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Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 6 2019, 11:35 AM

First of all
ROB- no it's not the roll bar.
Yes it's a part we all need and when we announce I'll tell the full story behind these, as it wasn't as simple as we originally thought.

A few of you are have seen these, you know what I'm talking about.

Any guesses from the masses?

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 6 2019, 11:41 AM

Is it the roll bar?

Posted by: mepstein Nov 6 2019, 11:43 AM

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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 6 2019, 11:43 AM

I’m guessing full high performance suspension components?

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 6 2019, 11:44 AM

Aluminum brake calipers.

Posted by: 914werke Nov 6 2019, 11:46 AM

reproduction aluminum alloy Rear brake calipers

Posted by: Not_A_Six Nov 6 2019, 11:46 AM

PCV valves?

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 6 2019, 11:55 AM

Elbow Grease!!!

My car needs a ton of it


But seriously, brake fluid reservoir cover.

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 6 2019, 11:57 AM

Good guess. Except I have one.

Posted by: Minerva's 914 Nov 6 2019, 12:06 PM

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 6 2019, 12:11 PM

Nice

Posted by: sb914 Nov 6 2019, 12:43 PM

Posted by: Garland Nov 6 2019, 12:53 PM

Quotes that may apply at 914 Rubber

Thomas Edison quotes:
“I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.”

“Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time.”

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There’s been try’s before, and lots of talk/noise lately.
My hope is a roof, with a new name? But since “we all need these” not sure.

Posted by: abes914 Nov 6 2019, 02:10 PM

carbon fiber goodies

Posted by: Chi-town Nov 6 2019, 02:19 PM

rust free shells?

Posted by: Costa05 Nov 6 2019, 02:38 PM

Affordable stock front swaybar and drop links.

Posted by: dt4 Nov 6 2019, 02:41 PM

A UK stockist / distributor

Posted by: CHIZ 914 Nov 6 2019, 02:58 PM

Plug and play more power?

Posted by: PanelBilly Nov 6 2019, 03:32 PM

New back seats?

Posted by: mobymutt Nov 6 2019, 03:43 PM

Yes, body-in-white! I'll take one!

Posted by: sb914 Nov 6 2019, 04:06 PM

rear sail panel trim that’s not made out of tinfoil!

Posted by: mb911 Nov 6 2019, 04:37 PM

Would love that..

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 6 2019, 05:55 PM

In the works but these are a little way out.

Posted by: mepstein Nov 6 2019, 06:51 PM

LOL! Half of mine have a big screw hole just like that.

Posted by: Dion Nov 6 2019, 07:02 PM

Please let it be a proper, working, out of the box... key/starter switch!

Posted by: Rand Nov 6 2019, 07:45 PM

I just wish it was black plastic bumpers. Quick and cheap. Just like the fiberglass versions, but less expensive. They would sell like hotcakes.

Posted by: 914werke Nov 6 2019, 08:21 PM

Now I KNOW youve been drink'in

Posted by: Minerva's 914 Nov 6 2019, 08:41 PM

I KNOW!!!

A time machine so I can go back to 1974 and buy that silver 914-6 with option code 471 I test drove at Triangle Porsche / Audi in Durham, NC

And if I can have a two-fer, go back to 1979 and NOT sell my 1966 911 that I drove for 7 years. (Bought it for $3000, sold it for $4000 and could not believe how lucky I was, LOL nobody drives a car for 7 years and sells it at a 30% premium).

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Nov 6 2019, 08:52 PM

Cup holders that will work in the 914

Posted by: Morrie Nov 6 2019, 08:57 PM

Complete backpads with fiberglass form ready to install.

Posted by: Rand Nov 6 2019, 09:23 PM

You don't think this has market potential? Duh, we've seen fiberglass and carbon for decades now. But there are people who want bumpers that are lightweight and less expensive than fiberglass. Vacuum mold (or what Mark knows what to do right) is a POP verses a layup. Bang, out the door to a huge market.

Posted by: Rob-O Nov 6 2019, 10:41 PM

Porsche has these (repops) in stock. I bought some from Sierra Madre. Passenger side fit well, drivers side fit terrible. I tried a couple before I gave up and got a refund. The drivers side all have an incorrect curve. It causes the ends (the ones that usually have a screw hole) to sit at an angle instead of a straight line that runs from the mesh engine grill caps.

I’m voting backpad...already foamed and covered. But I’d take the roll bar trim!!!

Posted by: porschetub Nov 6 2019, 10:51 PM

,great reply .

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 12:05 AM

Working on that, just not fiberglass

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 12:07 AM

Actually looked at these.
The preliminary plan was to use Kevlar, it is actually more resilient than carbon fiber, but we do have the capability to do carbon fiber.

Will officially announce this weekend but love the guesses, some of them are stuff we have in the works. I'd bet no one would see this one coming.

Posted by: Steve Nov 7 2019, 07:27 AM

Did you give up on the Saratoga tops?

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 7 2019, 07:30 AM

So if we're playing 100 questions...

Would it be something that could go on My car? (This would really narrow it down...)

