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Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 12 2019, 10:12 AM
Not often a real GT with a pedigree comes up for sale, how much do you think it will go for?
1971 24 hours of Daytona class winner, 5th overall.
http://www.vintagemotorsport.com/2019/12/closer-look-1970-porsche-914-6-gt-offer-gooding-companys-scottsdale-auction/
https://apple.news/AuDdvnYGATcO6i2usJHQpMA
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Dec 12 2019, 10:16 AM
yup a reall factory made sonauto GT. The way six prices are going, I would guess a million
Not often a real GT with a pedigree comes up for sale, how much do you think it will go for?
1971 24 hours of Daytona class winner, 5th overall.
https://apple.news/AuDdvnYGATcO6i2usJHQpMA
Posted by: Manny Alban Dec 12 2019, 10:24 AM
I remember Garry Wigglesworth bringing that car down to our region's Chesapeake Challenge event and autocrossing it in the 80's. I don't think anyone really appreciated what it was back then. Any, yes, it would usually take FTD.
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 12 2019, 10:24 AM
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 12 2019, 12:28 PM
when Garry got it , it had had an engine fire....used up race car...sure is neat that it survived the 80s90s
the rest of the story
http://p914-6info.net/PDFs/Wigglesworth%20914-6%20GT%20Pano%20June%201991.pdf
"I have a914," Huffman offered.
"Me, too," Wigglesworth replied.
"Mine's a six."
"Mine, too."
"Mine's a GT."
Ding, ding, dizg. Wigglesworth loaded up his hvo
boys and headed dou:r to Alexandria, Virginia, to
photograph the car for his restoration project. He
found the GT untouched since a fire gutted it at a
Summit Point track eyent a I'ear and a half before.
"It still had fire extinguisher fluid on it," Wigglesrvorth recalls. "On the way home it occurred to
me that may'be I should just try to buy this car."
Posted by: johnhora Dec 12 2019, 12:52 PM
Thanks for posting Mark....nice piece of history.
I see the engine bay is white....does anyone know if most of the GTs were built from white 914 and then painted the livery color later
check out the sold 914s on the goodingco.com site
Posted by: 914andy Dec 12 2019, 01:01 PM
Great little car. I to remember when Gary Wigglesworth and son would show up at events. They drove it like it was meant to be driven. Gary was a fierce competitor back in the day.He was present for many years in SCCA solo world. After he passed I lost track of the car. I do remember he was quite pissed that I took FTD from him many years ago at Parade.
Andy
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 12 2019, 01:38 PM
Jacques Duval is still alive, his son is a member here, and John Tripper @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=6599 tried to get him to the 914 50th at Mont Tremblant this year but it didn't work out.
He was a French Canadian motorsports and auto announcer for years.
He also owned a 356B super90, 904, 906 and a 911TR back in the day, I bet in hindsight he wished he had of hung onto those cars.
Posted by: eric9144 Dec 12 2019, 02:34 PM
It recently showed up at the South OC Cars and Coffee event, was wondering if it was a clone, but based off the pictures in the link you guys put up, this appears to be the real deal, note the wrinkle on the DS sail vinyl:
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 12 2019, 03:04 PM
"Tom Shaughnessy Yes. I own 1017. Great factory 914/6GT Condition. History ...."
another thought is will this get bought and restored ?? its a bit as raced ...
Posted by: Larmo63 Dec 13 2019, 12:41 AM
I think the car was at Pete Stout's "Rare Shades" event recently?
Posted by: maf914 Dec 13 2019, 07:26 AM
Here are some photos from the 2013 Daytona HSR event.
Is this the same car?
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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 13 2019, 07:47 AM
Replica built by Bob Bailey and friends... Bob was a codriver at Daytona. Co-drivers were Bob Bailey and George Nicholas.
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Posted by: maf914 Dec 13 2019, 08:16 AM
Sixnotfour, Thanks for the response. Interesting. It is a good looking car.
Posted by: Chi-town Dec 13 2019, 12:40 PM
I bet it won't clear $500k
Posted by: mepstein Dec 13 2019, 06:19 PM
I bet it won't clear $500k
Posted by: 914forme Dec 14 2019, 03:31 PM
Nice to see it back out and running around.
Gary and Gary Jr., always friendly and willing to talk to a young punk who knew enough about 914s to be dangerous. Loved watching that car run every chance I got to see it.
To hit a mill, a couple of special people will need to want this car.
Not seeing anyone take out a mortgage to buy it now.
Posted by: lalee914 Dec 17 2019, 02:39 PM
Here are a few photos of this car when it ran at the Vintage race at Watkins Glen in 1999.
