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Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 27 2019, 08:25 PM

I first laid eyes on this 914 3-1/2 years ago and told the PO "I want this car". drooley.gif
Things finally fell into place and this beauty now sits in my driveway aktion035.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUZ_WM_NEg


SPECS:
Factory GT flares
914-6 suspension, brakes, steering column and ignition
2.0L with Supercharger (Jay Richardson built in the late '80s)
Twin plug heads (not connected at this point)
15" Fuchs - I believe they are 7" & 8"

This 914 has been http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=215446 and http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=145351 in the past. If you have any information concerning this car (VIN 4732922153) or the supercharged engine, please contact me via PM.

More pics to come. Delivered tonight at dusk.
Has some rough spots from sitting for a few years but will be a fun project.

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Posted by: trojanhorsepower Sep 27 2019, 08:31 PM

Fantastic! Congrats Steve

Posted by: raynekat Sep 27 2019, 09:12 PM

Great looking! Fun delivery.

Posted by: JOEPROPER Sep 28 2019, 07:52 AM

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Posted by: mepstein Sep 28 2019, 09:19 AM

Awesome!!!

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 28 2019, 09:22 AM

Nice looking car. Congrats

Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 28 2019, 11:36 AM

Thanks for all the comments. I am looking forward to bringing this 914 back to life. It has been out of commission for something like 25 years... at least!

...some content deleted - figured it out...

In process of swapping out old carb for new.
Homemade adapter plate - supercharger to carb.
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Posted by: Tdskip Sep 28 2019, 04:54 PM

Congratulations,

Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 28 2019, 07:45 PM

Have you thought about something like Megasquirt instead of a carb?


Posted by: 914forme Sep 28 2019, 07:49 PM

agree.gif would make driving the dual plugs, and fueling requirements so much easier. And it would then allow for an air to liquid intercooler setup.

Or you could run water / methanol injection also.

Congrats on the purchase

Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 28 2019, 08:53 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 28 2019, 09:45 PM) *
Have you thought about something like Megasquirt instead of a carb?

Absolutley! I actually bought a used Megasquirt system before I purchased the car (planning ahead happy11.gif )

I want to get it running first and sort out whatever issues crop up before attempting the MS conversion. And, yeah... running the twin plug setup is my goal.

My LE will remain my nice weather daily driver and this 914 will be my weekend fun car.

I may need to find a second job to support my habit dry.gif

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Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 29 2019, 02:01 AM

Congrats Steve beerchug.gif

Check your mailbox in the coming days.

Beautiful car.

Oscar

Posted by: JFJ914 Sep 29 2019, 09:50 AM

Looks good, Steve!

Posted by: 80’s old school Sep 29 2019, 10:07 AM

Pictures please! I want to see this supercharger!

I see the link you attached. It leaves me wanting to see more. How cool!

Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 29 2019, 10:28 AM

QUOTE(80’s old school @ Sep 29 2019, 12:07 PM) *
Pictures please! I want to see this supercharger!

I see the link you attached. It leaves me wanting to see more. How cool!

Pictures coming soon. It has been a busy weekend.

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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 29 2019, 10:47 AM

Congrats Steve! aktion035.gif cool_shades.gif

Posted by: preach Sep 29 2019, 02:53 PM

Very cool. I am planning a FI supercharged motor myself. Looking forward to updates!

Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 29 2019, 06:19 PM

I wanted a supercharger for the 4.0L motor. Betty told me "NO!".

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Posted by: mepstein Sep 29 2019, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 29 2019, 08:19 PM) *

I wanted a supercharger for the 4.0L motor. Betty told me "NO!".

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Do you really need more than 350hp in a 914?

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 29 2019, 07:12 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 29 2019, 06:08 PM) *
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 29 2019, 08:19 PM) *
I wanted a supercharger for the 4.0L motor. Betty told me "NO!".
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Do you really need more than 350hp in a 914?

I know a guy who went from 500hp to 750hp and last we talked was thinking about going up to 1000hp.
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Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 30 2019, 06:08 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 29 2019, 08:08 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 29 2019, 08:19 PM) *

I wanted a supercharger for the 4.0L motor. Betty told me "NO!".

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Do you really need more than 350hp in a 914?



YES!

