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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:13 PM
Picked up the new nine-fort-green. Drove to Tucson early this morning, picked it up and drove it back to Phoenix. It got a bit warm in the cockpit with the top off around 11:00 am Phoenix time.
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:15 PM
Home sweet home.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:19 PM
It is a good 40 footer. The person who painted it was blind and painted it with a garden hose from 40 feet.
I took a buffing wheel to is to remove the worst of the oxidation. It looks better in some places and revealed more problems in others.
Something spilled on the rear deck lid at some point and stained/etched into the paint.
Oh well, it is a daily driver for now.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:23 PM
From what I can see, there is nothing but metal under that horrible cracked paint.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:25 PM
The interior is not great but not terrible. A new set of carpet and some minor fixes and it will look decent.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:26 PM
Dual carbs. It runs ok but needs some tuning to get the most out of it.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 04:28 PM
I am in the house posting on 914world because I don't want to be back out in the hot garage finishing with the buffing wheel. 
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Posted by: Craigers17 Aug 17 2019, 06:29 PM
Nice car....I saw this on Craigslist a few weeks back.....based on what I'm assuming you paid for it, it was very well bought. Congrats!
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 09:15 PM
Nice car....I saw this on Craigslist a few weeks back.....based on what I'm assuming you paid for it, it was very well bought. Congrats!
My son is out in the garage putting a coat of wax on it and it looks so much better than when we brought it home this morning.
It runs pretty well. There is some hesitation in the midrange around 3000 to 3500 rpm but it had no trouble running 75 to 85 on the trip home.
With the work we did today cleaning it up, add a couple more days fixing piddly little things, and a less than $500 in parts and I could most likely double my money on it. (And I would have gotten away with it too if weren't for that meddling kid...
)That meddling kid out in the garage would not be happy if I sold his new high school daily driver.
I'll take some good shots tomorrow when the light is better.
Posted by: Tdskip Aug 17 2019, 09:18 PM
Score!
Congratulations
Posted by: Spoke Aug 17 2019, 09:25 PM
Nice car. Good luck with it.
My 914 had a crap paint job on it. I proceeded to wet sand the entire car by hand starting with 1000 grit going to 1600, then rubbing compound, polishing compound, glaze, then wax. Looks good enough to drive really fast.
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 17 2019, 10:43 PM
It has rock chips EVERYWHERE. Seriously, it looks like the car has a case of the measles. Not worth the effort to sand and buff. Just using the buffing wheel made it look so much better. We will stick with that and a good wax for now. The longer term plan is a complete repaint. That will involve removing a LOT of overspray.
Posted by: second wind Aug 17 2019, 11:49 PM
I love this car and your energy will bring it back to glory days. Sounds like you did a good deal.....all the best,
gg
Posted by: second wind Aug 17 2019, 11:53 PM
Just the way the headlights fit shows you found a gem. I wish my headlights looked that good. Whatever you paid you stole it.
gg
Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 18 2019, 12:01 AM
Congrats and yes you got a good buy since you able to drive it home. Hoping the body is solid!
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 18 2019, 09:55 AM
I have checked it pretty good and I can find no evidence of ANY crash damage. Every corner and all the sides look to be original. There are some minor door dings but no major waves in any part of the body. It has two rust spots along the inside edge of the drivers long but they are small. It has a little rust in the passenger side rear trunk that appears to have been coated in por15. The worst spot is the top of the passenger fender. It will need a 3X6 section replaced.
I am really happy with it.
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 31 2019, 12:24 PM
Went to the emissions testing facility to hang out with Gandalf and the Black Knight.
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Posted by: AZBanks Aug 31 2019, 01:00 PM
Engine code W0122833
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Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 31 2019, 01:04 PM
Engine code W0122833
Is the car between 70 and 72 year? W engine I believed are from 70 to 72.
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 31 2019, 01:06 PM
When I was checking the car, I was really happy with the lack of rust and good condition mechanically. the one area I neglected to check as well as I should have was the wiring. Some PO(S) did some seriously substandard wiring work.
Nothing that can't be fixed but it is still annoying.
The silver cable with the red ends in this picture is just a stainless steel cable. It is being used as the ground strap.
The white and yellow wires are a home built wire setup for the license plate lights.
The green wire is to the starter.
Posted by: AZBanks Aug 31 2019, 01:06 PM
When I was checking the car, I was really happy with the lack of rust and good condition mechanically. the one area I neglected to check as well as I should have was the wiring. Some PO(S) did some seriously substandard wiring work.
Nothing that can't be fixed but it is still annoying.
The silver cable with the red ends in this picture is just a stainless steel cable. It is being used as the ground strap.
The white and yellow wires are a home built wire setup for the license plate lights.
The green wire goes to the starter.
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Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 31 2019, 01:56 PM
needs a transmission to trunk floor ground strap (factory), and ground will be good,,, 1 down
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 4 2019, 10:28 PM
Working on a tune-up. Trying to get it to pass emissions.
Points, condensor, plugs, cap & rotor.
Posted by: ndfrigi Sep 4 2019, 10:36 PM
Working on a tune-up. Trying to get it to pass emissions.
Points, condensor, plugs, cap & rotor.
Still require emission in your state? Is it just California that exempt 75 and older?
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 4 2019, 11:06 PM
Emissions result from Saturday
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Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 4 2019, 11:08 PM
So, Arizona is even KOOKIER than California when it comes to old cars?
I didn't think it possible.
Posted by: michael7810 Sep 5 2019, 06:38 AM
Emissions result from Saturday
You probably know this, but get classic car insurance and registration and you don’t need emissions test.