I agree with the ignition switch though... There is a real lack for aftermarket that works on that.

Posted by: sb914 Nov 7 2019, 11:02 AM

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 12:39 PM

No, the tooling is complete now. The only problem we have is the buffiing. each top takes about 8 hrs of cleaning and buffing. Going into the holidays not the direction we can go. Expect movement on these in January. Unfortunately the costs will be going up a little, but then next gen ones are more dialed in.
Mark

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 12:39 PM

Yes EVERYONE needs these

Posted by: barefoot Nov 7 2019, 01:32 PM

Item called "Padding front" goes across top of windshield frame that sun visors screw thru P/N 914 563 02113

Made of heavy vinyl or something like that.

Posted by: mmichalik Nov 7 2019, 01:45 PM

Come on, tell us already. So we can all send you money for shiny new things.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Nov 7 2019, 02:01 PM

Cross drilled brake lines?

Hollow plug wires?

Electrical Smoke repair kit?

Blinker Fluid?

A new Powerband?

Canned Elbow grease?

Flux Capacitors?

Piston return springs?

Knutzen valves?

Boost bar?

710 Cap?

Butt dyno?

Johnson Rod?

Left handed metric screwdriver?




Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 7 2019, 02:12 PM

Sticky tires?

Squeak remover aka targa top rear latch bumper things, early & late.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 02:47 PM

I'll throw you a bone here.

Not really shiny.

Either way when these launch they will provide some entertainment too.

Posted by: rjames Nov 7 2019, 02:59 PM

Speakers that fit in the stock housings?

Posted by: Rand Nov 7 2019, 03:27 PM

Will it make my car go faster, or stop faster? If not, my trigger finger isn't clicking. Isn't it enough already? Spill the fucking thing. When free marketing gets exploited it grows old fast and tarnishes. Something for the admins to think about... free marketing.

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 7 2019, 03:45 PM

Posted by: jcd914 Nov 7 2019, 04:23 PM

I'm pretty sure I saw all of these for sale at SEMA yesterday.


Jim

Posted by: SteveL Nov 7 2019, 04:35 PM

Allright, 3 pages now. You gotta just tell us, or we will have to assume that this is a fishing expedition for new product ideas, where everyone tells you what they think we all need.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 05:12 PM

Hold tight
Official announcement Sat night.

Posted by: wes Nov 7 2019, 05:48 PM

Hold tight,,,,, Due you have any idea how long it is until Saturday night? My money’s in hand!

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 7 2019, 06:18 PM

914 Pacifier Inc


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Posted by: Rand Nov 7 2019, 06:34 PM

This is now just turning into a frustrating free advertisement that most others couldn't get away with. Time to move this to the vendors forum.

Posted by: abes914 Nov 7 2019, 06:35 PM

914 50th anniversary limited run sticker free if you purchase during black friday special.

Posted by: Krieger Nov 7 2019, 07:30 PM

Posted by: pvollma Nov 7 2019, 07:50 PM

Not from 914Rubber, but available:

Posted by: bobboinski Nov 7 2019, 07:55 PM

Speaker grill cabinet things?

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 7 2019, 08:03 PM

like this thread selling visors?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=341562&hl=

move one? move 'em all....at least this thread had some fun in it - not a blatant ad.

Personally, I don't see the harm....don't want to see it, don't click in but we go down this road once a month....

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 7 2019, 08:49 PM

I did this for fun. It's not advertising if there's nothing to buy.

I always enjoy the smarta$$ responses
Some actually quite creative.

Didn't think it would really get this much response.

I do guarantee it will benifit the comunity.

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 7 2019, 08:51 PM

Posted by: barefoot Nov 8 2019, 09:07 AM

Speakers that fit in the stock housings?
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Try these:
PYLE plus PLSL4602 they fit nicely with minor mods.
there's a thread in here somewhere with the details

Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2019, 11:01 AM

Posted by: 71six Nov 8 2019, 11:55 AM

Alloy trailing arms...

Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2019, 11:59 AM

That would be cool but super expensive.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 8 2019, 12:13 PM

It’s all good

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 8 2019, 12:32 PM

Been wishing for these ever since looking at some of the trick trailing arms for 911s—something that adds adjustability, space for more tire in the inside, and takes into account most 914s that are candidates are running 0.5-2.0 inches lower than stock.

When I think about the cost of Chris' (very attractive) pickup point relocation kit...and all of the 914 race cars out there...there's a fair bit of latitude for pricing. And unsprung weight is always something nice to get rid of.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 8 2019, 12:37 PM

The 951s did a casting for the front control arms. We are doing some work now with a suspension package. The springs we made a a 1st step toward this.
You’ll see more on that soon. Some cool stuff going on there, but that’s not it.

Posted by: tejon007 Nov 8 2019, 01:41 PM

Is it a t-stat that works?? (mine needs help before I reinstall the motor)

How about an OBD2 compatible wiring harness? (Yeah, right )

Posted by: Tdskip Nov 8 2019, 01:54 PM

Look - I love you guys and am a happy customer and all but out with it already.

