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Posted by: MATTYLITE Feb 7 2020, 11:50 PM

It is with great excitement to announce that #40 has found new ownership with us, in the Schneider Family. Michael & Renee Hagen, two of the most amazing individuals I have gotten to know so well, have entrusted #40's ownership to us going forward, and we couldn't be more thrilled. With such history, we are honored to oversee this vehicle in to its next chapter of life within our possession.

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Cheers,
Matthew


PS: With respect to both parties, the purchase price will not be disclosed.

Posted by: PlaysWithCars Feb 8 2020, 12:15 AM

Awesome bucket list item. To not only have the car that was on the poster, but to have THE car that was on the poster. Congratulations! And it sounds like you appreciate the car as more than just an investment.

Posted by: pete000 Feb 8 2020, 12:19 AM

I remember seeing that famous 914 at the Dunkle Bros show back around 2003 or 4.

I didn't even know the significance of it back then !

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 8 2020, 01:15 AM

I do know it wasn't..... 1 million dollars.... pray.gif beerchug.gif




Posted by: SirAndy Feb 8 2020, 02:32 AM

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Posted by: 914Greg Feb 8 2020, 03:17 AM

Nice smile.gif

Posted by: jagalyn Feb 8 2020, 05:47 AM

Wow!!! Congratulations.

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Feb 8 2020, 06:26 AM

Congrats.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 8 2020, 06:51 AM

Very Nice!

Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 8 2020, 07:45 AM

evilgrin.gif very cool!

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Feb 8 2020, 08:04 AM

WOW! It could not be in better stewardship.

Posted by: ValcoOscar Feb 8 2020, 08:11 AM

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Posted by: sbsix Feb 8 2020, 08:13 AM

Well done. The iconic 914-6. I still keep the framed poster in my house.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 8 2020, 08:28 AM

Congratulations! beerchug.gif piratenanner.gif beer3.gif aktion035.gif

Posted by: BENBRO02 Feb 8 2020, 09:26 AM

Congratulations! Please take it to shows so others can see it and learn its story. Also drive it and enjoy. I'd love to see it on the track at Goodwood. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Mueller Feb 8 2020, 09:41 AM

Congratulations, it is going to a good home for sure.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 8 2020, 09:56 AM

my sincerest congratulations, I remember when Cary first got it for the Hagens. Great car. Some of our French 914 enthusiasts have made a clone of it, had it on display in paris last february. Says a lot about the rich history of the marque


QUOTE(MATTYLITE @ Feb 7 2020, 10:50 PM) *

It is with great excitement to announce that #40 has found new ownership with us, in the Schneider Family. Michael & Renee Hagen, two of the most amazing individuals I have gotten to know so well, have entrusted #40's ownership to us going forward, and we couldn't be more thrilled. With such history, we are honored to oversee this vehicle in to its next chapter of life within our possession.

Cheers,
Matthew


PS: With respect to both parties, the purchase price will not be disclosed.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Feb 8 2020, 10:10 AM

Nice ! Even has French tail lights.....

Posted by: burton73 Feb 8 2020, 10:38 AM

WOW . way to go.

Enjoy in good health!!!!


Bob B

Posted by: buck toenges Feb 8 2020, 10:41 AM

Could you give us the history of the car? Obviously it was a winner but I don't know much about the car.

Posted by: JKW Feb 8 2020, 10:41 AM

Congratulations!

Posted by: 914forme Feb 8 2020, 10:58 AM

Saw this on Instagram, and just want to say, glad you added it here. Love the car, love the fact it is going to a good home and will be loved.

confused24.gif No room for the 924 GT laugh.gif

No you should be proud, glad it is yours enjoy it.

Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 8 2020, 12:42 PM

WooHoo!! first.gif

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 8 2020, 02:15 PM

Really nice to see this car go to a family that has done so much to support 914 enthusiasts for so long, being 914 enthusiasts themselves.

Congrats, you two!

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Posted by: Steve Feb 8 2020, 02:24 PM

Congratulations!! WOW!! The holy grail of 914's!! Are you going to set it up in your shop for us to visit?

Posted by: FlacaProductions Feb 8 2020, 02:35 PM

Wow - that shot of the poster laying on the frunk? hell yeah.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 8 2020, 04:08 PM

Holy shit !

Posted by: sb914 Feb 8 2020, 04:16 PM

Marty ... looks likes it time for a parking lot party!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 06:06 PM

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Marty ... looks likes it time for a parking lot party!


Absolutely...only need to find a bigger Lot aktion035.gif

Posted by: Montreal914 Feb 8 2020, 07:20 PM

Congratulations on your new acquisition! cheer.gif

Hoping to see it at an upcoming event! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 08:23 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Feb 8 2020, 12:15 PM) *

Really nice to see this car go to a family that has done so much to support 914 enthusiasts for so long, being 914 enthusiasts themselves.

Congrats, you two!

