completion of his duty ) to America .
The importation and registration documentation would indicate that on June 23 1978 application was submitted for importation approval to the Department of Transportation in Washington DC USA. The approval was granted and the first American registration was granted in October 1978.
Brutus remained with the Colonel until his passing and was then stored for many years before being purchased and completely restored by the current owner.
Brutus has been displayed at
Amelia Island Concours
Porsche Noth America Headquarters Atlanta Ga
Petersen Museum Special Porsche Collection Los Angeles , California
Feature story in Porsche Panorama Magazine
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 18 2018, 02:52 PM
maybe we should have a chat about how much the car will bring and then have a nice prize for the person who guesses closest
Posted by: mb911 Dec 18 2018, 03:38 PM
That is very cool story.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 18 2018, 05:13 PM
I just noticed that the irregular factory seats in Brutus match the ones in the 914-6 prototype. Notice the longer seat cushion and the higher headrest.
Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 18 2018, 07:52 PM
Shouldn’t we merge this with the same thread from November 
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 18 2018, 09:13 PM
We saw Brutus over at the Pete last month...NOT upstairs with the "Porsche Effect" among the other real bitchin examples of P cars; but downstairs in the Petersen Vault. The vault is a mish-mosh of oddities, the 916 (dusty, looking unkept) was there parked in a dark corner wedged in between sedans. The Docen verbally reminded us that you may not take photos, nor walk past the front bumper of the 916. He was very helpful with his 916 knowledge; I never knew that it was 8 cyl powered (he wouldn't listen to reason) 
So I did get an eyeful of it, even dusty it is a Gem 
I was accompanied by a good friend that currently owns Sonauto # 40 9146gt; a few of his past cars were Kremer 935, 906, 924 gtr...so he was especially surprised by the Darwinian tour guide's lack of smarts 
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 19 2018, 09:31 AM
yes very good idea.
Shouldn’t we merge this with the same thread from November
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 19 2018, 09:31 AM
glamour shots
https://rgamediaservices.zenfolio.com/p11463844/ec0b9b07c
Posted by: GregAmy Dec 19 2018, 09:43 AM
glamour shots
"Content protected with password"
Posted by: GeorgeRud Dec 19 2018, 09:52 AM
I wonder if they used a Scheel 114 seat as the basis as I seem to remember it also had a similar bottom?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 19 2018, 11:25 AM
sorry use mattmcswain to access
glamour shots
"Content protected with password"
Posted by: jd74914 Dec 19 2018, 12:07 PM
No engine or underbody shots.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 19 2018, 01:25 PM
Posted by: Bulldozer27 Dec 19 2018, 09:39 PM
Sorry, wrong thread
Posted by: Cal Dec 19 2018, 10:12 PM
Will there be a reserve set on the auction?....if so, how much?
Posted by: 914forme Dec 19 2018, 10:35 PM
the 100 liter fuel tank, space saver spare mount and oil cooler shroud 
Posted by: Mueller Dec 19 2018, 11:40 PM
Hope the Yellow vest protestors stay away from there!
Posted by: EdwardBlume Dec 20 2018, 07:28 AM
What a cool car! My guess is $875,000
Posted by: GregAmy Dec 21 2018, 09:21 AM
Since this is the latest thread on this car (prior ones linked below), and I did not see it mentioned...
I am wicked behind on magazines, had a foot-high-plus stack next to the dresser. Since absolutely nothing is going on at work today, decided to catch up.
And what do I see in the August 2018 issue of Porsche Panorama? A full-length article on Brutus. Well done with nice pics.
