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Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 12:30 PM

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 14 2019, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewItem=&item=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 14 2019, 12:56 PM

All of the 912 cars, IIRC, are short wheelbase cars (with the exception of the 912E).

Lately the short wheelbase 911s have risen in price to unobtanium levels. So buyers are turning to 912 chassis to convert to 911 power. Kinda like converting a 914-4 to a six. A few years ago, I sold a 68 912 roller, rusty and with no engine, for close to 10K. I put it on Pelican, and had 3 buyers within 4 hours.

If I were looking for an air cooled 911, I would look to the mid-year cars, 74-77. That was the age of the low compression, mild cammed motors with CIS and thermal reactors. Replace the motor with a good high compression motor with Webers or EFI on it, and you will still come off cheaper than a 912 in the same condition.


Of course, I would probably buy another 914 before I bought a 911/912. I actually bought that 912 with the intention of putting a six in it. It sat for years before I admitted I really didn't want to do any work on it. Taildraggers aren't my thing.


I would like to see someone who is good with body work take a 74 911 targa front end, a 74 914 back end and make them into one car. Call it a 1974 Boxster.

I would be such an evil genius if I had lots of money. happy11.gif

Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2019, 12:58 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 01:54 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewItem=&item=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Just like any Porsche, It's all about condition. But I want a '66 because it's my birth year. And I want it to have an old crappy respray so I'm not afraid to drive it anywhere.

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 01:04 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 10:54 AM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewItem=&item=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.


Thank you! I did check Haggerty, ranging from 20K FAIR, 30's Good and up to 40+ Excellent


I am looking at one for $20K.... between fair and good condition.... may not be a bad investment....

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 14 2019, 10:56 AM) *

All of the 912 cars, IIRC, are short wheelbase cars (with the exception of the 912E).

Lately the short wheelbase 911s have risen in price to unobtanium levels. So buyers are turning to 912 chassis to convert to 911 power. Kinda like converting a 914-4 to a six. A few years ago, I sold a 68 912 roller, rusty and with no engine, for close to 10K. I put it on Pelican, and had 3 buyers within 4 hours.

If I were looking for an air cooled 911, I would look to the mid-year cars, 74-77. That was the age of the low compression, mild cammed motors with CIS and thermal reactors. Replace the motor with a good high compression motor with Webers or EFI on it, and you will still come off cheaper than a 912 in the same condition.


Of course, I would probably buy another 914 before I bought a 911/912. I actually bought that 912 with the intention of putting a six in it. It sat for years before I admitted I really didn't want to do any work on it. Taildraggers aren't my thing.


I would like to see someone who is good with body work take a 74 911 targa front end, a 74 914 back end and make them into one car. Call it a 1974 Boxster.

I would be such an evil genius if I had lots of money. happy11.gif


I would buy it to keep it as a 912... I like the simple engine and not for the power.

i do like the short wheel base--

This car I am looking at is looking good for the cash....

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 01:08 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2019, 10:58 AM) *

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 01:54 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223331899473?ViewItem=&item=223331899473
Well this is either an example of the market or just what one nut hopes the market is. It will need a little more than a buff out.
I've been offered over $30K for mine, it's a nice running '66 with a new interior and new floors and front suspension pan and gas tank support, and an old crappy black respray.

Just like any Porsche, It's all about condition. But I want a '66 because it's my birth year. And I want it to have an old crappy respray so I'm not afraid to drive it anywhere.

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Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 01:12 PM

Hagerty's price ranges....





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Posted by: Mayne Feb 14 2019, 02:51 PM

I would buy a 912 if I could. A short wheel base in Irish Green would do just fine. Keep in mind, short of the engine, the restoration of a 912 will cost pretty much the same as a 911, so if you thinking investment value, that's a consideration.

BTW, the 69 912 is long wheelbase, like the 911 of that year..

Posted by: thelogo Feb 14 2019, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif





No offesnse man
But your totally miss informed about the 912.


About 10 years ago was the time to buy one up not now.
I have seen nothing but really expensive 912 s for sale that range in condition from need total resto to rough drivers , going for really high asking price.

