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Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 14 2019, 11:25 AM

All,

I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear.

I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way.

I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift.

1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)?
2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites.
3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one:

https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l4-7800-lb-110v.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAwJTjBRBhEiwA56V7q5VxwKBXBLv24uOLQ2ImuB-71HFnpDtQKk6uZjI0YiPtwJFbWjgaBxoCf9YQAvD_BwE#productDetails


My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible.

THANK YOU ALL TEENERS!

CTC911CTC

Posted by: BPic Feb 14 2019, 11:32 AM

I have this one:

https://www.maxjaxusa.com/buy-purchase-maxjax-car-lift/dannmar-maxjax-standard-package.html

I really like it and you can unbolt one side and leave the other installed to have more room when not in use. (it has wheels) I just cover the holes in the floor with a matt when not installed. If I remember the anchoring system goes 4-5" in the floor and there are 7? anchors per post.
Good luck!

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2019, 12:14 PM

The lift should have specific installation instructions as well as minimum thickness for the concrete pad.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 14 2019, 12:59 PM

You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

My $/02.

Clay

Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 14 2019, 01:02 PM

Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things,

Thank you,
CTC911CTC


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 14 2019, 01:59 PM) *

You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

My $/02.

Clay


Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 14 2019, 04:00 PM

They make a few short versions of the two post lifts, but they are not clear floor lifts. The mechanism that syncs the two sides has to cross over somewhere, so if it can't cross over above, then it has to cross over below the car. Some of them can be installed with the crossover mechanism embedded in the concrete. That would be more expensive and invasive of the old carriage house's floor. If the floor is not original, you could buy the lift and replace the floor in the carriage house that was thick enough for the lift and had the crossover channel poured with the floor.


Hope that helps.

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 14 2019, 01:02 PM) *

Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things,

Thank you,
CTC911CTC


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 14 2019, 01:59 PM) *

You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.

If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts.

My $/02.

Clay


Posted by: jvmarino Feb 14 2019, 07:18 PM

Max Jax is pretty much your only option. That is what I had in my garage in a city rowhouse.




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Posted by: wndsnd Feb 14 2019, 07:35 PM

I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2019, 08:47 PM

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I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.

Great hobby lift.

Posted by: cuddy_k Feb 15 2019, 06:25 AM

Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...

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Posted by: mgphoto Feb 15 2019, 08:47 AM

I decided on the EZ Car lift, light weight, very portable, lots of options like the caster kit.


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Posted by: rgolia Feb 15 2019, 09:53 AM

QUOTE(wndsnd @ Feb 14 2019, 08:35 PM) *

I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.


agree.gif Get one of these and you are set.

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Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 15 2019, 10:22 AM

After carefully considering what was posted, my limiting factor is height. I thought that I could get 2 914s into the garage with a 2 post lift, however, all of the 2 post systems I saw on-line are at least 112 inches where my ceiling is exactly 100.5 inches. I cannot raise the ceiling, no way. I most likely will go with a roll-away floor lift like EZCarlift or similar. Only one car only will ever fit in the garage........

Thank you AGAIN all teeners
CTC911CTC


QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 14 2019, 12:25 PM) *

All,

I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear.

I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way.

I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift.

1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)?
2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites.
3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one:

https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l4-7800-lb-110v.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAwJTjBRBhEiwA56V7q5VxwKBXBLv24uOLQ2ImuB-71HFnpDtQKk6uZjI0YiPtwJFbWjgaBxoCf9YQAvD_BwE#productDetails


My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible.

THANK YOU ALL TEENERS!

CTC911CTC


Posted by: John Feb 15 2019, 12:45 PM

Each of the two Rotary lifts (7,000# and 10,000#) are clear floor, asymmetrical two post lifts. Each of them (and many others) call for a minimum of 3,000 PSI concrete with a minimum thickness of 4 1/2". They both require 3/4" concrete anchors with a minimum length of 5 1/2" with a minimum anchor embedment of 3-1/2".

The anchors must be properly installed and the torque rating is supposed to be at least 150 ft-lbs.

