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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ 1939 Type 64
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 17 2019, 10:35 AM
I am putting this topic up to talk about this amazing piece of car history here, which is just a tad under a month away. This is going to be exciting to watch and witness. Consider this a shop talk conversation 
My estimation would be 15-20m and I would not be surprised it went much higher.
-Ed
Posted by: wes Jul 17 2019, 10:37 AM
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum!
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 17 2019, 10:43 AM
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum!
Maybe VW group or Porsche will buy it and put it in a museum. This is going to truly be a bidder war.
Posted by: Beeliner Jul 17 2019, 10:53 AM
My first thought is it should be in the Porsche Museum!
Maybe VW group or Porsche will buy it and put it in a museum. This is going to truly be a bidder war.
I remember Locomobile #16, the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup winner, being restored at my friend Manny's. The Ford Museum bought it, so don't despair....
Why not text-email- etc. to Porshe Corporate and suggest they acquire it?
Posted by: sb914 Jul 17 2019, 11:08 AM
In May 1945 American troops discovered the one put in storage, cut the roof off and used it for joyriding for a few weeks until the engine gave up and it was scrapped. The last remaining Porsche 64 was owned by Ferry Porsche who had it restored by Battista Farina in 1947. In 1949 it was sold to the Austrian motorcycle racer Otto Mathé and with it he won the Alpine Rally in 1950. The last time he drove it in a race was at the Monterey Historic Automobile Races in Monterey, California, in 1982.[citation needed] The one that was scrapped has also been rebuilt and is now on display in the Peterson Automotive Museum in Los Angeles, CA, shown on MotorWeek S37 Ep32 on 4/13/18.[2]
Posted by: SirAndy Jul 17 2019, 11:52 AM
https://www.porscheroadandrace.com/porsche-type-64-a-star-is-born/
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 17 2019, 12:43 PM
In May 1945 American troops discovered the one put in storage, cut the roof off and used it for joyriding for a few weeks until the engine gave up and it was scrapped.
That story never gets old
-Ed
Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 17 2019, 07:09 PM
there will be more...and there are others..it will live on...
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Porsche-berlin-rome-type-64k10-replica-1387954311449365/posts/
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 17 2019, 10:15 PM
there will be more...and there are others..it will live on...
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Porsche-berlin-rome-type-64k10-replica-1387954311449365/posts/
It will certainly live on, but not the link you provided
Cool article @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179
-Ed
Posted by: 90quattrocoupe Jul 18 2019, 12:52 AM
Willows Springs Raceway.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 18 2019, 12:59 AM
not trying to defile the history,,,iust saying, its the subject of several body builders...the OG ones are awesome, but the one is rebuilt..all good just noticed it in the back of a few ,,,metal smiths..shops
Posted by: Dion Jul 18 2019, 08:49 AM
I need this as a poster for the garage. So cool.
Attached thumbnail(s)
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 18 2019, 06:03 PM
I need this as a poster for the garage. So cool.
I like this picture too:
Totally Porsche PCA guy mancave/house art.
-Ed
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 15 2019, 06:22 PM
Check this article out guys. A buddy told me about it. According to Frank Jung, head of the historical archives in Porsche, and Andy Prill, a mechanical engineer and owner of Prill Porsche Classics in England, says this is not the “first” Porsche. Here comes the controversy:
Bloomberg Article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-02/porsche-type-64-rm-sotheby-s-pebble-beach-auction-controversy
Now this is making me think that this is just a publicity stunt 
Going to watch the auction and see what happens this weekend.
-Ed
Posted by: Bruce Edge Aug 18 2019, 09:39 AM
Did anyone watch the auction.
A very confused mess to me. I'm not even sure the car sold. I'm also thinking it was all
an intended stunt. Such a significant car, looks like they could have done a classier job than that IMHO..
Bruce e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LRE7kXcUvA
Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 18 2019, 09:57 AM
$17,000,000.00...........?
Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 18 2019, 10:03 AM
Yep and Pulled. Good write up on Bloomberg. The pundits were a little overly optimistic. Sounds like the auction on this car was a mess.
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 18 2019, 10:31 AM
Good read for your morning coffee, who has the guts to write a headline like that! 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-18/type-64-nazi-car-by-porsche-fails-to-sell-amid-auction-blunder
Quote I snipped out from the article:
Kinda typical Porsche snobbery downgrading it because it has Volkswagen parts. They obviously don’t know early Porsche/VW history.
Sotheby’s definitely got greedy and tried to purposely inflate the market. Isn’t that called stock manipulation? Collectors and investors are upset.
I don’t know if the “first” Porsche is a correct description
-Ed
Posted by: dirk2056 Aug 18 2019, 06:31 PM
R&M can sell a $ 500 wreck but total screwed up a $ 10,000,000 plus car sounds
like the Audi Union Car a few years ago????
Posted by: Tdskip Aug 18 2019, 07:07 PM
Apparently the auction started at a crazy high number by mistake and then they had to reverse it and at that point in time there were confusied bids being placed. The whole thing just was a mess.
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 18 2019, 07:14 PM
Apparently the auction started at a crazy high number by mistake and then they had to reverse it and at that point in time there were confusied bids being placed. The whole thing just was a mess.
the auctioneer could not puntuacion english correctly.....listen ,, one bid is seventeen million........sotheby's should be embarrassed...........mush mouth in the usa
Posted by: Sm914650 Aug 18 2019, 08:12 PM
Apparently the auction started at a crazy high number by mistake and then they had to reverse it and at that point in time there were confusied bids being placed. The whole thing just was a mess.
the auctioneer could not puntuacion english correctly.....listen ,, one bid is seventeen million........sotheby's should be embarrassed...........mush mouth in the usa
Yea but the people bidding had to think they were also bidding 30,40,50,60M...it doesnt add up at all
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 18 2019, 08:22 PM
Apparently the auction started at a crazy high number by mistake and then they had to reverse it and at that point in time there were confusied bids being placed. The whole thing just was a mess.
the auctioneer could not puntuacion english correctly.....listen ,, one bid is seventeen million........sotheby's should be embarrassed...........mush mouth in the usa
Yea but the people bidding had to think they were also bidding 30,40,50,60M...it doesnt add up at all
well the person in charge of posting bids, also could not understand him..causing all the confusion,,
Posted by: JawjaPorsche Aug 19 2019, 12:13 PM
The number was displayed on the screen, then followed by bids of $40 million, $50 million, $60 million and $70 million. At least that’s what it sounded like.
“It says seventy, guys, it’s seventeen,” he then said, garnering a round of jeers and causing several people to walk out on the event.
“My pronunciation,” he added.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/oldest-porsche-auctions-70-million-mistake
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