By the time you find and buy one of these . Fix and restore it
You are gonna be sad you did , just to sell it off or drive it around ?


Im not seeing how it can make sense , financially or fun factor ?




https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerland-porschecoupe/6801158050.html

This actually looks like a nice car but 20k

Once you start paying for future collector value.

I check out as a buyer .

If offer the guy 12k and thats still pretty risky



Posted by: thelogo Feb 14 2019, 03:08 PM

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 11:12 AM) *

Hagerty's price ranges....







Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .


Posted by: 914_teener Feb 14 2019, 03:20 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 01:08 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 11:12 AM) *

Hagerty's price ranges....







Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .



Why the synisism?

One could say the same of a 914.

Hagerty's is a well reapected authority on pricing of classic cars and it is built on data from all over the country.

If the OP wants to get a 912...more power to him.

Good examples are rare and the law of scarcity would apply.

That's not an "asshat" opinion.


Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 14 2019, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(Mayne @ Feb 14 2019, 02:51 PM) *

BTW, the 69 912 is long wheelbase, like the 911 of that year..


I did say "IIRC" - If I remember correctly. poke.gif

Thanks for catching that. I forgot they made the 912 in 69.


Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 14 2019, 03:57 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Feb 14 2019, 01:20 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 01:08 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 11:12 AM) *

Hagerty's price ranges....







Yeh , if your taking advice from a bunch of asshat insurance sales people on value of classic aircooled cars , then
You might think about buying a toyota instead .



Why the synisism?

One could say the same of a 914.

Hagerty's is a well reapected authority on pricing of classic cars and it is built on data from all over the country.

If the OP wants to get a 912...more power to him.

Good examples are rare and the law of scarcity would apply.

That's not an "asshat" opinion.


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Posted by: thelogo Feb 14 2019, 04:05 PM

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly







Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

Posted by: Dave_Darling Feb 14 2019, 04:12 PM

912 prices have really been dragged upward by the longhood 911 prices. (All 912s except the 912E are longhood cars; all but the 912E and the 1969 model years are SWB models; with ones that are early enough you'll even see Nadella axles!) You're not likely to find decent cars for decent money.

They can still be worth it to buy, and fix up, and drive. Much like a 914. The driving experience is surprisingly 914-like. Kind of makes sense, though, as the engine is shorter and lighter and more forward than the equivalent 911. Perhaps it's only 914-like in comparison to an early 911.

Prices seem pretty absurd to me, but then again 914 prices are a lot higher than they used to be as well.

The 912 has all of the standard early-911 problems, notably rust where the front suspension attaches. Other areas as well, but that is by far the most common, like our "hell hole", and for similar reasons, because the batteries are close by. It also has the same set of engine problems as the later 356 motors, which are thankfully pretty robust, except for the heads. They apparently crack even worse than 2-liter 914 heads do.

--DD

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 12:55 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif





No offesnse man
But your totally miss informed about the 912.


About 10 years ago was the time to buy one up not now.
I have seen nothing but really expensive 912 s for sale that range in condition from need total resto to rough drivers , going for really high asking price.

By the time you find and buy one of these . Fix and restore it
You are gonna be sad you did , just to sell it off or drive it around ?


Im not seeing how it can make sense , financially or fun factor ?




https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerland-porschecoupe/6801158050.html

This actually looks like a nice car but 20k

Once you start paying for future collector value.

I check out as a buyer .

If offer the guy 12k and thats still pretty risky


This is great!
This is what I wanted to hear

The one that I know of, is in better condition than this one... not sure of all the details as I did not want to bother the owner until I am convinced I really want to go after it--to drive, to invest if the right price is correct.

Based on what I see so far from the inputs, I may not be too far.

Much appreciate ALL the honest feedback!


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Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 02:05 PM) *

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly

beerchug.gif






Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...


Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Feb 14 2019, 02:12 PM) *

912 prices have really been dragged upward by the longhood 911 prices. (All 912s except the 912E are longhood cars; all but the 912E and the 1969 model years are SWB models; with ones that are early enough you'll even see Nadella axles!) You're not likely to find decent cars for decent money.