Article (PCA membership required):
https://www.pca.org/pca-login/digital-pano/1010189
Prior threads
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=334334
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=302729
http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=437219
Posted by: Lucky9146 Dec 21 2018, 11:25 AM
Had the rare opportunity to take pictures at Peterson in the vault. Unfortunately I was unable to get any better pictures than this as it was stuffed back in a corner and we were not allowed to walk between cars. But none the less saw it in person and will likely never see it again. We arrived late to the tour due to the wonderful LA traffic and went about snapping pics with no real time to talk with docents. Glad this thread was posted and appreciate GregAmy taking the time to list the other threads for handy reference.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 28 2018, 09:37 AM
Chassis n° 9141430195
- Factory-designed unique prototype
- The only Porsche 916 to be fitted with a 2.9L RSR engine from new
- Owned by Porsche for Corina Piëch’s use
- Exceptional restoration
€
The Prototype for the 916, car used by Corina Piëch
1971 Porsche 916 prototype "Brutus"
"Brutus" : the explanation for the rather provocative name lies under the rear bootlid of this very special Porsche : an experimental flat-six 2.9-litre, mid-positioned factory engine, capable of over 300 bhp. It was given the nickname by Corina Piëch, whose father, Ferdinand Piëch, (Ferry Porsche’s nephew), was very involved in the development of touring and competition Porsche at that time, including the 917. This prototype car was designed with the aim of adding the power the 914 lacked, to compete with mid-engined sports cars like the Dino 246 GT. This also risked upsetting the 911’s career which was under threat at that time.
Brutus was the first prototype model of 11 cars built for this purpose. Although the cars used the 914/6 bodyshell (a model limited to 2-litres), everything else was heavily modified. Brutus was the only 916 to be equipped with a factory 2.9-litre injection RSR engine, whilst the other ten cars were given a 2.4-litre 911S engine. For this reason, a rev counter graduated to 10,000 rpm was installed and the car received a more sophisticated lubrication system. Brutus was also the only Porsche 916 to be given an 85-litre competition fuel tank. The others had a 100-litre tank positioned at the front that required strengthening bars. To add extra rigidity, the Targa roof was welded to the body.
Ultimately, this experiment by Ferdinand Piëch didn’t lead anywhere, probably because the car’s performance was so close to that of the 911. However, this first factory owned prototype remained in the family, given to Corina Piëch for her personal use. She drove it around for a few years, and had the interior modified several times by Tony Lapine’s design department.
In April 1974, this unusual car was sold for the sum of 27 500 DM to Colonel Robert E. Hartvigsen, then stationed with the Canadian forces in Lahr, Germany. In 1978, Brutus was sent back to the factory for a major overhaul of the running gear and suspension. Work was carried out to the engine and gearbox at the same time (Porsche invoice of 12 649 DM). In April 1978, when Colonel Hartvigsen’s assignment came to an end, Brutus was exported to the US, and the car was first registered in America in October 1978.
A Porsche certificate, dated 29 April 1974, states that this 916 was a « limited production model : less than 10 vehicles of this model were built between 1971 and 1972. » It also indicates that « the reason this car has a 914-6 chassis number is that the standard body of a 914-6 was used to build this original prototype. »
When the Colonel died, the car remained in storage for a number of years before being discovered by a big US collector, who sold it to the current owner, a serious enthusiast of Porsche competition cars. At that time, the odometer was at 46 000 km and the car was in poor condition. The presence of rust and some bad repairs necessitated a full body-off restoration and re-spray, which was carried out to the highest standards. Major mechanical work was also required, which was complex because of the particular engine and transmission. This work was carried out with the help of Drew Slaton (renowned US specialist for Porsche RSR). The owner also called on other specialists including Jürgen Barth and George Hussey, the great 914 expert who owned another 916 which was used as a model. For the interior, certain materials were sourced in Germany in order to maintain the car’s authenticity.
The work took three years and once finished, this Porsche 916 was presented at the Amelia Island concours d'élégance in March 2017. It was then exhibited at Porsche’s North American Headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia, for six months before being included in the marque retrospective at the superb Petersen Museum in Los Angeles.
The car is presented in exceptional condition today, thanks to its particularly thorough and careful restoration. It is a unique piece in Porsche history and a milestone in the marque’s evolution. It benefits from having transparent history and has been owned and driven by a member of the Porsche family. This is a car with a performance that was exceptional in its day. It will open doors for its new owner to all of the most prestigious historic events around the world.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 28 2018, 10:21 AM
can anyone spot the mistake in this brief history (besides giving me any credit!!! LOL)
Posted by: 73-914 Dec 28 2018, 10:32 AM
We all know there are 11 of them
Posted by: pete000 Dec 28 2018, 11:09 AM
Wonder if Seinfeld will buy it?
Posted by: Andyrew Dec 28 2018, 11:24 AM
Anyone else think this will be the first 7 figure 914?