My floor is more than 6" thick and I had no problems drilling and torquing my anchor bolts to my floor when I installed my lifts. At least Rotary Lifts does have ways of making the lifts fit low ceiling clearance, and narrow or wide bays, but lift height might be affected.


Posted by: Chi-town Feb 15 2019, 02:25 PM

If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 15 2019, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(Chi-town @ Feb 15 2019, 03:25 PM) *

If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.

Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.

Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 15 2019, 08:07 PM


Good thing I am an engineer!

The concrete is 100 years old and not a crack. Not sure why it survived 100 winters but I would not cut it up.......thought about it.......just can’t do it.

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 15 2019, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Chi-town @ Feb 15 2019, 03:25 PM) *

If you can't go up, what about down?

Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling.

Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.


Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 16 2019, 08:47 AM

There's a one post lift, plus it can be rolled out into the driveway.

https://www.atlasautoequipment.ca/atlas-psp-6000-6-000-lb-portable-single-post-lift/? gclid=CjwKCAiAhp_jBRAxEiwAXbniXXXR_RAzY44FCuaCFakOIix87Vww4rs4msIvl3KJeQroOcqPac
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Posted by: sithot Feb 16 2019, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 15 2019, 03:55 PM) *


Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall.


Absolutely!

Posted by: ledfoot Feb 16 2019, 09:58 AM

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.

Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 16 2019, 11:56 AM

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Posted by: mb911 Feb 17 2019, 09:28 AM

QUOTE(cuddy_k @ Feb 15 2019, 04:25 AM) *

Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...

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Those are on sale this weekend at home depot for 1100. Tempting

Posted by: burton73 Feb 17 2019, 12:20 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 16 2019, 06:47 AM) *

There's a one post lift, plus it can be rolled out into the driveway.

https://www.atlasautoequipment.ca/atlas-psp-6000-6-000-lb-portable-single-post-lift/? gclid=CjwKCAiAhp_jBRAxEiwAXbniXXXR_RAzY44FCuaCFakOIix87Vww4rs4msIvl3KJeQroOcqPac
64PRoCEu0QAvD_BwE





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_VgG_KDZg


Less money. I think the same thing.

Bob B

Posted by: mepstein Feb 17 2019, 03:27 PM

QUOTE(burton73 @ Feb 17 2019, 01:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 16 2019, 06:47 AM) *

There's a one post lift, plus it can be rolled out into the driveway.

https://www.atlasautoequipment.ca/atlas-psp-6000-6-000-lb-portable-single-post-lift/? gclid=CjwKCAiAhp_jBRAxEiwAXbniXXXR_RAzY44FCuaCFakOIix87Vww4rs4msIvl3KJeQroOcqPac
64PRoCEu0QAvD_BwE





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_VgG_KDZg


Less money. I think the same thing.

Bob B

There's a greg smith equipment about 15 minutes away from me. No sales tax in DE. No installation needed. Other than money, I can't think of a reason not to buy. biggrin.gif

Posted by: steuspeed Feb 17 2019, 03:43 PM

Single side option.

https://aclifts.com/lifts/m-1-single-post-car-lift/

Posted by: r_towle Feb 17 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Posted by: mepstein Feb 17 2019, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.

Posted by: mb911 Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 18 2019, 07:10 AM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.


Posted by: mepstein Feb 18 2019, 07:18 AM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 18 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.

a lift should automatically lock if it fails.

Posted by: AHudson Feb 18 2019, 07:57 AM

QUOTE(cuddy_k @ Feb 15 2019, 06:25 AM) *

Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...

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I chose this exact lift and could not be more pleased. Does exactly as I need, can add blocks for higher lift if ever needed (haven't yet), is easily moved, quick, and silent. The brakes to hold it at height are very re assuring since gravity actually works with you to stop motion. I use back up jacks just in case, but they're just not necessary.

I especially like the 'clear' area underneath, allowing full vehicle access once raised. Literally, not one thing in the way from front to rear. Also quite easy to move around and store when you're done (or under the vehicle as many do.)

And for a thousand bucks? I've extracted this many times over. Set up was straightforward and you have Costco to deal with if anything goes awry. (Nothing has or did.)


QUOTE(mgphoto @ Feb 15 2019, 08:47 AM) *

I decided on the EZ Car lift, light weight, very portable, lots of options like the caster kit.