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Posted by: lalee914 Dec 17 2019, 02:39 PM
and another one
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Posted by: lalee914 Dec 17 2019, 02:40 PM
on track action
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Posted by: lalee914 Dec 17 2019, 02:40 PM
Turn 2 at Watkins...
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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 17 2019, 03:07 PM
I think the car was at Pete Stout's "Rare Shades" event recently?
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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 7 2020, 10:13 AM
countdown 10 days
https://www.loveforporsche.com/preview-to-the-gooding-scottsdale-auction-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1D6jiIFhUEYD79XGSIBORSnZUbHCsQjcNMdYikcszgRR4A5O58IxJHhHs
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Posted by: Minerva's 914 Jan 7 2020, 10:43 AM
countdown 10
https://www.loveforporsche.com/preview-to-the-gooding-scottsdale-auction-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1D6jiIFhUEYD79XGSIBORSnZUbHCsQjcNMdYikcszgRR4A5O58IxJHhHs
Hmm, could it be the first million dollar 914.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 7 2020, 10:48 AM
no brutus the 916 sold for 1million 78 thousand in february
countdown 10
https://www.loveforporsche.com/preview-to-the-gooding-scottsdale-auction-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1D6jiIFhUEYD79XGSIBORSnZUbHCsQjcNMdYikcszgRR4A5O58IxJHhHs
Hmm, could it be the first million dollar 914.
Posted by: raynekat Jan 7 2020, 06:46 PM
I bet it won't clear $500k
I don't agree....this one will be big.
Posted by: Minerva's 914 Jan 7 2020, 07:06 PM
no brutus the 916 sold for 1million 78 thousand in february
countdown 10
https://www.loveforporsche.com/preview-to-the-gooding-scottsdale-auction-2020/?fbclid=IwAR1D6jiIFhUEYD79XGSIBORSnZUbHCsQjcNMdYikcszgRR4A5O58IxJHhHs
Hmm, could it be the first million dollar 914.
Awww but that was a 916, technically a different animal. A 914-6 is a 914, a 916 while based on the 914 platform was not a 914 so it was the first million dollar 916, this could be the first million dollar 914.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Jan 7 2020, 07:18 PM
Awww but that was a 916, technically a different animal. A 914-6 is a 914, a 916 while based on the 914 platform was not a 914 so it was the first million dollar 916, this could be the first million dollar 914.
And I am pretty sure at least one 914-6 GT has privately traded north of $1,000,000. It wasn't many years ago that I never thought I'd see the day, but RS 2.7 street car prices and various early race car prices eventually got me to rethinking that—as have prices for top "regular" 914-6s.
Cool thing about 914s is there are still four-figure project cars out there, and these cars are simple enough mechanically to be
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 9 2020, 06:03 AM
http://schroeder-classics.com/
Original 914/6 GT
VIN : 914 043 0032
Modified to GT in the factory customer sports department / Repair works in Zuffenhausen.
According to the official GT-list this Chassis-No. is the first of 27 factory built GT's. Well documented race and car history with plenty of photographs. The car is absolutely rust free, as it had been used until 1973 for racing only. The current owner (since 1980) has only driven it in summer. The body is 100% in the condition as built in 1970 by Karmann and Porsche.
The car was completely stripped in 1980 for condition checking, painted and re-assembled with all original parts. No re-painting since then.
The car runs perfect and has no flaws.
Plenty of race parts and accessories: 24 sets of transmission gears in original wood box, 4 sway bars with different diameters, set of Bilstein shocks, 2nd set of Fuchs wheels 8 and 9 ”× 15”
Price: € 490,000.00
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Posted by: carr914 Jan 9 2020, 06:11 AM
Here are some photos from the 2013 Daytona HSR event.
Is this the same car?
No, a Replica. There a few. My old RaceCar was turned into one too
Posted by: carr914 Jan 10 2020, 06:00 AM
Posted by: carr914 Jan 10 2020, 06:02 AM
Posted by: Rav914 Jan 10 2020, 01:14 PM
Even the replicas look good. The paint job and dissimilar wheels balance the whole car. That's an art car more than any other 914 variant I've seen.
Posted by: nein14 Jan 10 2020, 08:20 PM
When Gary was alive he brought the car to the Hershey Porsche Swap Meet every year also Steve Limbert from Air Cool Racing who owns the Green Max Moritz GT also brought his and still does every year
So cool to see both GT’s at the swap meet
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 11 2020, 04:19 PM
Awww but that was a 916, technically a different animal. A 914-6 is a 914, a 916 while based on the 914 platform was not a 914 so it was the first million dollar 916, this could be the first million dollar 914.
And I am pretty sure at least one 914-6 GT has privately traded north of $1,000,000. It wasn't many years ago that I never thought I'd see the day, but RS 2.7 street car prices and various early race car prices eventually got me to rethinking that—as have prices for top "regular" 914-6s.