Posted by: Olympic 914 Nov 8 2019, 02:22 PM

What's the hurry? its just gonna cost us more money.....

Posted by: Spoke Nov 8 2019, 02:39 PM

New and improved Johnson Rod?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu-A8YfC4w0

Posted by: 914bub Nov 8 2019, 05:08 PM

15 or 17 millimeter front sway bars

Posted by: 914sgofast2 Nov 8 2019, 07:36 PM

Whatever it is, it will be just in time for our Christmas lists!

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 8 2019, 07:55 PM

Yes it will.

Posted by: Betty Nov 8 2019, 10:01 PM

Why on earth are you guys so freaking impatient?!

Antici....................pation can be... awesome.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Nov 9 2019, 07:21 AM

What the h3ll would the OBD2 plug connect to? There are no OBD1 compatible computers on a stock 914, much less OBD2. Unless you are running Motronic on your 914, or something like a Subaru or V-8 engine, there is nothing that runs OBD1 or 2.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 9 2019, 07:42 AM

OBD2 just add this light in your dash..


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Posted by: Not_A_Six Nov 9 2019, 10:11 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2058

Hmm...

I wonder if that would help my clearance issue running 205/55R16 tires on 5-lug 16-inch Fuchs.

Got a link?

Thanks.

Posted by: Literati914 Nov 9 2019, 10:15 AM

Headlight fluid ?

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 9 2019, 10:20 AM

It's Saturday night some place.

Posted by: wes Nov 9 2019, 11:07 AM

Right now 12:06 am Sunday in Thailand!

Posted by: Garland Nov 9 2019, 11:48 AM

Posted by: aharder Nov 9 2019, 12:18 PM

Posted by: porschetub Nov 9 2019, 12:33 PM

Sunday here .

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 9 2019, 01:18 PM

high noon PST


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Posted by: 914bub Nov 9 2019, 02:25 PM

Mark is right. Not a single 914 won't need these! Super reasonably priced as well.

Posted by: Coondog Nov 9 2019, 02:29 PM

My guess is some type of holder for water bottles or cups.

Now West Coast, Mountain or East Coast time zone ??

Posted by: sb914 Nov 9 2019, 02:40 PM

I’ll take two !

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 9 2019, 02:42 PM

Central time zone.

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 03:01 PM

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Posted by: 914bub Nov 9 2019, 03:14 PM

You'll want more....

Posted by: Garland Nov 9 2019, 03:52 PM

Mountain, at 9:14pm
Just a guess


And maybe (video link below) one of these:

https://youtu.be/DQV9pE2b-Xc








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Posted by: Chris H. Nov 9 2019, 03:53 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFxmAdyKcg

Posted by: Craigers17 Nov 9 2019, 04:11 PM

Is it an Element fire extinguisher and or said extinguisher mount/holder?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 9 2019, 04:26 PM

Slits Tool Kit...
Miss You Buddy..


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Posted by: Big Len Nov 9 2019, 04:56 PM

Printed 914 Rubber loggoed condums.

Posted by: jagalyn Nov 9 2019, 05:59 PM

My bet would be if this was George Hussey doing this there wouldn’t be 5 pages of guys playing along...

Posted by: 914bub Nov 9 2019, 06:10 PM

You're right, and these will be better than the ones George sells.....

Promised Mark I wouldn't spill the beans! Can't believe he told me yesterday, I'm usually the last to know....

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 9 2019, 06:57 PM

https://youtu.be/PfVR3P-eaFg

Posted by: preach Nov 9 2019, 07:01 PM

Very Nice!

Posted by: Garland Nov 9 2019, 07:09 PM

OK
Intermittent wipers?

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 9 2019, 07:27 PM

We completely redesigned the relays to be more dependable and last much longer that those that are currently on the market. Originally these were to be solid state. Two things changed that.

First, in actual testing (yes we really do that) we found the thermal gain unacceptable, and know that we couldn't in good conscious sell that product. Yes they worked, but we were not comfortable putting them on the market as they didn't test well.

Second, we came up with a better design that the engineering suggests will last at least 200,000 cycles.

We are in the process of determining the actual failure point. As you can see from the video

https://youtu.be/PfVR3P-eaFg

This will be running in the shop until failure.

There was another company that shal remain nameless that released relays into the market that had very high failure rates. My brother actually bought some and found 2 of the 5 he bought were bad righ out of the box.

Thant and initially they were cheap, but you saw the price points start creeping up to the point that they are in the $40 range.

We couldn't sit by and watch the 914 (and 911) community get screwed over buy poorly built over priced parts.That's why we made these.

So 1st off we are offering a 1 yr warranty


We may even extend this as we continue to test, but for now it's an industry leading warranty.

We have expended a lot of resources to get these right. I will note that they are slightly larger than the OEM ones. This was necessary as part of the improved design.
We did check the fitment and the clearance on the relay board and the headlight plastic covers is good.

Here's the deal-

Like always we are giving the World community the best possible pricing

]We are offering up a set of 5 for $60 Yes $12 each!

