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Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 21 2019, 09:45 PM
We are starting to plan the trip to and from Okteenerfest.
If you would like to travel with us, just let us know. The more the merrier. Any and all suggestions, ideas, etc.. are greatly appreciated.
We have been to Okteenerfest multiple times, and twice to Banner Elk, so here are the gotchas.
1. Registration in Banner Elk on Thursday is usually 3 to 7 in the afternoon/evening. It's better to get there early rather than late because registering on Friday is a pain in the ass. It's a lot more fun to get there early enough to get settled in, meet people, and figure out dinner. We normally make Wednesday a long day, and Thursday a short day of driving.
2. The time change. Around Rockwood, TN, on highway 40, we lose an hour. It bit us hard a couple years ago.
3. Anyone who is pulling a trailer is going to need a safe place to park when we stop for the night, both there and back.
4. Leaving DFW, Betty and I are going to trailer one car, and drive another, both trying to clear Dallas morning rush hour traffic to get to I-30 headed east. A long first day favors leaving early.
Questions for the group.
What time are y'all comfortable leaving in the morning? We found that leaving at 7am works for us.
In the past we have found hotels that were running $60 to $80 a night. What is a comfortable price range for a hotel for y'all?
Posted by: scottthephotog Jul 22 2019, 12:18 PM
Looking forward to Okteenerfest and caravaning sounds fun. My wife and I have family in the Carolinas and have made the I-20 trip to South Carolina many times. We've always done it in one shot (about 15 hours). I'm guessing we'd be taking I-30 to I-40 in Little Rock, and then it's pretty much I-40 to Banner Elk. I've driven that before but it's been a while.
I like the idea of arriving on the early side of check-in. It leaves some flexibility and we won't feel rushed to arrive on time. Roughly where do you think you'll want to stop for t Wednesday evening? After about 9-10 hours of driving? Are you thinking a similar idea for the return trip of splitting it across 2 days?
My wife and I are comfortable leaving at any time. Morning/night, early/late. Doesn't really matter to either of us. We've left at 6 am and 6 pm in the past for 15-hour drives. Where would you want to leave from?
In regards to hotel price, that seems fine.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 27 2019, 06:46 AM
Anyone else going with us?
Posted by: michael7810 Jul 27 2019, 12:20 PM
I’m taking a northern route this year thru Wichita and Bowling Green. See you in NC
Posted by: wvspin2 Jul 27 2019, 08:53 PM
Hi all,
We're excited about Okteenerfest. 
We can be ready to leave anytime in the morning. We would prefer to take two days as a minimum for the long drive to Banner Elk. We are towing our 914 for comfort, it's a project and still in progress. I think we can be ready to leave by 7am in the morning. Hotel fees of $60-$80 per night are fine with us. I guess we need to make reservations quickly. We are the newbies so we are open to suggestions. Help, what's the plan? Where do you usually stop for the night? I really don't have a lot of insight to add right now, but look forward to making this trip with the group.
Warren
Posted by: Betty Jul 28 2019, 01:56 PM
Here's what we're thinking so far - totally open to any and all suggestions!
On The first travel day (Wednesday) hotel arrival time that night isn't as critical so morning leave time can be fluid as Warren and Karen can come our direction, stop and meet up with us. From there we head towards Dallas on 635, stopping again to meet up with Scott and Katie - or - we all pick a place over by Scott and Katie and just meet up there? From there it's get to Highway 30 and go east.
We're suggesting stopping for the night in Hurricane Mills TN. That makes for a little over 9 hour drive the first day. There are about 3-4 hotels in Hurricane Mills with some restaurants to pick from. If that works for everybody, we'd pick the Days Inn (15415 Highway 13 S, I-40 Exit #143, Hurricane Mills, TN 37078-2358, 1-800-329-1992, actual hotel is 1-931-296-7647) (the price is right and it looks like they have room for trailers to park). The hotels in town are all close together so don't feel obliged to stay where we do - we'll all have each other's cell phone numbers to be able to communicate.