They can still be worth it to buy, and fix up, and drive. Much like a 914. The driving experience is surprisingly 914-like. Kind of makes sense, though, as the engine is shorter and lighter and more forward than the equivalent 911. Perhaps it's only 914-like in comparison to an early 911.

Prices seem pretty absurd to me, but then again 914 prices are a lot higher than they used to be as well.

The 912 has all of the standard early-911 problems, notably rust where the front suspension attaches. Other areas as well, but that is by far the most common, like our "hell hole", and for similar reasons, because the batteries are close by. It also has the same set of engine problems as the later 356 motors, which are thankfully pretty robust, except for the heads. They apparently crack even worse than 2-liter 914 heads do.

--DD

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Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Feb 14 2019, 04:32 PM

If you've been looking to buy a 912, now is the time, they have recently dropped a lot in prices. The best cars are still bringing really good money but the average driver's and projects have really taken a hit. I know, I have about 6 of them out in the yard, and moved about 5 of them last year, so I know what they've been selling for.

The projects I sold last year ranged in price from $6000-12,000, which was way down from a couple of years ago when they were bringing $12,000-20,000.



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Posted by: porschetub Feb 14 2019, 04:50 PM

A good investment as the 911's become further out of most peoples price ranges,the clever folks are picking these up @ the right price to restore or convert to a six,important to buy one with a good engine as they are rather spendy to overhaul properly as they are an old engine now and have there own special requirements for a correct rebuild,5 speed cars bring a higher price as I believe many were 4 speed.
They can safely be rebuilt to 100-120+hp if done right and offer good performance over the tail happy earlier 911 with more engine weight.
I would buy one if I could find one but they are thin on the ground in my country,last one I saw here was a very average car with older resto for 90K …...the guy was a total dreamer av-943.gif av-943.gif .

Posted by: Mayne Feb 14 2019, 04:50 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 14 2019, 04:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Mayne @ Feb 14 2019, 02:51 PM) *

BTW, the 69 912 is long wheelbase, like the 911 of that year..


I did say "IIRC" - If I remember correctly. poke.gif

Thanks for catching that. I forgot they made the 912 in 69.


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I tend to prefer the SWB 912 (less so for 911s for some reason), but I wonder if that one-year-only will catch on in the collector market more than others.

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Feb 14 2019, 04:51 PM

And trust me, no one wishes 912's were selling for more, more then me, as they said in Top Gun, the pattern is full...


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Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 14 2019, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 02:05 PM) *

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly







Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

Says the only guy entered in the contest. So I can't quite tell, are you saying Hagerty's prices are inflated or too low? Are you accusing them of being willing to pay, in the event of a loss, well over market for a car just so they can get an extra $12 a year in premium? confused24.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 14 2019, 05:43 PM

Got this one. Super score true barn find with Military Service history. Hawaii plates and engine rebuild info from a Hawaii Air Cooled shop. Good floors but needed a front suspension crossmember like most all of them do now. Getting the Outlaw treatment with a type IV.

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Posted by: enf2232 Feb 14 2019, 06:10 PM

Bring-a-Trailer, search for 912, you can see results.

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/912/

Posted by: thelogo Feb 14 2019, 06:11 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 03:25 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 02:05 PM) *

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly







Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

Says the only guy entered in the contest. So I can't quite tell, are you saying Hagerty's prices are inflated or too low? Are you accusing them of being willing to pay, in the event of a loss, well over market for a car just so they can get an extra $12 a year in premium? confused24.gif






I honestly dont believe anyone here is stupid so

Lets make it clear , haggerty provides the insurance that the customer asks for , if you want your /6 insured for 100k
They would be happy to do it .


( as long as you always drive directly from the car show then straight back home, if you stop to pick up a
A pizza then your coverage and policy is void and your a criminal for insurance fraud)
Assclowns !

Does that mean its worth 100k on the open market ????