That's a nice lift and an interesting option. The crossbars are what backed me off of this option. Also, using a drill seemed mildly primitive, especially when the lift was double the cost.

Though this has nothing to do with the lift itself - the owner (who answered the phone, designed, sold, did customer service) was extremely rude. Seems others have had issue with him as well. I felt any after-sale needs would be difficult.

I did like the rise height, which beats the QuickJack.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 18 2019, 08:01 AM

Any lift is better than jack stands.

Posted by: North Coast Jim Feb 18 2019, 11:19 AM

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 14 2019, 12:25 PM) *

All,

I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear.

I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way.

I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift.

1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)?
2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites.
3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one:

https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l4-7800-lb-110v.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAwJTjBRBhEiwA56V7q5VxwKBXBLv24uOLQ2ImuB-71HFnpDtQKk6uZjI0YiPtwJFbWjgaBxoCf9YQAvD_BwE#productDetails





My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible.

THANK YOU ALL TEENERS!

CTC911CTC


Max Jax for me. Works great. I have a 3 car garage and wanted room around the car to work without interference. 112' ceiling clearance, so I mounted it right in the middle of the 2 car bay. Wife's pissed as her car now must go into the singe car side when I work on the 914. She says it's too tight. Scares her to drive in on that side. Tough !!




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Posted by: Triaddave Feb 18 2019, 12:41 PM

If the ceiling is the limit on going up, build a pit and go down...

Posted by: cuddy_k Feb 18 2019, 01:30 PM

Maxjax is a great option if you like/need to work seated and want a more robust installation. If you're ok with working on your back, the QuickJack is much cheaper (about half) and simpler (no concrete testing, roll the lifting units out of the way when not needed, etc.). The EZ-car lift is also nicely portable, but is close in price to the maxjax and requires a drill for raising/lowering. Of course, since I've been using a QuickJack for several years, I'm partial to it for low-ceiling installations...but I totally agree that anything is better than jack stands. Once you get a lift...any lift...you'll wonder how you lived without it. Be safe!

Posted by: mepstein Feb 18 2019, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Triaddave @ Feb 18 2019, 01:41 PM) *

If the ceiling is the limit on going up, build a pit and go down...

Pits are not safe plus not very useful.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 19 2019, 06:52 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 18 2019, 07:18 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 18 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.

a lift should automatically lock if it fails.



Key word there is "should". I am a bit paranoid. I have seen a truck roll off a center post lift and fall upside down on a Honda Civic. Kinda made me paranoid about cars that high in the air.


Posted by: dan10101 Feb 19 2019, 09:22 PM

When I turned 50 I petitioned for a rack. I chose a full lift 2 post rack from a car show special price. It was the best thing I could have done to keep wrenching. I use it constantly. I've had my 914 on the rack for the last 8 months. It's gone up and down maybe inchs at a time to get it to the exact best height to make it the easiest on this old body. i can't even raise it all the way up because I have a 9 ft ceiling. But I use rolling seats. It works for me. 20+ times a day I'm adjusting the height. It's a lifesaver.
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Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 20 2019, 12:16 PM

QUOTE(dan10101 @ Feb 19 2019, 10:22 PM) *

When I turned 50 I petitioned for a rack. I chose a full lift 2 post rack from a car show special price. It was the best thing I could have done to keep wrenching. I use it constantly. I've had my 914 on the rack for the last 8 months. It's gone up and down maybe inchs at a time to get it to the exact best height to make it the easiest on this old body. i can't even raise it all the way up because I have a 9 ft ceiling. But I use rolling seats. It works for me. 20+ times a day I'm adjusting the height. It's a lifesaver.



Nice Shop - I have shop envy.

Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 20 2019, 02:37 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 18 2019, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 18 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.

a lift should automatically lock if it fails.


Some offshore budget lifts don't lock automatically, mine's a USA made asymmetric AAMCO, clack-clack all the way up.

I never had a worry with my lift, I have a 996 C4S on the lift right now, engine out, new 4.0 going in shortly. The 996 lump must weigh 500 pounds.
Any lift you have to use common sense when tackling high torque bolts, shifting loads, etc.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 20 2019, 02:44 PM

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.

a lift should automatically lock if it fails.