There will be a option to pick up an extra 2 are the same price if you should so choose.
If you want individuals $15 each (Less than 5)

This will be for a limited quantity we are only going to offer 100 "sets" at the GB price as it's below cost.

After these are gone they will be $15 til the end of the month. The regular price will be $28



Our testing so far is in excess of 43,000 cycles. I know we were at 42k when I left Friday morning.

Ask Cary about being stuck on the side of the road when his new fuel pump relay (not ours), left him stranded on the side of the road.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1608

So who's in?


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Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 9 2019, 07:28 PM

New relays?! Very nice!
Hey @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3573 - you in?

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 9 2019, 07:31 PM

Real world testing. Headlight motor cycled every 7 seconds.

Posted by: BPic Nov 9 2019, 07:32 PM

Count me in for 5+2. Perfect timing for me I was just going to buy some.

Thanks guys appreciate the work you do for our cars.

Posted by: pvollma Nov 9 2019, 07:36 PM

I'll take a set of 5 + 2

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 07:38 PM

Oh good! You did do the video...

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 9 2019, 07:39 PM

no need.... I might live another 10 yrs....have a ton of spares.....


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Posted by: bandjoey Nov 9 2019, 07:41 PM

Damn it all. Thought it was something useful, like a 10mm that never get's lost!




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Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 9 2019, 07:41 PM

You will see more on that later

Posted by: 914bub Nov 9 2019, 07:50 PM

So who's in?


I'm in for 5

Posted by: Jett Nov 9 2019, 07:51 PM

5+2 please

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 9 2019, 07:56 PM

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 9 2019, 08:04 PM

OT. 5yd penalty.

trying to sell used relays is pointless now. Into the trash.

In. 7.

Posted by: Minerva's 914 Nov 9 2019, 08:04 PM

I'm in for 5 + 2



+

Posted by: Matty900 Nov 9 2019, 08:14 PM

Damn it Mark! Feel free to pull out a calculator from time to time before you throw pricing out there. That doesn't cover overhead

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 9 2019, 08:23 PM

I'm in for a set; thanks for making this happen.

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 9 2019, 08:27 PM

I’m in for 2 for backups.

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 9 2019, 08:36 PM

In for a pair!!

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 08:38 PM

I’m in for none...

I don’t have motors

I have to get out and push them down, but a pull knob puts them up...


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Posted by: 914-300Hemi Nov 9 2019, 08:42 PM

I’m in for a 5

Posted by: Garland Nov 9 2019, 08:46 PM

I’m in set of 5

Posted by: bobboinski Nov 9 2019, 08:49 PM

In for 5

Posted by: aharder Nov 9 2019, 08:49 PM

Shouldn't that be"Damm it Dad"

And yes, hell yes..... I'm in for a set

Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 9 2019, 08:52 PM

Very interesting that you ended up making mechanical relay and not solid state. I suspect that the failure rate of the solid state are what people are experiencing with the voltage regulators

Posted by: wes Nov 9 2019, 09:01 PM

I’m in for a set of 5. Funny I’ve been putting off ordering one my headlight just quit. THANKS MARK AND GANG!

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 09:07 PM

No. Mark and Matt are brothers. Matt’s the hairy one.

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 09:08 PM

Precisely. Mark tells me he had early failures in the testing of the solid state ones.

Posted by: walterolin Nov 9 2019, 09:28 PM

Five plus two.

Thanks

Posted by: aharder Nov 9 2019, 09:38 PM

Thanks for straightening my ass out Rob

Posted by: Matty900 Nov 9 2019, 09:46 PM

These are multi purpose Relays. The most important use for these is for the fuel pump. I hear countless stories of people being stranded on the side of the road because of bad Relays.

Posted by: Not_A_Six Nov 9 2019, 09:50 PM

Put me down for 5, please.

Posted by: seanpaulmc Nov 9 2019, 10:03 PM

In for a set.
Thanks for making these.

Posted by: cuddy_k Nov 9 2019, 10:12 PM

In for a set of 5+2. Thanks for all you guys do!

Posted by: live free & drive Nov 9 2019, 10:17 PM

I'm in for a set of 5 - worth the build-up...

Posted by: Valy Nov 9 2019, 10:17 PM

5 please for me.

Posted by: Lg914 Nov 9 2019, 10:38 PM

Count me in

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 10:47 PM

I have no relay board Matty. My DME relay handles the fuel pump.

Posted by: Firstcar Nov 9 2019, 11:06 PM

In for a set of 5 please.

Posted by: Can-Am Nov 10 2019, 12:19 AM

A set of 5 plus 2 please. Thanks ....and also for the candy...lol

Posted by: jagalyn Nov 10 2019, 12:50 AM

Set of 5+2 please

Posted by: infraredcalvin Nov 10 2019, 12:54 AM

I’m in for 5+2 please

Thank you!

Posted by: djway Nov 10 2019, 01:11 AM

7 is heaven

Posted by: dt4 Nov 10 2019, 01:52 AM

5 please
shipped to the UK

Posted by: yellowporky Nov 10 2019, 01:54 AM

I would like 7 please

Posted by: EdwardBlume Nov 10 2019, 04:47 AM

I'm in for 5. Thx!