Posted by: Gustl Dec 28 2018, 11:52 AM
"The others had a 100-litre tank …"
"Corina Piëch, whose father, Ferdinand Piëch"
Posted by: jdamiano Dec 28 2018, 01:03 PM
George, Didn’t I read someplace that your 916 was built off a white 4 not a 6?
Posted by: dlkawashima Dec 28 2018, 01:48 PM
"The others had a 100-litre tank …"
"Corina Piëch, whose father, Ferdinand Piëch"
Yes, Corina Piëch was born in 1960 according to the Porsche family tree, so the Corina that owned Brutus had to be Piëch's first wife, Corina von Planta.
Even more irritating, the Panorama article also gets it wrong, along with calling the 914-6 "swollen fendered." Seriously doubt that Pete Stout would ever let these obvious mistakes make it to print.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 28 2018, 01:51 PM
as usual you got it!
"The others had a 100-litre tank …"
"Corina Piëch, whose father, Ferdinand Piëch"
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 28 2018, 01:52 PM
yes all of the 916s were built from white four cylinders except brutus
George, Didn’t I read someplace that your 916 was built off a white 4 not a 6?
Posted by: mountainroads Dec 28 2018, 01:56 PM
can anyone spot the mistake in this brief history (besides giving me any credit!!! LOL)
Not a "mistake" per se, but all 916s had the Targa top welded on. The way this is written is a little confusing, suggesting that Brutus was unique in this aspect.
- MR
Posted by: jdamiano Dec 28 2018, 02:00 PM
yes all of the 916s were built from white four cylinders except brutus
George, Didn’t I read someplace that your 916 was built off a white 4 not a 6?
Since the write up said they were all built off 914/6 shells next time I’m in Atlanta I will stop by and pick up my prize.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Dec 28 2018, 02:26 PM
I believe that some of the cars were also built with 2.7 RS engines.
--DD
Posted by: ctc911ctc Dec 28 2018, 03:25 PM
Was at The Pete on the 24th, my 'vault' (really a parking garage basement) tour guide was a Porsche guy, wish Brutus was still there.
We saw Brutus over at the Pete last month...NOT upstairs with the "Porsche Effect" among the other real bitchin examples of P cars; but downstairs in the Petersen Vault. The vault is a mish-mosh of oddities, the 916 (dusty, looking unkept) was there parked in a dark corner wedged in between sedans. The Docen verbally reminded us that you may not take photos, nor walk past the front bumper of the 916. He was very helpful with his 916 knowledge; I never knew that it was 8 cyl powered (he wouldn't listen to reason)
So I did get an eyeful of it, even dusty it is a Gem I was accompanied by a good friend that currently owns Sonauto # 40 9146gt; a few of his past cars were Kremer 935, 906, 924 gtr...so he was especially surprised by the Darwinian tour guide's lack of smarts Posted by: Gustl Dec 28 2018, 03:40 PM
I agree with the white "L 80 E"
but, how would you explain, that the Karmann body number indicates, that all 916 have a 914-6 shell (1310433 up to 1310442) ??
Posted by: mepstein Dec 28 2018, 04:17 PM
I agree with the white "L 80 E"
but, how would you explain, that the Karmann body number indicates, that all 916 have a 914-6 shell (1310433 up to 1310442) ??
I thought they were 4 chassis that were stamped by Porsche with a six vin. But it’s been years since I read the article so I might be imagining it.
Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 28 2018, 04:45 PM
George, what year was it when the lastest restoration started?
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 28 2018, 07:07 PM
Since the Karmann body number was stamped in at Karmann, they could have stamped them anything they wanted.
It's not too hard to imagine that someone at Porsche asked Karmann to deliver 10 white shells stamped with a certain number range or maybe even blank with no numbers.
After all, Karmann did have "body in white" shells at the time that didn't have any stampings.
Posted by: Freezin 914 Dec 29 2018, 12:03 AM
When was Brutus in Panorama?
Posted by: smg914 Dec 29 2018, 12:33 AM
When was Brutus in Panorama?
August 2018. A good article that describes a fraction of the effort it took to get Brutus restored and ready for Amelia Island.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 29 2018, 09:44 AM
George, what year was it when the lastest restoration started?