Some offshore budget lifts don't lock automatically, mine's a USA made asymmetric AAMCO, clack-clack all the way up.

I never had a worry with my lift, I have a 996 C4S on the lift right now, engine out, new 4.0 going in shortly. The 996 lump must weigh 500 pounds.
Any lift you have to use common sense when tackling high torque bolts, shifting loads, etc.

Putting stuff under the lift like auxiliary jacks can quickly become a safety hazard. It's very easy to forget they are there and lower the lift. You think you will remember but it only takes a moment to get distracted. Better to have a newer lift that you can trust.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 21 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 20 2019, 03:37 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 18 2019, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 18 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 17 2019, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 17 2019, 04:49 PM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(ledfoot @ Feb 16 2019, 10:58 AM) *

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The Maxjax works with the 3” pad extension for 2 cars.My ceiling is 98” tall with plenty of room. I would recommend using the epoxy anchors.


Whoa, very, very cool - exactly what I thought about- dream garage!

Couple of comments.

there is a Craig Smith Lift shop up in southern NH.
No sales tax.

I don't like the 911 on a two post lift...its really tail heavy and you can easily lift the front end off the lift points with one hand....makes me scared.

I ended up with a drive on lift, works great.
You may want to take a look a those also.

Or, possibly a storage facility??

Rich

Our shop has 7 - 2 post lifts and a couple midrise lifts. The midrise are used for metal and bodywork. The 2 post lifts are for mechanical. 98% of the business is 911's. No car has ever fallen off the lift and the guys drop and install engines everyday.



One more thing to note is that in my uncle's shop and before that my grandpa's they always had a tripod screw jack underneath to ensure if something were to happen there is a safety

agree.gif

Unless I am doing engine or trans work on our 914s, I keep a pole jack under the back of the trans. If the lift decides to fail, the car won't come down on me.

a lift should automatically lock if it fails.


Some offshore budget lifts don't lock automatically, mine's a USA made asymmetric AAMCO, clack-clack all the way up.

I never had a worry with my lift, I have a 996 C4S on the lift right now, engine out, new 4.0 going in shortly. The 996 lump must weigh 500 pounds.
Any lift you have to use common sense when tackling high torque bolts, shifting loads, etc.

Putting stuff under the lift like auxiliary jacks can quickly become a safety hazard. It's very easy to forget they are there and lower the lift. You think you will remember but it only takes a moment to get distracted. Better to have a newer lift that you can trust.



I always do a walk around under the car before lowering the lift. Again because I am paranoid. I had to buy a new oil drain bucket for the shop I was working at early in my career because I smashed the funnel on top trying to lower a car. So I made it a habit to do a clearance walk around before the lift goes down.


Posted by: sithot Feb 23 2019, 09:07 AM

Bendpak:

https://www.bendpak.com/grandprix/

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 23 2019, 09:51 AM

after looking at many many many lifts and lift manufactures, doing as many 914s as we do we chose rotary lifts. They work perfectly with a 914 and other Porsche modelsAttached Image

Posted by: sithot Feb 23 2019, 10:34 AM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 23 2019, 10:51 AM) *

after looking at many many many lifts and lift manufactures, doing as many 914s as we do we chose rotary lifts. They work perfectly with a 914 and other Porsche modelsAttached Image



That's what I use. agree.gif

Posted by: TheWeatherMan Feb 26 2019, 02:11 PM

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When I turned 50 I petitioned for a rack. I chose a full lift 2 post rack from a car show special price. It was the best thing I could have done to keep wrenching. I use it constantly. I've had my 914 on the rack for the last 8 months. It's gone up and down maybe inchs at a time to get it to the exact best height to make it the easiest on this old body. i can't even raise it all the way up because I have a 9 ft ceiling. But I use rolling seats. It works for me. 20+ times a day I'm adjusting the height. It's a lifesaver.
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What two post lift did you purchase?

Posted by: mb911 Feb 26 2019, 05:31 PM

Just bought a maxjax for 1500 today delivered.. Was a flash sale.. Looking forward to using this..

