My father had a 1927 Model T and a 1952 MG TD when I was growing up. They sat in the barn and he would always say “I’m going to rebuild them” “We’ll start on them soon”. Well that never happened. They sat for many years and we only drove the MG once and it blew an oil line and was parked. He sold the cars when he moved to Florida. I decided then that I would never have a classic car project that I didn’t have the ways or means to complete it.
A few years ago, my father was diagnosed with dementia and it has gotten progressively worse. He still talks about the cars and wonders what they would be worth if he still had them. We look up prices and he just say’s “shoulda kept them”. This is a weekly occurrence. Dementia sucks, but because everything is new to him, he’s the happiest guy I know. Give him a cold beer and he'll tell you he hasn't had one in years and how good it tastes. It really sucks for my mom and the rest of us to see him like this and to have to watch him constantly.
Last April I started disassembly of my 72 914. I have since replaced the inner passenger long, inner wheelhouse, inner and outer firewalls, passenger engine mount and suspension mount, tunnel, floor boards, battery tray, seat hinges etc. At least once a week I have my mom and dad over for dinner and I always take him out to the garage to show him the car. He always seems amazed that I’m doing it and it’s always the “first” time he’s seen it. After a few months of showing him the car something happened and he started asking to see it before I showed him. He remembered my car. Then he would say “you gotta take me for a ride when your done”. Talk about motivation! I have since sped up the build working 10 hour days every weekend. Week nights are spent researching, planning and buying. I even took 10 days off from work and did nothing but work on this car during my time off. My wife is a saint.
My plan was to post photos of the build as others have here and was planning on taking 2 years to get to the point I am now. Now the only plan I have is to finish it before he forgets everything. So, I haven’t even taken many photos of before during and after. I just get in there to get it done. However, I’m not skimping on quality.
Many of you have assisted in this build, so far, whether you knew it or not. From the build threads to directly answered questions and purchases I have made from members; the assistance is greatly appreciated. I’ve called some of you about parts, engines and other items to purchase and may have sounded like I was interested and then either didn’t respond or just emailed you saying I found something else. I hope I haven’t offended or put anyone off in any way by doing this. I just have to make decisions quickly and I always have the unknown time frame in my mind. So, if I have left you hanging without a response, I apologize. And thank you to everyone here for the assistance thus far. I’m sure I will have lot’s of questions as I enter phase II.
Hopefully it will be in the body shop for paint in March and I’ll start all of the other part reconditioning for the assembly when she returns.
I Can’t wait to take my dad for that ride!
Go for it!
Best of luck with the car and with your dad! Dementia is challenging at the best of times... I hope you both get a lot of joy out of the drive once you finish it up!
--DD
Okay. I'll post some photos soon. I have before and after. Not many during or showing the actual work.
Good luck with the build - we can't wait to see a picture of you and your dad taking a ride!
I cannot think of a higher purpose for such a project. Very cool.
If I can give one word of advice. Go ahead and snap as many pics as you can of at least the after work to document the quality of your build. Snapping pics with a cell phone takes almost no time away from the project, posting them in a build thread does, so skip the posting to focus on giving your dad that ride. But you will be glad you have the pics later. My neighbor did a complete resto on a '64 Mustang and now has an interested buyer. He wants to see pics of all the problem spots deep in the bowels of the car. Unfortunately, she didn't take pics as the car went together so it is a bit of an issue trying to document how well the problem areas were addressed.
I'm hoping you can make that happen BPic !! Best of luck buddy.
Good luck and Godspeed, I’m sure your dad will be very excited to take that ride with you.
Nice, keep your eye on the prize and get her done! As much as I want to see pics and read about the progress, I’d rather hear (several years from now) the touching story of making the best with the time you have!
Good luck with the build and can’t wait to hear the story of your dads first ride.
Alright, I'll start at the beginning. The car arrived in March 2018. I drove it 100 feet from the trailer to the garage and proceeded to take it apart.
Started the inspection process. I wasn't surprised by the rust I could see but was amazed at what was beneath the rust. More rust. The PO added metal everywhere to keep it together.