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Thx Pete, I guess you can say that this is our 3rd Father + Son 914 project here on the World biggrin.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Feb 8 2020, 08:58 AM) *

Saw this on Instagram, and just want to say, glad you added it here. Love the car, love the fact it is going to a good home and will be loved.

confused24.gif No room for the 924 GT laugh.gif

No you should be proud, glad it is yours enjoy it.


Here are the specs on BFG Radials #86/ 924gtr. This is also allowed to run in FIA events today, just as the #40 !

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Hey Stephen...what is your iG @name, I'll check it out smile.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 08:54 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 7 2020, 11:15 PM) *

I do know it wasn't..... 1 million dollars.... pray.gif beerchug.gif


You almost guessed us as the new owners of #40 last week with the GT fuel tank thread , all in fun. Never take the victory lap until the goods are in hand, right ¿¡

Just a shout out to all lovers of Porsche 914 Renn history, when #40 comes back from a light restoration she will live in SoCal . We will have it avail for a look see , at certain functions, tracks , Rennsoprt.

Today...still pinching ourselves that we are the caretakers of #40 , and are humbled with your enthusiasm by all of you here on 914World.
Thank you to you all !




Posted by: Dion Feb 8 2020, 09:20 PM

This is fantastic! Congrats!
What’s cool is I’m browsing 914 world and
LeMans is being shown on one of our Verizon channels tonite.
Way to go fellas.


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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(Dion @ Feb 8 2020, 07:20 PM) *

This is fantastic! Congrats!
What’s cool is I’m browsing 914 world and
LeMans is being shown on one of our Verizon channels tonite.
Way to go fellas.


Good freeze frame " FERDinand Vs Ferrari " smile.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 8 2020, 09:48 PM

Congrats!

Glad it is going to a good home.

P.S. Betty said "I just want to touch it!" biggrin.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 8 2020, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Feb 8 2020, 06:28 AM) *

Congratulations! beerchug.gif piratenanner.gif beer3.gif aktion035.gif


Thank you Michael...pls check your PM driving.gif

Posted by: mark04usa Feb 8 2020, 11:14 PM

QUOTE(Dion @ Feb 8 2020, 09:20 PM) *

This is fantastic! Congrats!
What’s cool is I’m browsing 914 world and
LeMans is being shown on one of our Verizon channels tonite.
Way to go fellas.

I watsched "Le Mans" tonight and saw #40 in several scenes...from starting line up and all through the film. Great to see this historic car in action back in 1970 and now still in good care. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 9 2020, 09:04 AM

I am so glad this historic Six will be living in Southern California so we can see it at local events. Looking forward to seeing it soon I hope. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mepstein Feb 18 2020, 09:05 AM

Wow!, I missed this thread. Congrats!

Posted by: Root_Werks Feb 18 2020, 10:04 AM

Nice find, congrats!

Posted by: krazykonrad Feb 18 2020, 10:26 AM

That is really cool. What's the post-Lemans history of the car?

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Konrad

Posted by: 914werke Feb 18 2020, 11:17 AM

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 18 2020, 11:49 AM

QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Feb 18 2020, 08:26 AM) *

That is really cool. What's the post-Lemans history of the car?

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Konrad


AFAIK...the #40 has remained in private ownership through the decades following its 1970 (2L gt) class P1 at the 24hr. Even included some daily driving duties while back in the Paris /Sonauto dealership driving.gif driving-girl.gif
Then on to a private museum in Germany. Finally making it's way here to the States in the late '80s (I'm told), then into our caretaking in 2020.


Posted by: eric9144 Feb 18 2020, 12:32 PM

This is awesome aktion035.gif
It's so much more incredible knowing that this car is in the hands of a true 914 enthusiast who will use, enjoy and share the awesomeness of this car with the community! Congratulations!!!
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Posted by: racer914 Feb 18 2020, 02:34 PM

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That's pretty cool! Congrats

Posted by: mxkinn01 Feb 18 2020, 03:36 PM

Fantastic!
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Posted by: jkb944t Feb 19 2020, 12:01 PM

Wow! That is so cool!!! piratenanner.gif

I too have the framed poster in the hallway of my house!

Jeff B

Posted by: pete000 Feb 19 2020, 12:59 PM

But what about that Blue Gremlin on the left !!!! aktion035.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 19 2020, 06:39 PM

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But what about that Blue Gremlin on the left !!!! aktion035.gif


It's a legit 4 speed with a 304, but becoming a 401-XR spec v8 tribute driving.gif
Only 21 or 22 XR originals built...so very rare + the tribute will be fun enough
Mike's ride !

Posted by: 14carrot Feb 19 2020, 08:40 PM

Man-o-man! Hard to believe that the most significant 914-6 GT cars of all time continue to change hands in this celebratory year of the 914.

First off, kudos to Mike Hagen for his pursuit of this crown jewel of the 914 world and his long-time stewardship of what is arguably the most significant 914 on the planet.

So refreshing to see that Mike has passed the torch to someone offering more than deep pockets. Nicely done! Congratulations Marty & Matthew!

