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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Anyone recognize this swaybar set up?

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 3 2019, 08:18 AM

Look familiar to anyone? Clearly aftermarket.

Thanks!

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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Aug 3 2019, 09:59 AM

Well not H&H which they crudely resemble I actually do not remember the old 914 sway bar makers other than weltmeister (totally different looking) Pacesetter (totally different looking and different mounting) and H&H (a very nice bar)

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Aug 3 2019, 07:18 AM) *

Look familiar to anyone? Clearly aftermarket.

Thanks!

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 3 2019, 10:01 AM

Good morning, thanks for the response.

Seems like they should work OK, just curious if anyone knows what they are.

Hope the construction work is going OK down there.

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Aug 3 2019, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Aug 3 2019, 07:18 AM) *

Look familiar to anyone? Clearly aftermarket.

Thanks!

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Homemade?

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 3 2019, 12:28 PM

unkl Al,,,,made some for meaney racing in the 80s....first one ive seen..


Posted by: 914forme Aug 3 2019, 04:06 PM

Looks like an H&H copy or could be some of their later stuff. Traditional H&H looks very similar but just better details.

I should have some pictures of the H&H setup in the 914-6 thread below.

Pulled this from the thread for reference, you can see the difference. I trued up the holes, milling machine curly queues took a bit of the paint off each hole. I'll clean that up latter.

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Posted by: Tdskip Aug 3 2019, 04:11 PM

Think it will work ok?

Let me see if I can get a picture of this on next to what I think is a H&H one.

Thanks, and hope everyone is having a good weekend.


Posted by: 914Sixer Aug 3 2019, 04:34 PM

Going to have to go with home built. Don't see any reason it will not work. Critical question is the diameter of the bar.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 3 2019, 04:50 PM

And do stock bar bushing work with it?

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 3 2019, 05:09 PM

Looks like 19mm. Bushings with it are good where it passes through the body, replacing them if/when needed would take detective work I suppose.

Posted by: 914forme Aug 4 2019, 06:00 PM

If you have a lathe or access to one you can make the bushing out of what ever material you wish. Just remember check your material some off gas when machined and it is not a very pleasant way to die, or get sick.

You could even key a bushing out of Oilite or Oilite plus bronze, for a decent solid bearing.

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 4 2019, 06:20 PM

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If you have a lathe or access to one you can make the bushing out of what ever material you wish. Just remember check your material some off gas when machined and it is not a very pleasant way to die, or get sick.

You could even key a bushing out of Oilite or Oilite plus bronze, for a decent solid bearing.


Yikes, thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 4 2019, 06:48 PM

check the rod ends for slop. the chatter will drive even more crazy...than me...haha

Posted by: gandalf_025 Aug 5 2019, 07:40 AM

Found this on another site and cleaned it up a little.

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Posted by: Tdskip Aug 5 2019, 09:25 AM

Thanks - that sure looks familiar.

Posted by: maf914 Aug 6 2019, 07:36 AM

QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Aug 5 2019, 05:40 AM) *

Found this on another site and cleaned it up a little.



I bought H&H sway bars and have the original copy of the H&H installation instructions including that diagram. This was old school printing. Blue/purple mimeograph on yellow paper. Hard to make decent photo copies from it.

This was from 1979. The front H&H 19mm sway bar kit was $85 and the rear 16mm kit was $62. Shipping was $6. laugh.gif

Posted by: 914_teener Aug 6 2019, 11:21 AM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Aug 3 2019, 03:11 PM) *

Think it will work ok?

Let me see if I can get a picture of this on next to what I think is a H&H one.

Thanks, and hope everyone is having a good weekend.



Depending on the tire and front end setup that may work well on a -6.

For a -4 I'd think that size bar is too much. Just my opinion about "will it work".

The stock bar diameter is just fine on a -4 from my experience.

Posted by: Tdskip Aug 6 2019, 11:48 AM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Aug 6 2019, 12:21 PM) *

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Aug 3 2019, 03:11 PM) *

Think it will work ok?

Let me see if I can get a picture of this on next to what I think is a H&H one.

Thanks, and hope everyone is having a good weekend.



Depending on the tire and front end setup that may work well on a -6.

For a -4 I'd think that size bar is too much. Just my opinion about "will it work".

The stock bar diameter is just fine on a -4 from my experience.


Hi Rob, thanks for the response. I've seen cars ruined by making them overly stiff in how they handle, thanks for raising the consideration.

Posted by: maf914 Aug 6 2019, 03:22 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Aug 6 2019, 09:21 AM) *

For a -4 I'd think that size bar is too much. Just my opinion about "will it work".


For aftermarket sway bars, 19mm was a fairly common size. Weltmeister and H&H both offered 19mm bars and also had 22mm bars as well. Tarett currently offers 19mm and 22mm bars. These bars all have adjustable sway bar arms (Lever arms) which allow the roll stiffness to be altered.

My car initially had no sway bars. I added H&H sway bars, 19mm front and 16mm rear, and in my opinion, they greatly improved the handling.


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