The only sticky parts are going to be Dallas morning rush hour, and Memphis TN afternoon rush hour. We've done Memphis rush hour multiple times, it's definitely easier than DFW but the road quality really, really sucks HARD - which the two driven 914's have to worry about the most. We can all decide if we want to leave DFW earlier or later to minimize rush hour(s), or not?
So, if Hurricane Mills TN works for everybody, I'd recommend we get hotel reservations now?
Scott said he and Katie are both Road Warriors, if they want to drive straight through - more power to you! If you have any issues we'll come and help/rescue when we catch up to you. I always make the joke that long distance miles in a 914 should be counted at least 1 1/2 times regular car miles, so I know I'll need the overnight break in order to arrive in Banner Elk happy and ready to play. 
That makes for just a 6 hour drive on Thursday to Banner Elk - but don't forget we lose one hour due to the time change around Rockwood TN! Depending on when we leave Hurricane Mills, that'll put us in Banner Elk around 4:00 p.m. Early enough to get unloaded, settled in, meeting people and ready to start having an incredible time! 
Seriously; you guys have no idea just how freakin' AWESOME this group of people is! 
Coming back Sunday night we tend to split the drive into two more even driving days - I'm still working on that. 
Posted by: wvspin2 Jul 28 2019, 08:39 PM
Hey y'all this sounds like a plan 
Well if everyone is on board with this plan, 
than I guess we should make reservations at Hurricane Mills, TN at Day's Inn. We're good with Day's Inn. Is everyone ok with this location? 
So we just need to work on and fine tune the details 
of meeting up and striking out to Banner Elk.
Betty, this all sounds good to us. We are starting to plan for the appropriate clothing for a trip to the Hills. Any idea what the weather is like there at that time of the year?
Looking forward to this trip! 
Warren
Posted by: IronHillRestorations Jul 28 2019, 09:06 PM
I'd like to say I could be a waypoint, but we're in the process of closing on our property, and moving.
I'm moving my family to east TN next month. I will be staying here in Parsons to work on 914 projects and selling/packing up my shop. I can't come to the even 
Since I'm trying to sell off as much as possible, anyone is welcome to stop by and see if I have anything you might need, actually please do. I'm sure I probably have a truckload of Porsche stuff you need
Unfortunately I can't offer the hospitality I could've just a few months ago. I might be able to offer the studio on a Murphy bed, but that's up in the air too. FWIW I'm 20 mins off I40. I could check out the local motels and see what the rooms look like, if this is of any interest.
Posted by: scottthephotog Jul 29 2019, 12:50 PM
Well, I just lost at least one cylinder on our 914, possibly 2 this past Thursday. No big bangs or anything just started driving progressively worse throughout the day. Started as I got close to work, so I couldn't really turn around. Checked cylinder compression when I got home. 1 & 3 were 115, 2 was 0, and I couldn't get a reading on 4. (I didn't have the patience to fight with trying to get the compression tester hose onto the spark plug hole). No visible damage to the case anywhere, but I haven't taken the engine tin off. Opened up the valve cover and things seem fine in there. Valve are adjusted correctly.
Still trying to figure out what I'm going to do. I had started rebuilding a 2.0L and I've got a decent amount of the parts. (Need a clutch, muffler, exhaust hanger, and heat exchangers.) I've got an appointment with Mayo to redo the heads, and I'm just going to order new cylinder jugs and pistons. The case, while dirty, looks fine and everything turns smoothly.
Either way, the 1.7L is going to have to come out to be fixed or to swap the 2.0L. I'm planning on trying to drop the 1.7L out of the car this coming weekend to get a better idea of what happened. Depending on which engine needs more work, that will decide my course of action. We'll see how much I can get done before September. Hopefully, we'll still be able to make it. If we can't get the 914 running by then, then we might take the 944, or just try again next year.