Posted by: mepstein Feb 26 2019, 05:34 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 26 2019, 06:31 PM) *

Just bought a maxjax for 1500 today delivered.. Was a flash sale.. Looking forward to using this..

Wow! Great price.

Posted by: Freezin 914 Feb 26 2019, 06:14 PM

As some of you know, I just bought a mid rise lift used. $900. New 1500. 6000lbs.
Max lift height of around 60in. Depending on adaptors used, can be more, less. Haven’t used it yet. But some have chimed in already. Nobody regrets buying a lift.


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Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 27 2019, 06:07 AM



One thing I don't like about some of the scissor lifts is no rubber pads, sitting on steel does make for a car slipping around. I don't know how many times I almost lost an engine on my steel top lift table, till I grew a brain and started using a rubber sheet on it. The above lift I'd use hockey pucks on the lift points to give it some grip.

Posted by: DRPHIL914 Feb 27 2019, 08:19 AM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 26 2019, 06:31 PM) *

Just bought a maxjax for 1500 today delivered.. Was a flash sale.. Looking forward to using this..

direct or Costco?

Posted by: mb911 Feb 27 2019, 11:18 AM

QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Feb 27 2019, 06:19 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 26 2019, 06:31 PM) *

Just bought a maxjax for 1500 today delivered.. Was a flash sale.. Looking forward to using this..

direct or Costco?



Direct..

Posted by: ctc911ctc Apr 3 2019, 08:10 AM

On my list - went to buy it today - price raised to 1279......sigh



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Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...

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Those are on sale this weekend at home depot for 1100. Tempting


Posted by: Carl La Fong Apr 3 2019, 10:15 AM

Mid size lifts are great. This garage has a 7 foot ceiling. The lift will go up almost the full 4 feet if the targa bar and the windshield rise up between the ceiling joists. A cheap furniture dolly (shanghai tool supply) and beech chair are great for working under the car. This lift also came with rubber pads that slide on the lift arms allowing for more stability.


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Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 3 2019, 11:22 AM

Welcome back Elliot! You've been missed 'my little chickadee'. cheer.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 3 2019, 12:52 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Apr 3 2019, 10:22 AM) *

Welcome back Elliot! You've been missed 'my little chickadee'. cheer.gif

What gave it away, Kev? The 747 decal; his mastery of spelling; the OSHA rejected chair; or perhaps the pseudonym? Psuedonym? Wait a sheeplove.gif minute. Elyut would never use a pseudonym. In fact, his pontifications against such were posted quite often. shades.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 3 2019, 01:01 PM

Man...that's a lot of quotes. Quote happy Wednesday! smilie_pokal.gif

That was the first kernel to fall from the silo. Wiki took me to 99%. Pictures? shades.gif 100%. wink.gif

Carl La Fong is a Psuedonym WC Fields used for a screenplay he wrote. Watch much TCM?

Mystery over. So...do we address you as Carl or Elliot?

Posted by: Carl La Fong Apr 3 2019, 02:46 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Apr 3 2019, 12:22 PM) *

Welcome back Elliot! You've been missed 'my little chickadee'. cheer.gif


Do I know him?

Posted by: Carl La Fong Apr 3 2019, 02:48 PM

I have no idea who you are all talking about.

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 3 2019, 02:54 PM

QUOTE(Carl La Fong @ Apr 3 2019, 04:46 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Apr 3 2019, 12:22 PM) *

Welcome back Elliot! You've been missed 'my little chickadee'. cheer.gif


Do I know him?


I thought Elliot's new user name was "Wei Tu Low" shades.gif

Posted by: sb914 Apr 3 2019, 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Carl La Fong @ Apr 3 2019, 01:48 PM) *

I have no idea who you are all talking about.

I do!

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Apr 3 2019, 09:41 PM

I just placed an order for a MaxJax 2 post lift. Looked at scissor lifts but didn’t like the weight, extra delivery fees and i had to build ramps.

It gets delivered next week. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: Krieger Apr 3 2019, 10:41 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Apr 3 2019, 10:22 AM) *

Welcome back Elliot! You've been missed 'my little chickadee'. cheer.gif


I'd recognize that scoop anywhere!