Cool thing about 914s is there are still four-figure project cars out there, and these cars are simple enough mechanically to be
All sorts of 6 and 7 figure cars that are always in buy-sell Circles that are insulated from the public eye. It's usually when a Barrett, Russo, Mecum, Gooding auction broadcasts into our media streams when we catch a glimpse of the "Action". I still think that the guy who discovered the other Bullit car in a Baja California auto salvage yard found one the holy grails of Mustangs.
We might see the wealthiest Porsche collector nab the Daytona 24hr gt for $1.750M with all hammer fees in
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 10:36 AM
I need to go down and check it out this weekend!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 15 2020, 10:51 AM
I need to go down and check it out this weekend!
look at these pics and report back....been along time..
I am curious if anything has changed...It Is a race car..
https://pbase.com/9146gt/9146gt_factory_race_cars_sn9140431017_daytona_lowes
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 11:28 AM
Viewing is open tonight and will stop by on my way home from work. I will take some pics, but my camera lens on my phone is cracked so they won't be so gud.
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 08:25 PM
I went and checked it out. Here are the pics.
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Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 08:37 PM
A few more
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Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 08:41 PM
This was fun crawling around the car. I wasn't going to open up the decklids and doors and all that, but there was someone there I was talking with and he was opening it all up - so I snapped as many pics as I could.
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Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 08:42 PM
Last ones
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Posted by: 914forme Jan 15 2020, 09:35 PM
Thanks Travis, great pictures brings back some great memories.
But crap, that 73-74 Signal Orange Ghia
Posted by: mepstein Jan 15 2020, 09:40 PM
Thanks Travis, great pictures brings back some great memories.
But crap, that 73-74 Signal Orange Ghia
Looks a lot like my wife's car when we first met.
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 15 2020, 09:41 PM
I only had 45 minutes to take pics. There was a few other cars that I wanted to check out but spent all my time with this one. My admission pass is good through Sunday so I will probably go back and poke around some more. Only 150 cars there.
Posted by: SKL1 Jan 15 2020, 09:59 PM
Going to Gooding and RM tomorrow. Cars at Bonhams were actually pretty disappointing. Some really crappy 914's at B-J.
That 914-6 was at the Rare Shades event in September in LA- lot of interesting 914's there in celebration of 9/14... Jeff Qwart had his nice 914-6 there as well.
Posted by: GTSandberg Jan 17 2020, 09:04 AM
I only had 45 minutes to take pics. There was a few other cars that I wanted to check out but spent all my time with this one. My admission pass is good through Sunday so I will probably go back and poke around some more. Only 150 cars there.
Thank you for for the pictures! Some details I have been looking for close ups for a long time.
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 17 2020, 09:55 AM
The engine shroud is interesting, the glass is roven, not uni-directional glass mat and it doesn't look as yellow as the aftermarket shrouds, the one pic it looks clear or gray resin.
That dizzy if OE is worth $10K alone, but it has a black cap so it could be aftermarket.
The intake manifolds look like they are 3 pieces.
Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 17 2020, 10:11 AM
Look like real 906 intake manifolds....soooo many cool parts on that car and it's period patina etc will make that price high to a collector.
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 17 2020, 10:59 AM
The engine shroud is interesting, the glass is roven, not uni-directional glass mat and it doesn't look as yellow as the aftermarket shrouds, the one pic it looks clear or gray resin.
That dizzy if OE is worth $10K alone, but it has a black cap so it could be aftermarket.
The intake manifolds look like they are 3 pieces.
Yes grey resin, so it is not a factory fiberglass part
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2020, 04:09 PM
Great pics Travis,,,just an old race ar that autocrossed the crap out of untill.. the Daytona aniversery.. wiper blades are crap plastic,,,Had an engine fire before Gary got it.,,,,Cant wait for the Auction
..Rumor has it Wills may place a Bid or 2..... I would if it starts low enough 
Travis got some flair transition pics..
Yes.they are Tall...I just sold a pair to Stazak..
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Posted by: poorsche914 Jan 17 2020, 05:53 PM
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2020/01/17/1970-porsche-914-6-gt-sells-for-995k, the best-ever auction result for a 914
Posted by: Chi-town Jan 17 2020, 07:13 PM
So he got $796k after fees.
So much for 1-1.3 million 
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 17 2020, 07:27 PM
Travis got some flair transition pics..
I sure did
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 17 2020, 07:44 PM
So he got $796k after fees.
So much for 1-1.3 million
Money for nothin'
And your chicks for free
....makes BaT fees look better and better !
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2020, 08:18 PM
So he got $796k after fees.
