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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ What would cause this damage?

Posted by: Tdskip Jan 22 2019, 12:40 PM

Not my car, it’s the cheap one in Santa Ana.

It flexes when you push up on it.

Yikes.

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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 22 2019, 12:49 PM

What flexes when you push where?
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PS: Looks rusty ...


Posted by: Tdskip Jan 22 2019, 12:55 PM

Hi Andy-hope you’re having a good day.

Sorry for the upside down picture, but there is a bout a three eights inch gap between the donut metal in the underlying body of the car. You can push up on the donut in the middle will come close to meeting the underbody where it belongs.

The rust on this car is really odd-the core tub is solid including the battery tray and longs but this and the front fenders near the cowl are not good.

I didn’t see any signs of accident damage, which makes me wonder why thirs is separated. Maybe this section was replaced at some point and they never properly welded it into place and it popped loose?

Posted by: Tom_T Jan 22 2019, 01:16 PM

When I hang from the ceiling ....

It looks like the doughnut has been ripped from it's weld points on 2-3 sides & sits a few cm's high/low.

So ask yourself:
"What could cause that much deformation?
..... & do I really want to risk buying this car with that type of abuse?"

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Tom
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Posted by: Retroracer Jan 22 2019, 01:37 PM

The other indication of possible damage/repair is the kink in the rocker seam as you look back down the car - that should be dead straight with well defined drain holes (ideally!).

Some shenanigans there.

- Tony

Posted by: Tdskip Jan 22 2019, 01:39 PM

Hi Tom and Tony, hope you both are having a good day as well.

I’ve already decided to pass on this one but it seemed worth posting to get some idea of just how unusual this was and continue my education in 914’s.

I did notice that the paint was cracking on that side (driver) rear fender above the wheel. The trunk metal is all straight and doesn’t have any waviness, but I wonder if it took a hit at some point in that area and that is what did it?

Posted by: falcor75 Jan 23 2019, 11:45 PM

That part isnt structural more than that it spreads the load from the jack. On my car it was only connected with a few spotwelds and with water getting between the sheets the minute the car left the factory its all down to time. Once one spot weld lets go it increases the load on the others so then the process accelerates. I dont think the car has hit anything in that area if it was it would have taken a much larger hit on the rear suspension arm/points.

Posted by: Tdskip Jan 23 2019, 11:52 PM

Thank you Mats

Posted by: PanelBilly Jan 24 2019, 11:47 AM

That’s not an important factor in choosing a project car.

Posted by: Rand Jan 24 2019, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Jan 24 2019, 09:47 AM) *

That’s not an important factor in choosing a project car.

Huh? The hell it's not! How do you know? It is a huge factor pointing to the need to look very carefully at the rest of the car with strict scrutiny. Usually when something is that messed up, there are going to be worse things elsewhere.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 24 2019, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Jan 24 2019, 10:13 AM) *
QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Jan 24 2019, 09:47 AM) *
That’s not an important factor in choosing a project car.
Huh? The hell it's not! How do you know? It is a huge factor pointing to the need to look very carefully at the rest of the car with strict scrutiny. Usually when something is that messed up, there are going to be worse things elsewhere.

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Gotta agree here, while the piece itself may not be structural, damage there is indicative of more problems in that area.
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Posted by: Rand Jan 24 2019, 12:50 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 24 2019, 10:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jan 24 2019, 10:13 AM) *
QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Jan 24 2019, 09:47 AM) *
That’s not an important factor in choosing a project car.
Huh? The hell it's not! How do you know? It is a huge factor pointing to the need to look very carefully at the rest of the car with strict scrutiny. Usually when something is that messed up, there are going to be worse things elsewhere.

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Gotta agree here, while the piece itself may not be structural, damage there is indicative of more problems in that area.
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It had to take a seriously hard knock.

Posted by: Tdskip Jan 24 2019, 03:18 PM

The guy apparently sold for $3,000 yesterday.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 24 2019, 03:23 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jan 24 2019, 02:18 PM) *

The guy apparently sold for $3,000 yesterday.



there are still some real 914 deals out there


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