Posted by: wvspin2 Jul 30 2019, 08:40 PM
Bummer, Por-sche' is a two syllable word. We would like to have you enjoy Okteenerfest. The 944 is a good option if the 914teener can't make the trip. Just do what you can to get it together by travel time. If it won't happen, don't sweat it 
. Take what runs . We want you with us 
. If the 914 isn't up for the trip, come in the 944 
.
btw....We made reservations at the Hurricane Mills Days Inn. We're looking forward to this event. 
Posted by: Betty Aug 1 2019, 11:56 AM
Well, I just lost at least one cylinder on our 914, possibly 2 this past Thursday. No big bangs or anything just started driving progressively worse throughout the day. Started as I got close to work, so I couldn't really turn around. Checked cylinder compression when I got home. 1 & 3 were 115, 2 was 0, and I couldn't get a reading on 4. (I didn't have the patience to fight with trying to get the compression tester hose onto the spark plug hole). No visible damage to the case anywhere, but I haven't taken the engine tin off. Opened up the valve cover and things seem fine in there. Valve are adjusted correctly.
Still trying to figure out what I'm going to do. I had started rebuilding a 2.0L and I've got a decent amount of the parts. (Need a clutch, muffler, exhaust hanger, and heat exchangers.) I've got an appointment with Mayo to redo the heads, and I'm just going to order new cylinder jugs and pistons. The case, while dirty, looks fine and everything turns smoothly.
Either way, the 1.7L is going to have to come out to be fixed or to swap the 2.0L. I'm planning on trying to drop the 1.7L out of the car this coming weekend to get a better idea of what happened. Depending on which engine needs more work, that will decide my course of action. We'll see how much I can get done before September. Hopefully, we'll still be able to make it. If we can't get the 914 running by then, then we might take the 944, or just try again next year.
Dang Scott... it's always an adventure with old cars.
if you need ANYthing - parts (seriously, we've got parts!), help, whatever - call Clay. We'll see if we can get over to help if you need it. It'd be awesome if you guys can make it in the 914, awesome if you can make it in the 944, awesome if you can make it in anything! We'll try to help as much as we can!
Posted by: Betty Aug 1 2019, 12:10 PM
...We are starting to plan for the appropriate clothing for a trip to the Hills. Any idea what the weather is like there at that time of the year?
From the Googles.... average high for September is low 70's, the average low is low 50's. Average rainfall for the month is around 4", over only a few days. it can be a tad humid, but the winds tend to be the lowest.
That time of year is at the start of leaf changing season (all dependent on mother nature of course). Banner Elk's elevation is 3,701'.
If any stops are made at elevation during the Friday drive, a jacket might be welcome.
Posted by: scottthephotog Aug 3 2019, 06:20 PM
Dang Scott... it's always an adventure with old cars.
if you need ANYthing - parts (seriously, we've got parts!), help, whatever - call Clay. We'll see if we can get over to help if you need it. It'd be awesome if you guys can make it in the 914, awesome if you can make it in the 944, awesome if you can make it in anything! We'll try to help as much as we can!
Thanks Betty, I appreciate that. I actually don't have you or Clay's number. I really should get that. I know an exhaust (head exchangers and muffler) for the 2.0L would be good. I can source one off Ebay, but if you guys have one you'd want to part with, I'd appreciate that so I don't have to worry and deal with shipping it. Just let me know so I can order in far enough out it if I need to.
Posted by: wvspin2 Aug 13 2019, 08:02 AM
How are you coming along with your engine resuscitations? 
Can you give us a bref update? I hear their is a good machine shop in Cleburn. I'm here to cheer you on.
Posted by: Literati914 Aug 13 2019, 11:46 AM
Well, I just lost at least one cylinder on our 914, possibly 2 this past Thursday. No big bangs or anything just started driving progressively worse throughout the day. Started as I got close to work, so I couldn't really turn around. Checked cylinder compression when I got home. 1 & 3 were 115, 2 was 0, and I couldn't get a reading on 4. (I didn't have the patience to fight with trying to get the compression tester hose onto the spark plug hole). No visible damage to the case anywhere, but I haven't taken the engine tin off. Opened up the valve cover and things seem fine in there. Valve are adjusted correctly.