Posted by: mb911 Apr 4 2019, 05:46 AM

QUOTE(914-300Hemi @ Apr 3 2019, 07:41 PM) *

I just placed an order for a MaxJax 2 post lift. Looked at scissor lifts but didn’t like the weight, extra delivery fees and i had to build ramps.

It gets delivered next week. piratenanner.gif



After having mine for a few weeks I can tell you this. The hoses are really in the way. I need to find a way to cover them like what they do for trade shows and electrical cords..

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 4 2019, 08:34 AM

I'm lucky there. My hose slips into the recess of the slabs expansion joint so the hose is semi recessed. The best accessory I have found for my Max Jack are the Harbor Freight small furniture dollies. They allow me to use the 4" extensions that come with it. Raise the car 3-4" then lower onto the dollies. Once on the dolly the extensions can be fitted. Why furniture dollies instead of blocks. Try it and you'll find out. Bottom line: Any lift is better than no lift. Get what you can afford and whatever fits. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mlindner Apr 4 2019, 12:15 PM

Ben, just get a cement blade for your circular saw. Saw two groves 3/4 inch apart and 3/4 inch deep, hit with hammer/chisel. I ran mine then filled channel with flexible cement caulk. See bottom right corner gives you a little peak of the flat floor. Best, MarkAttached Image

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 4 2019, 12:24 PM

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Ben, just get a cement blade for your circular saw. Saw two groves 3/4 inch apart and 3/4 inch deep, hit with hammer/chisel. I ran mine then filled channel with flexible cement caulk. See bottom right corner gives you a little peak of the flat floor. Best, MarkAttached Image



Curious......

What is the capacity of that lift?


Posted by: mepstein Apr 4 2019, 12:26 PM

Hose Protector Ramp - sold on Amazon


Posted by: mlindner Apr 4 2019, 12:26 PM

Ben, found a better shot before I filled the grove. Again, lower right corner.Attached Image

Posted by: mlindner Apr 4 2019, 12:29 PM

914 teener. Bendpak, 6,000 lbs. love it.

Posted by: mlindner Apr 4 2019, 01:11 PM

ctc911ctc, just looking at your garage size again....a two post lift as nice as they are will take up much of your space with the car in. A scissor lift would give you that space back but limited as to the height. For 911s and 914s the scissor is especially nice since there is nothing in the middle of the car (exhaust, drive line etc.) Have fun, Mark

Posted by: mlindner Apr 4 2019, 01:29 PM

Just noticed, two out of the three two post lifts mentioned are to wide for your garage....over 120 inch.

Posted by: mb911 Apr 4 2019, 03:08 PM

@mlinder

I suppose I could do that.. Not a bad idea..

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 4 2019, 03:26 PM

QUOTE(mlindner @ Apr 4 2019, 12:11 PM) *

ctc911ctc, just looking at your garage size again....a two post lift as nice as they are will take up much of your space with the car in. A scissor lift would give you that space back but limited as to the height. For 911s and 914s the scissor is especially nice since there is nothing in the middle of the car (exhaust, drive line etc.) Have fun, Mark



Do you think with a 987.1 I could still get at the water pump in the front of the engine?

Thanks for those pics.

Posted by: Dredwin Apr 4 2019, 03:50 PM

I embraced my hose...bought a pool noodle, cut it open and ran the hose through it. I was worried I'd step on the hose and puncture it so at least the pool noodle protects it. I have the scissor lift though and wanted the flexibility of moving the lift around (and wanting to cut the floor up).

Posted by: mlindner Apr 5 2019, 05:12 AM

914 teener, good question and I do have a Cayman.....I have not done the water pump or belts yet. I believe with the extra work of putting the extension on and getting the car another 8 inch above the lift it would work. The few pictures I have of the Cayman were just to clean last year before the parade. Best, MarkAttached Image Attached Image

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 5 2019, 06:10 AM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 4 2019, 05:26 PM) *

QUOTE(mlindner @ Apr 4 2019, 12:11 PM) *

ctc911ctc, just looking at your garage size again....a two post lift as nice as they are will take up much of your space with the car in. A scissor lift would give you that space back but limited as to the height. For 911s and 914s the scissor is especially nice since there is nothing in the middle of the car (exhaust, drive line etc.) Have fun, Mark



Do you think with a 987.1 I could still get at the water pump in the front of the engine?