Posted by: VaccaRabite Sep 5 2019, 07:51 AM
Emissions result from Saturday
You probably know this, but get classic car insurance and registration and you don’t need emissions test.
If his son wants to daily this car in HS (which is a terrible idea BTW) collector car insurance is a non-starter.
Zach
Posted by: JOEPROPER Sep 5 2019, 08:04 AM
Emissions result from Saturday
Running rich... CO is rich/lean indicator and high HC indicates misfire / unburned fuel.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 5 2019, 08:10 AM
Congrats Eric-
Nice score...enjoy!!!
I sent you a little something...should arrive today.
Oscar
Posted by: Coondog Sep 5 2019, 08:44 AM
What happened to your other 914 project.
Posted by: michael7810 Sep 5 2019, 09:16 AM
Emissions result from Saturday
You probably know this, but get classic car insurance and registration and you don’t need emissions test.
If his son wants to daily this car in HS (which is a terrible idea BTW) collector car insurance is a non-starter.
Zach
Oh. In that case Jack at Stuttgart SW has a 914 exhaust with a catalytic converter that he bolts on to pass emissions if you don’t get it to pass.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 5 2019, 11:15 AM
I daily drove a 914 my senior year in high school and it was AWESOME!
OTOH, I've never been known to back away from a really good terrible idea. 
Yes, every once in a while Arizona has to do something to make California laws look good.
Michael,
I can not get collector car insurance because of the intended use of the car and the fact that my son does not have another vehicle to use as his "daily driver".
I think is is messed up that even with a 48 year old Porsche, no collector insurance means no collector plate and no collector plate means I have to get it to pass emissions.
I am trying to reach my state reps and senator to see if the law can be changed to remove the collector insurance requirement to get a collector plate.
I am definitely having a misfire and unburned fuel. I am getting a backfire up through the carbs.
I replaced the points, condensor, cap and rotor, and the plugs.
I am going to adjust the valves and then check the timing.
If those things don't fix the problems, I'll start looking into the carbs.
Doug,
My son and I are still working on the original project but I travel for work A LOT so progress is really SLOW!!!!
We picked this up so he would have something to drive while we work on the project.
Any advice or ideas to get this to pass emissions would be greatly appreciated.
On a REALLY good note, I had to switch insurance companies to do it but adding the 914 with full coverage and adding my 17 year old son as a driver bumped my monthly insurance premium by less than $100.
I was expecting my insurance to double just for adding my son as an insured driver so I am pretty stoked.
Oscar,
Thanks!!!, I am looking forward to it's arrival.
Posted by: Coondog Sep 5 2019, 12:01 PM
Drop it off at anyone of these places, have the do a complete safety check while your at it and replace all the fuel lines..
Don Jackson Enterprises
Phoenix, AZ
Exotic Motorwerks
Scottsdale, AZ
Beck's European
Scottsdale, AZ
Stuttgart Southwest German
Tempe Az
All these shops have tons of 914 experience.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 5 2019, 02:48 PM
If I don't get it to pass emissions today, I am taking it to Don Jackson(DJ) tomorrow.
DJ and Becks have done alignments on my 944 turbo and 944 S2 cab.
Oscar,
I got the stuff. Thank you very much! Love the hat and the key fob.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 5 2019, 07:29 PM
Improved in some areas, got worse in others.
I am still getting back fires especially during deceleration.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:23 AM
I would like to petition the Arizona Department of Game and Fish to start a bounty program on previous owners who do stupid $h!+.
Square head screw???
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:27 AM
I don't know if it was the same PO but someone tried to patch the front valance.
They used body filler to put in a second layer of sheet metal behind the rusty damaged section of the valance.
I am debating what to do with this valance. Is it worth the effort to cut out the bad parts and weld in a properly formed replacement section?
Should I fix it or replace it with something more aggressive.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:28 AM
Worst side of the valance.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:28 AM
Close up after I removed most of the body filler and badly rusted metal.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:30 AM
Back side of valance damage.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:31 AM
Other end of valance.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 11:32 AM
Back side of other end.
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Posted by: Coondog Sep 6 2019, 12:35 PM
Those are easy to replace and cheap. Save your anger for the big items that are going to piss you off.... 
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 07:43 PM
Ordered a flow meter so I can adjust the carbs.
Working on a few cosmetic items while I wait.
The car came with a really old mismatched set of GM lap belts so they got replaced.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 6 2019, 07:48 PM
The bumper tops spent the last 48 years suffering through the Arizona sun. They have/had some major splits and they were extremely dry rotted.
This is not a show car, it is a high school daily driver so...
5 cans of plastidip later and they are almost ready to go back on the car. Curing overnight and then 2 more cans should do the trick.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 20 2019, 05:23 PM
I've been traveling a lot so not much has been done. It still doesn't pass emissions.
I've joked with my son that I am going to remove one of the spark plug wires to make it slower.
So today I'm starting to do some work on it, (new starter Bosch SR68X and some other minor things) and just messing around, I decided to pull one of the plug wires off at the distributor. It got me with a few arcs but the worst thing is, nothing changed. The car ran exactly the same with the one plug wire pulled. Then I put it back and tried another. Still no change. pulling the plug wires for both cylinders on the drivers side of the car did not change how the engine was running at all. I guess that is a clue to start figuring out why it is running like that and a good indication why it won't pass emissions.
Posted by: michael7810 Sep 20 2019, 05:32 PM
If you have Weber’s there is a good chance an idle jet is plugged. LMK if you need help. I have a couple books plus a great how-to guide for tuning carbs.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 21 2019, 03:57 PM
We still have some tuning to do but we got it cleaned up so he can have it in his senior pictures. These are just some camera shots in the driveway. The real senior pictures will look much better.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 21 2019, 03:59 PM
A few more.