Catering to the customer regarding value, then calling it accurate
Pricing for used car buying is good business but not good judgement wub.gif



What does haggerty list a 73 2.0 for $

Im sure its more then they have sold for , actually sold , not asking price !



Thats like saying o yeah the car has original 62k miles on it
And i dont need to verify that cause the guy at
Auto atlanta said so ....

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 14 2019, 06:56 PM

I'd recommend you post as many pictures of car in question as you can over at the www.912bbs.org , good people and extremely knowledgeable and down to earth.

A 912 is a similar, but distinct, driving experience. Certainly some are being converted to 911 engines, but most are being enjoyed as 912's. They handle differently than 911s, better balance. They are a great balance of fun around town but still being a very capable touring car.

Any blanket dismissal of 912's as being worth it, to be charitable, is misguided.

Drive one - it will talk to you as then have a ton of character, you'll know right away if it's a keeper.

(and yes, I have one, as well as a 911 to compare it too)

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 14 2019, 06:58 PM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 14 2019, 05:51 PM) *

And trust me, no one wishes 912's were selling for more, more then me, as they said in Top Gun, the pattern is full...


To be fair, those cars are kind of rough.

Posted by: Larmo63 Feb 14 2019, 07:04 PM

I have had my eye on a Bahama Yellow '67 912 in my neighborhood for quite a while. Very tidy original paint car with nice looking deep sixes and the chrome steel wheels come with it. Rebuilt engine. Nice car.

He's asking (depending on his mood) between $40 - 45,000.00 for it.

That's why I haven't bought it. I think it is a bit high, but who knows? We could be talking in five years about these being $75,000.00 cars.

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Feb 14 2019, 07:12 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Feb 14 2019, 04:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 14 2019, 05:51 PM) *

And trust me, no one wishes 912's were selling for more, more then me, as they said in Top Gun, the pattern is full...


To be fair, those cars are kind of rough.

No argument there, but a few years ago even the rough 912's were bringing over $10,000, so decent money makers. But now turd boxes are selling for $5000-6000, so that makes for slim margins. No matter, they will just sit in the back lot until the market comes back, 356's are still strong, so I guess we will pumping 356's this year.

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 14 2019, 07:15 PM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 14 2019, 08:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Feb 14 2019, 04:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 14 2019, 05:51 PM) *

And trust me, no one wishes 912's were selling for more, more then me, as they said in Top Gun, the pattern is full...


To be fair, those cars are kind of rough.

No argument there, but a few years ago even the rough 912's were bringing over $10,000, so decent money makers. But now turd boxes are selling for $5000-6000, so that makes for slim margins. No matter, they will just sit in the back lot until the market comes back, 356's are still strong, so I guess we will pumping 356's this year.


356's it is then!

Posted by: thelogo Feb 14 2019, 07:49 PM

[quote name='Larmo63' date='Feb 14 2019, 05:04 PM' post='2689118']
I have had my eye on a Bahama Yellow '67 912 in my neighborhood for quite a while. Very tidy original paint car with nice looking deep sixes and the chrome steel wheels come with it. Rebuilt engine. Nice car.




















Time capsules in great condition is a whole different
Story .




Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 09:14 PM

Love the various responses....

This lad who owns the car is not yet out and about selling it--thus I don't want to scare him off.

I need to slowly approach and maybe have cash in hand on a good day...

In summary, please answer the following:
Based on your subject matter expertise or lack there of, what year, what model, what wheel base would be the most likely car to get from the bunch...

let me see if I can create a poll with the POLL option....

I created it.... hope it shows when I post this... confused24.gif



Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Feb 14 2019, 09:24 PM

The only 912 that's ever commanded a premium is the early painted dash 65 cars. They hold a special place because they are seen as a true bridge from the 356 which also had painted dashes. Other than that 912's have always sold based on the qualities of the car, not on any one year, even the one year only 69 LWB.



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Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 14 2019, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 07:14 PM) *

Love the various responses....

This lad who owns the car is not yet out and about selling it--thus I don't want to scare him off.

I need to slowly approach and maybe have cash in hand on a good day...

