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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 24 2020, 10:25 AM
We have all discussed radios, but thought since I was taking some pics for a customer that I would post. The original blaupunkt frankfurt (writing only about frankfurt now) ordered as an option from the factory (a very rare occurrence) or from the dealer had two different designs over the 70-76 run: 70-12/73 and 1/74-76 (do not get me wrong, the dealer installed later on the earlier and vice versa) but BASICALLY these were the cut offs. The difference was the face and surround. Early had a chrome surround with rounded edges and late had a black surround with square edges. The later looked at the time more modern and less reflective for safety standards.
As you can see two types are displayed along with both the usa and the european faces. The am fm bands are very slightly different but the european will work in the usa. HOWEVER the european face is not correct for any usa car, so if looking for one, if you can get the usa face your 914 would be more correct
Posted by: gms Jan 24 2020, 10:39 AM
Probably want to get @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=13069 in on this
Posted by: gms Jan 24 2020, 10:48 AM
here is a European Köln
Posted by: brcacti Jan 24 2020, 11:25 AM
GREAT to see the original type radios for these cares. I am SO HAPPY with my old radio I put in recently
Posted by: johnhora Jan 24 2020, 01:11 PM
Nice examples!
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 24 2020, 01:58 PM
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Posted by: burton73 Jan 24 2020, 02:12 PM
Waiting for chrome surround black face to match the vent panel.
Bob B 
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 24 2020, 03:35 PM
Waiting for chrome surround black face to match the vent panel.
Bob B
Your dash is killer
! May I ask where you ordered your chrome surround from?
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 24 2020, 03:58 PM
true basket weave dash face! Nice work, really!
Waiting for chrome surround black face to match the vent panel.
Bob B
Posted by: brcacti Jan 24 2020, 04:19 PM
My recent install, love the old radio's. Its a 75-76 era for a 74, one year off I think.
Posted by: DickSteinkamp Jan 24 2020, 08:05 PM
Cheap skate 914 owner...
Posted by: JawjaPorsche Jan 24 2020, 08:16 PM
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Posted by: IronHillRestorations Jan 24 2020, 08:31 PM
From a ‘71
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 24 2020, 08:52 PM
IMHO the likely versions for early cars.
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Posted by: CoronaMike Jan 24 2020, 11:54 PM
The PO of my car gave me a Blaupunkt radio/cassette player that he said was the original radio. It's certainly not a factory radio - but the date on the back does say 1974 - so I'm wondering if it was a dealer installed radio.
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 25 2020, 07:39 AM
The PO of my car gave me a Blaupunkt radio/cassette player that he said was the original radio. It's certainly not a factory radio - but the date on the back does say 1974 - so I'm wondering if it was a dealer installed radio.
They were all dealer, vendor or owner installed. The factory didn't equip teeners with radios.
Posted by: shane Jan 25 2020, 08:32 AM
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 25 2020, 10:07 AM
yes definitely a 75 76 radio, my 76 came with one of these from new
My recent install, love the old radio's. Its a 75-76 era for a 74, one year off I think.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 25 2020, 10:27 AM
I just noticed that the USA versions always have the word 'Blaupunkt" on the face
Euro band versions simply have the blue dot
For some reason there are many Euro versions in the US
Intact wiring for speakers, power and ground is nearly impossible to find.
Original Hirschmann antenna and OE fender bracket are nearly impossible to find.
Wisi (or Wasi ?) supplied antennas also.
The upper antenna in the photo corroded away at the bracket. Typical rust belt result.
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Posted by: rfinegan Jan 25 2020, 04:17 PM
here is my 75-76 Koln from a euro 911
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Posted by: Rob-O Jan 25 2020, 04:46 PM
Your dash is killer
! May I ask where you ordered your chrome surround from?I just did a restore on my Frankfurt and reinstalled it in my car. I got the chrome surround from a place in Germany called Königs Klassik. The chrome surrounds work but aren’t the kind that snap over the dial faceplate. Instead you have to secure it using the studs for the volume and station dials. It works and looks good though.
As a side note I also bought the speakers they claim are for the 914. They fit but not very well. If they’re not shimmed from the mounting holes on the speaker panels they’re an ultra tight fit. If you shun them they end up hitting the metal of the kick panel next to the paper heater hose.
https://www.koenigs-klassik-radios.de/en
Posted by: brcacti Jan 25 2020, 07:44 PM
So great to see those old original radios, thanks for sharing
Posted by: burton73 Jan 25 2020, 10:34 PM
Waiting for chrome surround black face to match the vent panel.