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 21 2019, 04:00 PM
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Posted by: AZBanks Sep 21 2019, 04:08 PM
We were working on getting it cleaned up last night and two of the bolts pulled out of the left side of the rear bumper top so that went in the trash.
We got a bunch of parts from the PO when we bought the car including two sets of tail lights(in addition to the set on the car). The set with the best lenses must have been recovered from the engine room of the Titanic because they were FULL of rust. The lens bolts were so rusted that I could not get the lenses off the housings without cracking them in half. Luckily, the second spare set were not rusted and the lenses looked a lot better than the ones on the car so it all worked out.
When I bought the car the brake lights and turn signals worked but when I got it home, they didn't. (frustrating!!!)
After swaping out the tail lights last night, they all work again (still frustrating because now I can't trust them).
Michael, I'll be in touch about the Webers. I've run out of free time for this weekend but I need to get them squared away soon. Thanks.
Posted by: johnhora Sep 21 2019, 04:38 PM
I tell you what...ya'll have done a great job of getting this ole 914 cleaned up...
It looks GREAT!!!
Get with Michael on the carbs.... a good rebuild on the Webers will help immensely with those emission test numbers.
And for those worried about this young fellow driving it to school...don't....there's no back seat and you can only take one other person with you...fewer teens in the car means less trouble.
Good luck on this project!
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 24 2019, 10:55 AM
Senior pic
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Posted by: bbrock Sep 24 2019, 11:06 AM
Coolest senior pic possible. Got the 914 and the dog! 
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 24 2019, 11:22 AM
Nice looking in that shade of green & great Family project...dig the Automotion era shoulder harness bar 
Posted by: Jamie Sep 24 2019, 12:31 PM
We still have some tuning to do but we got it cleaned up so he can have it in his senior pictures. These are just some camera shots in the driveway. The real senior pictures will look much better.
How tall is this boy? The senior photo is wonderful and will be a great memory in years to come.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 25 2019, 08:27 AM
Nathan is 5' 11"
Our photographer did a great job photoshopping the car in that pic.
Here are a couple unedited pictures.
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Posted by: Jamie Sep 25 2019, 10:27 AM
Nathan is 5' 11"
Our photographer did a great job photoshopping the car in that pic.
Here are a couple unedited pictures.
Since I'm a retired photographer I noticed he had Photoshopped the paint dings for you. Good job!
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 27 2019, 12:46 PM
I wish I could get a repaint for the price of the senior pics!!
Posted by: raynekat Sep 27 2019, 04:54 PM
That is one great color and good looking car.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 19 2019, 03:35 PM
I tell you what...ya'll have done a great job of getting this ole 914 cleaned up...
It looks GREAT!!!
Get with Michael on the carbs.... a good rebuild on the Webers will help immensely with those emission test numbers.
And for those worried about this young fellow driving it to school...don't....there's no back seat and you can only take one other person with you...fewer teens in the car means less trouble.
Good luck on this project!
My thoughts on him using it to get to school were that the good brakes and good handling would help him avoid accidents, relatively low power from a carbed 1.7 will keep him from going too fast, too soon, and having just one other seat means he can't fill it up with a bunch of knuckleheads who want him to do something stupid.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 19 2019, 03:39 PM
I have been traveling a lot for work so this has been on the back burner. I got some time to do some checking on it today. I bought some starter fluid to check for vacuum leaks and did not find any.
I tried spraying the starter fluid into the carb opening for each cylinder and found that spraying it into cylinder #2 doesn't do anything but spraying it into any other cylinder causes the car to bog down.
So now I know that cylinder #2 is a problem. I don't know if it is the only problem but it gives me a place to start.
Posted by: AZBanks Nov 8 2019, 02:09 PM
After adjusting and/or replacing everything I could think of, I was not getting any differences in behavior so I dropped at Don Jackson Enterprises in Phoenix for a thorough checkup. His initial idea from driving it from the front of his shop to the back is that there may be something mechanically wrong in the engine (valves, seats, compression, rings, something along those lines).
If it is really bad, I have a spare 1.8 sitting in my garage. I'll swap that in and rebuild the 1.7. If I do a rebuild of the 1.7, should I go big? New cylinders, pistons, and heads??
Posted by: AZBanks Dec 6 2019, 09:57 AM
When I was working on it trying to get it to pass emissions, I found that one of the spark plugs had some kind of insert bonded to it to the point where I could not remove it without destroying the threads of the insert. I looked all over and finally found a replacement insert at NAPA. I put it in, put in the spark plug and thought all was well.
What I did not find but DJ at Don Jackson Enterprises did was that the old insert had broken and part of it had moved down into the spark plug hole to the point that it stuck out of the hole enough to cover the end of the spark plug.
It was covering the end of the spark plug enough that the spark was not able to ignite the fuel which was why it was failing emissions.
DJ got it to pass emissions so I am going today to get it registered and a plate. I am thinking about getting "NARP" as the plate. My son likes it but my wife thinks it's dumb.
What do you guys think? Should I go with NARP or something else.
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 6 2019, 10:27 AM
94GRN
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 6 2019, 10:35 AM
My Son wants the RT66 style plate which only has room for 6 characters.
GRNMNE is available but the car is only a 1.7 with webbers. I have a hard time thinking of it as being mean and GRNPOWDERPUFF won't fit. 
Posted by: AZBanks Dec 8 2019, 11:28 PM
I went with NARP.
I got the new carpet kit installed and took my youngest son to the Scottsdale AZ cars and coffee Sat morning.