2015 is when it came to the body shop from South Carolina. Here is a picture, it was much worse than it looks here:
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 29 2018, 09:44 AM
noticed how it was americanized" with the side markers
Posted by: mountainroads Dec 29 2018, 12:52 PM
I believe that some of the cars were also built with 2.7 RS engines.
--DD
I wondered about that too and almost pointed it out, but I believe the truth is that all (except Brutus) shipped with 2.4 S engines and some were later retrofitted with 2.7 RS engines. Hoping one of the experts here will clarify.
- MR
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 29 2018, 03:12 PM
none came with the 2.7 as of course it was not even available in 1972. However several went back to the factory and were retrofitted with the 2.7 engines.
I believe that some of the cars were also built with 2.7 RS engines.
--DD
I wondered about that too and almost pointed it out, but I believe the truth is that all (except Brutus) shipped with 2.4 S engines and some were later retrofitted with 2.7 RS engines. Hoping one of the experts here will clarify.
- MR
Posted by: mountainroads Dec 29 2018, 08:34 PM
none came with the 2.7 as of course it was not even available in 1972. However several went back to the factory and were retrofitted with the 2.7 engines.
I believe that some of the cars were also built with 2.7 RS engines.
--DD
I wondered about that too and almost pointed it out, but I believe the truth is that all (except Brutus) shipped with 2.4 S engines and some were later retrofitted with 2.7 RS engines. Hoping one of the experts here will clarify.
- MR
Thanks George! Confirms what I thought: 916s were built with 2341 cc (2.4L) 1972 MFI 911S engine (Ludvigsen p594). I read somewhere else that several had gone back for retrofit to 2.7L RS (MFI) engines.
- MR
Posted by: cgh Jan 4 2019, 07:19 AM
When you go to the Retromobile link, there is no listing of the cars that will be up for sale? Have also tried searching through Artcurial. Anyone know how to see the listing for Brutus and the rest of the auction?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 12 2019, 03:02 PM
the auction catalog
https://issuu.com/artcurialbpt/docs/3888?e=6268161/12789934
Posted by: burton73 Jan 12 2019, 03:30 PM
George,
Thanks for this. The catalog has some great cars. The catalog would make a very nice coffee table book.
Bob B
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 12 2019, 04:46 PM
Wow- that is definitely a catalogue worth looking through. Lots of nice stuff for sure. Thanks for posting the link. 
Posted by: EdwardBlume Jan 14 2019, 07:30 AM
Well worth inspection. I feel like I should have paid $$$ to view that.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 28 2019, 10:48 AM
nice hemmings motor news article on Brutus, the car is in Paris now:
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2019/01/28/brutus-the-original-porsche-916-prototype-may-have-re-written-sports-car-history/?refer=news
Posted by: struckn Jan 28 2019, 11:15 AM
Hemmings On Line today has a write up on Brutus going to auction and it's history.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 28 2019, 01:40 PM
$1.3million is my star gazing guesstimate 
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 28 2019, 01:40 PM
dup
Posted by: flipb Jan 28 2019, 03:02 PM
Lowball, I'm going with €650.000... that's close to $745K.
Posted by: dyckster Jan 28 2019, 04:38 PM
I went to the Pete when the porsche display was there. Came a long way to see it but it was well worth it. Kids didn't want to stick around for the vault, and my wife asks where is the 914. We both figured there should be one teener. Had no idea that this was in the basement, probably my one and only chance to see it too. If I had to guess, 550k us.
P.s. I would love to have a poster of this car and specs for my wall. I doubt it exists tho
Posted by: EdwardBlume Jan 29 2019, 02:24 PM
Changing mine to 1.2MM USD. Leno or Seinfeld? Someone knows what this car is worth....
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 29 2019, 04:26 PM
April 2010, my how times have changed!
Posted by: GregAmy Jan 29 2019, 05:49 PM
April 2010, my how times have changed!
Well, let's be fair: this particular VIN has provenance. If it wasn't *this* car I don't think we'd be talking close to these kinda numbers.
I'm surprised Porsche hasn't tried to acquire it for the museum.
Posted by: mountainroads Jan 30 2019, 09:32 AM
April 2010, my how times have changed!