Still trying to figure out what I'm going to do. I had started rebuilding a 2.0L and I've got a decent amount of the parts. (Need a clutch, muffler, exhaust hanger, and heat exchangers.) I've got an appointment with Mayo to redo the heads, and I'm just going to order new cylinder jugs and pistons. The case, while dirty, looks fine and everything turns smoothly.
Either way, the 1.7L is going to have to come out to be fixed or to swap the 2.0L. I'm planning on trying to drop the 1.7L out of the car this coming weekend to get a better idea of what happened. Depending on which engine needs more work, that will decide my course of action. We'll see how much I can get done before September. Hopefully, we'll still be able to make it. If we can't get the 914 running by then, then we might take the 944, or just try again next year.
Hey Scott... I'm in Dallas and have a freshly rebuilt 1.7 with Djet and no miles on it - would you be interested in buying, or renting it 'til your 2L is done - or maybe just borrowing it (now til after okteenerfest or so)? that's a serious offer, so just LMK.
Posted by: scottthephotog Aug 13 2019, 01:45 PM
How are you coming along with your engine resuscitations?
Can you give us a bref update? I hear their is a good machine shop in Cleburn. I'm here to cheer you on. It's getting there. Cleaning up the 2.0L case exterior. Inside of the case looks clean. Bearings and connecting rods are in good shape. Everything turns freely. I've got new pistons and jugs ordered. Heads are being redone by Mayo. Talked to them on Friday and they are making good progress. They should be ready in a week. Hopefully, the rest of the parts will be here soon and I can start assembly. While I'm in there, I'm going to install a new flywheel, clutch, and oil cooler.
Hey Scott... I'm in Dallas and have a freshly rebuilt 1.7 with Djet and no miles on it - would you be interested in buying, or renting it 'til your 2L is done - or maybe just borrowing it (now til after okteenerfest or so)? that's a serious offer, so just LMK.
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll keep that in the back of my mind. So far, things seem to be progressing well, but if that changes, I might take you up on that 1.7.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Aug 13 2019, 04:37 PM
How are you coming along with your engine resuscitations?
Can you give us a bref update? I hear their is a good machine shop in Cleburn. I'm here to cheer you on. It's getting there. Cleaning up the 2.0L case exterior. Inside of the case looks clean. Bearings and connecting rods are in good shape. Everything turns freely. I've got new pistons and jugs ordered. Heads are being redone by Mayo. Talked to them on Friday and they are making good progress. They should be ready in a week. Hopefully, the rest of the parts will be here soon and I can start assembly. While I'm in there, I'm going to install a new flywheel, clutch, and oil cooler.
Hey Scott... I'm in Dallas and have a freshly rebuilt 1.7 with Djet and no miles on it - would you be interested in buying, or renting it 'til your 2L is done - or maybe just borrowing it (now til after okteenerfest or so)? that's a serious offer, so just LMK.
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll keep that in the back of my mind. So far, things seem to be progressing well, but if that changes, I might take you up on that 1.7.
What are you doing for a camshaft? I hope you are not reusing the one that was in there. Get a new one and some lifters too.
Posted by: Betty Aug 16 2019, 10:06 PM
Hey Scott... I'm in Dallas and have a freshly rebuilt 1.7 with Djet and no miles on it - would you be interested in buying, or renting it 'til your 2L is done - or maybe just borrowing it (now til after okteenerfest or so)? that's a serious offer, so just LMK.
Now THIS is why I
914 people so much!
Posted by: Betty Aug 16 2019, 10:20 PM
So... hotel on Sunday night coming home from Okteenerfest; I was thinking about this possibly:
Quality Inn – 1009 East Service Rd., West Memphis, AR, 72301, (870) 702-9000. About $63 per night. No trailer parking.
Comfort Suites (right next to the Quality Inn) – 850 Stephen Boulevard, West Memphis, AR 72301, (866) 238-4218. About $85 per night. Has trailer parking.