Posted by: michael7810 Dec 9 2019, 09:04 AM
I went with NARP.
I got the new carpet kit installed and took my youngest son to the Scottsdale AZ cars and coffee Sat morning.
Did you go to 4till4 or North Scottsdale? There were 3 914s at 4till4 when I left at 730.
Posted by: AZBanks Dec 9 2019, 12:28 PM
I went with NARP.
I got the new carpet kit installed and took my youngest son to the Scottsdale AZ cars and coffee Sat morning.
Did you go to 4till4 or North Scottsdale? There were 3 914s at 4till4 when I left at 730.
North Scottsdale. I had not been in a long time. I didn't know it was now a membership thing where you have to pay to park in the main areas. There were no other 914's there.
If I am in town, I will try out 4till4 next month.
Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 12:10 PM
Carpet pics.
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 12:11 PM
The new carpet makes the the car feel a lot more "finished" to drive.
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 12:12 PM
last carpet pic
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 11:45 PM
I fixed alignment on passenger side of engine lid. It had been making contact with the front edge of the rear trunk lid.
The engine cover and especially the rear trunk lid are/were way out of alignment.
The rear trunk hinge mounts are seriously messed up. The passenger side trunk mount bracket is most of the way broken off. the drivers side has been replaced with a big chunk of aluminum plate.
The trunk lid hinges on both sides needs to be fixed correctly before I try to fix the engine lid alignment on the drivers side.
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 11:48 PM
drivers side alignment. Yes it is making contact.
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 11 2019, 11:49 PM
Drivers side trunk mount hinge.
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Posted by: AZBanks Dec 26 2019, 09:20 PM
It's official, it's NARP!
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Posted by: AZBanks Jan 20 2020, 12:59 AM
We bought this car for my son to drive to school.
He drove it on his own for the first time at the 4till4 Cars and Coffee on Jan 4th. He's been driving it in the neighborhood and running a few short errands on his own over the last couple weeks and he's gone out on a few freeway drives with me in the passenger seat.
A few days ago, he killed it in the middle of a busy intersection with my wife in the passenger seat. That went over well. 
He will be driving it to school for the first time Tuesday morning.
Mission accomplished!!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 20 2020, 03:33 AM
ya the Mom moment...all good been there done that...congrats.I had a turbo charged Corvair..the only day it got respect is the day the muffler ell off and the hood was open in auto shop...they had no clue... Safe Drives
Posted by: AZBanks Feb 10 2020, 09:11 PM
Dual Coil springs??
Has anyone seen this setup before?
Posted by: AZBanks Feb 10 2020, 09:12 PM
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Posted by: AZBanks Feb 10 2020, 09:30 PM
I am trying to replace all the old, worn out bushings from the shifter to the transmission but I can't find them on the 914rubber website. Does anyone have links for the bushings I need?
It is a 71 that has had a side shifter installed.
Posted by: AZBanks Feb 13 2020, 11:02 PM
Dropped the front.
Posted by: AZBanks Mar 20 2020, 06:32 PM
I got what turned out to be a dead end lead on another 914 for sale.
I did get a nice picture of my car out of the deal so it wasn't a total loss.
My son is out of school for at least two weeks and I have no work for two weeks so I guess we will get to some work on the car.
Pull the 1.7 with the messed up spark plug hole and install the 1.8 I got on the cheap from Patrick Motorsports.
SS fuel lines from Tangerine
New shifter bushings from 914Rubber and Tangerine
Clean up a bunch of wiring and misc items
Posted by: AZBanks Apr 11 2020, 12:51 AM
Removed the engine lid and slotted the engine lid hinges. diconnected the throttle cable and the wires on the top of the engine.
Posted by: AZBanks May 12 2020, 07:27 PM
Found this for the fuel pump. How common a modification is this?
Posted by: AZBanks May 20 2020, 12:23 PM
UUGGHHH,
Cleaning up the replacement engine. 5 HOURS of scrubbing and scraping with degreaser.
Front main seal replacement tonight and start the install.
I plan to have it up and running by Friday evening.
Posted by: AZBanks May 21 2020, 08:09 AM
I got my HF media blast cabinet set up and spent some time cleaning up the fan housing. I am trying to decide if I should paint it or leave it raw aluminum.
What are the pros and cons of paint VS raw?
Posted by: sholman5 May 21 2020, 02:50 PM
I did a clean up on my motor last year. Blasted the shroud and painted it a matte aluminum. The raw aluminum raw is porous and will trap dirt. I would put a finish on it to seal it.
Posted by: AZBanks May 21 2020, 03:12 PM
I did a clean up on my motor last year. Blasted the shroud and painted it a matte aluminum. The raw aluminum raw is porous and will trap dirt. I would put a finish on it to seal it.
Good info, paint it is.
Everything is cleaned up, Now to put it all back together and back in the car.
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Posted by: AZBanks May 21 2020, 03:15 PM
Old Exhaust in the picture has been removed. I will be reusing the performance header system that was on the old 1.7 liter that just came out of the car. No heat exchangers but heat is the last thing we need in Arizona. 
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Posted by: sholman5 May 21 2020, 04:21 PM
I also used stainless steel allen head bolts instead of the original cheese head screws on the shroud. Easier to install and remove if needed.
Posted by: AZBanks May 21 2020, 04:46 PM
I also used stainless steel allen head bolts instead of the original cheese head screws on the shroud. Easier to install and remove if needed.
My fan shroud was put together with flat head screws. I've got a good friend who has an industrial and aerospace fastener company. I am going to head over there in about 30 minutes and see what cool connectors he can recommend. In another thread, Clay recommended some MB exhaust nuts. I'm going to check those out.