In summary, please answer the following:
Based on your subject matter expertise or lack there of, what year, what model, what wheel base would be the most likely car to get from the bunch...

let me see if I can create a poll with the POLL option....

I created it.... hope it shows when I post this... confused24.gif

It did not yet. In answer to your question I would say in order of value it would go #1 1965 painted dash, #2 any '66 3 gauge, #3 1969 long wheelbase. I expect some disagreement on this. :-)

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 14 2019, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 07:28 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 07:14 PM) *

Love the various responses....

This lad who owns the car is not yet out and about selling it--thus I don't want to scare him off.

I need to slowly approach and maybe have cash in hand on a good day...

In summary, please answer the following:
Based on your subject matter expertise or lack there of, what year, what model, what wheel base would be the most likely car to get from the bunch...

let me see if I can create a poll with the POLL option....

I created it.... hope it shows when I post this... confused24.gif

It did not yet. In answer to your question I would say in order of value it would go #1 1965 painted dash, #2 any '66 3 gauge, #3 1969 long wheelbase. I expect some disagreement on this. :-)


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Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2019, 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 10:28 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 07:14 PM) *

Love the various responses....

This lad who owns the car is not yet out and about selling it--thus I don't want to scare him off.

I need to slowly approach and maybe have cash in hand on a good day...

In summary, please answer the following:
Based on your subject matter expertise or lack there of, what year, what model, what wheel base would be the most likely car to get from the bunch...

let me see if I can create a poll with the POLL option....

I created it.... hope it shows when I post this... confused24.gif

It did not yet. In answer to your question I would say in order of value it would go #1 1965 painted dash, #2 any '66 3 gauge, #3 1969 long wheelbase. I expect some disagreement on this. :-)

The 65 is early - cool in itself. The '66 is my birth year so it makes it the best year. The 67 would be great for a 911R clone. The 68 has some cool 1 year parts. The 69 is LWB so desirable for that. So unless you have a particular. "have to have" year, it's still pick the best car you can afford.

I'm hoping to find a '66 without an engine so I don't have to even think about keeping it original.

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 14 2019, 10:55 PM

Buy on condition, but SWB are a cool link between 356 and 911.


Posted by: infraredcalvin Feb 14 2019, 11:07 PM

IMO - any of the SWB, I do like the 65/66 the best though. Still dream of building a SWB 6 conversion.

I’d put that supertech 2.7 in there and never look back...

Posted by: 914_7T3 Feb 14 2019, 11:40 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Feb 14 2019, 03:25 PM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 02:05 PM) *

I have no problem with someone getting their dream car and driving it . But lets talk reality



Hagerty are clowns

As in not in touch with reality.




""" take some advice from a old tracker, you wanna find something?
Use your eyes ! "

Mel in firefly







Ok guys now shake your dicks , this pissing contest is over ...

Says the only guy entered in the contest. So I can't quite tell, are you saying Hagerty's prices are inflated or too low? Are you accusing them of being willing to pay, in the event of a loss, well over market for a car just so they can get an extra $12 a year in premium? confused24.gif


https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/02/13/porsche-912-is-relatively-affordable?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=19_Porsche_Winter_Supplement



Posted by: Racer Feb 15 2019, 07:14 AM

Same perks of an early 911 but without the power.
Same pitfalls of an early 911 (rust) but without the power.

Same pitfalls as any car being thought of (bought as) "an investment". That's a tricky word with lots of caveats.

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 15 2019, 07:53 AM

QUOTE(Racer @ Feb 15 2019, 08:14 AM) *

Same perks of an early 911 but without the power.
Same pitfalls of an early 911 (rust) but without the power.

Same pitfalls as any car being thought of (bought as) "an investment". That's a tricky word with lots of caveats.


Well said, buy to use and enjoy. The good Doctor would appreciate that.