The two hotels are literally next to each other. Clay and I would stay at the Comfort Suites because of Clay's truck and trailer. This is on the west side of Memphis which means we don't have to deal with Memphis rush hour when we leave Monday morning. It also makes Sunday about 8 hours of driving and Monday about 7 hours of driving.
Anybody else have any better ideas for the Sunday night hotel?
Posted by: wvspin2 Aug 20 2019, 06:05 PM
Considering Comfort Suites in West Memphis, 850 Stephen Blvd. I called the number you gave and had someone on the phone from a web site that seemed to be running a scam. 
Was I phished? I was told that they had a room at the 89 dollar rate but after taxes and fees the room would cost 142.99? What? Than I asked if they had a room at a lower rate they told me no and now it was going to cost me $157 with tax and fees? Well what happened to the room we already talked about and she told me someone else must have booked it? Than as we were setting up the confirmation we got to my credit card and was told they would be charging my card today to reserve the room? What tf? Than I asked who I was was talking too and what company they worked for and they didn't answer me and hung up 
Since I was staying at a Comfort Suites in Liberal KS yesterday before I left this morning, I asked them for the phone number of the hotel in West Memphis on Stephen Blvd. They gave me the direct number 870-733-9900 if you don't want to listen to the menu press 1. With my Choice privilege card and discounts my total with taxes $108. I was talking with Jimmy on the desk of Comfort Suites and my card was not charged today but only used to hold the room. If I need to cancel they want 2 days notice. 
Posted by: Betty Aug 20 2019, 09:45 PM
My sincerest apologies Warren! We hadn't made a reservation yet ourselves as we were waiting to get feedback from you and Scott. We used the phone number you gave in your post and now have a reservation for the night of Sunday 09/15 that is cancellable.
Again, my apologies for not calling that number before I posted it. 
Posted by: 914four Aug 24 2019, 09:49 AM
You guys want to meet for lunch at 11 a.m. (EDT) in Knoxville? Keep in mind this is 10 a.m. CDT...
Posted by: Betty Aug 24 2019, 03:52 PM
You guys want to meet for lunch at 11 a.m. (EDT) in Knoxville? Keep in mind this is 10 a.m. CDT...
Meeting up with you and Donna in Knoxville for lunch
would be awesome! By my calculations (taking into account the time change this time!), we'd have to leave the hotel at 7:00 a.m. to get to Knoxville around 11:30 a.m. (Eastern time zone) if that works for you instead of 11:00 a.m.? It would put us into Banner Elk around 3:00 p.m.-ish? If the others running with us are game; I know we sure the heck are! Maybe we can wait to see if Scott (and Katie) and Warren (and Karen) chime in?Dude... I still feel horrible for screwing that up!
In fact, I said at the time we owed you and Donna a bottle of your favorite wine for forgetting about the time change and we never did pay up - so I'll make you a deal! If you'll give me the names of a few of yall's most favorite wines (in case one of them isn't available here)... I'll send you the TWENTY ONE pictures we have of your car, and Clay and Richard Fisher putting the new door on your car!!! We stumbled across them when we were looking for some other pictures and I saved all of them; just waiting for the perfect opportunity. So... do we have a deal?!?!?!
Posted by: ClayPerrine Aug 24 2019, 07:40 PM
You guys want to meet for lunch at 11 a.m. (EDT) in Knoxville? Keep in mind this is 10 a.m. CDT...
Meeting up with you and Donna in Knoxville for lunch
would be awesome! By my calculations (taking into account the time change this time!), we'd have to leave the hotel at 7:00 a.m. to get to Knoxville around 11:30 a.m. (Eastern time zone) if that works for you instead of 11:00 a.m.? It would put us into Banner Elk around 3:00 p.m.-ish? If the others running with us are game; I know we sure the heck are! Maybe we can wait to see if Scott (and Katie) and Warren (and Karen) chime in?Dude... I still feel horrible for screwing that up!
