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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 9 2019, 10:37 PM

It looks like i blew out two of my Koni adjustable shocks this weekend on those fine SoCal freeways. Both the drivers side front and rear are leaking a lot of oil out the top.
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Anyways, i remember that some years ago they were hard to come by and all the major outlets had them listed but actually didn't have any in stock.


Anyone had any luck lately in buying a full set somewhere?
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Posted by: 914_7T3 Jun 9 2019, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 9 2019, 09:37 PM) *

It looks like i blew out two of my Koni adjustable shocks this weekend on those fine SoCal freeways. Both the drivers side front and rear are leaking a lot of oil out the top.
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Anyways, i remember that some years ago they were hard to come by and all the major outlets had them listed but actually didn't have any in stock.


Anyone had any luck lately in buying a full set somewhere?
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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 Picked up a set of fronts last June from Pelican and they were in stock so you can try there.

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Posted by: Krieger Jun 9 2019, 11:12 PM

I think it was the Red shocks that were hard to come by. They may have stopped making them a few years back. The Yellow Sports were still available last I checked. PSI at Sears Point can rebuild your old ones, but it's not cheap.

Posted by: 914_7T3 Jun 9 2019, 11:15 PM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Jun 9 2019, 10:12 PM) *

I think it was the Red shocks that were hard to come by. They may have stopped making them a few years back. The Yellow Sports were still available last I checked. PSI at Sears Point can rebuild your old ones, but it's not cheap.



Yes, the fronts are yellow, but used a rebuilt set of reds in the rear.

Posted by: koozy Jun 10 2019, 03:21 AM

Andy, Tire Rack has them. Link below gets you to both fronts and rears in a Tire Rack search

https://tinyurl.com/yyosqo6s

Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 10 2019, 06:20 AM

Red rears are NLA. Porsche does have the adjustable rears in black BUT they are NOT external adjustment. Koni front reds are available as Koni Classic but they are NOT external adjustment either. All Koni yellows are GAS shocks.

I have a set of NOS Front Koni's but they have to be adjusted before installation.

Posted by: roblav1 Jun 10 2019, 07:05 AM

You can get those rebuilt somewhere. Shock oil and seals is about it. Years ago, TruChoice used to do them.

Posted by: jcd914 Jun 10 2019, 08:38 AM

Koni's used to carry a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser.
They had to be sent to a specific place (maybe Truchoice) and you had to have your receipt to show you were the original purchaser. I had a set that lost gas pressure and they replaced them.

No idea if that is still their policy.

Jim

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 10 2019, 09:32 AM

I bought some yellows on ebay. they were pretty cheap and fit right in my struts.

Those roads are crap crap crap.....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Koni-8641-1039SPORT-Yellow-Front-Sport-Shock-For-Porsche-911-912/132312378867?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Posted by: bdstone914 Jun 10 2019, 10:03 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

I have used Koni rear red rear you can have for shipping cost. Maybe a pair of inserts

They are old style oil filled. Might have a usable pair. Or use these to get rebuilt and then swap them out.
Koni availability is hit and miss on new inserts and shocks. Used to have to call them when I worked at Pelican to verify actual availability.
You are better off with new shocks all around.

Bruce

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2019, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jun 10 2019, 05:20 AM) *
Red rears are NLA. Porsche does have the adjustable rears in black BUT they are NOT external adjustment. Koni front reds are available as Koni Classic but they are NOT external adjustment either. All Koni yellows are GAS shocks.
I have a set of NOS Front Koni's but they have to be adjusted before installation.

They are the yellow ones that have the external adjuster on top and i too thought they were GAS shocks but both of them are leaking OIL from the top.

So now i'm more confused than usual ...
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Posted by: jkb944t Jun 10 2019, 11:09 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 10 2019, 12:25 PM) *

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jun 10 2019, 05:20 AM) *
Red rears are NLA. Porsche does have the adjustable rears in black BUT they are NOT external adjustment. Koni front reds are available as Koni Classic but they are NOT external adjustment either. All Koni yellows are GAS shocks.
I have a set of NOS Front Koni's but they have to be adjusted before installation.

They are the yellow ones that have the external adjuster on top and i too thought they were GAS shocks but both of them are leaking OIL from the top.

So now i'm more confused than usual ...
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Gas shocks do have oil in them. A gas charged shock or strut uses high-pressure nitrogen gas to reduce oil foaming during high-speed damping, and therefore maintains performance.

Jeff B

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Jun 10 2019, 01:21 PM

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jun 10 2019, 05:20 AM) *

Koni front reds are available as Koni Classic but they are NOT external adjustment either.


Took a look at their site, but unable to find them there. Ideas for other sources online? Would like to get a look at these, as I am considering having a pair of rear reds rebuilt but need red fronts. If the new ones include spindles… idea.gif

Everyone tells me the Bilstein HDs I installed are the superior shock absorber, but my butt dyno suggests Koni reds are very hard to beat on the street short of the exotic stuff like JRZ, etc, which can be wonderful once you figure out how to dial them in. Sometimes, KISS really is the way to go.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 10 2019, 01:27 PM

Just posted some Koni Reds for sale in classified.

Posted by: michael7810 Jun 10 2019, 01:28 PM

PSI rebuilt my 944 Koni yellows a couple years ago. Can’t remember the cost but it wasn’t bad.