Posted by: AZBanks May 27 2020, 02:06 PM
When I was removing the old exhaust of the replacement engine, 5 of the studs came out. the stud snapped off just under the frozen bolt on one of the studs that did not com out. That broken stud came out with a generous application of heat. The other two studs would not come out!!!! I tried penetrating oil, I tried heat(LOTS of heat). None of it worked. I tried a fancy bolt extractor and that just snapped the stud right at the head. I tried drilling and using a screw in extractor and that did not work, It actually put a crack in the head. Finally I just drilled and tapped it for a new stud.
The replacement engine is in the car but I need to finish installing thew carbs, fuel lines, cables, etc.
One big issue I am having is getting the front shift rod and the firewall bushing to play nicely together. I can not get the rod to slide through the bushing. If I push hard enough, the rod pushed the bushing out of the firewall.
What is the correct diameter for the front shift rod where it passes through the firewall? I am wondering if the PO(S) put a sleeve on the rod. Or is there a trick I am missing to get the rod to slide through the bushing without bushing the bushing out of the firewall?
Posted by: AZBanks May 31 2020, 01:24 AM
Engine swap is done(ish)
The engine is in.
SS fuel lines are in.
I got everything buttoned up enough for my son to drive it to a year-end event for his HS senior class.
They didn't have prom and their senior trip is cancelled but one family put together a dance with a DJ and food, etc so they did get a chance to get together with their classmates before they all head off to the rest of their lives.
Posted by: AZBanks May 31 2020, 08:08 PM
Swepco on the garage floor.
I may have overfilled the trans. Would the excess trans oil leak out the axle and front seals?
It is either excess oil leaking out or I need to replace some seals.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 14 2020, 09:55 PM
Drove it across town to pick up some parts the the dealer.
They changed their hours and the parts department is not open on Saturdays any more.
Nothing like a cross town drive in 105 degree heat for no reason.
On the plus side, it ran like a champ with no oil leaks and just a few drops of trans oil leaking.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 20 2020, 06:43 PM
It has been fun but as of tomorrow morning, 9-4-green will be leaving my garage and heading off to it's new life in a new garage.
I'm not selling it, my oldest is taking it with him when he moves into his dorm for his first year of college.
It is bitter-sweet beyond description. My oldest son is going off to college. He took enough dual enrollment classes in high school to enter college as a sophomore with a 4.0 GPA. His schedule is a little heavy but he will get out with his masters in finance and a minor in theater in four years.
I can't put into words how proud I am of him. He has come so far.
He was three when he was diagnosed with autism. He was non-verbal, he had multiple sensory issues, he was completely non-social with anyone but his mom or I. Other kids might as well have been invisible, adults who tried to talk to him caused a blood curdling, "I'm being murdered with a knife", top of the lungs scream. If you think of a typical child with autism in your head, yeah, that was my son at three years old.
My wife spent his early years taking him to therapists, doctors, specialist, etc, etc. She typically spent over 40 hours a week taking him to people who could help him and it paid off. My wife and my son worked so hard and I am so proud of both of them.
My son is heading off on his next great adventure and I am so excited for him, even more than I am sad to see him go. I am happy he is not going far, his college is just a few miles down the road.
It is time for my son to go off on his own and he gets to do it in the coolest car on campus.
Posted by: tygaboy Sep 20 2020, 06:57 PM
I just read your last post to my wife. We both teared up a bit and she beat me to the "that is AWESOME!" statement. I can't imagine the challenges or the level of pride you must feel. Wow, just wow. Such an amazing accomplishment. Huge congrats to you, your wife and especially your son! Well done, young man!!!
Now, go drive it like you stole it!
Posted by: michael7810 Sep 20 2020, 08:49 PM
It has been fun but as of tomorrow morning, 9-4-green will be leaving my garage and heading off to it's new life in a new garage.
I'm not selling it, my oldest is taking it with him when he moves into his dorm for his first year of college.
It is bitter-sweet beyond description. My oldest son is going off to college. He took enough dual enrollment classes in high school to enter college as a sophomore with a 4.0 GPA. His schedule is a little heavy but he will get out with his masters in finance and a minor in theater in four years.
I can't put into words how proud I am of him. He has come so far.
He was three when he was diagnosed with autism. He was non-verbal, he had multiple sensory issues, he was completely non-social with anyone but his mom or I. Other kids might as well have been invisible, adults who tried to talk to him caused a blood curdling, "I'm being murdered with a knife", top of the lungs scream. If you think of a typical child with autism in your head, yeah, that was my son at three years old.
My wife spent his early years taking him to therapists, doctors, specialist, etc, etc. She typically spent over 40 hours a week taking him to people who could help him and it paid off. My wife and my son worked so hard and I am so proud of both of them.
My son is heading off on his next great adventure and I am so excited for him, even more than I am sad to see him go. I am happy he is not going far, his college is just a few miles down the road.
It is time for my son to go off on his own and he gets to do it in the coolest car on campus.
Congrats to the 3 of you. I can’t imagine how proud you must be.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 20 2020, 09:36 PM
It has been fun but as of tomorrow morning, 9-4-green will be leaving my garage and heading off to it's new life in a new garage.
I'm not selling it, my oldest is taking it with him when he moves into his dorm for his first year of college.
It is bitter-sweet beyond description. My oldest son is going off to college. He took enough dual enrollment classes in high school to enter college as a sophomore with a 4.0 GPA. His schedule is a little heavy but he will get out with his masters in finance and a minor in theater in four years.
I can't put into words how proud I am of him. He has come so far.