It currently has 420HP (not verified). The 993/964 Supercharger Kit utilizes the Eaton, positive displacement supercharger to generate 50% more power over stock. That would put me somewhere in the neighborhood of 630HP. wacko.gif

https://www.tpcracing.com/product/964-993-supercharger-kit/

But the kit is 15K, and I would have to modify it to fit a 914 anyway.... so I am not going to do it.

But it would be fun to have..... idea.gif


Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 30 2019, 10:10 AM

And now... back to our regularly scheduled program happy11.gif

As promised, pictures...

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And the blemishes...

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Posted by: mepstein Sep 30 2019, 10:31 AM

I see a future COTM.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 30 2019, 12:24 PM

That is really cool.. I can't wait to hear it run.

Next Okteenerfest?


Clay

Posted by: ValcoOscar Sep 30 2019, 12:29 PM

SWEET!!!!!!!

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Oscar

Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 30 2019, 12:56 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 30 2019, 02:24 PM) *
Next Okteenerfest?

Absolutely!

Had to JBWeld one of the mounting studs on the carb plate adapter so, while waiting for that to set, decided to decode the Karmann badge... Tenth 914 built on Thursday, May 17, 1973 sunglasses.gif

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Posted by: poorsche914 Sep 30 2019, 02:10 PM

I've been doing some digging on the history of this car and the furthest back I have gotten is the late '80s.

Late '80s:
Powered by a 3.2 six. It was also around this time that @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16395 installed the factory GT flares. At some point, he traded the 914 to Jay Richardson of RPM in Daytona for a 911.
Early '90s:
Supercharged, twin plug engine installed. Built from a '73 or '74 case GA006453. So... not the engine featured in VW&P. How many of these RPM supercharged engines are out there? confused24.gif
June '93: Sold to Edward J Matthews of New York (anyone know him?)
November '94: Sold to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=13514 who owned it for over 20 years. When he bought it, it was set up as a race car - gutted interior, rear trunk floor gone, fuel cell, etc. Over time, he restored it to a street driver. I have been in contact with him and he is going to send me photos of the restoration and other info he has on this 914.
May 2016: purchased by my neighbor
September 2019: purchased by me biggrin.gif

Hell hole repaired at some point:
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Cutouts for oil tank - evidence of running a six at some point:
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Rear trunk floor replaced with metal sheet:
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Cut section of the frunk:
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Hard to see but front section is cut for an oil cooler. Stock style front valence covers this:
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Muffler:
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Posted by: Mblizzard Oct 2 2019, 11:08 AM

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Sep 30 2019, 10:56 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 30 2019, 02:24 PM) *
Next Okteenerfest?

Absolutely!

Had to JBWeld one of the mounting studs on the carb plate adapter so, while waiting for that to set, decided to decode the Karmann badge... Tenth 914 built on Thursday, May 17, 1973 sunglasses.gif

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Bring it to me and I can weld it instead of JB.

As a note, we I did this back in the 80's, we used a single 4-bbl carb. I wonder how one of the self contained https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/factory_refurbished_-_sniper_efi/parts/FR550-510?gclid=CjwKCAjwldHsBRAoEiwAd0JybW6F1suTOQ9216O2Z5m5HvEjqWbmBTjWkO_GJE_5RGQ4-HiTUlnc6RoCv_EQAvD_BwE would work on this?

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 2 2019, 12:16 PM

QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Oct 2 2019, 01:08 PM) *
Bring it to me and I can weld it instead of JB.

As a note, we I did this back in the 80's, we used a single 4-bbl carb. I wonder how one of the self contained https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/factory_refurbished_-_sniper_efi/parts/FR550-510?gclid=CjwKCAjwldHsBRAoEiwAd0JybW6F1suTOQ9216O2Z5m5HvEjqWbmBTjWkO_GJE_5RGQ4-HiTUlnc6RoCv_EQAvD_BwE would work on this?

Already JBWelded and installed. smile.gif

That self-contained unit looks interesting - will research that. Would definitely make for an easier install than Megasquirt!

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Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 14 2019, 04:43 PM

After getting the carb installed, found out the engine was seized sad.gif
Would only turn half a rotation.

Soaked the cylinders in Seafoam Deep Creep while draining the oil. Over half gallon of water came out icon8.gif Once drained, added fresh oil and a new filter along with new spark plugs and battery. Wasn't long before I was able to rotate the engine fully.

