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Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 04:43 AM
Hi,
Does anybody have a good picture (or wiring diagram) of the main 14-pin harness connector with the cap removed (the one that is connected to the main relay board).
I have a brown-white (maybe brown-gray) wire arriving at this connector and have no clue where it plugs in. Even worse...this wire is not referenced in Art Zaft 914-6 wiring diagram.
Thanks for any help.
Philippe
Posted by: Rleog Dec 22 2019, 06:01 AM
I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.
Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.
Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 07:52 AM
Both connectors at the 6 relay board are 14 pin.
The one going to the engine harness does not have a wire like your
photo. Maybe a Euro feature ?
I'll try to access the connector going into the relay board.
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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 22 2019, 08:40 AM
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 22 2019, 09:01 AM
al kosmal added notes
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 09:25 AM
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 09:29 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Dec 22 2019, 10:01 AM)
al kosmal added notes
Ahhhhh.
Thank you for the update.
That black/blue wire in my photo had me worried
Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:19 AM
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 05:52 AM)
Both connectors at the 6 relay board are 14 pin.
The one going to the engine harness does not have a wire like your
photo. Maybe a Euro feature ?
I'll try to access the connector going into the relay board.
This is right. I meant the main harness connector and not the engine connector (both having 14 pins).
Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM)
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?
Posted by: Philippe Dec 22 2019, 10:36 AM
So far I come to the following pin assignment (looking at the backside of the connector):
1 Yellow
2. Blue
3. Red
4. Green
5. Yellow/Red
6. Green/Black
7. Green
8. Green/Red
9. Not assigned?
10. Gray/Brown
11. Black/Red
12. Gray/Brown
13. Brown
14. Black/Purple
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 12:01 PM
QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM)
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?
Appears to be brown with white tracer
Posted by: Luke M Dec 22 2019, 01:00 PM
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM)
QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM)
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?
Appears to be brown with white tracer
I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer go to pin #9.
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 22 2019, 02:17 PM
Wow.
Note to self;
schedule thorough harness cleaning
Posted by: toolguy Dec 22 2019, 03:29 PM
As i remember, there are a couple [2] of wiring color code errors on the 914-6 relay board in the Art Zaft diagram
Posted by: Philippe Dec 23 2019, 02:47 AM
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 22 2019, 11:00 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM)
QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM)
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?
Appears to be brown with white tracer
I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer goes to pin #9.
Thanks a lot for the nice pics. I have the answer to my question!
Even if the tracer is different, the basic brown/white colour of pin 9 remains the same.
What still bothers me is the fact that this brown/white wire is not documented.
BTW Kroon did an excellent job. The welding work at the connector is well done.
Thanks to you all for the support.
Philippe
Posted by: altitude411 Dec 23 2019, 08:07 PM
I have wire harness envy...
Posted by: gerakroo Mar 20 2020, 03:27 AM
QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 23 2019, 09:47 AM)
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 22 2019, 11:00 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 11:01 AM)
QUOTE(Philippe @ Dec 22 2019, 11:29 AM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Dec 22 2019, 07:25 AM)
Chassis into the relay board
don't see a wire like yours in either connector
Nice! Thank you. What colour do you have on pin 9 (starting from the top, left side, 5th pin)?
Appears to be brown with white tracer
I just checked my factory 6 and my new Kroon wire harnesses.
Both brown with a white tracer goes to pin #9.
Thanks a lot for the nice pics. I have the answer to my question!
Even if the tracer is different, the basic brown/white colour of pin 9 remains the same.
What still bothers me is the fact that this brown/white wire is not documented.
BTW Kroon did an excellent job. The welding work at the connector is well done.
Thanks to you all for the support.
Philippe
Thank you !
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 20 2020, 07:54 AM
Well a year and three months later (almost to the day) i believe I have the answer.
It is the wire for the switch incorporated in the shift knob of
Sportomatic cars.
The white car harness is re-wrapped. The yellow is untouched.
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 20 2020, 09:00 AM
I agree, there is a factory six factory drawn wiring diagram out there, we have enlarged copies of it
QUOTE(Rleog @ Dec 22 2019, 05:01 AM)
I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.
Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.
Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 20 2020, 09:56 AM
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Mar 20 2020, 11:00 AM)
I agree, there is a factory six factory drawn wiring diagram out there, we have enlarged copies of it
QUOTE(Rleog @ Dec 22 2019, 05:01 AM)
I don’t intend to confuse here, but this might help. I have a 914-4 wiring diagram that shows a grey/brown wire that runs between the back up lights and T14 terminal 4.
Caution: 914-4 and 914-6 may be different.
Check your back up lights and see if they have a grey/brown lead wire.
....what is it that you agree with ?
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