Bob B
Your dash is killer
! May I ask where you ordered your chrome surround from?You have to ask Eric @PMB. The one for the radio is ordered. Custom vent panel Redline and mod by PMB
Bob B
top picture from George is what is on the way.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Jan 26 2020, 11:28 AM
This one was installed by dealer and still there.
I unhooked the wires to it in the early 70's.
Car made it's own music..
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 26 2020, 01:25 PM
Here is what we put in my Six. I am not really a stereo, loud music kind of guy. I just wanted a radio in there that could have come in the car when new. Very basic with the stock two speakers and nothing else. In my mind, the engine is the music I love. 
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 26 2020, 08:42 PM
Here is what we put in my Six. I am not really a stereo, loud music kind of guy. I just wanted a radio in there that could have come in the car when new. Very basic with the stock two speakers and nothing else. In my mind, the engine is the music I love.
My GT project. The speaker pods are vacant.
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Posted by: burton73 Jan 28 2020, 01:52 PM
Eric got the radio face plate from Europe. This looks just right.
M471 not GT on mine
Bob B
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Posted by: gandalf_025 Jan 29 2020, 12:20 PM
Just found this in a box.
No idea of year....
Looks like a spider made a home in it.
Posted by: brcacti Jan 29 2020, 01:27 PM
Just found this in a box.
No idea of year....
Looks like a spider made a home in it.
I'm sure that is an original radio for the 914, probably someone on here can say exactly what year, my guess is between 1972-76.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 29 2020, 01:48 PM
74.5 through 83
Just found this in a box.
No idea of year....
Looks like a spider made a home in it.
I'm sure that is an original radio for the 914, probably someone on here can say exactly what year, my guess is between 1972-76.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 29 2020, 01:49 PM
also if you want, the ipod connector will plug right in to that radio
Here is what we put in my Six. I am not really a stereo, loud music kind of guy. I just wanted a radio in there that could have come in the car when new. Very basic with the stock two speakers and nothing else. In my mind, the engine is the music I love.
My GT project. The speaker pods are vacant.Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 14 2020, 05:28 PM
Just came across this and it is on the way to us, originally an option for a 1975 1976 ONLY blaupunkt frankfurt am fm stereo! We have ipod connectors that directly plug in to the back of the radio as well. Some one has already posted a picture. This was exactly the same radio I had in my 1976 914 that I purchased in 1976 with only 3000 original miles on it.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 14 2020, 05:32 PM
This one is correct for a 8/69-12/73 production 914
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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 14 2020, 05:42 PM
and finally a correct one for 1/74-12/75 production
Posted by: Olympic 914 Feb 15 2020, 07:56 AM
Does anyone have any info on this radio? It is stereo with front and rear channels. I don't know what the knob controls are supposed to do but it sounds terrible. I have it hooked up to a 400 W clarion amp on two channels that is not bridged and running through infinity speakers.
I believe controls SHOULD be F/R fader, R/L balance, and Tone. But all that happens it just sounds bad differently. Also running an amplified Hirshman antenna.
Don't really care if its not perfectly period correct. 
Posted by: RolinkHaus Feb 15 2020, 08:54 AM
Anyone take the plunge on this?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 15 2020, 10:46 AM
Don't lynch me for this, but that new radio does not look bad. 
Posted by: brcacti Feb 15 2020, 12:57 PM
This one was installed by dealer and still there.
I unhooked the wires to it in the early 70's.
Car made it's own music..
Great that you still have that old radio even if you don't listen to it. Someone already mentioned they don't listen to the radio either, I agree sometimes I listen to it softly sometimes not at all
Posted by: brcacti Feb 15 2020, 01:08 PM
Does anyone have any info on this radio? It is stereo with front and rear channels. I don't know what the knob controls are supposed to do but it sounds terrible. I have it hooked up to a 400 W clarion amp on two channels that is not bridged and running through infinity speakers.
I believe controls SHOULD be F/R fader, R/L balance, and Tone. But all that happens it just sounds bad differently. Also running an amplified Hirshman antenna.
Don't really care if its not perfectly period correct.
I have to put my antenna up so it sounds ok
Posted by: brcacti Feb 15 2020, 01:10 PM
Don't lynch me for this, but that new radio does not look bad.
Does not look bad AT ALL, just depends on what each wants. Looks good in there.