Engine now cranks but has no spark. dry.gif
My question is... does that black plastic piece pull off? I have tried with light pressure and it isn't budging.

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If that module is bad (anyone know what type it is?) or even if it isn't, I'd like to replace with points just to get it running.

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Posted by: TravisNeff Oct 14 2019, 09:37 PM

I remember reading about these engines in vwporsche mag. I think the is from a Nissan 720 pickup

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 15 2019, 06:06 AM

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I remember reading about these engines in vwporsche mag. I think the is from a Nissan 720 pickup

The Nissan distributors were used for the twin plug setup. This engine has the twin plug heads but is currently not hooked up.
The distributor itself is probably a 009 with some type of electronic ignition setup. I tried to remove the black disk but it wouldn't budge. I don't want to tear it up and was hoping someone had some insight on this particular unit.
After work today I will try again to remove the disk and module so I can replace with points and condenser. If it won't come off, I have another distributor I can use.

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Posted by: Mblizzard Oct 15 2019, 06:36 AM

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 15 2019, 04:06 AM) *

QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Oct 14 2019, 11:37 PM) *
I remember reading about these engines in vwporsche mag. I think the is from a Nissan 720 pickup

The Nissan distributors were used for the twin plug setup. This engine has the twin plug heads but is currently not hooked up.
The distributor itself is probably a 009 with some type of electronic ignition setup. I tried to remove the black disk but it wouldn't budge. I don't want to tear it up and was hoping someone had some insight on this particular unit.
After work today I will try again to remove the disk and module so I can replace with points and condenser. If it won't come off, I have another distributor I can use.

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Looks like a ring for magnets for Hall effect sensors. Should come off. Use WD-40 for lube and a heat gun on low to warm it up. Not too hot but pretty warm and it should come off.

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 15 2019, 06:37 AM

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Looks like a ring for magnets for Hall effect sensors. Should come off. Use WD-40 for lube and a heat gun on low to warm it up. Not too hot but pretty warm and it should come off.

Thanks, Mike. Will give that a try.

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Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 15 2019, 06:40 AM

That is an aftermarket magnet ring for an electronic ignition system that is no longer sold. The company went out of business. I have one in a distributor in my spare parts cache.

The ring should lift off of the distributor shaft. If it doesn't fire, it is either bad or not hooked up right.

Clay

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 15 2019, 06:44 AM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 15 2019, 08:40 AM) *
That is an aftermarket magnet ring for an electronic ignition system that is no longer sold. The company went out of business. I have one in a distributor in my spare parts cache.

The ring should lift off of the distributor shaft. If it doesn't fire, it is either bad or not hooked up right.

Clay

Thanks, Clay. No spark so going to replace it with points and condenser.

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Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 16 2019, 11:27 AM

Is that a Jacobs pointless conversion? Double check if that's a 009 distributor.

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 16 2019, 11:42 AM

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Is that a Jacobs pointless conversion? Double check if that's a 009 distributor.

No idea what brand. The black disk has four magnets. The distributor is a stock one (I think the last few numbers were 009) with FI trigger points and vacuum can removed.

Any idea how to test that (Jacobs?) unit? Hate to toss it if it can be used. Is it even worth saving?

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Posted by: mkinne Oct 16 2019, 12:38 PM

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If that module is bad (anyone know what type it is?) or even if it isn't, I'd like to replace with points just to get it running.

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That looks like a CompuFire unit.
Still available - https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C22%2D21101

The magnet disk should pull straight up/off with little effort unless someone glued it in place.

I've had one in my car >15 yrs.
No issues other than when the sticker on the module pealed off, dropped down thru the dizzy, and landed between the injector points headbang.gif

-M

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 16 2019, 05:58 PM

QUOTE(mkinne @ Oct 16 2019, 02:38 PM) *
That looks like a CompuFire unit.

The magnet disk should pull straight up/off with little effort unless someone glued it in place.

I've had one in my car >15 yrs.
No issues other than when the sticker on the module pealed off, dropped down thru the dizzy, and landed between the injector points headbang.gif

-M

Thanks. I have removed it. Will try to figure out if it is still working at some point.