In fact, I said at the time we owed you and Donna a bottle of your favorite wine for forgetting about the time change and we never did pay up - so I'll make you a deal! If you'll give me the names of a few of yall's most favorite wines (in case one of them isn't available here)... I'll send you the TWENTY ONE pictures we have of your car, and Clay and Richard Fisher putting the new door on your car!!! We stumbled across them when we were looking for some other pictures and I saved all of them; just waiting for the perfect opportunity. So... do we have a deal?!?!?!Kelvin,
Take the deal. PLEASE take the deal. She is still obsessing over it.
Help Me!
Clay
Posted by: 914four Aug 24 2019, 08:56 PM
You guys want to meet for lunch at 11 a.m. (EDT) in Knoxville? Keep in mind this is 10 a.m. CDT...
Meeting up with you and Donna in Knoxville for lunch
would be awesome! By my calculations (taking into account the time change this time!), we'd have to leave the hotel at 7:00 a.m. to get to Knoxville around 11:30 a.m. (Eastern time zone) if that works for you instead of 11:00 a.m.? It would put us into Banner Elk around 3:00 p.m.-ish? If the others running with us are game; I know we sure the heck are! Maybe we can wait to see if Scott (and Katie) and Warren (and Karen) chime in?Dude... I still feel horrible for screwing that up!
In fact, I said at the time we owed you and Donna a bottle of your favorite wine for forgetting about the time change and we never did pay up - so I'll make you a deal! If you'll give me the names of a few of yall's most favorite wines (in case one of them isn't available here)... I'll send you the TWENTY ONE pictures we have of your car, and Clay and Richard Fisher putting the new door on your car!!! We stumbled across them when we were looking for some other pictures and I saved all of them; just waiting for the perfect opportunity. So... do we have a deal?!?!?!Kelvin,
Take the deal. PLEASE take the deal. She is still obsessing over it.
Help Me!
Clay
All sounds good to me. We can talk about the wine in Banner Elk
Posted by: Betty Aug 24 2019, 09:49 PM
All sounds good to me. We can talk about the wine in Banner Elk
If we wait until Okteenerfest to talk about wine..... then we won't be able to buy it and bring it. Fess up - or else I'm buying bottles of 'Tickled Pink', 'Mad Dog 20/20' and 'Zima' and will sit there expecting you and Donna to drink it up.
Posted by: 914four Aug 25 2019, 08:25 AM
All sounds good to me. We can talk about the wine in Banner Elk
If we wait until Okteenerfest to talk about wine..... then we won't be able to buy it and bring it. Fess up - or else I'm buying bottles of 'Tickled Pink', 'Mad Dog 20/20' and 'Zima' and will sit there expecting you and Donna to drink it up.
The door (and installation) was worth much more than a bottle of wine. Maybe we can share one of our bottles of Chateau Ste Michelle Merlot with you in Banner Elk.
Posted by: Betty Aug 25 2019, 08:01 PM
The door (and installation) was worth much more than a bottle of wine. Maybe we can share one of our bottles of Chateau Ste Michelle Merlot with you in Banner Elk.
It was the threat of Zima... right?
Phewh...... thought I was going to have to actually try to find some 'Tickled Pink' to buy somewhere.
I truly appreciate the offer of sharing the wine, but in spite of my Dad's best efforts trying to teach me to appreciate wine, I'm still just a beer or mixed drink kind of girl.
Posted by: scottthephotog Aug 27 2019, 01:05 PM
Lunch in Knoxville sounds great.
Just booked hotels for the way there and the way back. Staying in an AirB&B in Banner Elk. Best Western is full and airB&B is half the price of a hotel.
Engine updates:
Mayo is supposed to have my heads back to me today or tomorrow. New flywheel and clutch are installed. Then reassemble the engine, put it back in the car, and then break it in. If everything goes smoothly, I should have it up and running by Monday.
Posted by: Betty Aug 27 2019, 08:59 PM
Lunch in Knoxville sounds great.
Just booked hotels for the way there and the way back. Staying in an AirB&B in Banner Elk. Best Western is full and airB&B is half the price of a hotel.