The Hagen history of the car is chronicled in the "Forgotten Hero" article from 911 and Porsche World, October 2000 posted at Armando's Pbase 9146 GT website. You can view the article here:
https://pbase.com/9146gt/9146gt_factory_race_cars_sn9140431020_sonauto40

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Hey guys, I hope you don't mind my budget narrow-body tribute to your beautiful car to be featured at the 24 Minutes of Le Mans 914 parade lap tribute at Mosport August 2, 2020 to mark the 50th Anniversary of the big win! Any PCA 914 owners able to bring their cars to participate please see our SIG914 Updates in the garage forum located here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=341094

Posted by: 9one4tay Feb 19 2020, 08:51 PM

This is the raddest acquisition news ever! Congratulations Marty and Matt, can't think of better owners for this car!

Travis Skelton

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 20 2020, 08:33 AM

QUOTE(mxkinn01 @ Feb 18 2020, 03:36 PM) *

Fantastic!
One of the first things I hung in the garage. Attached Image



How do you keep your tools from falling out of your toolbox? poke.gif


Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 09:12 AM

QUOTE(9one4tay @ Feb 19 2020, 06:51 PM) *

This is the raddest acquisition news ever! Congratulations Marty and Matt, can't think of better owners for this car!

Travis Skelton


Thx for the kind words Travis and welcome.png
Seems like Renn6 was just yesterday ! Say hi to Lane and the gang
I was bugging Mike to bring #40 to our exhibit for that show....he was just too busy . Renn7 will be epic biggrin.gif

Posted by: gms Feb 20 2020, 09:53 AM

Marty are you going to have the car out for LA Lit week?

Posted by: Larmo63 Feb 20 2020, 09:55 AM

This car couldn't have gone to a better guy in Marty!

Congratulations!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(gms @ Feb 20 2020, 07:53 AM) *

Marty are you going to have the car out for LA Lit week?


Glenn, the car is undergoing the Discovery phase for the moment ; then addressing all areas that need repair/ replacement. It's a time capsule, so due diligence strictly adhered to smile.gif
So...no showing of the 914 for several months.
I will post up pics of what we are finding here , sure to be a few trick factory parts !
Marty

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Feb 20 2020, 07:55 AM) *

This car couldn't have gone to a better guy in Marty!

Congratulations!


Thank you Lawrence ! ¡
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Posted by: mxkinn01 Feb 20 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(mxkinn01 @ Feb 18 2020, 03:36 PM) *

Fantastic!
One of the first things I hung in the garage. Attached Image



How do you keep your tools from falling out of your toolbox? poke.gif


Clearly my phone is way smarter than I am, didn't realize I posted the pic sideways.
LOL

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 07:39 PM

Prototype gt hand shaped fender flares
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 07:45 PM

Front brakes are from 908
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 08:06 PM

GT exhaust system, in very good shape
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 08:12 PM

Trailing arm has additional sheet metal welded to it, and other areas of the suspension console also have been beefed with additional metal.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 20 2020, 08:23 PM

Oil lines from and to tank, engine, 908 oil-stat and front cooler
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Posted by: oldschool Feb 21 2020, 10:36 PM

piratenanner.gif WOW!...very cool man.

Posted by: Dion Feb 22 2020, 05:02 AM

Awesome!Thanks for sharing these details Marty. So very cool. aktion035.gif

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 22 2020, 05:51 AM

Great to see it getting some new appreciation... beerchug.gif
no hand brake ? 911 rear calipers ? no pesky venting clearance...pit stop

Posted by: Towarish Feb 22 2020, 06:40 AM

a friend of mine was the previous owner for a long time, he still has the original fire extinguish systen in his garage.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 22 2020, 08:39 AM

Wow. I hope that the current owner of that fire extinguisher system can reach out to Marty and those parts can be reunited with #40. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 23 2020, 01:12 AM

QUOTE(Towarish @ Feb 22 2020, 04:40 AM) *

a friend of mine was the previous owner for a long time, he still has the original fire extinguish systen in his garage.

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Yes...Mike and I are aware that the fire system was removed at some point. The actuator on the front cowl is missing and a small round chrome-cap has been placed over the empty hole.
A modern/ approved fire system will be onboard #40 shortly , but the unit that ran in the 24Hr would be a cool "Re-uniting " with the car.
Do let me know when you meet up with your friend if he's interested in selling off the part. Also if he is still has the 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs driving.gif
Marty

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 23 2020, 07:30 AM

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Also if he is still has the 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs

ha ,, mike showed GMS and I the cut and narrowed or widened Fuch...I cant remember what it was originally ....It was a long time ago

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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 23 2020, 01:12 AM) *

QUOTE(Towarish @ Feb 22 2020, 04:40 AM) *

a friend of mine was the previous owner for a long time, he still has the original fire extinguish systen in his garage.