This one scared me. Thanks to a few members talking me off a ledge and finding an engine mount. I dug in. Keep in mind I am, well was an amateur welder. I would now say I'm a novice. Recommendation to anyone starting the way I did... Build your own rotisserie. It will give you the practice needed for the welding that will be needed. But also practice in thinner metal. I learned the hard way.
Since the car had serious structural issues, I decided to tackle that first and get it strong for the rest of the time on the rotisserie. I built my own door braces and was neurotic about checking the measurement everyday sometimes 5 or 6 times a day. I would take off a part of the floor and measure, remove any metal- measure, add metal- measure. I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking of 25 1/8 inches and 52 5/8 inches.
I bought the inner long and upper from RD and decided not to replace the entire length of the upper. I didn't want to disrupt the integrity of the connection from the upper to the rear shock tower. So made a sleeve for the area that would be but welded.
It just didn't look sturdy enough to me so I took the extra piece that I cut off of the RD part and after a little modification I made it into a sleeve. The nice thing about this is that it was a perfect fit because the grooves in the RD part matched the grooves on the factory part. It almost clicked into place and the grooved part was then rosette wleded. Again- ameture welder so the word gap is a reminder to leave a gap for the weld penetration.
Here is the inner long screwed into place while making adjustments with the upper.
Once this was all welded in and measurements taken like 300 times. I t was rolled out for a much needed bath. My neighbors think I'm crazy.
I'll add more soon. Now off to the place that allows me to pay for this stuff.
Very nice. That is the way to tackle these cars.
My hats off to you! Best of luck with your build, looks like you are off to a good start.
Nice work! Boy, I could have saved a lot of time on my project had I known I could just rivet metal straps across large voids in my floor pan
Wow, you are a brave man!!!!
Love the backstory, thanks for sharing it with our community.
Country:
Netherlands
Company:
Bavaria Brouwerij
Location:
Lieshout
Catalog codes:
Colnect codes BE-NL-00120
Issued on:
2007
Brand:
Bavaria
Beverage:
Beer
Cap Type:
Crown-cap - Standard size
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Thanks for the encouragement guys.
Once I got the longs done and the structure sound I had to find an engine mount. I'm surprised that these aren't reproduced by RD. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8858 So bought a used one from AA that looked like this...
After a few hours I had it cleaned up and it looked a lot more respectable.
The suspension console was nerve racking to make sure it was in the correct place. I took about 10 different measurements before removing the old on. Firewall was so rusty I didn't trust that it was not in original specs hence all the measuring.
I also added Cary's Super In Laws kit to tie everything together. Hint on this, make a paper template. It will save you hours of cursing. I'll try to find a photo of the completed suspension console or take a new one. Luckily all my measuring paid off and it landed in the correct spot.
Repaired a few smaller holes in areas I was unwilling to buy new parts for. This is the front footwell behind where the tunnel attaches. It's just roughed in when the photo was taken I did some grinding and filled pin holes and its almost not noticeable. It will also be covered with seam sealer for the most part.
I received a large parts order from RD and a tunnel from Rich at 914 Werke. Tunnel cleaned up real nice. When I saw this sitting next to the car my first thought was"Oh crap what have i done!"
Before starting to add any of the new parts I completely stripped the paint. It was really nice to see her naked! There was only 2 places that had filler and that will be dealt with when she goes for paint. I used a combination of chemical stripper and mechanical sanding with a little glass bead in the tight area. My goal was to turn her over to my paint guy with bare metal. I did some research on flash rustand found a product called Picklex and man this stuff is amazing. Shes been naked for going on 4 months now with zero rust. It is expensive at $200 a gallon but you don't need much and you mist it on, wait a few minutes and wipe it. The only real precaution is to not use a self etching primer over it. My paint guy is now using it and also loves it.
I'll add more later and bring up to speed to where I'm at now...
Learn something new every day, i grew up in Germany and i never knew Bavaria was in the Netherlands.
They taught me in school that it was some kind of dark void near the southern end of Germany ...
Epic stuff happening here Bpic. Way to go!
Also best of luck with your Dad. This can be a long and frustrating path you are walking down.