Posted by: Frank S Nov 10 2019, 05:43 AM

5+2 Please. Thanks!!

Posted by: Psw1811 Nov 10 2019, 06:41 AM

Chalk me down for a set ✅

Posted by: rbzymek Nov 10 2019, 07:25 AM

Five for me please. Thanks!

Posted by: rgolia Nov 10 2019, 07:29 AM

Count me in for a set

Posted by: tvdinnerbythepool Nov 10 2019, 07:50 AM

I'm in for 5

Posted by: 73-914 Nov 10 2019, 07:51 AM

I would like 2 sets of 5 please

Posted by: Coondog Nov 10 2019, 07:58 AM

5 for me

Posted by: MichaelB Nov 10 2019, 08:41 AM

I'm in for 7 as well.

Posted by: gereed75 Nov 10 2019, 08:49 AM

In for a set

Posted by: 914four Nov 10 2019, 09:14 AM

So who's in?

In for 5 + 2.

Posted by: twistedstang Nov 10 2019, 09:37 AM

In for 5 please

Posted by: Chi-town Nov 10 2019, 09:44 AM

Where do I find a realy in my car? I found the relays..

Posted by: Tbrown4x4 Nov 10 2019, 10:18 AM

7 please.

I just had a headlight relay fail. I cut it open, and it was full of water.

Posted by: soccerplyr Nov 10 2019, 10:32 AM

I'll take a set

Posted by: Jamie Nov 10 2019, 10:49 AM

And a set of 5 for me for backups. Should I just replace all the old relays with new, or wait for failure of originals?

Posted by: PanelBilly Nov 10 2019, 11:09 AM

7 for me

Thanks

Posted by: mmichalik Nov 10 2019, 11:14 AM

I'll take 5 + 2 as well
Thanks!

Posted by: morgan_harwell Nov 10 2019, 11:20 AM

set of 5+2 please.
Order placed & monies paid.
Thanks Mikey914

Posted by: porsche914gt Nov 10 2019, 11:26 AM

set of 5. thanks.

Posted by: SKL1 Nov 10 2019, 11:36 AM

3 sets for me...

Posted by: BPic Nov 10 2019, 12:11 PM

How soon will these ship?

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 10 2019, 12:32 PM

Nice!

In for two sets.

Thank you for doing this!

Posted by: second wind Nov 10 2019, 01:48 PM

I will take a set and order with my shift bushing GB this week before the 15th. Thank you very much.
gg

Posted by: jat914 Nov 10 2019, 02:21 PM

Please put me in for 5. Thanks!!!

Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 10 2019, 03:34 PM

5+2 for me please.

Posted by: enf2232 Nov 10 2019, 05:38 PM

5x2 if you haven't reached the 100. Christmas is coming.

Posted by: drem914 Nov 10 2019, 05:52 PM

I'm in for a 5+2 set.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 10 2019, 06:28 PM

I'd also take 5 if there are any left.

Posted by: jcd914 Nov 10 2019, 06:53 PM

I'm in for 5 + 2.

Jim

Posted by: DucRS Nov 10 2019, 07:01 PM

I’m new to this 914 thing. I’m guessing by the way everyone’s jumping all over these, I better jump in too. I’m assuming the originals are ?

Posted by: restore2seater Nov 10 2019, 07:13 PM

In for the 5 plus the 2 spares.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 10 2019, 07:55 PM

The originals were not bad, but getting near 50 and they are do fail, just a matter of time, however the OEM ones you could get 10 years on easily with daily use.

The ones that were remade by another company had a notoriously high failure rate and when I last checked they were still "re making them" Leaving the original purchasers high and dry without ANY warranty, I'm sure they will chime in now and say oh yes, we are improving the product and we will be "happy" to take care of you.
Now there is another choice. You notice they didn't recall and offer to make it right, only when called out.

That and price points went up once they thought they "owned the market"

We are committed to providing the highest quality product and we stand behind our product with actual testing.

So that's my vent, I'm sure I kicked a hornet's nest, but it's all true.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 10 2019, 08:00 PM

Yes but we have 59 folks that are interested on the total of 100 sets, so yeah, I may be giving away a few, but the reg "sale" price at $15 will be available til the end of the month.

I'll work on getting the listings together in the next day or so so we can open this up before we sell out all the 100 sets.

Thanks to all.
Look for PM's late Monday. These will ship out in about 10 days.

Posted by: worn Nov 10 2019, 08:42 PM

Two sets please

Posted by: lierofox Nov 10 2019, 08:44 PM

I'd like a set of 5

Posted by: 56kabrio Nov 10 2019, 09:11 PM

5 + 2 for me please.

Thanks

Mack

Posted by: jmalone Nov 10 2019, 09:36 PM

Mark, 5+2 for me Thank you so much!

Posted by: Gary Nov 11 2019, 04:55 AM

I'll take 5, thanks.