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Yes...Mike and I are aware that the fire system was removed at some point. The actuator on the front cowl is missing and a small round chrome-cap has been placed over the empty hole.
A modern/ approved fire system will be onboard #40 shortly , but the unit that ran in the 24Hr would be a cool "Re-uniting " with the car.
Do let me know when you meet up with your friend if he's interested in selling off the part. Also if he is still has the 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs driving.gif
Marty


Hello Marty,
Congratulations on the great deal, I would have loved to buy it back, unfortunately it was too expensive for me ...
Where does the information come from that there were 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs rims on the back?
At LM in rear was 7x15, later 9x15 Minilite and 10x15 Gotti was used.

I will think about the price for the fire system.
Thats my in the 80s, put on the sticker

914 & 6 wishes
Wolfram

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 25 2020, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(Schellmufsky_2 @ Feb 24 2020, 10:48 AM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 23 2020, 01:12 AM) *

QUOTE(Towarish @ Feb 22 2020, 04:40 AM) *

a friend of mine was the previous owner for a long time, he still has the original fire extinguish systen in his garage.

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Yes...Mike and I are aware that the fire system was removed at some point. The actuator on the front cowl is missing and a small round chrome-cap has been placed over the empty hole.
A modern/ approved fire system will be onboard #40 shortly , but the unit that ran in the 24Hr would be a cool "Re-uniting " with the car.
Do let me know when you meet up with your friend if he's interested in selling off the part. Also if he is still has the 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs driving.gif
Marty


Hello Marty,
Congratulations on the great deal, I would have loved to buy it back, unfortunately it was too expensive for me ...
Where does the information come from that there were 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs rims on the back?
At LM in rear was 7x15, later 9x15 Minilite and 10x15 Gotti was used.

I will think about the price for the fire system.
Thats my in the 80s, put on the sticker

914 & 6 wishes
Wolfram

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Hi Wolfram,
Welcome to the 914World...it will be cool to read some of your stories about this car during your stewardship of #40 welcome.png
I can't pin down the authenticity of info about the 8.5" Fuchs rear wheels, kind of like chatter among people that we have spoken with during the quest of this 914. Did you drive #40 on streets , or just take to special events/ track use/ etc. ¿?
Cool to have you on board the Forum here...and let me know if/ when you are ready to sell off the fire-bottle (use my PM) .
Marty

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 25 2020, 11:55 AM

This could be the era in which the wider wheels (8.5") were on the car.
Late '80s, I built the 1/2 cage at the shop for the car to be entered into a PCA Parade.
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Posted by: get off my lawn Feb 25 2020, 05:26 PM

Can I have it if I say please?

Posted by: gms Feb 25 2020, 07:15 PM

Some race pix for you

1970 24 hrs of Lemans
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1970 Tour de France
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1970 Critérium des Cévennes
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Posted by: pete000 Feb 25 2020, 07:33 PM

Interesting it ran the rear sway bar, did all the factory GT cars run the rear bar? Seems that many 914 race cars don't always use them.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 25 2020, 07:54 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Feb 25 2020, 05:33 PM) *

Interesting it ran the rear sway bar, did all the factory GT cars run the rear bar? Seems that many 914 race cars don't always use them.

People often run without a swaybar for AX, but on the big track, it really helps keeping the rear planted in the corners corners.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 25 2020, 08:01 PM

QUOTE(gms @ Feb 25 2020, 05:15 PM) *

Some race pix for you

1970 24 hrs of Lemans
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1970 Tour de France
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1970 Critérium des Cévennes
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Hey Glenn,
Thx for posting these Tour de France pics, see you this week driving.gif !

Posted by: 914six Feb 25 2020, 11:31 PM

Hey Marty,

Congratulations on the Stewardship of this historical car...
Best guy hands down... to see this to the future..!
See you soon..!

Harry

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 25 2020, 11:34 PM

QUOTE(gms @ Feb 25 2020, 05:15 PM) *

Some race pix for you


Great pics, Glen!!

Posted by: KSCarrera Feb 26 2020, 05:27 AM

You might like these – all from Porsche archives. They don't have many. Three more to follow...

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Posted by: KSCarrera Feb 26 2020, 05:33 AM

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Last photo was shot at the practice/qualifying weekend – note lack of sponsorship decals:
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And from the day I shot the car for the 911 & Porsche World feature, as a 914/6 owner at the time, I couldn't resist. Well, I was young(er)...