A couple of years ago I was helping a lady who had ALS. Hated watching her go downhill. But we made the best of it. One tends to focus on doing so when death is near. But, the thing is, we all know it's coming for each of us. So, appreciate everyday, tomorrow is not assured, etc., etc. All the phrases one sees on posters and FB. But it's true. Get that car done ASAP. Give your dad a great ride. Silver lining -- you'll probably have to do it the next day so he'll remember. ENJOY
Very best wishes for your Dad (and family), please keep us posted!
So a lot has happened since my last post. With the 914 and with life in general. I was able to get to the point of removing the braces and mounted the doors so my body guy could check the gaps. The doors were loose enough that we could bump them around to see what kind of play there was in the gaps. He seemed to think he could make them perfect even if he had to trim a little. After removing the right long from stem to stern and the floorboards and firewalls and being on a rotisserie for a year, what do you think, can it be adjusted out?
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I then was able to get the underside in primer. First I sanded with DA and 80 grit and then hit it with Picklex, BTW this stuff is awesome but time will tell if it lets everything stick.
Went to Jamaica on business and the hotel I stayed at had an old Singer. This is a replica of the car Katharine Hepburn brought to Jamaica in 1953.
In front of hotel
Original Car 1953 in Montego Bay with Katharine
Back from Jamiaca and did the undercoating with 3m rubberized undercoating. This is paintable so the bottom will have color when finished.
I then seam sealed the rear trunk and will be doing the rest of the seam sealer this weekend. Thanks for the photos everyone. I was getting worried about how it was going to look. I have a Wurth gun and used the SEM seam sealer. I was dreading this but it really isn't that bad and you can certainly get the height of the original build up. I will be shipping the gun to a member here and they will then offewr it someone else after. My hope is that it get used by anyone on 914world that can use it and it just keeps moving for years to come. I don't think its a perfect match but its not to bad.
I can't believe it looked like this in October 2018 and I have made it this far this fast. Again, I've never done anything like this before but man, I love it! BTW next Wednesday is one year from when I took the first part off of the car.
That's it for now I'll add more but I'm hoping I'll have color next month.
Oh and as for the title of this thread here's a picture of the guy who wants to go for a ride.
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Inspiration
Way to go Bpic For Dad!
Wonderful! I think that seam sealer looks spot on. I noticed considerable variation in the original texture even within my car. I suspect we obsess a lot more over getting the right texture than the factory did. Great work overall.
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really nice work
Amazing work so far!
Damn good door gaps from what your showing us. Almost every car has some variance and yes they can be adjusted a hair pretty much all directions.
Great motivation, great work, soon to be a great car! That first ride will be priceless.
Love the story as much as the work... your car will have an amazing value... way beyond the dollars. Nice job. Blessings to you and your Dad.
Thanks for the kind words everyone. My Dad was here for dinner last night and after 5 minutes he yelled my name, there was 20 people here, and said " I want to se the car!"
I'll post some new photos later. Did seam sealer and mounted the tub on a cart to be transported to my body guy.
Just saying I have "a body guy" sound weird. Before this project I would have made a bad joke about it.
She's off to paint. I was more nervous trailering the tub than I was cutting into the longs. Can't wait to see her in full color! What color will she be....
Exciting stuff, excellent progress, you’ve got this covered man! That was a significant amount of work you tackled. Pro! Can’t wait...
You are doing some amazing work here. Thanks for sharing the story and the progress.
Prior to leaving for paint I planned the air conditioning. I hated the dealer add on where they cut a huge hole in the floor and love the GT style front for an oil cooler. So I thought I would combine the two. I had a louvered panel made at a local metal shop and welded that in the floor after careful measurements to make sure I had the correct amount of louvers for the condenser exhaust and room for an inflatable tire. Thanks MB911 for the precut mount it looks great and is an easy install.
I added reinforcement between the suspension mounts and then boxed it in.
I'll run 2 high cfm fan which my AC guy says will be more than sufficient even in traffic.
I don't have pics of the box but to get the contour of the front of the car I cut 1/2 inch strips of metal and bent them perfectly to fit the front of the car then used them to trace the contour on a panel. The strips were then welded to the cut panel. There will also be rubber between the box and the car.
Tabs welded in to secure the bottom of the condenser. These will also have rubber grommets.
Bent and welded the lid and will be adding 4 spring clasps to secure the top.
As I get more into the interior I'll post the rest of the AC build.
BPic - I like what you are doing for the AC. Looking forward to seeing some color.