Posted by: bahnzai Nov 11 2019, 05:58 AM

Late to the party..., but I will take 2 sets of 5+2, if that is ok and available?
I have a couple of applications...
Please let us know how to pay, or if we need to do that at the website?
Thanks!

Posted by: GregAmy Nov 11 2019, 07:24 AM

I'll pay $5 each shipping for your removed 5+2 old relays.

Posted by: VoPo914 Nov 11 2019, 08:07 AM

I'll take 5, Thanks.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 11 2019, 09:09 AM

Better specify Stock ones

Posted by: Olympic 914 Nov 11 2019, 09:20 AM

Count me in for 5

Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 11 2019, 09:33 AM

I'll take a set plus 2. Thanks!

Posted by: mharmon Nov 11 2019, 09:38 AM

I'll take 7 please

Posted by: eric9144 Nov 11 2019, 09:57 AM

In for a set of 5

Posted by: jesse7flying Nov 11 2019, 12:01 PM

5+2 for me please. Thx
Jesse

Posted by: CoronaMike Nov 11 2019, 12:06 PM

I'll take 5.

Posted by: stevend914 Nov 11 2019, 12:31 PM

Two sets please, thanks

Posted by: GregAmy Nov 11 2019, 12:37 PM

I figure if I spend $30-35 for ~50 relays, there will be enough good ones in there for the life of my car...

Looks like 150 have been claimed of the 100 GB relays being sold!

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 11 2019, 01:49 PM

not quite, but we are down to 19 sets I'd better finish up the link soon.

Posted by: Rand Nov 11 2019, 04:26 PM

Nope. I need affordable light bumpers that are less expensive than the current offerings.

And this was the most blatant abuse of marketing in the garage I've ever seen. I love Mark and 914rubber and all they do. But if everyone marketed like this in the garage it would destroy the place. There's another forum for that. A notice here in the garage, linking to a vendor forum thread would be great.

Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 11 2019, 05:16 PM

5 +2

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 11 2019, 05:17 PM

Order submitted....

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 11 2019, 05:19 PM

I bought into this group buy, am thankful for this new product, and similarly appreciate Mark & the whole team at 914rubber, but…

…but there has been an increasing trend to use 914world's Garage as a marketing tool for sales when there's a member-vendor forum—and the "psssst, big news but we won't tell you what it is" followed by more or less selling out the first run (of an admittedly cool product!) doesn't "feel" quite right if I step back from it. Another vendor actually started a thread with a title to the effect of "The Ultimate 914 sun visor" or some such, pitching an expensive product as the perfect visors for the best cars, but then wouldn't answer a simple question about the product's vinyl grain (which looks wrong...). Of course, what thread will come up in a Google search down the road, and possibly for someone who doesn't know any better?

While this isn't a problem for the vendors, it is a potential issue for 914world as well as the preservation of these cars...

Posted by: maf914 Nov 11 2019, 05:29 PM

Mark, I'm in for a set of 5 + 2. Thanks!

Posted by: gandalf_025 Nov 11 2019, 05:44 PM

I’m in for a set of 5 + 2
Thank you....

Posted by: fiacra Nov 11 2019, 05:49 PM

I'll take a set of five...

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 11 2019, 06:21 PM

PMs sent to all so far.
We just broke 50k +

https://youtu.be/QSR79RJ4nf8

I'm basically giving these away. It's something that I only do here. I do it not to just sell product, but to help the community. As you can see, the GBs that are worthy have legs, if it's just a sale, they tend to go away.

If it's a matter of revenue, I'm quite willing to donate a percentage to the upkeep of the site. I do enjoy making parts and will continue to do so, just like to offer up deals for those that need it.

I fully anticipate this thread will die out as soon as the 100 are sold.

PMs sent to all so far,

I'f I missed anyone PM me and I'll send the link

-Mark

Posted by: beech4rd Nov 11 2019, 06:47 PM

I’m in for 5, please.

Chris

Posted by: no1uno Nov 11 2019, 08:55 PM

In for 5

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 11 2019, 09:01 PM

Thanks for the PM, and thanks for such a level-headed and cool response.

I agree with your take, and would take to see GBs that create real value for the community to be discouraged. Just wish some other vendors followed your (overall) lead when it comes to their approach, and wonder how to maintain opportunities for discounted GBs without leaving the door open to the Garage to be turned into a marketplace for full-price ads from less scrupulous suppliers?

Best,

pete

Posted by: wes Nov 11 2019, 10:07 PM

Submitted and paid for my order. Thanks again!

Posted by: Mitox Nov 11 2019, 10:32 PM

I’ll take 5 + 2

Thanks

Posted by: Krieger Nov 12 2019, 12:05 AM

I'd like 5+2.

Posted by: porbmw Nov 12 2019, 01:11 AM

Hi Mark
5 plus 2 please
Thanks
Paul

Posted by: twistedstang Nov 12 2019, 05:26 AM

I'm amazed at the amount of bitchiness on the forums lately. If it was an inappropriate post, it would be three pages back by now.

Thanks for what you do guys! Without people like you, our hobby would be in a worse place.