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Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 19 2019, 06:17 PM

Got it running today. Running very rich.
I believe I have the timing about where it needs to be. Now I just need to adjust the carb. May need a different jet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxvSGhPtupo


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Posted by: DRPHIL914 Oct 19 2019, 06:22 PM

Congratulations!!! Fun project!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 19 2019, 06:46 PM

Unless there is a way that the original designer provided enrichment-during-boost...might be running a bit on the rich side as a preventive measure to offset lean condition when the boost comes in.
Also , did that dizzy contain dual points ? Kit builders in the '80s used dual points with each set at different dwell angles. Combined with a 5 psi Hobbs pressure switch, the first set of points cut off---allowing the second set (slightly retards the timing) to activate...also preventive of pre-ignition occuring during boost.

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 19 2019, 07:10 PM

The distributor on the engine had a pointless system in it. It was not giving any spark so I swapped it out with a setup I had.

I always planned on converting to Megasquirt (actually bought a used system before I purchased the car!) ... may do that sooner than I had planned if I can't get it to run well on this carb.

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 19 2019, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Oct 19 2019, 06:10 PM) *

The distributor on the engine had a pointless system in it. It was not giving any spark so I swapped it out with a setup I had.

I always planned on converting to Megasquirt (actually bought a used system before I purchased the car!) ... may do that sooner than I had planned if I can't get it to run well on this carb.

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DO IT, much easier to tune a forced induction set up with efi. Intercooling with a carb is not-productive (unless running a sealed blow-through carb) which looks impossible with a top carb mount on the blower.
Liquid injection (H2o/ alc) is your only real alternative to charge cooling with a draw-through carb system.

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 20 2019, 04:47 PM

Well... got it running a bit smoother today but it is running EXTREMELY rich blink.gif
I've gone through over 3 gallons of gas this weekend just firing it up and running it in the driveway! wacko.gif

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I'm giving serious thought to pulling the supercharger setup for now and installing a stock D-jet system just so I can drive the car during east TN fall weather driving.gif

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 21 2019, 04:41 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbVgTY7a_s


Actually drove it about half mile down the road and back. Found out it won't stay in third gear dry.gif Minor issue...

Still need to find the correct carb settings. Idles OK but sputters a bit around 4k or so. From what I've read, need a smaller idle jet since I have the mixture screw only about 1/2 turn out and recommended is 2 to 2-1/2.
Another mounting stud pulled loose so may very well have a vacuum leak at the base of the carb. Will fix that and then continue with adjustments.

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Posted by: 914forme Oct 22 2019, 07:41 PM

If you have the base plate it is easy to get it into CAD and then cut out on a CNC Plasma Cutter, WaterJet, or Laser Cutter. Then just add the studs, and a bit of lactate green and you're done. done right done once, more time to driving.gif

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 22 2019, 08:16 PM

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If you have the base plate it is easy to get it into CAD and then cut out on a CNC Plasma Cutter, WaterJet, or Laser Cutter. Then just add the studs, and a bit of lactate green and you're done. done right done once, more time to driving.gif

Can I borrow your CNC Plasma Cutter/Waterjet/Laser Cutter? happy11.gif
JBweld didn't hold up so I will have my son-in-law weld the studs in for me. welder.gif
Since I have absolutely no idea what jets to use with this supercharger setup, and the engine must have run "properly" at some point in its life confused24.gif I have decided to set the new carb aside and rebuild the original Weber. It is gunked up pretty good so needs cleaned and a rebuild kit at the very least.

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Posted by: djway Oct 22 2019, 09:41 PM

Have you considered welding in an O2 bung and use it with a wideband meter? It really helped me repair my old fuel injection when I needed to set the mixture.

Posted by: poorsche914 Oct 22 2019, 10:14 PM

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Have you considered welding in an O2 bung and use it with a wideband meter? It really helped me repair my old fuel injection when I needed to set the mixture.

I actually just read about someone doing that when tuning their carb on a VW Bus. It really helped to dial in the jetting. I need to investigate that further. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Posted by: poorsche914 Nov 1 2019, 05:22 PM

UPDATE: noted the jet sizes for the old carb and replicated in the new carb. Last jet came in today. Installed, set the timing, and drove down the road. Ran good but wasn't brave enough to wind it out too high. 4000 or so was tops. Only have two gears and streets are residential/rural. Plus, didn't want to get too far from home in case it quit running for some reason!

Next step is to get the shift linkage sorted out. Unfortunately, my weekend is filled with other "stuff" to do so probably won't get to it for a while.