And prior to that, it was available at dealership in San Fran. Late 2005 or early 2006? I believe the ask at the time was something like $175k, although I think it actually moved for more than that. Not certain on the precise details. Please feel free to correct me. if wrong. I briefly considered, but heard about it too late to seriously act. Scroll down in the link below to see the pics at the time.
https://www.carsauto.com/1972-porsche-916-c-315.htm
- MR
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 31 2019, 11:24 AM
aint no Brutus
Posted by: mountainroads Jan 31 2019, 01:24 PM
aint no Brutus
True, but it's a genuine 916 and there aren't many data points. Apologies if the point was unclear.
- MR
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 31 2019, 01:32 PM
aint no Brutus
True, but it's a genuine 916 and there aren't many data points. Apologies if the point was unclear.
- MR
your correct , Brutus has a more lustrous past
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 31 2019, 01:59 PM
that was the old Jerry Leonard car, and I agree, no real providence except being a 916. Think that the Peter Gregg Brumos car we has some though
aint no Brutus
Posted by: GregAmy Jan 31 2019, 02:41 PM
that was the old Jerry Leonard car, and I agree, no real providence except being a 916.
Even though I kinda mentioned something toward that earlier up...I still found myself chuckling at a casual comment about a friggin teener going for "only $330,000"...
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 31 2019, 04:25 PM
you make me laugh, Greg. We will see next Friday in Paris. could set a 914 world record, I will report back
that was the old Jerry Leonard car, and I agree, no real providence except being a 916.
Even though I kinda mentioned something toward that earlier up...I still found myself chuckling at a causal comment about a friggin teener going for "only $330,000"...
Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 31 2019, 04:44 PM
I thought the described "body off restoration" misnomer was the gaffe.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 31 2019, 05:31 PM
Here we go, one writers's opinion!
http://www.westside-59.com/Worlds-12-Rarest-Cars.htm
Posted by: mountainroads Jan 31 2019, 09:22 PM
that was the old Jerry Leonard car, and I agree, no real providence except being a 916. Think that the Peter Gregg Brumos car we has some though
aint no Brutus
You guys are funny fellas. As if being a genuine 916 isn't special enough. Agreed that Brutus is a truly unique example of a very rare model. Auction results will be very interesting.
BTW I read the "author's opinion article". Almost all of those prices seem wildly optimistic to me, but hey - just my opinion.
- MR
Posted by: Cal Feb 1 2019, 06:12 AM
Is Brutus being sold at no reserve?
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 1 2019, 07:48 AM
#1
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 1 2019, 12:23 PM
yes no reserve.
Is Brutus being sold at no reserve?
Posted by: zulu33 Feb 1 2019, 12:40 PM
Sorry for disturbing your dreams but did anybody see the RSR engine? On the pics there are only MFI or carb engines. No twin spark, no megaphones – no output. Is the engine still in process?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 4 2019, 02:41 PM
Well it is Monday Feb 4 and we are leaving for Paris later today, please wish Brutus luck in his auction to "fetch" the highest price of any 914 ever, if so it will certainly benefit all of us 914 owners.
So I will be off the phones for ten days, if you need me just e mail.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 4 2019, 02:49 PM
here is a link if you want to keep track of the auction:
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1971-porsche-916-prototype-brutus-2DC4A7FAD2
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 4 2019, 02:54 PM
Sorry for disturbing your dreams but did anybody see the RSR engine? On the pics there are only MFI or carb engines. No twin spark, no megaphones – no output. Is the engine still in process?
Same question they are asking on the Hemmings Motors comments section (online ) a couple days ago
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 4 2019, 02:59 PM
Well it is Monday Feb 4 and we are leaving for Paris later today, please wish Brutus luck in his auction to "fetch" the highest price of any 914 ever, if so it will certainly benefit all of us 914 owners.
So I will be off the phones for ten days, if you need me just e mail.
So George, if a USA person wins the bid price...does this car come back to the states with a bill of sale, Stateside duty fees, or does it still retain the title/ pink slip (note: simple title transfer) from the USA owner that is selling this car in France??
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 4 2019, 03:04 PM
it will come back duty free, Marty. Also the import duties have been paid in Europe so the European buyer will not suffer either.
Well it is Monday Feb 4 and we are leaving for Paris later today, please wish Brutus luck in his auction to "fetch" the highest price of any 914 ever, if so it will certainly benefit all of us 914 owners.
So I will be off the phones for ten days, if you need me just e mail.
