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Posted by: Coondog Nov 7 2019, 05:37 PM

Went for a quick spin. Stopped to get gas. Then no gears. Stick shift feels like nothing is connected to it. Cables underneath car look tight. Any clues while I wait for a tow... mad.gif

Posted by: BeatNavy Nov 7 2019, 05:49 PM

Broken coupler bushing?

Sorry about it sad.gif Get a pic for the flatbed thread.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 7 2019, 06:15 PM

weld broke on tube to spline shaft

Posted by: GregAmy Nov 7 2019, 06:17 PM

"Cables"?

Posted by: Coondog Nov 7 2019, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 7 2019, 04:17 PM) *

"Cables"?



Yeah sorry my bad shift rod.

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Nov 7 2019, 06:20 PM

At least you're smart enough to have AAA when driving a classic. I talked to a guy last week whose 911 broke down, the tow home was $400.

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 7 2019, 06:34 PM

Have a helper move the shift lever back and forth while you watch. If the rear rod moves, check the rear set screw first.

Posted by: Coondog Nov 7 2019, 06:59 PM

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Yeah I know don’t tow backwards....
In the garage, time to self educate then look at it tomorrow.

Thanks

Posted by: GregAmy Nov 7 2019, 07:00 PM

QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 7 2019, 08:19 PM) *
Yeah sorry my bad shift rod.

Nope, fine. Just wanted to ensure we're not talking about an alternate drivetrain install situation.

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Nov 7 2019, 08:20 PM) *

At least you're smart enough to have AAA when driving a classic. I talked to a guy last week whose 911 broke down, the tow home was $400.

Hagerty insurance. Not only covers "agreed value" but also adds recovery.

Posted by: Steve Nov 7 2019, 07:03 PM

I was bit by the coupler bushings. They hide under that boot and crystallize after 40 plus years.
I'm surprised PMS didn't install his firewall bearing, special shift rod and bronze trans bushing.

Posted by: Coondog Nov 7 2019, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 7 2019, 05:03 PM) *

I was bit by the coupler bushings. They hide under that boot and crystallize after 40 plus years.
I'm surprised PMS didn't install his firewall bearing, special shift rod and bronze trans bushing.



I know they installed there shift rod, I need to look further into what other parts were replaced.

Posted by: Gatornapper Nov 7 2019, 07:33 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 7 2019, 08:03 PM) *

I was bit by the coupler bushings. They hide under that boot and crystallize after 40 plus years.
I'm surprised PMS didn't install his firewall bearing, special shift rod and bronze trans bushing.


"Bit"???? while my car is/was in incredible shape with an original 60k miles on it - IT HAD NO COUPLER BUSHINGS! I mean, not even debris left. 3rd to 4th was impossible.

Shifts great now - another 914 owner of a restored '72 (with new bushings) says he wishes his shifted like mine......

GN

Posted by: Steve Nov 7 2019, 09:09 PM

QUOTE(Gatornapper @ Nov 7 2019, 05:33 PM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 7 2019, 08:03 PM) *

I was bit by the coupler bushings. They hide under that boot and crystallize after 40 plus years.
I'm surprised PMS didn't install his firewall bearing, special shift rod and bronze trans bushing.


"Bit"???? while my car is/was in incredible shape with an original 60k miles on it - IT HAD NO COUPLER BUSHINGS! I mean, not even debris left. 3rd to 4th was impossible.

Shifts great now - another 914 owner of a restored '72 (with new bushings) says he wishes his shifted like mine......

GN

That’s exactly what happened to mine. I was at WCC 2009 at willow springs. I lost a couple of gears and instead of towing it home, I drove 2 hours back home and was down to one or two gears when I got home. Should have towed it home. I had AAA long distance tow too.

Posted by: Spoke Nov 7 2019, 09:19 PM

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Nov 7 2019, 07:20 PM) *

At least you're smart enough to have AAA when driving a classic. I talked to a guy last week whose 911 broke down, the tow home was $400.


I have that one beat. 2 years ago my 930 crapped out in Pittsburgh after the Historic Grand Prix car show. Had it towed back to Allentown. $1000. It was the only day it rained for the 3 weeks I was in the 'burgh with the car. I used a whole roll of packing tape closing up the vents and seals of the engine hood.

At issue was a split turbo hose and the green wire of death coming off of the distributor was shorting out.

Ironically the wrecker broke down on the PA Turnpike with....wait for it....a blown turbo hose. After sitting on the side of the Turnpike for 3 hours, his office mate showed up with a replacement hose and we made it back to my place. He knocked $100 off the bill for the breakdown.


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Posted by: Tdskip Nov 7 2019, 09:54 PM

What about the threaded pin that holds the coupler to the shift rod ?

Posted by: Coondog Nov 7 2019, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 7 2019, 07:54 PM) *

What about the threaded pin that holds the coupler to the shift rod ?




