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Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 04:43 AM

Hi,
Does anybody have a good picture (or wiring diagram) of the main 14-pin harness connector with the cap removed (the one that is connected to the main relay board).
I have a brown-white (maybe brown-gray) wire arriving at this connector and have no clue where it plugs in. Even worse...this wire is not referenced in Art Zaft 914-6 wiring diagram.
Thanks for any help.
Philippe
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Posted by: Rleog Dec 22 2019, 06:01 AM

I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.

Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.

Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 07:52 AM

Both connectors at the 6 relay board are 14 pin.
The one going to the engine harness does not have a wire like your
photo. Maybe a Euro feature ?
I'll try to access the connector going into the relay board.


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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 22 2019, 08:40 AM

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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 22 2019, 09:01 AM

al kosmal added notes


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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 09:25 AM

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 09:29 AM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Dec 22 2019, 10:01 AM) *

al kosmal added notes


Ahhhhh.
Thank you for the update.
That black/blue wire in my photo had me worried

Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 05:52 AM) *

Both connectors at the 6 relay board are 14 pin.
The one going to the engine harness does not have a wire like your
photo. Maybe a Euro feature ?
I'll try to access the connector going into the relay board.


This is right. I meant the main harness connector and not the engine connector (both having 14 pins).

Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:29 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?

Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:36 AM

So far I come to the following pin assignment (looking at the backside of the connector):
1 Yellow
2. Blue
3. Red
4. Green
5. Yellow/Red
6. Green/Black
7. Green
8. Green/Red
9. Not assigned?
10. Gray/Brown
11. Black/Red
12. Gray/Brown
13. Brown
14. Black/Purple

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 12:01 PM

QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?


Appears to be brown with white tracer

Posted by: Luke M Dec 22 2019, 01:00 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM) *

QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?


Appears to be brown with white tracer



I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer go to pin #9.


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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 02:17 PM

Wow.
Note to self;
schedule thorough harness cleaning

Posted by: toolguy Dec 22 2019, 03:29 PM

As i remember, there are a couple [2] of wiring color code errors on the 914-6 relay board in the Art Zaft diagram

Posted by: Philippe Dec 23 2019, 02:47 AM

QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 22 2019, 11:00 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM) *

QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?


Appears to be brown with white tracer



I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer goes to pin #9.


Thanks a lot for the nice pics. I have the answer to my question!
Even if the tracer is different, the basic brown/white colour of pin 9 remains the same.
What still bothers me is the fact that this brown/white wire is not documented.
BTW Kroon did an excellent job. The welding work at the connector is well done.
Thanks to you all for the support.
Philippe





Posted by: altitude411 Dec 23 2019, 08:07 PM

I have wire harness envy... shades.gif

Posted by: gerakroo Mar 20 2020, 03:27 AM

QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 23 2019, 09:47 AM) *

QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 22 2019, 11:00 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM) *

QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM) *

Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector


Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?


Appears to be brown with white tracer



I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer goes to pin #9.


Thanks a lot for the nice pics. I have the answer to my question!
Even if the tracer is different, the basic brown/white colour of pin 9 remains the same.
What still bothers me is the fact that this brown/white wire is not documented.
BTW Kroon did an excellent job. The welding work at the connector is well done.
Thanks to you all for the support.
Philippe



Thank you !

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 20 2020, 07:54 AM

Well a year and three months later (almost to the day) i believe I have the answer.
It is the wire for the switch incorporated in the shift knob of
Sportomatic cars.
The white car harness is re-wrapped. The yellow is untouched.


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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 20 2020, 09:00 AM

I agree, there is a factory six factory drawn wiring diagram out there, we have enlarged copies of it


QUOTE(Rleog @ Dec 22 2019, 05:01 AM) *

I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.

Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.

Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.


Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 20 2020, 09:56 AM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Mar 20 2020, 11:00 AM) *

I agree, there is a factory six factory drawn wiring diagram out there, we have enlarged copies of it


QUOTE(Rleog @ Dec 22 2019, 05:01 AM) *

I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.

Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.

Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.



....what is it that you agree with ?


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