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Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 14 2019, 05:03 PM

I have an oil leak positively identified with the use of leak tracer dye and UV light dead center on top of the oil pump. I have installed a new 36 mm type one oil pump modified for the type 4. I also applied a generous amount of my favorite gasket sealer yet the leak remains. It will only leak with the engine running which indicates to me it is under pressure. My theory is that the case halves may not have had enough sealer on them during engine asssembly.
My question then is how do I seal this thing without splitting the case?
Can I apply sealant to the circumference of the oil pump?



Any thoughts or experiences appreciated.

Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 14 2019, 05:24 PM

A 36mm oil pump, sheesh that's pretty big. Too much pressure?

Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 14 2019, 05:29 PM

Maybe? Purchased from the type 4 store. Only option.

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 14 2019, 06:24 PM

Really?

That must be leaking around the pump pretty good!
Why it's the wrong pump to use.

I use the shadek pumps, 26mm on my big T4, 30mm needs a pressure relief cover.
Shadeks quality is good except for the case hole size, I now run a thin bead of yamabond inside the case hole past the galley holes. Real thin bead because most of it will be squeezed into the case, a small amount of yamabond will stay put.
Yamabond, hondabond, threebond basically the same,the gray stuff all made by Threebond, IIRC Threebond 1104 NEO

You could try cleaning it up good, including inside the hole as best you can, and a thin bead of yamabond inside and out of the case in this area. Only put the yamabond where you're 100% positive it's 100% clean and degreased.

If that doesn't work nothing short of splitting the case will work.
If you split the case I'd inspect that area.

Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 14 2019, 06:44 PM

Thanks, Mark, I’ll try that.
I suppose I can find this yamabond and the local auto parts store?

Unless I overlooked it the 30 mm oil pump was my only option at the type4 store online.
I did multiple searches and read many threads suggesting the 26 mm pump. I was ina bit of a hurry so I went with the 30.

Reminds me of an old saying “There is never enough time to do it right but always enough time to do it over”

Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 14 2019, 06:49 PM

I just realized I had said 36 mm when it was really 30mm.

Posted by: porschetub Apr 14 2019, 06:50 PM

Besides the wrong pump,sealing face on the case looks pretty dirty...just saying.

Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 14 2019, 07:26 PM

Yeah, I didn’t clean all the old sealer off before I took the picture.
It’ll be clean before reassembly.
I’ll try and remove the studs and flatten it as best I can.
Fortunately this is in a 912e so it’s pretty easy to get to!

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 15 2019, 07:34 AM

You're going to have to dump that oil. clean, clean, clean!

Yamabond you have to go to a Yamaha bike dealer, amazon or evilbay for Threebond 1104 neo.

Posted by: 3stewarts Apr 17 2019, 07:57 PM

Thanks for you help Mark. One more question:
When using “yamabond” sealant, do you still put the gasket in place?
Seems like ya wouldn’t, just want to be sure.

Posted by: 3stewarts May 1 2019, 05:35 PM

Happy to report the sealer did the trick!

I applied a thin layer along the case seam on top plus the thin layer upon the “gasket surface”. So far so good!

Thanks again to all who offered advice.