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Posted by: gms Feb 26 2020, 06:51 AM

At the end of June 1970 Claude Ballot-Léna ran the car in La Ronde Cévenole in France. He did not finish due to an accident (probably what prompted the color change).
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Posted by: KSCarrera Feb 26 2020, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(gms @ Feb 26 2020, 01:51 PM) *

At the end of June 1970 Claude Ballot-Léna ran the car in La Ronde Cévenole in France. He did not finish due to an accident (probably what prompted the color change).
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I suspect the colour change was to bring the car in line with Sonauto's new livery of yellow with green, but I may be wrong. Their RS rally car was in the same colours (it looks blue in this photo, but is green in real life).
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 26 2020, 11:02 AM

QUOTE(KSCarrera @ Feb 26 2020, 08:24 AM) *

QUOTE(gms @ Feb 26 2020, 01:51 PM) *

At the end of June 1970 Claude Ballot-Léna ran the car in La Ronde Cévenole in France. He did not finish due to an accident (probably what prompted the color change).
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I suspect the colour change was to bring the car in line with Sonauto's new livery of yellow with green, but I may be wrong. Their RS rally car was in the same colours (it looks blue in this photo, but is green in real life).
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Absolutely Cool pics Keith !
You should have grabbed a chair in the German8ter when you shot it at the VW Classic many moons ago biggrin.gif
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Posted by: pete000 Feb 26 2020, 11:47 AM

Whats the story on the red tape around the windshield at Le Mans? Was it used as a graphic? leaking seal? hold the glass in at high speed? All of the above?

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 26 2020, 11:57 AM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Feb 26 2020, 11:47 AM) *

Whats the story on the red tape around the windshield at Le Mans? Was it used as a graphic? leaking seal? hold the glass in at high speed? All of the above?



If I read the history correctly, it was used by the pit crews to identify the car coming into the pits. That's the same reason they painted the bumpers on some GTs half body color and half black.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 26 2020, 01:24 PM

Clay,
The story that I got from the prior ownership is that; in the event of windshield breakage/ windshield blowout on the high speed section of the track...pit stop replacement was hastened by the use of high-speed German duct tape ! There were a few extra red rolls that came along with our car purchase, cool spares.
And yes Betty can get up close and personal with #40 anytime we bring it out to events!
Marty

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 26 2020, 02:07 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 26 2020, 01:24 PM) *

Clay,
The story that I got from the prior ownership is that; in the event of windshield breakage/ windshield blowout on the high speed section of the track...pit stop replacement was hastened by the use of high-speed German duct tape ! There were a few extra red rolls that came along with our car purchase, cool spares.
And yes Betty can get up close and personal with #40 anytime we bring it out to events!
Marty



So they duct taped in the windshield instead of using butyl? Duct Tape can do ANYTHING!

Posted by: pete000 Feb 26 2020, 03:01 PM

Was there any windshield retaining tabs ever installed like most of the race cars ran?

I wonder if they forgot to install them and the tape got them through tech inspection?

Posted by: hattrick Feb 26 2020, 04:02 PM

Marty, I'm so happy you are the new caretaker of #40...such a historical 914-6 GT.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 28 2020, 05:53 PM

A couple of World members dropped in to check our progress on #40 today...Eric (Left) from PMB and Glenn Stazak (Right). Good meeting up with you guys , thank you for sharing your GT knowledge with us !¡
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Posted by: gms Mar 2 2020, 06:08 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 28 2020, 05:53 PM) *

A couple of World members dropped in to check our progress on #40 today...Eric (Left) from PMB and Glenn Stazak (Right). Good meeting up with you guys , thank you for sharing your GT knowledge with us !¡

Marty ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2755 ) thanks for giving us a peek at your wonderful GT!
I look forward to seeing it on the track again.

Posted by: gms Mar 2 2020, 06:16 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 23 2020, 07:30 AM) *

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Also if he is still has the 8 1/2 " x 15" rear Fuchs

ha ,, mike showed GMS and I the cut and narrowed or widened Fuch...I cant remember what it was originally ....It was a long time ago

here it is
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Posted by: tygaboy Mar 2 2020, 06:51 PM

My goodness... if that car could talk, imagine the stories it would tell.

So cool that it's new caretakers are so willing to share! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: davep Mar 2 2020, 08:30 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 20 2020, 05:45 PM) *

Front brakes are from 908
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Let me add my congratulations to the ownership transition.
Now that is an interesting caliper. Very similar pin to that on the "908" caliper that I had, and Eric @PMB duplicated many years ago. This U-pin is backwards to the one I had and has holes for the retaining pins. I would like to see the other side of the caliper.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=85031
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 2 2020, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(davep @ Mar 2 2020, 06:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 20 2020, 05:45 PM) *

Front brakes are from 908
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Let me add my congratulations to the ownership transition.
Now that is an interesting caliper. Very similar pin to that on the "908" caliper that I had, and Eric @PMB duplicated many years ago. This U-pin is backwards to the one I had and has holes for the retaining pins. I would like to see the other side of the caliper.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=85031
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Hey Dave,
I'll take some snaps of the other side of the Front Caliper later this week...I'll have the wheels off then.
Marty

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 2 2020, 09:50 PM

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My goodness... if that car could talk, imagine the stories it would tell.