Posted by: Niklas Nov 12 2019, 06:00 AM

I will take 3x5 pcs.

/ Niklas

Posted by: Amphicar770 Nov 12 2019, 07:55 AM

5+2 for me as well. Thanks.

Posted by: MM1 Nov 12 2019, 08:28 AM

Count me in for a set of 5 + 2, Mark -thanks!

Posted by: VoPo914 Nov 12 2019, 08:30 AM

Order submitted and paid. Thanks!

Posted by: Gatornapper Nov 12 2019, 08:37 AM

I'm in for 5 Mark - tried to order them from your site, only old $50 one came up......can you post a link to the item on your site please?

Thanks,

GN

Posted by: enikolayev Nov 12 2019, 08:42 AM

Would like a set of 5 as well.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 12 2019, 09:32 AM

PMs sent to all so far
91 sets spoken for WOW
Would have thought it would take longer but we are almost there!

So, at this point I'll let the 100th know who they are and we can do a back up list, as inevitably there will be a few that fall out.

Posted by: 11tenths Nov 12 2019, 09:50 AM

5 for me, please.

Goin like hotcakes!

Nice work guys.

Thanks- Harry

Posted by: Lucky9146 Nov 12 2019, 09:57 AM

One set please. I guess I am #93
Thanks!

Posted by: frostyf Nov 12 2019, 11:39 AM

Yes Please, in for a set of 5 if I'm in before they're gone?

Posted by: CHIZ 914 Nov 12 2019, 11:58 AM

Sounds like a good value and a quality part
can I get a set of 5 for $60.00?

Posted by: Grosbard Nov 12 2019, 02:22 PM

I'll take 5+2, please!

Posted by: Krieger Nov 12 2019, 08:30 PM

I'm also interested in purchasing that headlight motor in the video. It seems to be pretty solid!

Posted by: RenoRoger Nov 12 2019, 09:23 PM

Put me down for a set of 5, please.

Thanks, RenoRoger

Posted by: BuddyV Nov 12 2019, 10:26 PM

5+2 please

Thank you!

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 13 2019, 12:22 AM

99 committed !
One left !

You can sign up in order if you wish we typically see 3-4 per 100 drop out, so there will be a few sets, but we give everyone a week or so before we release them.

As far as the motor we hope to burn it out and have to replace it!

Posted by: jcd914 Nov 13 2019, 01:48 AM

I ordered my set of relays, thanks !!!!!

What is the amperage rating for these?
And for the red relays?

Thanks
Jim

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 13 2019, 10:26 AM

I know where you are going with this. We designed both to the red spec, only difference is color. Figured they can be swapped both ways. Better to over-engineer the product.

For those than want red for the fuel pump they will be available a little after the black as we are doing that run 1st.

Posted by: 914coop Nov 13 2019, 11:35 AM

I'll take a set, Thanks Mike

Posted by: jcd914 Nov 13 2019, 03:26 PM

Yes that is part of where I was going.
I am also planning some additional wiring and plan to add relays as part of that wiring.
I planned to use the common square 5 pin relays but if these new relays can carry the load I will likely use them.

And since red relays were on the order page I added one to my order yesterday, I guess I won't get it right away.

Thanks
Jim

Posted by: Maury4 Nov 13 2019, 04:20 PM

Count me in for a 5+2, please.
Rick Maury

Posted by: brownaar Nov 13 2019, 09:32 PM

5+2 for me if I'm not too late or someone doesn't pony up.
Aaron

Posted by: kwfast Nov 13 2019, 09:42 PM

5+2 for me if still available,
Ken

Posted by: dcecc1968 Nov 14 2019, 12:35 AM

I'll take a set of 5
-Don

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 14 2019, 10:16 AM

Going to start standby list at this point I'll give folks til the 22nd, them we can go to the stand by. It's not uncommon to have a few drop out, I do suspect it will not be too many.

I'll check back on the 22nd and let everyone know who is on standby. We will have a sale on them but it will not be as good as the GB we have here.

Posted by: second wind Nov 14 2019, 11:36 PM

Ok Mikey....(Mark).....I bought the GB shift package out of catastrophic need and my car has never shifted better so I understand the physics of having new shift bushings vs. no shift bushings (knuckle at firewall). Please explain to me why I bought the GB new relays besides your exceptional sales skills? I must have 20 or more original relays in the parts box but I just had to have the new ones you are making. Besides being put into a trance of first come first served, please explain slowly and in short words why these relays are superior to the originals. I am glad I am getting them but I don't really know why I am so happy. Please explain.....thank you very much.
All the best always and thank you,
gg

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 14 2019, 11:54 PM

You know, your post reminds me that this thread got me to thinking I need to build an "on the road" parts stash in the car like I used to have. Some extra relays and fuses, a clutch clevis, a clutch cable (goes nicely under the rear trunk carpet), a fan belt and the tools to change it, and maybe a few more items. Used to carry a lot of that stuff before I pulled the car apart for paint—and then converted it to a -6.