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Posted by: 914rrr Dec 10 2019, 07:55 PM

Congrats on your purchase. This was one of my 914 magazine dream cars (anybody remember the blue Bond centerfold 914/6 with the the wide IMSA bodywork?). I actually met Jay Richardson around 2005 while living in the Knoxville, TN area. His dad Maurice was my realtor and told me he had a Porsche too. He proceeded to bring over his 911 Turbo that Jay built ( how I met Jay). He let me drive it. OMG, it was an absolute monster, and a bucket list moment for me. He may still be in the Knoxville area.

I can speak to the challenges of adding a turbo or supercharger to a 914... and getting it to run properly. I purchased a turbo'd 914 many years ago from the estate of the late owner / builder Ed Atkinson. It was a 73 2.0 with a Crown / Rayjay turbo kit that had almost every period available add-on component thrown at it... custom cam, stock D-jet injection with rising rate fuel pressure regulator, Hobbs switch that switched on the cold start injector for boost enrichment, (small) custom intercooler, Ak Miller wastegate (OG Crown turbo kit didn't have one, LOL), cockpit adjustable static and boost retard ignition timing, Permatune, cockpit adjustable boost valve, old school alcohol / water injection (literally a windshield washer pump blowing the mixture into the turbo intake via a windshield washer nozzle), custom 2.5" Corvair Turbo exhaust plumbing, external oil cooler, Turbo Corvair air cleaner and muffler, etc.

I purchased the car off Ebay. The test drive hooked me, relatively flat flat torque..until it hit boost. Then the torque curve went vertical!! Trouble was, once it warmed up, it started detonating like crazy. I bought the old "How to Turbo" book, read it cover to cover, endlessly surfed VW and Corvair web forums, contacted everybody I could, including Jake Raby, Maltese Falcon (thanks Marty!), Ak Miller (RIP), Peter Dawe (friend of Ed the builder), pbanders, the locash racing boys, etc. I owned it (twice), tinkered with it for months on end, and never got it to run right / not detonate. After finding out that the turbo / exhaust plumbing was rusting out, the turbo oil return was compromised, the TB was a PITA to get to / adjust, etc. etc. I removed the turbo bits and returned it to stock.

Here were my take-ways from my experiences:

Stock D-Jet doesn't work well with a turbo. The system is meant to see vacuum, not boost, unless you somehow modify the now rare / $$$ MPS. Thanks pbanders!

The alky-water system wasn't working and I took it off. In retrospect, I think this was THE key to making the whole system work.

You may also need a way to retard the timing during boost. I think MS can do that, as well as boost enrichment.

My 914 was restored to a high standard by the PO. It was actually worth more stock than with the turbo. The vintage Crown / Rayjay / Corvair turbo and other bits were easy to sell for (crazy) $$$, people were actually fighting over them. Other add-ons sold for $$$ as well..Scheel seats, SEV Marchall dual element headlamps, etc. It's crazy to think that someone purchased a $4000-ish 914, added a $1200 turbo kit (then extensively modified it!), a $1000 pair of seats, $200 headlights, added Koni's, custom sway bars, etc...., all in 70's $$$!!!.

After talking at length with builders of VW aircooled and carb'd turbo cars, (even American V8's) it's really difficult to get one to run right, not run hot etc. FI is the best way to go. If you want to give the carb route a go, check with the aircooled VW drag guys or Turbo Corvair guys. They've been doing it for decades and have (most) of the bugs worked out.

Nothing beats telling someone at a C&C / P-car GTG that you owned a turbo'd 914 with D-Jet FI biggrin.gif

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Posted by: poorsche914 Dec 10 2019, 08:37 PM

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Congrats on your purchase. This was one of my 914 magazine dream cars...
Thank you, @914rrr I have the issue of VW&P you speak of.
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I actually met Jay Richardson... He may still be in the Knoxville area.
A friend of mine who knows Jay's wife says they live in Oak Ridge. I'd really like to talk to him about this engine and 914.
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I can speak to the challenges of adding a turbo or supercharger to a 914... I removed the turbo bits and returned it to stock.
I am going to try Megasquirt and see if I can get it to run properly that way. If not, then I will remove the supercharger and run the "stock" build with twin-plug heads.
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Here were my take-ways from my experiences:
... I think MS can do that, as well as boost enrichment.
I believe this setup needs MS or some other tuneable FI system.
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My 914 was restored to a high standard by the PO...
This 914 was once a race car but restored back to street dress by one of the POs. Though not perfect (it sat outside for 3 years), it has not only the factory steel GT flares but a lot of 914-6 bits.
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Nothing beats telling someone at a C&C / P-car GTG that you owned a turbo'd 914 with D-Jet FI biggrin.gif
Yeah, or a supercharged 914! I just want to feel that boost at least once dry.gif