Engine updates:
Mayo is supposed to have my heads back to me today or tomorrow. New flywheel and clutch are installed. Then reassemble the engine, put it back in the car, and then break it in. If everything goes smoothly, I should have it up and running by Monday.
If you need ANYthing, holler!
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 4 2019, 09:37 PM
Its always something. My new Bursch muffler is cracked in the middle and blown out on the top. Strange. Have no response from the company about their warrantee on the product. They won't return my call. The muffler has not been in the car very long. . Have to find a workaround. Trying to tie up a few loose ends. Still have the old muffler if nothing else works than I will put that on. Of course it doesn't sound anything like the Bursch. ![yellowsleep[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 5 2019, 06:23 AM
Its always something. My new Bursch muffler is cracked in the middle and blown out on the top. Strange. Have no response from the company about their warrantee on the product. They won't return my call. The muffler has not been in the car very long.
. Have to find a workaround. Trying to tie up a few loose ends. Still have the old muffler if nothing else works than I will put that on. Of course it doesn't sound anything like the Bursch. Are you running 1.8 or 2.0 heat exchangers? If you are running 1.8, I have a spare muffler.
Clay
Posted by: scottthephotog Sep 5 2019, 03:26 PM
Its always something. My new Bursch muffler is cracked in the middle and blown out on the top. Strange. Have no response from the company about their warrantee on the product. They won't return my call. The muffler has not been in the car very long.
. Have to find a workaround. Trying to tie up a few loose ends. Still have the old muffler if nothing else works than I will put that on. Of course it doesn't sound anything like the Bursch. I've got the stock 1.7L muffler that you could borrow if you need to.
Updates on my car. The engine is in! I had to do some creative thinking to get the engine and transmission back in, which took some extra time. The car wouldn't drop low enough to line up the bolts and thread the nuts on. I stole the scissor jacks out of the other cars and used them to raise the dolly holding the engine and transmission. Lining up the new transmission mounts took some time as well.
Replaced the transmission end cap gaskets and changed out the fluid a couple of days ago. I haven't seen leaks yet, which is a good sign.
I'll be hooking the fuel injection up tomorrow, and hopefully, it will start!
Also, if you need to pull wires from the engine bay into the passenger compartment through the stupid tunnel, I found taping a stick to the end of the wire and shoving it through works great. Otherwise, the wire turns and bunches up.
Last thing for now. When I removed the old engine, the engine support bar fell off as soon as the 17mm bolts came loose. (Engine stayed on the dolly thankfully). Here's what the mounts looked like. I have no idea what caused this, and thankfully the engine didn't fall out or something.
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 5 2019, 07:47 PM
My sincerest apologies Warren! We hadn't made a reservation yet ourselves as we were waiting to get feedback from you and Scott. We used the phone number you gave in your post and now have a reservation for the night of Sunday 09/15 that is cancellable.
Again, my apologies for not calling that number before I posted it.
Betty, not to worry, I am experienced enough to know when I was being scammed. We always need to be alert. Sounds like your experience was a much better after you had a good number to call.
As always Betty I appreciate your research and locating the stop over accommodations.
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 5 2019, 07:57 PM
Scott, wow, those mounts were just keeping the engine in place. Just have to believe the trans mounts were keeping everything functioning. Keep focused and move forward. Know you can make the trip. Can't wait to see the smile on your face when you have her running and driving great.
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 5 2019, 08:29 PM
Thanks you guys Bursch Exhaust: After multiple contacts I finally got primary decision maker at Bursch Exhaust. They gave me their email so I could send pictures of the defective muffler. They replied shortly after reviewing and agreed to send a call tag from FedEx for my system warrantee my defective system . Since I am taking my 914 to Okteenerfest I really wanted to have the Bursch exhaust on my anemic 1.7, 1972. I decided to pick up new muffler gaskets at Zims needing to install the original muffler I had stowed away in my attic. When I showed Arron the exhaust system, he suggested that if I could find a muffler of similar size he could graft it in place of the flimsy original. Summit Racing is located near 360 and 20. So, following his advice, Summit had a thrush turbo muffler. So now I wait for Arron's expertise to recover my Bursch for reinstallation. ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 6 2019, 09:58 AM
As a meet up point, I suggest the McDonalds on the NorthEast corner of Glade Road and Hwy 121. It is in the same parking lot as Hobby Lobby, so there is room for the trailers. It should also make for easy highway entry.