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2019, 01:57 PM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Jun 9 2019, 10:12 PM) *
PSI at Sears Point can rebuild your old ones, but it's not cheap.

I'll get in touch with them and see how much they want. They're just up the road from me ...
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Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 10 2019, 02:00 PM

good ole Paragon Products
https://www.paragon-products.com/Porsche-914-Shocks-Struts-s/284.htm

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2019, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jun 10 2019, 01:00 PM) *

good ole Paragon Products
https://www.paragon-products.com/Porsche-914-Shocks-Struts-s/284.htm

I know who *lists* them, that's not the problem.

I'd like to know who actually has them in stock, hence my original question asking if anyone had any luck actually getting any lately.
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Posted by: eeyore Jun 10 2019, 03:06 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jun 10 2019, 12:00 PM) *

good ole Paragon Products
https://www.paragon-products.com/Porsche-914-Shocks-Struts-s/284.htm


How could you expect the OP to do something as difficult as pick a phone and call vendors?

Posted by: johnlush Jun 10 2019, 03:11 PM

Last ones I got were from Paragon. The owner (as far as I know he still is) is Jason Burkett who is a fellow enthusiast and a great source of information. Might be worth pinging him...


QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jun 10 2019, 02:00 PM) *

good ole Paragon Products
https://www.paragon-products.com/Porsche-914-Shocks-Struts-s/284.htm

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2019, 03:15 PM

QUOTE(eeyore @ Jun 10 2019, 02:06 PM) *
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jun 10 2019, 12:00 PM) *

good ole Paragon Products
https://www.paragon-products.com/Porsche-914-Shocks-Struts-s/284.htm
How could you expect the OP to do something as difficult as pick a phone and call vendors?

I could just randomly call a gazillion people OR ask a question here and hopefully narrow down the targets.

Anyways, from the constructive feedback posted above your post, it looks like Paragon might be a good candidate ...
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Posted by: bigkensteele Jun 10 2019, 03:19 PM

I knew that red rears were adjustable before installation. Are the red fronts as well?

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 10 2019, 03:21 PM

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jun 10 2019, 02:19 PM) *

I knew that red rears were adjustable before installation. Are the red fronts as well?


Yes, push down all the way and turn left or right to adjust the reds.

Posted by: Olympic 914 Jun 10 2019, 04:04 PM

Back in February I got a set of Koni adjustables for the rear from Ground Control.

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They had the shocks in stock, but I had a wait for the springs to come in.

Posted by: michael7810 Jun 10 2019, 04:30 PM

QUOTE(michael7810 @ Jun 10 2019, 12:28 PM) *

PSI rebuilt my 944 Koni yellows a couple years ago. Can’t remember the cost but it wasn’t bad.


Just checked - PSI charged $550 shipped to rebuild 944 front sport struts

Posted by: Krieger Jun 10 2019, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Jun 10 2019, 03:04 PM) *

Back in February I got a set of Koni adjustables for the rear from Ground Control.

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They had the shocks in stock, but I had a wait for the springs to come in.



Thems yella! He wants red adjustable.

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2019, 06:40 PM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Jun 10 2019, 05:31 PM) *
Thems yella! He wants red adjustable.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104

No, no i don't. I never mentioned red. In fact, i did say that i have yellow ones at one point.
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Posted by: Krieger Jun 10 2019, 07:38 PM

Between both of our red cars I really got locked into red! lol-2.gif I have reds on my 4 and yellows on my 6. Both adjustable. I like them both. My 6 seems to ride a little better. But my six does have stiffer springs all around, poly bronze bushings and more suspension travel in the front.

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 10 2019, 08:34 PM

Who wants reds over yellow?

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Jun 10 2019, 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jun 10 2019, 07:34 PM) *

Who wants reds over yellow?


That'd be me. slap.gif

Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 11 2019, 07:45 AM

Anyone want rear reds for a 911? Most definitely need rebuild, leaking.
Free + shipping

But it does depend on if I can find where I put them. wink.gif

Posted by: markhoward Jun 11 2019, 08:36 AM

Try TSM Enhanced in Arizona. Much cheaper than Performance Shock. Seems they are mainly focused on motorcycle shocks but also do automotive. Have not used them yet but called a while back about redoing red 914 koni's. Pretty sure this was the place.. http://www.tsmenhanced.net/SERVICES.htm

Posted by: bdstone914 Jun 11 2019, 09:03 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

What front suspension do you have?

914 or 911?
If 911 what year and do you have Boge, or Koni struts in the front ?
If you have stock 914 Boge struts, Pelican has all in stock.

Wes works at Pelican and can help you with an order. Contact me by PM for details.
Or email him at whuetten@pelicanparts dot com.

Bruce

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 11 2019, 10:14 AM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Jun 11 2019, 08:03 AM) *

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179
What front suspension do you have?
914 or 911?
If 911 what year and do you have Boge, or Koni struts in the front ?
If you have stock 914 Boge struts, Pelican has all in stock.
Wes works at Pelican and can help you with an order. Contact me by PM for details.
Or email him at whuetten@pelicanparts dot com.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1319

911 front end with yellow Koni's, got the yellow ones on all 4 corners ...
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