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Posted by: burton73 Jan 25 2020, 10:27 PM

Anyone seen a double stamp on Vin plate headlight bucket
Too much beer during lunch?

One number is upside down.

4732917226 and 2917221 5 OFF

Nice 3.2 conversion in sweet blue for my bud.


Bob B

Posted by: Krieger Jan 25 2020, 11:57 PM

Oops! Jeez...

Posted by: Gustl Jan 26 2020, 12:23 AM

it's a repro VIN tag and it's not stamped but engraved
very likely, that the guy who did this, just fixed it in the wrong way in the engrave-machine ...

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 26 2020, 07:58 AM

What make this look like a repro?

Posted by: 914Sixer Jan 26 2020, 08:02 AM

Tag looks OEM to me. Somebody just screwed up when they put the tag in and turned it over to correct it.

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 26 2020, 09:13 AM

Posted by: Gustl Jan 26 2020, 11:35 AM

originals are stamped, and this one shows no signs of being stamped
in addition, the "wave" symbol between the two rivets looks a little different than on other original VIN tags
but of course, I don't know for sure ...

Posted by: burton73 Jan 26 2020, 11:52 AM

I am a little concerned on the vins and stamping. There is no vin showing on A pillar.
The car has black paint on front windshield. There are pictures of rotisserie restoration
But one has to have a clear path to 2 vins when bringing a car from out of state.

Bob B

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 26 2020, 12:10 PM

Not sure what you mean by signs of being stamped. The un-changing parts of the plate were stamp embossed, and the serialized VIN numbers were stamped.
Burton...to my eye, you frunk VIN plate looks legit. Here's a side-by-side with mine, which is original...and a jpg of one of the repops below. Look closely at the spacing between the embossed letters. That's indicative of being stamped by a die that was common to all cars. Your "imperfections", with the exception of the double stamp, look identical. The repro tag's embossed letters are not as sharp as the OEMs. In particular, look how the "g" is filled in on "Heizg".

If this were a coin, you'd have someting priceless! Of course, this is just my opinion...and I'm heavily medicated

Posted by: altitude411 Jan 26 2020, 12:17 PM

I agree w/ Gustl. the vin plate appears to be repo. The plate has been engraved and not punched, also the font is to large.

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 26 2020, 12:23 PM

Not wanting to pull the fire alarm here, but I think yours may be the repro. The size, font and shape of the stamped VIN letters don't match the factory style, which you can also cross reference on top of the right wheel well.

Posted by: altitude411 Jan 26 2020, 01:09 PM

Sorry, the image I posted was from a well documented car. http://www.californiaclassix.com/archive/72_Porsche_914_c569.html
I see this font on a lot of 72 vin tags. Did they change for 73>

Posted by: gandalf_025 Jan 26 2020, 02:16 PM

Does anyone know if these varied by year and if the 6's were different..??


Just noticed the 6 version says Porsche vs Volkswagen But still don't know if the 4's varied by year..?

Posted by: poorsche914 Jan 26 2020, 02:42 PM

Looks like factory plates included the the year in the initial number sequence while the aftermarket only has "47"

Posted by: FlacaProductions Jan 26 2020, 02:53 PM

Mine for comparison - original as far as I know...

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 26 2020, 03:02 PM

Interesting. Yes, it's very possible the factory changed the font in 73. Anyone else want to post their 69-72 plates for comparison?

Sorry for the hijack...it appears that @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=7414 has a legit tag.

Posted by: burton73 Jan 26 2020, 09:40 PM

My 1970 model 6 is at PMB and as I remember it the plate was stamped with the vin on the front while the main info that was done in bulk where stamped from the back.

So, the factory made plenty of these stamped from the back only missing the 7 numbers that I believe where done as needed for production. Must have been the place where the vins on A pillar the stamped as well as the inner fender vins. Came together

So, the concern on this car with the double stamp does not matter but the fact that a pillar is not there is a concern for CA or a tight judge at the DMV

Bob B

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 26 2020, 10:11 PM

I just looked at my original '70 /4 plate and Gustl's observations are spot on ...

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 26 2020, 10:16 PM

The "wave" above the stamped (!) vin is supposed to be made of triangular shaped peaks that have sharper edges.

The wave in the original image posted is too rounded ...

Posted by: cuddy_k Jan 27 2020, 08:28 AM

It seems there may be two different plates and/or fonts used on different model years. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10419 makes a good point about the repo plates...they're missing an embossed model year digit, which is probably the smoking gun as to authenticity. Would be great to see other members' plates to confirm the early and late stamping styles...and when the switch occurred. Also whether the stamp on the right fender arch shares the same font in early cars, like it does in late. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1244

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 27 2020, 10:23 AM

Don't be too quick on that, my '70 /4 plate does not have the embossed 0 for the year, it is stamped in with the rest of the VIN.

Posted by: sb914 Jan 27 2020, 10:41 AM

For reference. My 73 now gone .

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 27 2020, 11:44 AM

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Posted by: greench Jul 9 2020, 07:06 PM

This 914 is currently being listed for sale on a variety of websites and is supposedly for sale by a Paul Williams who is an engineer on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. The car is being held by a 3rd party escrow company etc. obviously be wary. Would love to hear from the actual owner out there somewhere, if Paul Williams is really selling this beauty for $17,700 than sucks for me.

Posted by: silverg Jul 9 2020, 07:21 PM

The old "oil rig" scam