How early does everyone want to leave? I would do sometime between 6 and 7 am, with the hopes of getting out of Dallas before the height of rush hour.
Clay
Posted by: Betty Sep 6 2019, 04:21 PM
Its always something. ......
Posted by: Betty Sep 6 2019, 07:23 PM
Thanks you guys
Bursch Exhaust: After multiple contacts I finally got primary decision maker at Bursch Exhaust. They gave me their email so I could send pictures of the defective muffler. They replied shortly after reviewing and agreed to send a call tag from FedEx for my system warrantee my defective system . Since I am taking my 914 to Okteenerfest I really wanted to have the Bursch exhaust on my anemic 1.7, 1972. I decided to pick up new muffler gaskets at Zims needing to install the original muffler I had stowed away in my attic. When I showed Arron the exhaust system, he suggested that if I could find a muffler of similar size he could graft it in place of the flimsy original. Summit Racing is located near 360 and 20. So, following his advice, Summit had a thrush turbo muffler. So now I wait for Arron's expertise to recover my Bursch for reinstallation. Aaron is the absolute best! Clay wouldn't have even a hope of a prayer of a chance of getting his car to Okteenerfest without him!!!
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 6 2019, 08:51 PM
Arron came through. The exhaust system is together and works and sounds better than ever. Now I just have a million other things to get done before Okteenerfest.
Posted by: scottthephotog Sep 7 2019, 10:16 PM
Well, hooked up everything, it wouldn't start, and I've got fuel leaking from the injectors. I installed new lines when I put them in and everything is tight, so I'm thinking the injectors might be shot.
Summit Racing has replacements made by Standard Motor Products. No idea if they are any good or not. $72 a piece. I might call Summit Racing in Arlington tomorrow and see if they have them in stock.
At this point while I'd love to drive it, I'm so fed up with it that I'm thinking of just driving the 944. I don't even know if new injectors will solve my starting issue. I don't want to check spark at the plugs since there is still some fuel vapor in the garage.
Posted by: scottthephotog Sep 8 2019, 03:43 PM
Unlike their website said, summit racing does not have injectors in stock, and doesn't carry them in store.
Tried the 1.7L injectors, and 2 of them started leaking. Still can't get it to start. I'm not sure I have spark at the distributor either. Maybe I wired the coil incorrectly or the computer is malfunctioning/bad. The coul feels warm/hot, so I unplugged the wires for now.
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 10 2019, 06:49 AM
Scotts it's more like your at witts end Thank goodness you can take a breather and have options. 
Posted by: wvspin2 Sep 10 2019, 02:43 PM
Been working since dawn trying to hook up trailer to tow the 914. No go. tried a new wiring connector 6 point, 7 point no go. Got with some technicians in the area and RV people . So, as a result we won't be towing sad to say my 914 . Might be a computer issue with the TDI Touareg. We will be driving the Boxster.
Posted by: scottthephotog Sep 10 2019, 09:22 PM
Updates. Fixed the injector problem. Started and ran great, but the oil cooler leaked like mad. Replaced the oil cooler. Now it won't start, and if it does, it runs super terrible and stalls out in a couple seconds. No oil leak though. I can't for the life of me figure out why changing the oil cooler would make it not run. I've triple checked the vacuum lines, EFI lines, spark plug wires, distributor, coil, etc...
Guess we'll be seeing you in the 944 tomorrow...
Posted by: 914four Sep 11 2019, 07:37 PM
You guys want to meet up with Mike at Corner 16 at 11:30 a.m.? It looks to be on our way just off I40. The address is 1640 Bob Kirby Rd,Knoxville, TN 37931
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=336859&st=280
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