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Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 9 2019, 06:05 PM

Does anyone know if 930 turbo Fuchs, 7" and 9", will fit under "standard" GT flares?

Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2019, 06:32 PM

9’s may or may not fit. Tires will make a difference. You want to check fit before you do bodywork and paint. The flares can be “adjusted” to fit.

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 9 2019, 06:40 PM

15x9 ET 3
16x9 ET 15 about .5 inch less outer lip from the 15x9

I hear the 15x9 will take some bodywork to make them fit, but they will. As for 16x9 I haven't heard one way or the other if it took extra work.

Posted by: Gmanscott55 Nov 9 2019, 07:41 PM

I am running 7 X 17 front and 9 X 17 rear. Tight on rear, but no rubbing issues. Running a 5 MM spacer on rear and 35 MM on front.

See Mike's comment above ...

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 9 2019, 07:44 PM

These are 16X7 and a custom built 16X8.5 (built from 4 16X6 Fuchs)

@Harvey Weidman


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Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 9 2019, 08:43 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 9 2019, 05:44 PM) *

These are 16X7 and a custom built 16X8.5 (built from 4 16X6 Fuchs)

@Harvey Weidman



Good input from everyone - helps a lot!

Posted by: Steve Nov 10 2019, 08:32 AM

I’m running 17x9 Fikse FM10 rims. 255 racing tires fit, but due to the curb rib on my pilot sports, I had to drop down to 245 so they wouldn’t rub.
They are 6mm offset. The flairs are AA

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 10 2019, 12:23 PM

first 3 pics 225/50 on 15x9
second 2 are 245/50 on 15x9 flairs reworked with lip rolled up. and green paint


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Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 10 2019, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 10 2019, 10:23 AM) *

first 3 pics 225/50 on 15x9
second 2 are 245/50 on 15x9 flairs reworked with lip rolled up. and green paint



Thanks Jeff

Posted by: John Nov 12 2019, 02:58 PM

What is a standard GT Flare?

Mine has original GT Flares (not reproduction) and it has used 9x16 ET15 wheels for the last 35 years or so.



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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 12 2019, 03:23 PM

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What is a standard GT Flare?

Mine has original GT Flares (not reproduction) and it has used 9x16 ET15 wheels for the last 35 years or so.



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The factory GT flare used a thinner gauge metal and the flange (down by the sidewall is not as much. Mine (Replica) had to be trimmed to fit those wheels.

Posted by: John Nov 12 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(John @ Nov 12 2019, 05:58 PM) *

What is a standard GT Flare?

Mine has original GT Flares (not reproduction) and it has used 9x16 ET15 wheels for the last 35 years or so.



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The factory GT flare used a thinner gauge metal and the flange (down by the sidewall is not as much. Mine (Replica) had to be trimmed to fit those wheels.


I run those with (3) 1/4" spacers in the rear. 930 Turbo front hubs with no spacers.

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Are the new flares that much narrower than the originals?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 12 2019, 03:53 PM

yours are installed perfectly,,, and your 16s fit the way they do because the section width is about 9.5 inches..where as my old big ass 245/50s are 10+ in. all planets are in alignment...there can be alot of install variables,,yours are spot on...l


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Posted by: IronHillRestorations Nov 12 2019, 06:15 PM

I did a conversion on a car that had 16x9's in the back, and the bodyman that put the flairs on did it with those wheels on, it required a little extra fitting

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 12 2019, 06:20 PM

Well my statement rings true..the only other person I know is eric shea,,he can barely run a 15x8....so it all depends on the install,,,Erics where cut off a factory car..
here is the full chart..


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Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 13 2019, 08:22 AM

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Well my statement rings true..the only other person I know is eric shea,,he can barely run a 15x8....so it all depends on the install,,,Erics where cut off a factory car..
here is the full chart..


Saving that chart in my technical files. Thanks.

Posted by: Garland Nov 13 2019, 09:03 AM

245/50-16 , 9” wheels on all 4 corners. See my build page

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Posted by: Garland Nov 13 2019, 09:10 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 9 2019, 07:32 PM) *

9’s may or may not fit. Tires will make a difference. You want to check fit before you do bodywork and paint. The flares can be “adjusted” to fit.


When I did mine, I did not have the wheels and tires till after I mounted the flares. Just made sure everything was fit equally, to maximum width.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 13 2019, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(Garland @ Nov 13 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 9 2019, 07:32 PM) *

9’s may or may not fit. Tires will make a difference. You want to check fit before you do bodywork and paint. The flares can be “adjusted” to fit.


When I did mine, I did not have the wheels and tires till after I mounted the flares. Just made sure everything was fit equally, to maximum width.


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Posted by: John Nov 13 2019, 12:25 PM

QUOTE(Garland @ Nov 13 2019, 07:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 9 2019, 07:32 PM) *

9’s may or may not fit. Tires will make a difference. You want to check fit before you do bodywork and paint. The flares can be “adjusted” to fit.


When I did mine, I did not have the wheels and tires till after I mounted the flares. Just made sure everything was fit equally, to maximum width.


Me too! When my flares were done, all we had were 7 & 8 x 15 wheels, but later figured out that 9x16 fit all 4 corners so it made it so much more simple. No problems except trimming some of the sheet metal in the front fenders to clear when turning the wheels. Used to run (2) 1/4" spacers on all 4 corners until swapped in a 930 complete front end and found out the hubs spaced the wheels out. Then we moved to (3) 1/4" spacers in the rears with 9x16 and no spacers in front with 9x16. I don't even think the lips are rolled, but they might be.

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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 13 2019, 12:29 PM

Here are the pictures I was looking for. As I said, the factory flares were a lighter gauge metal with less width on the flange. Mark had to trim mine so the tire didn’t develop any razor burn. Mark had a factory flared 6-GT in the shop that he was restoring to compare them to.


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Posted by: Garland Nov 13 2019, 01:17 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 13 2019, 11:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Garland @ Nov 13 2019, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 9 2019, 07:32 PM) *

9’s may or may not fit. Tires will make a difference. You want to check fit before you do bodywork and paint. The flares can be “adjusted” to fit.


When I did mine, I did not have the wheels and tires till after I mounted the flares. Just made sure everything was fit equally, to maximum width.


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Yep, I had to trim all 4 once I had the wheels. But only the top inside edge. The rest with spacers worked out. Minimum clearance inside and out, front just clearing the shock, rear 1/4” off the body.

Posted by: tailwind22 Nov 13 2019, 08:26 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 13 2019, 10:29 AM) *

Here are the pictures I was looking for. As I said, the factory flares were a lighter gauge metal with less width on the flange. Mark had to trim mine so the tire didn’t develop any razor burn. Mark had a factory flared 6-GT in the shop that he was restoring to compare them to.


Mark who?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 13 2019, 09:20 PM

plan ahead, or be ready to make em fit.. headbang.gif

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