He was three when he was diagnosed with autism. He was non-verbal, he had multiple sensory issues, he was completely non-social with anyone but his mom or I. Other kids might as well have been invisible, adults who tried to talk to him caused a blood curdling, "I'm being murdered with a knife", top of the lungs scream. If you think of a typical child with autism in your head, yeah, that was my son at three years old.
My wife spent his early years taking him to therapists, doctors, specialist, etc, etc. She typically spent over 40 hours a week taking him to people who could help him and it paid off. My wife and my son worked so hard and I am so proud of both of them.
My son is heading off on his next great adventure and I am so excited for him, even more than I am sad to see him go. I am happy he is not going far, his college is just a few miles down the road.
It is time for my son to go off on his own and he gets to do it in the coolest car on campus.
Congrats to the 3 of you. I can’t imagine how proud you must be.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 21 2020, 06:01 AM
That is truly inspiring and amazing. Congratulations to your son for all of his accomplishments thus far and for you and your wife for getting him to college and with a very cool car that just happens to be a great color too.
Oh, hopefully he won't drive it like he stole it......
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 21 2020, 04:50 PM
Thank you all for the kind words.
They are safely moved into college life. Nathan has his 914 flag and his award from last years Rt 66 event hanging proudly in his dorm room.
We got him moved in and set up in his room and then went to get some food on campus. I think he is going to like college. He noticed (in his words), " a lot of really cute girls".
The 914 looks really small among all the SUV's and modern sedans in the parking garage. Small is ok, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it is the size of the fight in the dog.
I am not worried about him driving it like he stole it, he drives like a grandma. ![yellowsleep[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
Posted by: djway Sep 21 2020, 10:27 PM
Thank you all for the kind words.
They are safely moved into college life. Nathan has his 914 flag and his award from last years Rt 66 event hanging proudly in his dorm room.
We got him moved in and set up in his room and then went to get some food on campus. I think he is going to like college. He noticed (in his words), " a lot of really cute girls".
The 914 looks really small among all the SUV's and modern sedans in the parking garage. Small is ok, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it is the size of the fight in the dog.
I am not worried about him driving it like he stole it, he drives like a grandma.
I hope he never met my Grandma...........
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 22 2020, 10:20 PM
Super nice Family ! ... and guest appearance by Martin Baker (Right) having some fun at Rennsport Reunion6, 2018 
Posted by: steuspeed Sep 23 2020, 12:33 AM
NARP plate that is awesome!
Don't put Swepco in the trans. Worst thing I ever did to my 914. The syncros need PLAIN OLD 90wt cheapo gear oil to work properly. Once contaminated it will take 2 or 3 changes to get it all out.
Posted by: AZBanks Sep 23 2020, 03:15 AM
Love that picture!!
I can't wait for RSR 7. Looking forward to seeing old friends and making new ones.
My wife isn't a fan of the plate but Nathan and I like it.
Thanks for the info on the Swepco. I had no idea. Looks like 9-4-Green will be coming back for a visit and flush soon.
Posted by: AZBanks Nov 7 2020, 06:05 PM
I had a great time with my son at the C&C at FourTilFour this morning. 
Our time at the Arizona emissions testing station was not as much fun. The car failed (again).
1.8 liter with dual Webers AFAIK it is stock other than the Webers. Stock cam, stock pistons, etc. It is at factory specs, idles at 900 and the timing is at 7.5.
The test report has the numbers from the previous test listed at the bottom. I'd like to think I can get it to pass with just an adjustment to the timing. Any suggestions on what I need to do to get it to pass?
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Posted by: michael7810 Nov 7 2020, 06:49 PM
I recommend you take it to a shop that has experience getting VW engines to pass emissions. Timing, idle speed, jets, accel pump setting, etc are all interrelated. Plus they know which stations have people that know how to drive the car to help it pass.
Posted by: AZBanks May 6 2021, 09:01 PM
I ended up taking the car to Don Jackson and he got it to pass emissions and Nathan had some fun with it at college. He took his room mates out for some rides and drove it to the store occasionally.
Then he noticed that it was marking it's territory a little too much so it returned to the garage. Nathan wasn't too disappointed. He LOVED college and didn't have much need to leave campus so the 914 was sitting most of the time.
He is now back at home for the summer and we are dropping the engine and trans to fix some oil leaks this weekend.
To go with fixing the oil leaks, we have been on a buying spree for AC parts(driving in Phoenix in the summer without AC is brutal).
We are building a custom AC system using an original under dash controller/evaporator unit with a new Sanden sd5h11 6333 compressor and a 11" X 21" parallel flow condenser mounted to the engine lid with dual high flow/low profile 10" fans.
The condenser is bigger that the factory condenser on my 1990 944 Cab.
I will be using R-134 and I am hoping the more efficient condenser design and larger size will offset the inefficiency of using R-134.
The biggest challenge was finding a mounting bracket for the compressor. I found a supplier out of Singapore that listed a top mount for a type 1 engine but no one had a mount bracket for a type four on any website I could find.
I've read somewhere here on 914world that Ed at gilmore-enterprises.net was building a 914 kit but when I checked his website, no dice.
The website did say to call if you have questions or want info about custom or future kits, etc so I called and Ed hooked me up with a mounting bracket and a pulley and all the mounting hardware.
There is a shop in Phoenix that specializes in rebuilding old AC lines and building custom AC lines.
I am debating the merits of having them make the lines vs buying a crimper and doing it myself.
Posted by: AZBanks May 8 2021, 06:51 PM
Parts are beginning to arrive.
Posted by: AZBanks May 13 2021, 01:42 PM
A am wondering if I need to create a shroud to block off the small area of the condenser that isn't covered by the fans.