Posted by: brcacti Feb 15 2020, 01:11 PM
and finally a correct one for 1/74-12/75 production
Thanks for showing it, mine is one year off, but the one year does not bother me
Posted by: mjsdt914 Oct 27 2021, 02:26 PM
and finally a correct one for 1/74-12/75 production
Is this a stereo unit? There is no indication as there is on the earlier version...?
Posted by: fixer34 Oct 27 2021, 05:07 PM
As long as we are playing 'show me yours, I'll show you mine..', anyone have or seen one like this? Was in my '70 when I bought it in 1977. Can't see any manufacturer logo on the front, bottom or back. Still works although I rarely turn it on. The button above the right dial is a mono/stereo select I believe and lights up when a stereo station is selected.
Posted by: DennisV Jul 23 2022, 10:21 AM
We have all discussed radios, but thought since I was taking some pics for a customer that I would post. The original blaupunkt frankfurt (writing only about frankfurt now) ordered as an option from the factory (a very rare occurrence) or from the dealer had two different designs...As you can see two types are displayed along with both the usa and the european faces.
I am trying to get to the bottom of what would have been original for a 1970 914-6, where the Vehicle Description sheet lists:
M453 Blaupunkt Frankfurt US retractable antenna with loudspeaker & noise suppression
Is M453 the same as model number 7 639 670?
If concerned with correct year, the leading character of serial number would be A (69/70) or B (70/71)?
I'm referencing https://derwhites356literature.com/New356Stuff/BlaupunktRadioID.html, which I realize was originally created for 356 but lists radios through 1975.
Would that radio have had a face plate?
Referring to https://www.amazon.com/dp/0929758293/. The reference photo there shows it with no face plate.
The car currently has:
- Motoroloa AM/FM in the dash
- Speakers in footwell
- Hole in driver front fender where antenna would go
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jul 23 2022, 12:20 PM
We have all discussed radios, but thought since I was taking some pics for a customer that I would post. The original blaupunkt frankfurt (writing only about frankfurt now) ordered as an option from the factory (a very rare occurrence) or from the dealer had two different designs...As you can see two types are displayed along with both the usa and the european faces.
I am trying to get to the bottom of what would have been original for a 1970 914-6, where the Vehicle Description sheet lists:
M453 Blaupunkt Frankfurt US retractable antenna with loudspeaker & noise suppression
Is M453 the same as model number 7 639 670?
If concerned with correct year, the leading character of serial number would be A (69/70) or B (70/71)?
I'm referencing https://derwhites356literature.com/New356Stuff/BlaupunktRadioID.html, which I realize was originally created for 356 but lists radios through 1975.
Would that radio have had a face plate?
Referring to https://www.amazon.com/dp/0929758293/. The reference photo there shows it with no face plate.
The car currently has:
- Motoroloa AM/FM in the dash
- Speakers in footwell
- Hole in driver front fender where antenna would go
Posted by: mgphoto Jul 23 2022, 12:57 PM
As long as we are playing 'show me yours, I'll show you mine..', anyone have or seen one like this? Was in my '70 when I bought it in 1977. Can't see any manufacturer logo on the front, bottom or back. Still works although I rarely turn it on. The button above the right dial is a mono/stereo select I believe and lights up when a stereo station is selected.
This could be a Sapphire, dealer installed used in a lot of VW’s, I replaced mine with a Blaupunkt Charleston it had ARI!
Posted by: Beach914 Jul 23 2022, 02:46 PM
Putting this one in my Bumblebee. I bought it at Bruce's swap meet earlier this year.
Posted by: jdamiano Jul 23 2022, 05:36 PM
My car came with a crap Kmart 8 track. Got this mint radio on eBay from a guy in Alaska for 250 a couple months ago with most of the mounting hardware. It looked unused. George at AA hooked me up with the dash plate and the rear mounting clip. Added a Bluetooth module to the auxiliary input and now I can stream Dark Side of the Moon right from my phone.
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 24 2022, 10:41 AM
My car came with a crap Kmart 8 track. Got this mint radio on eBay from a guy in Alaska for 250 a couple months ago with most of the mounting hardware. It looked unused. George at AA hooked me up with the dash plate and the rear mounting clip. Added a Bluetooth module to the auxiliary input and now I can stream Dark Side of the Moon right from my phone.
That Blaupunkt Frankfurt is the most complimentary choice for our early dashboards.
It is period correct and the perfect match to the heat/defrost control surround.