Thanks for those pics.


I'd go for 2 post like maxjack on the water cooleds, crapload of stuff runs down the center. I the took the tranny and driveshaft out of a C4S yesterday morning, IMS solution, no way could you do that with a table lift.
Today I have to replace the clutch slave cyl in another C4S, PITA getting my big mitts up there even with a 2 post.

Posted by: mlindner Apr 5 2019, 07:01 AM

I agree Mark, with doing that much work...trans, engines a two post is a must.

Posted by: Hans Zupp Apr 25 2019, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(sb914 @ Apr 3 2019, 11:29 PM) *
QUOTE(Carl La Fong @ Apr 3 2019, 01:48 PM) *
I have no idea who you are all talking about.
I do!
I zink I no whoo he be ...

Posted by: Krieger Sep 28 2019, 10:43 AM

Now I am considering the move to the two post lift. I have had an EZ car lift for at least 10 years, but I want to stop rolling around on the ground and stand or as close to that as possible. I have a good size garage that is 25'×25' with 10' high ceilings. What are the electrical requirements for these lifts? Is 110 enough?

Posted by: 914-d Sep 28 2019, 10:58 AM

One of the lifts I have is 110v, the other is 220v. The first is sold by
twinbusch.com. It is rated 9500 lbs, but6 nowhere near as stout as my forward lift rated at 9000. Both work fine

Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 28 2019, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Sep 28 2019, 11:43 AM) *

Now I am considering the move to the two post lift. I have had an EZ car lift for at least 10 years, but I want to stop rolling around on the ground and stand or as close to that as possible. I have a good size garage that is 25'×25' with 10' high ceilings. What are the electrical requirements for these lifts? Is 110 enough?


Every two post lift I have ever seen requires 220V ac to work. Have an electrician wire up a new circuit from your breaker panel to the lift.




Posted by: mb911 Sep 28 2019, 08:32 PM

The maxjax works on 110 .. I have used all kinds and this is my favorite so far..

Posted by: oldschool Sep 29 2019, 01:07 AM

Attached Image I got this off of crags list its a tire chief has work out fine.

Posted by: sithot Sep 29 2019, 05:39 AM

A friend has put these in his latest dealership. If only.... drooley.gif

https://rotarylift.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Rotary_Smartlift.pdf

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I like no encumbrances under a car. Having complete access to everything was the reason I went with a 2 post.
The 4 post storage lift allows some work but it's still best used as a storage device. Bumping your head is a common occurrence.

FWIW: It's apparently a little known fact that a third "leg" is recommended for 2 post lifts.
I use an older Rotary screw jack for extra stability when they're up high or if there's going to be some "tugging" on non-compliant nuts and bolts.wink.gif

The Rotary RS4 is sold on Amazon for about $140. Well worth it for added insurance.

Also recommend HD rubber lift pads that are cut for seam welds. Easier on the chassis.

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Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 29 2019, 12:21 PM

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FWIW: It's apparently a little known fact that a third "leg" is recommended for 2 post lifts.


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I always put a stand under the back of a 914 when I have it up on my lift. I have seen a car fall off a lift, and I don't want it to happen to me.

I am not paranoid... just convinced the world is out to get me.



Posted by: mb911 Sep 29 2019, 12:52 PM

I need one that is about 48" might have to make one.. I do like the idea..

Posted by: sithot Sep 29 2019, 03:23 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 29 2019, 02:52 PM) *

I need one that is about 48" might have to make one.. I do like the idea..


You could start with this. It's 80"
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stark-Underhoist-Support-Stand-1-2-Ton-Capacity-Self-Locking-Threaded-Screw-Adjustable-Height-Red/579106373?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=529&adid=22222222227077844989&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=190076634607&wl4=pla-294299931790&wl5=200573&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112354406&wl11=online&wl12=579106373&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4czDhvf25AIVD56fCh1iUQK_EAQYAyABEgIe3vD_BwE

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