So George, if a USA person wins the bid price...does this car come back to the states with a bill of sale, Stateside duty fees, or does it still retain the title/ pink slip (note: simple title transfer) from the USA owner that is selling this car in France??
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 4 2019, 06:53 PM
Funny that importation duties have been paid prior to knowing what the value of the car is. Given the pedigree/history, loopholes must have been found.
Posted by: Ferg Feb 8 2019, 12:50 PM
Looks like it went for 800k EUR so about 905k usd.
Posted by: Cal Feb 8 2019, 12:50 PM
Sold for $905,000.00 plus buyers fee.....
Posted by: wndsrfr Feb 8 2019, 01:10 PM
Sold for $905,000.00 plus buyers fee.....
Well bought.....Hey George, now you can take the wife to Disney World for a week or so!
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 8 2019, 01:39 PM
Damn I was hoping it would hit 1M.
Still great news for 914 owners everywhere!
Posted by: Cal Feb 8 2019, 01:49 PM
Damn I was hoping it would hit 1M.
Still great news for 914 owners everywhere!
I believe it did with the 16% buyers fee....all-in it sold for $1,096,640.00
https://www.classic-car-auctions.info/european/paris/2019-artcurial-paris-retromobile-sale-auction-results/
Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 8 2019, 03:21 PM
Wonder who got it....I guess we'll find out if it's seen in the Porsche Museum or in known hangouts of Jerry
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 8 2019, 03:22 PM
So...do you stare at it or drive it?
Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 8 2019, 03:22 PM
A piece of Porsche history, and a bit of what could have possibly been.
Posted by: mountainroads Feb 8 2019, 03:34 PM
Sold for $905,000.00 plus buyers fee.....
And as they say, the market has spoken. That opinionated writer might want to readjust his opinion ( http://www.westside-59.com/Worlds-12-Rarest-Cars.htm ):
Posted by: charliew Feb 8 2019, 05:10 PM
about all I can afford are the knockoff bumpers.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 8 2019, 06:35 PM
Dr. Wonderful owned the car ?
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 8 2019, 06:50 PM
that statement is misleading the cumulative sales are ....is what it could be.. wrong..
Posted by: twash Feb 14 2019, 12:44 PM
that statement is misleading the cumulative sales are ....is what it could be.. wrong..
sets a new level for 914-6 cars, wonder what it will do for the other unique/ special 914-6"s
Posted by: Craigers17 Feb 14 2019, 03:50 PM
So anyone know who the new owner is?
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 14 2019, 03:52 PM
that statement is misleading the cumulative sales are ....is what it could be.. wrong..
sets a new level for 914-6 cars, wonder what it will do for the other unique/ special 914-6"s
I wonder if the owner of the prototype will finally find a buyer for it?
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 14 2019, 04:15 PM
that statement is misleading the cumulative sales are ....is what it could be.. wrong..
sets a new level for 914-6 cars, wonder what it will do for the other unique/ special 914-6"s
I wonder if the owner of the prototype will finally find a buyer for it?
Its probably still under a tarp at moms house...
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 14 2019, 04:27 PM
that statement is misleading the cumulative sales are ....is what it could be.. wrong..
sets a new level for 914-6 cars, wonder what it will do for the other unique/ special 914-6"s
I wonder if the owner of the prototype will finally find a buyer for it?
Its probably still under a tarp at moms house...
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 14 2019, 04:34 PM
DR AA visted 2015...from the club site..
The nephew took the site down a couple of years ago, the car now sits in a cramped back yard under a camouflage net
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 15 2019, 10:00 AM
$200? Which vehicle is being discussed?
Posted by: mepstein Feb 15 2019, 10:24 AM
$200? Which vehicle is being discussed?
914 prototype. The one B**d tried to steal.
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 15 2019, 10:32 AM
Oh, #4. I saw it when we were in Campbell. See thru pans.
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 15 2019, 11:25 AM
$200? Which vehicle is being discussed?
914 prototype. The one B**d tried to steal.
Allegedly..
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 15 2019, 11:31 AM
$200? Which vehicle is being discussed?
914 prototype. The one B**d tried to steal.
Allegedly..
dont bring it here,,but read it on rennlist, quite a story/truth
Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 15 2019, 11:33 AM
I hope Brutus is at the 50 914 Porsche Museum show with June 2 featuring 120 914, 914/6's.