It is often seen in similar era 911s that have only a single speaker.
We are lucky that 914s have two speakers available. We can choose the stereo
version of the Frankfurt without having to cut our door panels.
See the picture in my earlier reply.
For early cars Perry, Damiano and Gandalf have the right units properly mounted.
Posted by: DC_neun_vierzehn Jul 24 2022, 04:36 PM
I thought Becker Europas were options as well. Haven’t seen a mention of them yet.
Posted by: wonkipop Jul 25 2022, 02:32 AM
personally i'd consider killing to have one of these.
Posted by: CCE Jan 30 2023, 11:43 AM
While I was reviewing what I got from the old original owner, I tried to identify the best way to do it.
The original owner of my car had a set of clarion speakers drilled on the doors, front left fender for the antenna, an old (non working blaupunkt) and a set of clarions hanging on the targa arch, 
Got rid of the speakers on the targa, deleted the old cable on the door seals, and replaced the rotted speakers on the doors (has the holes already, so no turning back) had to source a set of 5.5” focal 2 way round speakers with a grill cover that fit.
For the head unit, I sourced a vintage look mp3 and BT blaupunkt ($60) on eBay and a new faceplate with the right vinyl, and a new hirschmann antenna, I installed them and they work, but!
I am still convinced the right way to do it is to delete it all, and go back to the original blank faceplate in the dash. As it came out of the factory.
Cant really hear anything with carburetors anyway.
I am still pending to find a set of oval speakers to fit the original speaker grill that convince me. (Tight space)
Another thing the old owner had, a plug installation on the speaker grills to fit headsets in both sides which is funny, I can imagine him and his date with their own headsets.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 30 2023, 01:37 PM
we have the newly recreated factory 914 perfect fit speakers now
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While I was reviewing what I got from the old original owner, I tried to identify the best way to do it.
The original owner of my car had a set of clarion speakers drilled on the doors, front left fender for the antenna, an old (non working blaupunkt) and a set of clarions hanging on the targa arch,
Got rid of the speakers on the targa, deleted the old cable on the door seals, and replaced the rotted speakers on the doors (has the holes already, so no turning back) had to source a set of 5.5” focal 2 way round speakers with a grill cover that fit.
For the head unit, I sourced a vintage look mp3 and BT blaupunkt ($60) on eBay and a new faceplate with the right vinyl, and a new hirschmann antenna, I installed them and they work, but!
I am still convinced the right way to do it is to delete it all, and go back to the original blank faceplate in the dash. As it came out of the factory.
Cant really hear anything with carburetors anyway.
I am still pending to find a set of oval speakers to fit the original speaker grill that convince me. (Tight space)
Another thing the old owner had, a plug installation on the speaker grills to fit headsets in both sides which is funny, I can imagine him and his date with their own headsets.
Posted by: Mike D. Oct 23 2023, 06:22 PM
Here is one that I have in the stash. It is a Mono Radio that says PORSCHE on the AM/FM selector. Unfortunately I can't read the old paper label on the top. I'm not exactly sure what brand, there are two small round parts on the sides that say Motorola. I have powered it up with a speaker and it works!
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Posted by: 930cabman Oct 24 2023, 04:56 AM
Here is one that I have in the stash. It is a Mono Radio that says PORSCHE on the AM/FM selector. Unfortunately I can't read the old paper label on the top. I'm not exactly sure what brand, there are two small round parts on the sides that say Motorola. I have powered it up with a speaker and it works!
I have the same one, it's a Motorola Sapphire. Installed at the selling dealer
Posted by: worn Oct 24 2023, 06:05 PM
Waiting for chrome surround black face to match the vent panel.
Bob B
OK Bob, you are giving me a severe case of envy. If you were to say “Don’t hate me because my dash is beautiful “ I might let it slide.
Posted by: burton73 Oct 24 2023, 08:03 PM
personally i'd consider killing to have one of these.
Not sure what model it is but this was in the 70 914 1.7 I saved from a wrecker a few years ago. I have been cleaning out my shop and came across it last week. Close to what @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24231 said “personally i'd consider killing to have one of these.”
California car stored in hot San Fernando garage for 35 years
Best Bob b
Posted by: emerygt350 Oct 25 2023, 07:01 AM
I just ordered a cheap 'classic' radio from amazon ($29, I mean, who actually listens to radio in a 914?) to replace my nasty removable face pioneer 1 DIN. I will let you know how it looks. Really it's for my phone so I can hear directions from google maps.
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