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Posted by: amfab Apr 23 2019, 10:12 PM

So this past weekend I was using a little torch to heat up—and more than occasionally set on fire—the seam sealer so I could scrape off the big globs of it all over the car. I came to realize that the foam people speak of in the rear corner of the car is just put in there and covered with seam sealer.
How do the cool kids deal with this area when restoring?

Thanks

-Andrew

Posted by: Chief Apr 24 2019, 01:33 AM

I dug the expanded foam out. Then used plenty of etch primer, finally 3M stonechip and finished with body colour. I can understand why the factory used the foam method, but if compromised the rot sets in very quickly.

Posted by: defianty Apr 24 2019, 03:07 AM

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I dug the expanded foam out. Then used plenty of etch primer, finally 3M stonechip and finished with body colour. I can understand why the factory used the foam method, but if compromised the rot sets in very quickly.


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One of my corners had rotten through and I had to replace the area above the indicator. I pulled out the foam from both sides. Lots of epoxy primer and then my entire underside is coated in a product similar to Raptor. I left my underside black but that's just my preference.

Posted by: mepstein Apr 24 2019, 04:13 AM

Long screwdriver to chip it out.

Posted by: 914dave Apr 24 2019, 05:44 AM

I used great stuff foam to replace the original. If you don’t reapply the foam, that area created a little shelf where mud and dirt will accumulate. If you don’t reapply it just clean the area about occasionally.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 24 2019, 05:46 AM

I spray the foam with carb cleaner. It just melts away.........


Once it dries, I paint with rustoleum.


Posted by: BeatNavy Apr 24 2019, 06:55 AM

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I spray the foam with carb cleaner. It just melts away.........


Once it dries, I paint with rustoleum.

That is a good tip. I chiseled it out of my project car, and it was surprisingly difficult to get it all out. May have to try this trick on my driver...

Here's the biggest chunk that came out of my project car. Looks all ancient and fossilized.
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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 24 2019, 07:27 AM

QUOTE(914dave @ Apr 24 2019, 04:44 AM) *

I used great stuff foam to replace the original. If you don’t reapply the foam, that area created a little shelf where mud and dirt will accumulate. If you don’t reapply it just clean the area about occasionally.


I just did the repair to fix a big rust hole caused by the foam and was concerned about this very thing - the shelf, that is. Good to know folks are able to address this in various ways w/out "refoaming".

Posted by: bbrock Apr 24 2019, 08:22 AM

QUOTE(914dave @ Apr 24 2019, 05:44 AM) *

I used great stuff foam to replace the original. If you don’t reapply the foam, that area created a little shelf where mud and dirt will accumulate. If you don’t reapply it just clean the area about occasionally.


This is my concern. I have 3 miles of gravel road to drive before hitting any pavement. I'm thinking caked mud is going to cause rust faster than the foam with good body sealer over it. There is a special body foam you can buy. After digging the foam out (wish I'd known the carb cleaner trick), I shot epoxy primer and then Raptor bed liner into the cavities. It is still a dirt trap though so I'm probably going to fill with body foam and sealer and just add checking the condition of the sealer to my maintenance routine.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 24 2019, 11:39 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Apr 24 2019, 02:07 AM) *

QUOTE(Chief @ Apr 24 2019, 08:33 AM) *

I dug the expanded foam out. Then used plenty of etch primer, finally 3M stonechip and finished with body colour. I can understand why the factory used the foam method, but if compromised the rot sets in very quickly.

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Posted by: amfab Apr 24 2019, 11:45 AM

Thanks everyone, Ill try the carb cleaner to get the last bits out then just leave it open and Raptor it all. It is now a SoCal car so if I clean it out once in a while I should be ok.

-Andrew

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 24 2019, 12:18 PM

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This is my concern. I have 3 miles of gravel road to drive before hitting any pavement. I'm thinking caked mud is going to cause rust faster than the foam with good body sealer over it. There is a special body foam you can buy. After digging the foam out (wish I'd known the carb cleaner trick), I shot epoxy primer and then Raptor bed liner into the cavities. It is still a dirt trap though so I'm probably going to fill with body foam and sealer and just add checking the condition of the sealer to my maintenance routine.


Fender Liners,,914 rubber

https://shop.914rubber.com/Fender-liners-set-of-4-with-mount-clips-914FL4.htm;jsessionid=842BFB85BEC46E7719278A5A90F130DA.p3plqscsfapp001

Posted by: rudedude Apr 24 2019, 07:27 PM

I am waiting for a set of their fender liners for exactly the same reason, a 2 mile gravel drive. Dug out all the foam, cleaned up the rust, epoxy primed and sealed with seam sealer. Hope it all helps. Ordered the fender liners a few weeks ago and was told it would be a few weeks so hopefully soon.

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