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Posted by: RolinkHaus Oct 7 2019, 05:08 PM

Noticed the engine bracket is bent. Not to worry, the engine will probably be dropped to replace and remove the oil cooler. Good times.... hissyfit.gif

Posted by: URY914 Oct 7 2019, 06:04 PM

Not a biggie. Mine was bent one time.

Posted by: RolinkHaus Oct 7 2019, 06:14 PM

Forgot the pic

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Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 7 2019, 06:29 PM

Bolt not bracket, and yes replace it.

Posted by: 914Sixer Oct 7 2019, 06:49 PM

Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again.

Posted by: RolinkHaus Oct 7 2019, 07:28 PM

914Sixer,

Where can I get them?

Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 7 2019, 10:48 PM

The "mount" is not bent. just the bolt. If you run over a speed bump that has some height you will do this again. Jack it up. unbolt and go to your local hardware store. should be about $3 give or take.
I do have some of Bruce's kits but really it's only one bolt. put the bling on it when you drop and clean.

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 8 2019, 02:30 AM

engine mounts probably separated too..



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Posted by: RolinkHaus Oct 8 2019, 04:16 AM

Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up?

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 8 2019, 05:12 AM

QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 8 2019, 03:16 AM) *

Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up?

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Pictured mount you show here would be for the 1970-72 model years, as the Outboard - Located style. These attach at the engine bar Left and Right ends, and then the engine is attached (solid) directly to the center of this bar.. 1973-up style is what you are running; with solid mounted Outboard...and the different style neoprene/ studded mounts (center of bar) that are shown in prev post. The latter is required in your model year...and a new bolt ¡

Posted by: Olympic 914 Oct 8 2019, 09:19 AM

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 7 2019, 08:49 PM) *

Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again.


Not to dis Bruce's products but it is not a bad idea to have a weak link there. If you hit something its better to have the bolt bend or the U bracket bend. you can easily hammer the U bracket back into shape or replace the bolt. you don't want to strengthen the bracket and have the motor mount welded to the body bend instead.

JMHO

Don't be surprised if the bolts break off. just apply some heat and drive the piece out.

Posted by: RolinkHaus Oct 8 2019, 10:14 AM

Good point. I think I’m just going replace the factory parts.

Posted by: bdstone914 Oct 8 2019, 02:16 PM

QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Oct 8 2019, 08:19 AM) *

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 7 2019, 08:49 PM) *

Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again.


Not to dis Bruce's products but it is not a bad idea to have a weak link there. If you hit something its better to have the bolt bend or the U bracket bend. you can easily hammer the U bracket back into shape or replace the bolt. you don't want to strengthen the bracket and have the motor mount welded to the body bend instead.

JMHO

Don't be surprised if the bolts break off. just apply some heat and drive the piece out.


My brackets are only a few thousand thicker than original. The bolts will still bend when hit.
Mist if those brackets are bent from lifting the car from the engine bar.
That's why I remade them.


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Posted by: bdstone914 Oct 8 2019, 02:20 PM

QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 7 2019, 04:08 PM) *

Noticed the engine bracket is bent. Not to worry, the engine will probably be dropped to replace and remove the oil cooler. Good times.... hissyfit.gif


Both the bolt and bracket are probably bent. When you replace them insert the bolt from the bottom. When the car bottoms out it prevents the threads from damage making removal difficult.
Bruce

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Oct 8 2019, 03:02 PM

the bolt is upside down

Posted by: davep Oct 8 2019, 03:25 PM

Bruce & George are correct, the head of the bolt should be at the bottom. The channel bracket will be bent; I've not see a used one in nearly 50 years that wasn't. May as well use new ones like Bruce sells; that kit looks well thought out. Make sure the holes in the bar are clean and well greased; I've seen many bolts seized in the bars. I would grease and cap the exposed threads when done.

Posted by: Literati914 Oct 9 2019, 11:24 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 8 2019, 06:12 AM) *

QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 8 2019, 03:16 AM) *

Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up?

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Pictured mount you show here would be for the 1970-72 model years, as the Outboard - Located style. These attach at the engine bar Left and Right ends, and then the engine is attached (solid) directly to the center of this bar..



Does anyone have a picture of these installed ? I keep reading these go on the ends on early cars but have never seen it.. and now I've got a '72 I'm messing with. TIA.

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 9 2019, 12:37 PM

After 50 yrs ,,it really matters which transmission you have,, early tail shift(lower pic)... later side shift(upper pic)..


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