So cool that it's new caretakers are so willing to share! smilie_pokal.gif


We are honored to share the info on this 914 time-capsule with all of you guys & gals here on World driving.gif driving-girl.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 2 2020, 10:21 PM

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Clay,
The story that I got from the prior ownership is that; in the event of windshield breakage/ windshield blowout on the high speed section of the track...pit stop replacement was hastened by the use of high-speed German duct tape ! There were a few extra red rolls that came along with our car purchase, cool spares.
And yes Betty can get up close and personal with #40 anytime we bring it out to events!
Marty



So they duct taped in the windshield instead of using butyl? Duct Tape can do ANYTHING!


Clay...#40 even came stocked with spare rolls of red duct tape biggrin.gif

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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 2 2020, 10:36 PM

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Posted by: davehg Mar 3 2020, 12:28 AM

My restorer may have an extra set of 908 calipers, NOS, but not cheap. He’s got one of the Stoddard GT cars. Holler if interested and I’ll hook you up.

I co- exec - produced the 2015 documentary of Le Mans, Steve MCQUEEN: The Man and Le Mans. During filming, our directors were able to find the missing 1M feet of footage shot for the film. Somewhere in my various hard drives I recall footage of the #40 car and other 914s during a number of the original setup shots with the drivers, if I can remember correctly. I did remember being pleasantly surprised to see these videos, which had no sound. When I can get into my storage locker I will see what I can find and share.

Magnificent car, and happy it stayed in the US. I would love to see it in person one of these days.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 3 2020, 08:00 PM

The King of Cool on the LeMans set with his Solar Productions Co., straight outta' Hollywood.
#40 making a cameo appearance on pit row, to the left smile.gif
Ferrari driver maybe Masten Gregory ¿
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Posted by: gms Mar 3 2020, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 26 2020, 12:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Feb 26 2020, 01:24 PM) *

Clay,
The story that I got from the prior ownership is that; in the event of windshield breakage/ windshield blowout on the high speed section of the track...pit stop replacement was hastened by the use of high-speed German duct tape ! There were a few extra red rolls that came along with our car purchase, cool spares.
And yes Betty can get up close and personal with #40 anytime we bring it out to events!
Marty



So they duct taped in the windshield instead of using butyl? Duct Tape can do ANYTHING!


Clay...#40 even came stocked with spare rolls of red duct tape biggrin.gif

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Posted by: gms Mar 3 2020, 10:20 PM

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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 3 2020, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(davehg @ Mar 2 2020, 10:28 PM) *

My restorer may have an extra set of 908 calipers, NOS, but not cheap. He’s got one of the Stoddard GT cars. Holler if interested and I’ll hook you up.

I co- exec - produced the 2015 documentary of Le Mans, Steve MCQUEEN: The Man and Le Mans. During filming, our directors were able to find the missing 1M feet of footage shot for the film. Somewhere in my various hard drives I recall footage of the #40 car and other 914s during a number of the original setup shots with the drivers, if I can remember correctly. I did remember being pleasantly surprised to see these videos, which had no sound. When I can get into my storage locker I will see what I can find and share.

Magnificent car, and happy it stayed in the US. I would love to see it in person one of these days.


When this board really is too cool…

Posted by: pete000 Mar 3 2020, 11:06 PM

Now that's my kind of carry on !

Posted by: gms Mar 17 2020, 06:30 PM

another TDF photo

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2020, 07:04 PM

A couple pics from today, another view of the 908 front brake
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Some 914 tail end swag


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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2020, 07:13 PM

Cookie cutters (purchased from the great Slits), temp shop rollers while the LM 24hr Fuchs wheels are cleaned up,
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2020, 07:22 PM

I removed the black plastic plug and noticed that the factory has welded a U-shaped steel reinforcement on the outer sides of the jack point. Smart thinking !
From all the years of using my jack points on my black six...they are almost deformed at the top edges.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2020, 07:25 PM

Simple race car interior...Love this wheel and tach ¡
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Posted by: AZBanks Mar 20 2020, 07:37 PM

Congrats!!!! A great car going to a very deserving owner.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2020, 10:00 PM

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Congrats!!!! A great car going to a very deserving owner.


Thank you Sir ¡!

Posted by: pete000 Mar 20 2020, 11:03 PM

Check the ash tray, I heard the drivers during Le Mans would light up and smoke during the long laps, Putting the cigarettes out just for the pit lane drive by hiding them from the fire marshals...

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 20 2020, 11:09 PM

I love that this car hasn't been "erased." So cool to see some of its details. Thanks for these, Marty! beerchug.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 21 2020, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 20 2020, 10:03 PM) *

Check the ash tray, I heard the drivers during Le Mans would light up and smoke during the long laps, Putting the cigarettes out just for the pit lane drive by hiding them from the fire marshals...


NO sightings of these 2 brands and the scent in the cabin is 914 extraordinaire ¡ Even blindfolded, any longtime 914 owner can tell when you're inside a 914. This one no different: old patina' carpet, oil/fuel, and a bit of vinyl scent . Then again I have a very sensitive sniffer...
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Posted by: preach Mar 22 2020, 08:40 AM

This is probably my favorite thread on this forum.