Posted by: BK911 Feb 15 2019, 09:43 AM

I have owned 3 912s and sold 2.
Still have a 912E.
I would pay $20k for a nice driver in a heartbeat.
For me the lack of power is no big deal, I am not a street racer.
Plenty fast enough for me to get to and from work.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 15 2019, 10:28 AM

QUOTE(BK911 @ Feb 15 2019, 10:43 AM) *

I have owned 3 912s and sold 2.
Still have a 912E.
I would pay $20k for a nice driver in a heartbeat.
For me the lack of power is no big deal, I am not a street racer.
Plenty fast enough for me to get to and from work.


I like the early 911/912's because they are the smallest and lightest of the 901 body type and I like small sports cars. If money was no object I would do an aluminum case 2.0 hotrod engine but I would be satisfied with a built type 4 just to keep the back end light.

Posted by: Stoddy Feb 15 2019, 03:13 PM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 14 2019, 04:51 PM) *

And trust me, no one wishes 912's were selling for more, more then me, as they said in Top Gun, the pattern is full...



I'll take the white one!

shades.gif Could you post to UK?)

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Posted by: tomh Feb 15 2019, 04:00 PM

As much as the air cooled Porsche’s have gone up in recent years I would never consider a car an investment unless you’re in a position to deal in the uber rare and have loads of disposable money.
My 2 cents

Posted by: ssuperflyoldguy Feb 15 2019, 07:43 PM

QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 14 2019, 12:55 PM) *

QUOTE(R8CERX @ Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM) *

Folks

Curious if you know what a fair condition 912 could go for? any special year? what to look for or stay away?

I realize this AINT a 912 website, but many of you are experts in all soooo many areas...

I don't have details, but I am thinking that a 912 may be a good investment for the right price as they are not yet in the $30K range? air-cooled, simple, nice looking body, fuchs, etc... popcorn[1].gif





No offesnse man
But your totally miss informed about the 912.


About 10 years ago was the time to buy one up not now.
I have seen nothing but really expensive 912 s for sale that range in condition from need total resto to rough drivers , going for really high asking price.

By the time you find and buy one of these . Fix and restore it
You are gonna be sad you did , just to sell it off or drive it around ?


Im not seeing how it can make sense , financially or fun factor ?




https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerland-porschecoupe/6801158050.html

This actually looks like a nice car but 20k

Once you start paying for future collector value.

I check out as a buyer .

If offer the guy 12k and thats still pretty risky

He won't take $12k - shell is prob worth @ $10k & engine at least $7k - just sold one in way worse condition. I think that SB CL one is worth looking at.

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Feb 15 2019, 11:55 PM

This is an interesting one, if you wanted to do a hot rod.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1021175-1966-porsche-912-6-73-5-7r-mag-case-2-4-steel-flared-run-drive.html

Nowhere to go but up in terms of styling.

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 16 2019, 11:29 PM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 15 2019, 09:55 PM) *

This is an interesting one, if you wanted to do a hot rod.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1021175-1966-porsche-912-6-73-5-7r-mag-case-2-4-steel-flared-run-drive.html

Nowhere to go but up in terms of styling.


Interesting build--for me over the top

I like the original look and even the 4 banger.... thanks for sharing... biggrin.gif

Posted by: mepstein Feb 17 2019, 08:57 AM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Feb 16 2019, 12:55 AM) *

This is an interesting one, if you wanted to do a hot rod.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1021175-1966-porsche-912-6-73-5-7r-mag-case-2-4-steel-flared-run-drive.html

Nowhere to go but up in terms of styling.

We buy cars like that all the time for hotrod/outlaw projects. As long as it's the right price, it's a great base but I'm thinking low teens for that car.

Just like the 916 bumpers that get put on our cars, there's a good chance the 912 took a front hit and got the slope nose treatment.

Posted by: R8CERX Feb 17 2019, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Feb 14 2019, 09:07 PM) *

IMO - any of the SWB, I do like the 65/66 the best though. Still dream of building a SWB 6 conversion.

I’d put that supertech 2.7 in there and never look back...



Oh trust me.... it has crossed my mind multiple times.. piratenanner.gif
…. even in the original six at one time, but once I start messing with the original six, I think is downhill from there! blink.gif

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