Hopefully I might see this 916 for a second time....
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM
well I am back, everything went great, actually went to Lemans too, the racing shop of French driver Yves Courage who raced the 24 hours 30 times. Had a 962 and a gt 40 there.
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 16 2019, 12:57 PM
the sale of this 916 is great for the value of all of our 914s, as it is the most any 914 type has ever sold for and establishes a new high water mark for the cars.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 16 2019, 01:04 PM
members of the 914 club in France, they actually represented Porsche at the show, with two 914s this one the sonauto clone
Posted by: Craigers17 Feb 16 2019, 01:10 PM
members of the 914 club in France, they actually represented Porsche at the show, with two 914s this one the sonauto clone
So who bought Brutus?....or is there some kind of gag order on this thing?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 16 2019, 02:19 PM
they have actually not released the name yet.
members of the 914 club in France, they actually represented Porsche at the show, with two 914s this one the sonauto clone
So who bought Brutus?....or is there some kind of gag order on this thing?
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 16 2019, 02:53 PM
members of the 914 club in France, they actually represented Porsche at the show, with two 914s this one the sonauto clone
Bonjour Mssr Hussey et Mssr Renaud
Posted by: 9146GUY Feb 28 2019, 09:35 AM
Rumor has it that Jerry Seinfield bought Brutus......
Anyone confirm?
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 28 2019, 10:06 AM
Anyone confirm?
next episode;
Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
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Posted by: KSCarrera Feb 28 2019, 11:51 AM
Artcurial tell me it is remaining in the USA... Shame for us, good for you guys! :-)
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 28 2019, 04:44 PM
Brutus is coming back to the U S yes, we should know the owner shortly. I had contacted several heavy hitters about the car in advance, one in particular wanted to purchase my 916 but I turned them on to Brutus instead, When I know I will let everyone know
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 28 2019, 04:44 PM
another 916 in England, finally Crispin has put the car back together somewhat!
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Posted by: KSCarrera Mar 1 2019, 05:31 AM
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 1 2019, 10:35 AM
don't think so!...............
Rumor has it that Jerry Seinfield bought Brutus......
Anyone confirm?
Posted by: mountainroads Mar 1 2019, 11:57 AM
Rumor has it that Jerry Seinfield bought Brutus......
Anyone confirm?
Jerry's a little preoccupied at the moment
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/02/26/seinfeld-suing-dealer-sold-him-fake-porsche-356
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 1 2019, 12:02 PM
yup would make me have a bad taste about buying any classic porsche anymore
Rumor has it that Jerry Seinfield bought Brutus......
Anyone confirm?
Jerry's a little preoccupied at the moment
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/02/26/seinfeld-suing-dealer-sold-him-fake-porsche-356
Posted by: mepstein Mar 1 2019, 12:24 PM
Rumor has it that Jerry Seinfield bought Brutus......
Anyone confirm?
Jerry's a little preoccupied at the moment
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/02/26/seinfeld-suing-dealer-sold-him-fake-porsche-356
Maybe his lawyer is but I bet he is barely involved.
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Posted by: johannes Apr 11 2019, 09:26 AM
Hey, I am on the picture too 
. This was great to meet you George. Hope I will be able to visit you in Atlanta one day...
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members of the 914 club in France, they actually represented Porsche at the show, with two 914s this one the sonauto clone
Posted by: johannes Apr 11 2019, 09:31 AM
The video I filmed during the auction... George is sitting a few rows in front of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 11 2019, 11:08 AM
The video I filmed during the auction... George is sitting a few rows in front of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
George awesome sale, the winning buyer got a good piece of Porsche history...but those 3 dudes rushing up to push the car would make for an excellent Mime act in Vegas
. So did this car wind up overseas OR back here in the States ?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Apr 11 2019, 12:51 PM
back in the states,. Marty, still waiting to get the name of the buyer, we think that we have an idea, guy had a car parked next to Brutus at Amelia a couple of years ago
The video I filmed during the auction... George is sitting a few rows in front of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUfb82Gl-g
George awesome sale, the winning buyer got a good piece of Porsche history...but those 3 dudes rushing up to push the car would make for an excellent Mime act in Vegas
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