I love the pics and the stories.

#40 is why I own a 914. And a Cayman since this is the car that introduced me to mid-engined.

Congrats!

Posted by: johnhora Mar 22 2020, 11:22 AM

Very interesting on the little things like the reinforced jack point...

Thanks for continuing to post all the pictures and info!

Posted by: oldschool Mar 23 2020, 12:34 PM

aktion035.gif Hats off to you and the crew Marty! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 23 2020, 05:19 PM

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aktion035.gif Hats off to you and the crew Marty! piratenanner.gif


Thx Jaime ¡!

Posted by: RolinkHaus Mar 23 2020, 05:31 PM

Wunderbar!!! Love the pics, history, wish I could have seen the race. smile.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 24 2020, 09:31 PM

From L.A. Literature week ...good peeps and good times !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 24 2020, 09:36 PM

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 24 2020, 09:47 PM

Glenn Stazak showed up and was like the Wikipedia of all things 9146gt, cool to meet up with you !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 24 2020, 09:56 PM

Eric found this today floating around the internet somewhere biggrin.gif
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Posted by: KSCarrera Mar 25 2020, 04:09 AM

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Eric found this today floating around the internet somewhere biggrin.gif
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If you have an iPhone, you can download an app called 'Automoji' - its has 100 or more front-on images of Porsches, from the Type 64 Berlin-Rome car through 356s, 911s, 914s, 917s, all the Martini race cars, right on up to the Taycan. All the 914s have headlamps that pop up and down, too! Just add them to any text message you send. Very cool...
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Posted by: 914 Ranch Mar 25 2020, 04:38 AM

I just wanted to thank you Matry, as my house in HB is about to go on the market. My life plan was at the closing of escrow to seek out number 40 and see if she was available. Now you have found her for me and by the time you are ready to deliver here she will be race ready....

Really I can not think of a more deserving person. Must be nice but I'd still like to see some progress on another car of yours.

Posted by: hattrick Mar 25 2020, 12:02 PM

Congrats Marty!!!!! Not a better caretaker out there.

AND, You couldn't have brought it to a better shop and guys to work on #40...

- Wade

Posted by: oldschool Mar 25 2020, 12:58 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 24 2020, 08:31 PM) *

From L.A. Literature week ...good peeps and good times !
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The Crew..... cheer.gif Now with Girl power.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 26 2020, 11:28 AM

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There otta be a law, I tell ya. Couple a dirty old men skeeving on that nice young girl......

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Posted by: r_towle Mar 26 2020, 05:28 PM

Congrats Marty! Jealous for sure.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 26 2020, 08:22 PM

Marty, I don't know how I could have missed this thread other than I am not on World as much as I used to be. Just went through every post.

So very happy for you to have acquired the holy grail of 914-6's and yes I have the framed poster in my garage.

Congrats and thank you for all the posts, pictures and Info. This car could not have gone to better folks. Wow just Wow! Hope to see in person one day!
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Posted by: Gulf91474 Mar 26 2020, 09:03 PM

Thanks Marty for letting us check out this amazing car. Made my Weekend. driving.gif

Posted by: Robarabian Mar 26 2020, 10:34 PM

WOW. I have had fun reading many, many posts here on 914 World. But this little car is amazing. So proud to see it with its new owners. I'm close to Mulholland... let me know when we can come see this gem!!!

The photos of it's history are just the coolest. Congratulations!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 26 2020, 11:41 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 21 2020, 12:09 PM) *
Gauloises

Gauloises without filers was all the rage when i was a teenager ...
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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 26 2020, 11:55 PM

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^ So is the car on 15x7 R wheels all around in this pic? It's also a great shot to see the tire widths, which looks pretty generous and possibly "square," a setup that other flared 914 racers came to like over the years.

Also amazing how little "structure" there is in the greenhouse. An acquaintance saw #40 and was questioning its lack of a roll cage, saying there was no way it ran at Le Mans that way. Uh… bye1.gif

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 27 2020, 12:00 AM

Dont know how I missed this,

Huge Congrats Marty!!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 27 2020, 10:32 AM

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Dont know how I missed this,

Huge Congrats Marty!!


Andrew...probably because like everyone else on this 914World (self included) we are all busy + involved on our projects. Given the current Global health crisis we are in ...even more reason to skip over/ or miss a couple of threads. All good + you and Dan will meet #40 when the Planet gets happy again !

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 27 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(URY914 @ Mar 26 2020, 02:50 PM) *

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^ So is the car on 15x7 R wheels all around in this pic? It's also a great shot to see the tire widths, which looks pretty generous and possibly "square," a setup that other flared 914 racers came to like over the years.