I haven't done anything to this 914 for the past several weeks. Last thing I did was check compression: 130+ on 1, 3, 4 but just over 110 on #2
Pretty sure #2 was the one that had been seized from sitting so long. I am going to pull the engine and have whatever damage is there repaired.

In the meantime, I plan to pull the Raby 2056 from my LE and install it in the GT just so I can put some miles on that car. The LE needs a rustoration to bring it back to its stock form, anyway, so it is a good time to park it for a long while (it's been my daily driver for most of the past 8 or so years)

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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 11 2019, 07:55 AM

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I've been doing some digging on the history of this car and the furthest back I have gotten is the late '80s.

Late '80s:
Powered by a 3.2 six. It was also around this time that @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16395 installed the factory GT flares. At some point, he traded the 914 to Jay Richardson of RPM in Daytona for a 911.
Early '90s:
Supercharged, twin plug engine installed. Built from a '73 or '74 case GA006453. So... not the engine featured in VW&P. How many of these RPM supercharged engines are out there? confused24.gif
June '93: Sold to Edward J Matthews of New York (anyone know him?)
November '94: Sold to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=13514 who owned it for over 20 years. When he bought it, it was set up as a race car - gutted interior, rear trunk floor gone, fuel cell, etc. Over time, he restored it to a street driver. I have been in contact with him and he is going to send me photos of the restoration and other info he has on this 914.
May 2016: purchased by my neighbor
September 2019: purchased by me biggrin.gif

Hell hole repaired at some point:
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Cutouts for oil tank - evidence of running a six at some point:
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Rear trunk floor replaced with metal sheet:
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Cut section of the frunk:
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Muffler:
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I know the June of '93 owner from New York
I resurrected a long dormant 914 6 for him a couple years ago.
At the time he mentioned this car to me and how he regretted selling it
See topic title 'This doesn't happen every day'

Posted by: poorsche914 Dec 11 2019, 01:37 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 11 2019, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Sep 30 2019, 03:10 PM) *

I've been doing some digging on the history of this car and the furthest back I have gotten is the late '80s.

I know the June of '93 owner from New York
I resurrected a long dormant 914 6 for him a couple years ago.
At the time he mentioned this car to me and how he regretted selling it
See topic title 'This doesn't happen every day'

Wow, that is amazing! Do you still see him nowadays? If you could give him my email address (I will PM to you) that would be awesome.

Thanks!
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Posted by: poorsche914 Apr 28 2020, 06:02 PM

Thought I'd update this project thread.

Discussion of adding a http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=342331&st=0#entry2774774 happened back in December.

I made contact with both the engine builder and the owner who bought it. So now I have talked to the five previous owners before me. It appears the engine has less than 50 miles on it since being built 30 years ago!

Earlier this year, I pulled the supercharged engine and swapped in the 2056 from my daily driver LE. Got it all buttoned up in time to take it to Amelia first part of March. There and back without an issue driving.gif

Yesterday I visited a local body shop to get an estimate on repairing all the paint blemishes - rock chips, surface rust, lifting paint - in preparation for a vinyl wrap. Now I just need to make an appointment to have the work done.
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Today, I took notes on interior condition and will be refurbing/replacing parts to get the cockpit in shape. At some point I will have to tackle the spaghetti wiring icon8.gif
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 28 2020, 07:08 PM

Never was a dull moment with a forced induction T4.
Here at RIR, parked on the infield near turn 6. Drove there on street tires, then changed to 7" slicks for the time trials. On the mps, I first started using a 1-way check valve to keep boost out of the mps. Then I found a small company "Control box Specialties" that used an alum disc inside the mps...instead of the neoprene one. They also rebuilt 914 ecu's , etc. But they vanished after a couple years.
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Posted by: poorsche914 May 3 2020, 07:59 AM

Removing exterior trim to get ready for a bit of bodywork in the near future.