The angle of the picture is deceptive. The fans hang off both ends by about 1/8 th of an inch. There is very little wasted fan space and uncovered condenser space.
This will be mounted to the underside of a GT style engine lid.
If I get creative I could set this up to pull air into the engine compartment or push air out. What is the normal airflow direction through the engine lid. I don't want to fight against the normal airflow.
Posted by: 914e May 16 2021, 04:24 PM
Parts are beginning to arrive.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5245 I hope to see a build thread on the AC project.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 14 2021, 08:01 AM
Is it ok to use push rod tubes that have some small dings/dents from being removed?
Posted by: mate914 Jun 14 2021, 10:38 AM
Is it ok to use push rod tubes that have some small dings/dents from being removed?
Yes, if they are small its ok.
Matt
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:02 PM
Per some suggestions I spun the AC project off into it's own thread. This is where I'll keep other posts about the progress of the car.
Here's the engine after it came out of the car and had some parts removed.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:04 PM
After media blasting.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:06 PM
Primer.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:06 PM
Paint.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:08 PM
Time to reassemble.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:13 PM
914Werke powdercoated tins. The originals were so nasty and rusty, I didn't even try to save them. 
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:19 PM
I media blasted, cleaned, and painted the push pod tubes. What a PITA!!!!
Next time I'm just buying new ones. Halfway through the process with these I was tempted to scrap them but I am under a time crunch and don't have time to wait for a shipment. At least they look halfway decent.
I used the McMaster X shaped seals. I found that they worked best if I seated them and then pulled the tubes and seated them a second time. I used the sealant/gasket maker that Mark Henry recommended. if they leak, I'm going to Canada and kicking his butt. 
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Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:22 PM
As usual, I spent twice as much time cleaning oil and crap of the various parts of the engine and refinishing things as I did taking it apart and putting it together.
It's true, just because you can't tell, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:23 PM
Getting cooler.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 15 2021, 06:24 PM
Time to get off the computer and get this thing back together and back in the car. 
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 21 2021, 12:21 PM
Ready to be installed.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 21 2021, 12:26 PM
In and ready to be buttoned up. I still had a lot of work to do on the AC system at this point but I was thrilled that it all fit with the AC compressor mounted. With the old York compressors, you had to cut out a section of the engine shelf. 
Posted by: tygaboy Jun 21 2021, 04:05 PM
OK, so now it's MY turn:
Who said you could have mismatched painted components on your engine stand?
914 Design Committee, indeed...
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 21 2021, 04:44 PM
OK, so now it's MY turn:
Who said you could have mismatched painted components on your engine stand?
914 Design Committee, indeed...
I checked with a higher authority.
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Posted by: AZBanks Jun 23 2021, 03:47 PM
Is there a good temporary fix for a broken clutch tube in the tunnel?
Posted by: michael7810 Jun 23 2021, 04:06 PM
Is there a good temporary fix for a broken clutch tube in the tunnel?
It’s been a while but I remember something like remove the shifter and install a U-bolt around the tube with the ends and nuts on the outside of the tunnel near the driver’s legs. That will hold it in place until you can have it properly welded.
Posted by: StarBear Jun 23 2021, 04:28 PM
Sweet!
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 23 2021, 05:30 PM
Based on the quality of the work I am seeing, one or more of the PO's of this car really liked to diversify when hiring companies to work on this car.
They apparently hired Barilla, Riscossa, and De Cecco, Inc. to handle a lot of the wiring.
They must have hired Sawyer, Krueger, and Voorhees, Inc. to create the access holes in the tunnel.
The holes in the tunnel are not very clean/neat but they do give me access to some parts of the tunnel.
My question is if I really need to have them closed up when I am done fixing the issues with the clutch tube.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 28 2021, 11:34 AM
The clutch tube at the firewall.
The cable housing is pulling into the tunnel every time I push in the clutch pedal. 
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 28 2021, 11:44 AM
Temporary fix. Leftover aluminum from the AC condenser mount project.
It keeps the clutch cable housing from pulling into the tunnel when I push in the clutch pedal. 
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 28 2021, 01:47 PM
Some of this info is in the Rt 66 thread but I though I would add it here just to keep the info together.
I got the engine in and everything but the AC evaporator and wiring done in time to drop the car at Don Jackson Enterprises Tuesday moning. DJ tuned it to pass emissions and I picked it up early Wednesday afternoon(6/23/2021).
It was on the rollers at emissions testing when I noticed the fan was not turning. Not the AC fans but the fan that is attached to the crankshaft. The engine was running but the fan was not turning. 
I first installed this engine months ago. I had replaced the front crank seal before that install but I did not properly tighten the bolt that holds the fan attachment to the crank. I tightened it but not to the correct spec. That allowed the fan attachment to shear the woodruff key.
I towed the car home from the emissions testing facility.
At 8pm Wednesday night, I started dropping the engine, pulling the fan, scavenging the woodruff key off the 1.7 liter that was originally in the car and then putting it all back together.
The clutch tube fix was part of the Wednesday night wrenchfest.
I got it all back together at 10 am.
I took a nap and hit the road.
My son and I got to Santa Fe around 2:00 am and the car ran pretty well all weekend.
Posted by: AZBanks Jul 4 2021, 11:53 PM
Other than a few random no-starts where it had to be pushed a little and a wire connection that came loose at the distributor, NARP ran great for the whole Rt 66 classic.
We were the car with the least HP and we struggled on a few of the hills above Santa Fe where the elevation climbed to over 10,000 feet.
We drove the whole trip and then parked the car in the garage for the week for a well deserved rest.
Tonight was a car show and firewoorks.
Pulling into the garage I got out to check the garage floor for drops of oil and found...