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Great looking work. Is the chain lock in the driveway just for fun?
With the tub at the body shop I started work on the doors. I searched everywhere for an early "no-rust" door and I really don't think they exist. So I bought a late no-rust door and used it as a donor and I was amazed at the weight difference between the 2. The late door has to be 15-20 pounds heavier. Luckily the area I needed to replace is identical on both doors as long as I left all of the original holes on the original door.
The rust was extensive in that the metal was completely gone for almost the entire length of the bottom of the door.
Because of the contour it's like fitting a 3d puzzle piece into place. Cut, grind, fit, measure, cut, grind, fit, grind , fit, grind, fit....Repeat.
I then zapped it into place and took my own sweet time welding it in. Didn't want any metal to move so I would hit it with a few welds and walk away to do something else. If I could touch it and it was cool I'd hit it again and walk away. I have a mental issue when it comes to walking away from an incomplete job and have been known to push the limits on heat while welding only to have a bigger problem then when I started, so this was a major OCD win. Overall I'm happy with the results. It stayed nice and straight and now I just have to break out the grinder and the Dremel for the seal channels and deliver to the body shop.
I received a call from the painter and over the last 2 days he was able to get 90% of the metal straightened and all of the little dings etc. removed. He thinks he'll shoot high build primer this weekend.
Looks good. I have tried to follow the same method and theory: Remove all the rust with the smallest cuts.
Word is the late doors are safer. IIRC there is also a bar or pipe that was attached across the length of the late door.
Received these photos from the painter this morning.
Man what a difference after seeing naked for so long!!
Holy smokes you are moving fast, and great work too! My hat is off to you on that door bottom repair. I agonized over how I was going to tackle that and luckily didn't have to thanks to 914Werke and @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5344 . Your car is looking fantastic!
I received some new photos from the body shop. It's starting to look like something now!
And nope it's not going to be black. This is all primer.
He uses a shiny high build primer so he can see all of the flaws. I've never heard of this. All the primer I've ever seen is flat.
I can't wait to see it in color!
Nice progress you must be super excited.
Here's a short video my body guy sent me. Hard to hear but I think he's explaining what he's doing.
https://youtu.be/tlPRz3VAE2g
Decided I needed a large blast box and wow they are pricy. My company sells golf carts to the Caribbean and Africa and there was an old POS with a van box on the back that they gave me. Here it is now with the car removed and all set up for blasting. Should have done this months ago. Total cost $155
Good lord! When I first pulled this up, I thought I was looking at the back of an ambulance and thought something horrible had happened! Then realized it is really totally awesome!
Yeah Brent maybe I should have squirted ketchup all over it. It works great. I have a shop vac attached to remove the dust and I’m moving faster than ever!
I've been out of the country more than in it for past month and a half. However my body guy has been very busy and here are a few shots. I decided, since it is a resto-mod, to go with a 2 stage paint. This is the first coat and it will return to the booth in a week after wet sanding and blocking for more clear. I don't have the name of the color but it was a one year color for the Porsche GT6.
I started getting nervous about my color choice a week before spraying and almost changed it to single stage and the original color. After seeing these photos, I'm glad I didn't chicken out.
Amazing to see the car at this point after 14 months. Can't wait to but there is so much more to do.
That looks amazing. Congratulations on reaching a milestone.
That's cool! Can't wait to see a pic of that color under natural sushine. Looks fantastic.
Thanks guys. I have video of it in sunlight but can’t figure out how to add video.
Looks incredible.
Could it be "Dark Blue Metallic" (not the most memorable name...), which was offered for only a few months on the 2016 GT4—making it the rarest color on the GT4 other than PTS shades. DBM was offered on 981s, 991s, and the 918, but is rarely seen out in the world. One of Porsche's best dark blues of all time, imho.
Can't wait to see your car together in the sun. Bold choice, but I think it's gonna look good, and Porsche did a similar shade on a gorgeous 356 Carrera 2 in the 1960s…
Love the color. Can't wait to see it all put together.
Wicked color...I like it
My aunt had the same horrible condition,our family is somewhat distant,talked to my cousin and asked after her and he said she was in a home but said not to visit as it would be a huge shock,I didn't go there as I wanted to remember her as she used to be..we were very close.