So much for 1-1.3 million
Buyer pays fees
Posted by: EdwardBlume Jan 17 2020, 08:30 PM
Mmmmm.
I'll guess about $850K then. 
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 17 2020, 08:32 PM
Expanded metal engine grill (one piece) rather than pierced as on our cars.
Silver inside roll bar may be result of quickie fire repair.
Racemark wheel instead of more usual Prototipo.
Originally a Light Ivory car. The finest color. Factory preferred.
906 intakes. Mmmmmm
Still has original (blue stripe ?) hoses to front oil cooler
Abbreviated front hood latch with just the safety, no pull type hood release..
Nice detail of hood pin corner pieces.
No latch at all or pins on rear lid !
Great pictures.
Thank you, Travis
Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 17 2020, 09:30 PM
Expanded metal engine grill (one piece) rather than pierced as on our cars.
Silver inside roll bar may be result of quickie fire repair.
Racemark wheel instead of more usual Prototipo.
Originally a Light Ivory car. The finest color.
Factory preferred. 906 intakes. Mmmmmm
Still has original (blue stripe ?) hoses to front oil cooler
Abbreviated front hood latch with just the safety, no pull type hood release..
Nice detail of hood pin corner pieces.
No latch at all or pins on rear lid !
Great pictures.
Thank you, Travis
Rear decklid had the rubber hold downs. And yes the front trunk had no pull release. Undo the pins and lift the hood, unlatch the catch.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2020, 09:39 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5176
The OG steering wheel was sold here ...by his son...
the rear decklid has an OG PN, sticker..mine does also...replaced ..BItD back in the day....Or ???
mine has one also...forsale130k
not correct
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2020, 10:00 PM
crankcase vent tank... Incorrect..
Wigglesworth didn't care, it was his War Horse.....until..RIP Gary
he did care..
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 18 2020, 05:02 AM
now,,,,who bought it ???
SOLD! $900,000 ($1,067,138 TOTAL)
1970 Porsche 914/6 GT
Chassis: 914 043 1017
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Posted by: dflesburg Jan 18 2020, 06:12 AM
That is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously someone has so much money that $1 million dollars is nothing.
Its good to be the king.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 18 2020, 07:03 AM
That is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously someone has so much money that $1 million dollars is nothing.
Its good to be the king.
A rising tide raises all boats.
Posted by: PlantMan Jan 18 2020, 09:10 AM
My boys rolled up on this car out at Holy Jim’s Canyon a month or so ago. I did not think anything about initially but my boys are always excited to see a 914 out and about.
I did not think it was a real GT either. Shows how much I know!
They were obviously shooting the images seen in the spread.
Very cool to see!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 18 2020, 02:33 PM
Expanded metal engine grill (one piece) rather than pierced as on our cars.
Silver inside roll bar may be result of quickie fire repair.
Racemark wheel instead of more usual Prototipo.
Originally a Light Ivory car. The finest color.
Factory preferred. 906 intakes. Mmmmmm
Still has original (blue stripe ?) hoses to front oil cooler
Abbreviated front hood latch with just the safety, no pull type hood release..
Nice detail of hood pin corner pieces.
No latch at all or pins on rear lid !
Great pictures.
Thank you, Travis
the Real Wheel
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=289916&hl=
This is the steering wheel that was installed in the car that won the 1971 24hr of Daytona back in 1971, my father removed the wheel after the end of the season and kept it all these years.
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Posted by: bandjoey Jan 18 2020, 06:25 PM
$200,000 for the wheel then. call the buyer up...
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 20 2020, 07:27 AM
Mmmmm
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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 20 2020, 08:15 AM
Mmmmm
Rory is that 370mm ??
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 20 2020, 08:32 AM
Mmmmm
Rory is that 370mm ??
I'll measure today.
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 20 2020, 09:40 AM
This thread is a good read for more on Jacques Duval the original owner.
I thought this is a good bookend for this thread.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=172644&st=0
Posted by: Chi-town Jan 20 2020, 09:49 AM
A rising tide raises all boats.
False optimism and broken dreams always seem to follow statements like that.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 20 2020, 12:56 PM
Mmmmm
Rory is that 370mm ??
Actually looks closer to 360.....such a thing ?
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 20 2020, 12:59 PM
A rising tide raises all boats.
False optimism and broken dreams always seem to follow statements like that.
It applies to boats that can actually float.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 20 2020, 01:29 PM
considering that brutus sold for 1million 78 with fees, and an m471 sold for 450. The price of a factory built GT with race history selling for a million is not so bad.
Just gives all of us an idea where rare 914s are headed
That is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously someone has so much money that $1 million dollars is nothing.
Its good to be the king.
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