I've seen worse happy11.gif
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Posted by: poorsche914 May 14 2020, 08:12 PM

Working on the interior.
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Stripped the dash - upper pad, dash face, lower pad. Removed ash tray.
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Pretty rough shape...
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Swapped water damaged door panels for some in better condition. Using original tan panels that came in my LE but DAPO dyed them black WTF.gif
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So, I sprayed them "camel" and they turned out great!
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Posted by: ablesnead Aug 23 2020, 05:09 PM

Just to mention when I owned your car it had a 3.2 with 46 webers.....also the original twin plug type four in the VWPorsche mag was mine ..

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 23 2020, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(ablesnead @ Aug 23 2020, 07:09 PM) *
Just to mention when I owned your car it had a 3.2 with 46 webers.....also the original twin plug type four in the VWPorsche mag was mine ..

Thanks for that bit of info, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16395
Any history of the car before you got it? Or more details from when you owned it? Was it already set up as a racer when you got it or did you do all the mods?

As an update to the project itself... not much has happened lately. I did manage to install a set of newly dyed seats. I have been trying to get an affordable center console that I plan to customize to fit but sellers keep flaking out on me dry.gif so that part of the project has been on hold for the past few months!

Thinking about going with a tan backpad.
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Posted by: 914forme Aug 24 2020, 01:58 PM

Wow I like the look of that interior drooley.gif

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 24 2020, 02:02 PM

What are you up to Steve? Cinnamon crisis? biggrin.gif

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 24 2020, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Aug 24 2020, 04:02 PM) *
What are you up to Steve? Cinnamon crisis? biggrin.gif

YES!
The tan dye doesn't have the texture the "cinnamon" has but I prefer tan to black for the interior. I've got some ideas on customizing the dash and center console that are slowly coming together.

QUOTE(914forme @ Aug 24 2020, 03:58 PM) *
Wow I like the look of that interior drooley.gif

Thanks, Stephen. Still a ways to go for the rest of the interior (dash is still totally stripped) but I've got a plan happy11.gif

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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Aug 24 2020, 02:17 PM

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Aug 24 2020, 04:12 PM) *

The tan dye doesn't have the texture the "cinnamon" has but I prefer tan to black for the interior. I've got some ideas on customizing the dash and center console that are slowly coming together.

73 had cinnamon arm rests for the doors drooley.gif

Posted by: djway Aug 24 2020, 10:43 PM

Doing to very top of the door panels black would be a nice accent. Looks great.

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 25 2020, 06:16 AM

QUOTE(djway @ Aug 25 2020, 12:43 AM) *
Doing to very top of the door panels black would be a nice accent. Looks great.
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Posted by: DRPHIL914 Aug 25 2020, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Aug 24 2020, 04:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Aug 24 2020, 04:02 PM) *
What are you up to Steve? Cinnamon crisis? biggrin.gif

YES!
The tan dye doesn't have the texture the "cinnamon" has but I prefer tan to black for the interior. I've got some ideas on customizing the dash and center console that are slowly coming together.

QUOTE(914forme @ Aug 24 2020, 03:58 PM) *
Wow I like the look of that interior drooley.gif

Thanks, Stephen. Still a ways to go for the rest of the interior (dash is still totally stripped) but I've got a plan happy11.gif

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who cares what it looks like, as long as it RUNS!!, right Steve? poke.gif
seriously, though i do like the 2 tone interior as well! Istill have to work on getting my wiper blades working again - just in case ....

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 25 2020, 12:51 PM

QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Aug 25 2020, 02:41 PM) *
who cares what it looks like, as long as it RUNS!!, right Steve? poke.gif

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That's been my motto all along (as those who have seen my LE can testify). rolleyes.gif

As for the mods - with this '73, I have free reign to customize as I see fit for many reasons chief among them... it is not an LE!!! I actually have a plan - it is just going very slowly blink.gif

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Posted by: get off my lawn Aug 25 2020, 05:30 PM

You can't supercharge a 914 slap.gif

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 25 2020, 05:57 PM

QUOTE(get off my lawn @ Aug 25 2020, 07:30 PM) *
You can't supercharge a 914 slap.gif

Well... you can but probably not advisable screwy.gif
Once I get a Megasquirt system installed it will be interesting to see what happens shades.gif

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