NONE!!!!
I still need to clean up some wiring and finish the AC system but NARP is officially back on the road and running great!
Posted by: AZBanks Jul 27 2021, 01:29 PM
I am looking for some input on a intermittent start issue.
Sometimes the car starts right up. Other times, I turn the key and I get nothing. No clicks like a low battery, just nothing.
When that happens, it will always fire up when push started. It just doesn't start with they key.
I have Mark Henry's Ford solenoid upgrade installed and it was/is working great. When the key start works, it is really strong.
When the key start doesn't work, it is a complete failure.
The no start is getting more frequent. I am thinking it is the ignition key module/switch. I think it is failing.
Any other parts I should look at?
Exiting a July 4th Car Show/Fireworks.
Posted by: AZBanks Mar 10 2022, 07:18 PM
We have a new problem, the headlights pop up but they don't turn on. Is this a known/easy fix?
Posted by: AZBanks Mar 14 2022, 02:57 PM
It turned out to be loose wires in the rats nest some PO created under the dash. I replaced a bunch of wires but didn't have time to fix everything that was/is wrong under there. The headlights are working correctly just in time to send it in to the body shop.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 2 2022, 02:32 AM
It hasn't made it into the body shop but it is in the garage for some TLC. I will finish the AC system and clean up some other issues so it is ready for the trip to RSR 7 next September.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 7 2022, 12:24 AM
It sat outside through some Arizona monsoons while I replaced the engine in my sons Subaru Baja.
Monsoon-rain tray=very very bad!!
One of the cylinders was hydro-locked.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:31 PM
I mentioned going to the body shop. Here is why. My son got rear-ended by a chevy truck. My son pulled into the nearest parking lot and the truck took off.
It was a low speed hit so it only damaged the trunk lid, hinges and pushed in the back panel a couple inches. The trunk lid no longer latched. 
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:32 PM
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:35 PM
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:41 PM
The other problem with leaving it outside in a monsoon was that the high winds caught the unlatched trunk and bent the hinges even worse than they were from the accident. The trunk lid is not sitting on anything in this picture, it is just the bent trunk hinges holding it open.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:47 PM
Here it is after I spent some time massaging things back into place. It will need some finish work at a real body shop but the metal is 98%-ish back where it needs to be.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:50 PM
I have not replaced the hinges but this shot is with the trunk latched and the gaps and alignment look really good. 
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 11 2022, 04:59 PM
And here are the tools I used to put the metal back in place.
Posted by: tygaboy Oct 11 2022, 05:49 PM
Ugh... Sucks, for sure. And nice work getting back in shape!
Posted by: dstudeba Oct 11 2022, 05:52 PM
That sucks about the accident, but good work banging it out.
My favorite part of the picture is how the 914 is so far below the parking tennis ball.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 14 2022, 04:13 PM
News Flash, brazing is not the right solution for anything under high stress(like trunk hinge mounts)
Not to worry, it is all going away.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 14 2022, 04:14 PM
Now you see it, now you don't. 
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 14 2022, 04:16 PM
JWest to the rescue.
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 14 2022, 04:26 PM
After a few choice words trying to line the bolts up blind for the JWest hinge mounts, the trunk lid is finally back on. The the bolts are installed inside the fender through holes into the mount inside the engine compartment. If the mount is not in exactly the right spot, the holes don't line up and you can't get the bolts in. It would have been MUCH easier as a two person job, not a one person job at 2am. 
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 14 2022, 04:30 PM
BTW, This trunk lid has the holes from a luggage rack and I found one luggage rack support. I don't need it, it anyone wants it, it is yours for the cost of shipping. 
Posted by: AZBanks Oct 20 2022, 10:57 PM
The cylinder was hydrolocked and the float bowls in both Webers were full of a nasty mix of water and gas. I cleaned out the bowls and tried to clean the junk out of the jets.
I was able to get the car to run but not anywhere close to how it needs to run to pass emissions. So I took it down to Don Jackson Enterprises who has been able to tune it to get it to pass emissions the last two times it had to go in.
DJ tried to work his magic but it just wasn't running right so he did some tests including compression testing each cylinder.
Two were over 100 and two were down around 50.
So now I have to decide what to do.
I can try to clean up/repair the major oil leaks on the original 1.7 liter engine and put it back in the car hoping it is solid.
I can rebuild the original engine as a 2056
I can rebuild the 1.8 liter engine that is currently in it.
I can rebuild the 2.5 liter Subaru engine that just came out of my son's Baja and do a Subie conversion.
What would you do?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 21 2022, 06:29 AM
2056 with stock F.I. is my vote.
Posted by: tygaboy Oct 21 2022, 08:28 AM
Posted by: kerensky Oct 21 2022, 10:11 AM
Au contraire. I got 5 people in my 'teener in college. It was wintertime so I had the top off.
Anyway, fun thread so far, enjoying the story.
Sad that the experimental unterseeboot training 86'd the motor - 50 lbs of compression is really bad. If you have the time, rebuilding the original to 2056 seems like the best route. There's gotta be a good thread on that around here somewhere...
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 26 2023, 11:54 AM
I am doing a quick repair to get it back on the road in time for RSR 7.
I have started the disassembly.
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 26 2023, 11:57 AM
head
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 26 2023, 11:58 AM
jugs
Posted by: AZBanks Jun 27 2023, 09:06 AM
This is my first time doing major work on a type 4.
Is it normal to have all the carbon and oil build-up where the heads and the cylinders meet?
Posted by: Shivers Jun 27 2023, 09:28 AM
From one degree of accumulation to another. Every old air cooled engine I have pulled apart has had some.
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