Amazing what you are doing,lost for words really...well done .
My son made a video of us picking up the car from paint.
Let's see if this works...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/22b4yt1rv7hx4fk/Mein 914.mp4?dl=0
Very cool. Did you make it home safely? I would love to see some hi-res photos of that in the sunlight.
Great thread and work.
I lost my Dad to dementia last year so he'll not get to see my 914 when the time comes.
I have just finished the re-painting of his last car, a 2002 Toyota Corolla that had a lot of scrapes and damage to panels.
I unveiled it yesterday, it was fathers day over here so it seemed a good day to put it back on the road.
Keep up the great work
A little photo shoot in the sun for the first time in over 2 years. Finally get to see the depth of the paint.
GETTING CLOSER
Oscar
Looking very nice. Keep 'em coming please.
That’s a great looking car. Keep going.
Good lookin color!
That's coming along great!
Gorgeous!!!!
Thanks all. I'll try to keep posting now that I have more time at home. Still have a lot to do -Interior, AC system, some wiring, bumpers should be back any day now, and finish the rims.... oh and Plus plus plus......
Great looking 914, love that blue.
Just Marvelous!!! How is your dad?
Thanks @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845
He's doing well, thanks for asking. He doesn't understand the lock down stuff and thankfully he doesn't remember how long it's been since I saw him. It's been 2 months now but we talk regularly and he always asks about "the car". He doesn't remember it's a Porsche and when he asks he always has the same response, A PORSCHE? Must doing well for yourself!
Beautiful! Looks like you're in the home stretch!
I'm very happy to say that I made it! Today is my Dads 85th birthday and he still remembered that I was building the car. And he was so proud to be going for a ride in something I built.
With COVID we haven't seen each other much since he is living in an assisted living facility and we are not allowed to visit. Today we got my mom and dad to come to our house for his birthday and he got to go for his first ride. I'm so happy I was able to get this car built before he forgot. (if you didn't read the full thread, he has dementia) Here he is going for a ride! My son edited the video.
to you Dad and
https://youtu.be/-NClrVwCB_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NClrVwCB_I
Can't thank you enough for sharing that moment.
well done!
Nothing better!
WOW! Very special on so many levels! Forever recorded on video! Congratulations and happy birthday pops!
that’s so awesome! thanks for sharing. what a great day for you and your dad! and that blue is super. what year and code was it on the GT6? that looks similar to Maserat and Ferarri color Ocean Blue Metallic, i have on my 07 QP.
you are one of one, cool to be unique!
Best 914 video ever! A special day for you, your dad, and family, but you also made my day too! Thank you!!!!
Unforgettable! Congratulations.
Awesome....
Miles of Smiles
Congratulations
You made his day and all of ours too. That is so cool.
That video is priceless. Cherish the time. Thank you for sharing that moment.
That's what it's all about right there my friend. Way to go building it & getting him out for a ride. Seriously great story to share. Thanks for letting us all come along for the ride as well. Absolutely awesome
Very cool story...thanks for sharing it.
Awesome, superb, and touching. I am not sure there are enough adjectives to even describe your feelings.
Amazing. Thanks for takinig us along on this special journey....
The only thing more beautiful than your restoration is the story.
By the way, what exhaust are you running? It sounds terrific.
Thanks everyone for the kind words! It was a great day. He's never ridden in a Porsche and was very impressed.
It was a very special day for me (and him) indeed.
Life is good
Great job. time.
A few small details to sort out, yep steering wheel is crooked, but I'm going to call her done and just drive her for now. I'll pull the original interior and redo it next year sometime.
I am amazed I got this far and would like to express my thanks to everyone on this board for the historical posts and replies to some of my stupid ass questions. You all helped me so much along the way I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned from you.
Thanks everyone and I'm sure I'll have some more questions but I'll attempt to not add another project to her and just
Did a little photo shoot this afternoon.
BEAUTIFUL!
Looks awesome.
Great and inspirational story-congrats to your Father and his “successful Porsche-driving son” !
The story alone was worth it. The 914 is a bonus. Good for you. And your dad. That's awesome! My father in law (wife's father) had dimensia. It sucks.
The car looks fantastic! Love that color.
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