So Mikey's GB thread for these relays served as a good reminder of another kind…

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 15 2019, 04:01 PM

Yep yep!

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=296900&st=2000&gopid=2762360&#entry2762360

Posted by: FlacaProductions Nov 15 2019, 04:07 PM

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You know, your post reminds me that this thread got me to thinking I need to build an "on the road" parts stash in the car like I used to have.
So Mikey's GB thread for these relays served as a good reminder of another kind…
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This is EXACTLY why I bought a set - I'm putting together just the sort of kit you're talking about.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 15 2019, 06:14 PM

We have actually re engineered these ( not just tried to copy a factory part ). They should be at least as robust as the factory part.
That and we are actually testing our parts unlike some vendors.
That’s really the simplest answer.


The support of the community is what allows us to do what we do, so when we did the banner add we decided on the graphic of the car being supported by the members crowd surfing.

Posted by: second wind Nov 15 2019, 10:12 PM

Thank you for your reply Mark. After re-reading your initial description my questions were answered. You know us 914 guys love details and specs. Anyway, Is there really a difference between the fuel pump relay and the rest? Do tell? Thank you very much.
gg

Posted by: daveinseattle Nov 16 2019, 02:45 PM

I'll take a set of 5 as well...or go on the backup list...

thanks!

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 16 2019, 05:34 PM

Yes huger difference.....The Fuel pump relays are RED

No, only color as we engineered to the higher spec. Would have actually cost us more to make 2 flavors, and they should hold up much better under the lower load.

Posted by: trojanhorsepower Nov 16 2019, 08:25 PM

Is 5 a complete set? I see lots ordering 5, but don't actually know how many are needed.....

Posted by: second wind Nov 16 2019, 09:19 PM

Funny how my passenger side headlight did not go up this morning?? After driving a while the road vibration must have loosened it up and it started working again. Having new relays vs. 50 year old relays does make sense, eh? Glad I made the cut off.....
All the best always,
gg

Posted by: jcd914 Nov 17 2019, 12:14 AM

The OE 911 fuel pump relays were red and made to carry more current than the standard black relays.
I don't remember what year 911s got the red fuel pump relays, it may have been when they introduced the CIS fuel injection.
The stock 914 fuel pump relay was a standard black relay.

I don't recall the amperage rating for either the standard black relay or the higher rated red relay.

I also have some white relays that were in my 72 when I got it.
I don't recall seeing white relays before.

I was looking to get some red relays to carry extra load for some accessory circuits I plan to add.
Now that Mark says his new black relays are engineered to meet the higher load of the red relays I don't need the red ones. I'll probably get the red ones anyway and use the different to indicate the higher load circuits.

Jim

Posted by: targa72e Nov 19 2019, 07:42 PM

please add me to waiting list for 5.

thanks,

john

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 22 2019, 07:32 PM

Just broke 85,000 cycles today!
Still going strong


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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 22 2019, 08:15 PM

So awesome. Thank you for your work on this project. I don't need any right now, and may have a couple of extras, but I know I will never need these again.

Cheers to you and your team...

pete

Posted by: DRPHIL914 Nov 23 2019, 09:30 AM

Please put me in as a stand by just got back on world today after being gone for a week ,
Thanks!

Posted by: tyfighter123 Jan 15 2020, 02:36 AM

Can I still get in on these?

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 15 2020, 11:17 AM

The GB is over as we were basically giving these away. But we do have them on the site on sale til the 20th
Black
https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/black-5-pin-multi-purpose-electrical-relay

Red
https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/red-5-pin-multi-purpose-electrical-relay

By the way we just broke 230,000 cycles on the test bed. That's one of the reasons we can offer you a warranty. We actually test our products.

Old pic buy still going

By the way our goal was 200,000 cycles for these.




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Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 15 2020, 09:41 AM

..........guess I'm WAY late to this thread. Catching up on Stay-At-Home subscribed garage thread so I'm bit behind on this GBuy

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 15 2020, 01:27 PM

Yes the GB has come and gone but there is a discount code in the back of Pano

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 15 2020, 01:28 PM

And these test relay has yet to fail 2yr warranty in these


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Posted by: jd74914 Apr 15 2020, 02:03 PM

Just curious but are you doing endurance testing on more than one relay?

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 15 2020, 02:34 PM

We only have one test bed, We do QC each relay before it ships but we were thinking we could get it to fail at some point.

Posted by: jd74914 Apr 16 2020, 09:18 AM

It would be interesting to run a second or third up in cycles, just in case the one you picked to endurance test happens to be a best-of-the-best. (Not intending to criticize, I've had the "pleasure" of doing endurance testing and was always surprised to see the massive variance in some electronics.)

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 16 2020, 10:47 PM

We do plan to test more, but want to see how far it will go. We did build these to be durable, and this one was chosen at random not made specifically for testing. Anyone want to place bets on how long it will last?
There’s a thread worth posting.

Posted by: Mblizzard Apr 17 2020, 10:28 AM

Just replaced all of mine with these yesterday!. All very nice. ?kept the old ones of course but these are not likely to fail anytime soon!