Thats my gut feeling, shifter feels like it’s not connected to anything.

Posted by: infraredcalvin Nov 8 2019, 12:17 AM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 7 2019, 05:00 PM) *

Hagerty insurance. Not only covers "agreed value" but also adds recovery.


That’s why I moved away from Hagerty, took over 4 hrs to get a tow when my 930 broke, gal asked me if I had AAA cause it would be quicker as Hagerty didn’t contract with as many sources as AAA. Finally got her home, raised my rates a few months later...

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 8 2019, 06:18 AM

Good to hear you got it home...bummer sad.gif
I have Hagery too; but, wasn't aware there is a towing provision; what are he limits for he tow ?

Posted by: maxwelj Nov 8 2019, 09:14 AM

there is a rolled pin in a lever at the back of the transmission, at least on my tail shifter. I sheared one and had that issue.

Posted by: Tdskip Nov 8 2019, 09:20 AM

QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Nov 8 2019, 01:17 AM) *

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 7 2019, 05:00 PM) *

Hagerty insurance. Not only covers "agreed value" but also adds recovery.


That’s why I moved away from Hagerty, took over 4 hrs to get a tow when my 930 broke, gal asked me if I had AAA cause it would be quicker as Hagerty didn’t contract with as many sources as AAA. Finally got her home, raised my rates a few months later...


I think of the Hagerty towing as a safety blanket rather than primary option.

Posted by: Tdskip Nov 8 2019, 09:21 AM

QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 7 2019, 11:33 PM) *

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 7 2019, 07:54 PM) *

What about the threaded pin that holds the coupler to the shift rod ?




Thats my gut feeling, shifter feels like it’s not connected to anything.


I’ve got $5 on that being the issue. Hope so, better than most other explanations.

Posted by: Steve Nov 8 2019, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 8 2019, 07:21 AM) *

QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 7 2019, 11:33 PM) *

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Nov 7 2019, 07:54 PM) *

What about the threaded pin that holds the coupler to the shift rod ?




Thats my gut feeling, shifter feels like it’s not connected to anything.


I’ve got $5 on that being the issue. Hope so, better than most other explanations.

That does sound like the problem, but that should never happen, unless someone used the same screw over again and didn’t use locktite.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 8 2019, 12:41 PM

I’d bet that’s it.
Mark

Posted by: Coondog Nov 8 2019, 04:21 PM

Rear cone screw was just setting in the plastic cover. COSTCO quick jack made it easy.
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Posted by: tygaboy Nov 8 2019, 04:43 PM

Hence the saying "you're screwed"...

Glad is was a minor thing.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Nov 8 2019, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Nov 7 2019, 10:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Nov 7 2019, 07:20 PM) *

At least you're smart enough to have AAA when driving a classic. I talked to a guy last week whose 911 broke down, the tow home was $400.


I have that one beat. 2 years ago my 930 crapped out in Pittsburgh after the Historic Grand Prix car show. Had it towed back to Allentown. $1000. It was the only day it rained for the 3 weeks I was in the 'burgh with the car. I used a whole roll of packing tape closing up the vents and seals of the engine hood.

At issue was a split turbo hose and the green wire of death coming off of the distributor was shorting out.

Ironically the wrecker broke down on the PA Turnpike with....wait for it....a blown turbo hose. After sitting on the side of the Turnpike for 3 hours, his office mate showed up with a replacement hose and we made it back to my place. He knocked $100 off the bill for the breakdown.


OK I’ll bite. Why Tape the whale tail vents?

Posted by: Tdskip Nov 9 2019, 08:44 AM

QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 8 2019, 05:21 PM) *

Rear cone screw was just setting in the plastic cover. COSTCO quick jack made it easy.
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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19195 - so you are back and driving?

Posted by: sb914 Nov 9 2019, 09:00 AM

Make sure you use a new cone screw or it will back out again.

Posted by: GregAmy Nov 9 2019, 09:58 AM

QUOTE(sb914 @ Nov 9 2019, 11:00 AM) *

Make sure you use a new cone screw or it will back out again.

Those are re-usable threads; just use Blue Loc-Tite on it. I clean the threads and use this on all the set screws and they won't back out.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-826034-Quickstix-Strength-Threadlockers/dp/B01B79EL3O

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Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2019, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 9 2019, 10:58 AM) *

QUOTE(sb914 @ Nov 9 2019, 11:00 AM) *

Make sure you use a new cone screw or it will back out again.

Those are re-usable threads; just use Blue Loc-Tite on it. I clean the threads and use this on all the set screws and they won't back out.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-826034-Quickstix-Strength-Threadlockers/dp/B01B79EL3O

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agree.gif they sell blue loctite everywhere. It’s all you need.
I think they had a small piece of nylon on the threads that served the same purpose.

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