Also amazing how little "structure" there is in the greenhouse. An acquaintance saw #40 and was questioning its lack of a roll cage, saying there was no way it ran at Le Mans that way. Uh… bye1.gif


Pete,
How times have changed with FIA scrutinering at the LM24hr.
Just look at how the Wynn's Ford GT was dq'd last year, at the end of its flawless P1 position at the end. DQ' d as the scrutineers found that (pre-inspected + pre-sealed by FIA) their pit lane fueling rig allowed the flow of fuel to move at a Milliseconds pace faster than regulations. The Keating/ Wynns team took the hard decision of DQ and moved on.
In 1970 small discrepancies like "Where's your roll-bar ?" the Sonauto guys could have persuaded the scrutineers with " Porsche built it... It's right there in the targa structure" ; and the factory cleverly braced the ceiling area under the f'glass roof with criss-crossing bars + hid them with grey felt headliner. The team could have also told the inspectors to Tap on the headliner so they could locate and hear the metallic thuds of the "Roll bars" above. BTW these bars are all still in place on #40.
Different time of racing, and fortunately the drivers Claude and Guy kept a safe pace and luck was with them in that crazy mix of the Real Quick cars that weekend.
Mike did have me build a removable 1/2 cage for the car in 1987.
He said that he might need it at a Parade event if he was to autocross the car.
Marty

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 29 2020, 11:17 AM

...meanwhile in the wayback machine circa 1974, I was visiting with my Cousins in Paris, France. My Uncle and I are having breakfast in their apartment on Blvd Richard Le'Noir and he asks where we should visit today. I tell him about the Sonauto Porsche dealership as I was trying to buy several sets of the French spec 914 tail light lenses, and maybe tour their showroom. So he makes the call to Sonauto, gets to the parts dept and they inform of Not Available on the lenses. Then he asks if they had a race dept and/ or race cars on dislpay there, and they asked him who wants to know ¿ Uncle replies " A Porsche conessuer from America" would like to visit the showroom biggrin.gif
So the conversation ended about 3 seconds later...and no trip to Sonauto.
I did purchase several sets of lenses while on my Germany leg of the trip from a dealership near the Audi factory; and in 2020 we acquired the Sonauto #40 ...so you can say that it all worked out driving.gif

Posted by: johnhora Mar 29 2020, 01:03 PM

Sorry for the post but I just wanted to keep up with #40's amazing continuing story...thanks

Posted by: Schellmufsky_2 Mar 31 2020, 05:14 AM

QUOTE(johnhora @ Mar 29 2020, 01:03 PM) *

Sorry for the post but I just wanted to keep up with #40's amazing continuing story...thanks



.. do you recognize the car?
I bought it in Touluose in october 1979


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1020 greetings
Wolfram

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 5 2020, 03:43 PM

Drivetrain is out for teardown, inspection, aesthetic coatings, platings and rebuild...
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 5 2020, 03:50 PM

...nice news for this weekend; cylinder leakage is at 2% ...I would have lost that bet ! Not so nice news is the oil coming out of the transaxle was silver and a bunch of metal shavings on the magnet. Total rebuild right there blink.gif
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 5 2020, 03:53 PM

Thank you for those Period pics Wolfram ! thumb3d.gif

Posted by: gms Apr 6 2020, 04:33 PM

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...nice news for this weekend; cylinder leakage is at 2% ...I would have lost that bet ! Not so nice news is the oil coming out of the transaxle was silver and a bunch of metal shavings on the magnet. Total rebuild right there blink.gif
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I would be very interested to see what gear ratios are in that gearbox

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 6 2020, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Apr 5 2020, 04:50 PM) *

...nice news for this weekend; cylinder leakage is at 2% ...I would have lost that bet ! Not so nice news is the oil coming out of the transaxle was silver and a bunch of metal shavings on the magnet. Total rebuild right there blink.gif
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I would be very interested to see what gear ratios are in that gearbox


I've got your back on that Glenn...I'm next in line for transaxle work in the shop & will post up here crest.gif

Posted by: pete000 Apr 6 2020, 07:02 PM

Was #40 at one of the early Dunkle Brothers shows around 2003 ish? I think I saw it there...

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 6 2020, 10:48 PM

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Was #40 at one of the early Dunkle Brothers shows around 2003 ish? I think I saw it there...


Yes it was, at the orig location of Dunkle Bros. on Katella with the 356 outlaw strung up + hangin' from the tree biggrin.gif

Posted by: gereed75 Apr 7 2020, 06:15 AM

What was the configuration (bore, stroke, cams) of the motor on the car when it ran at Leman? Was it a short stroke 2.4?

What is it now?

Thanks MARTY. So glad you have the car and are sharing it with the members in this way.

Posted by: KSCarrera Apr 7 2020, 07:34 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Apr 7 2020, 05:48 AM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ Apr 6 2020, 06:02 PM) *

Was #40 at one of the early Dunkle Brothers shows around 2003 ish? I think I saw it there...


Yes it was, at the orig location of Dunkle Bros. on Katella with the 356 outlaw strung up + hangin' from the tree biggrin.gif

It was way back in 2000! How time flies... I remember because it was there that I shot the car for 911 & Porsche World magazine the next day.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 7 2020, 08:10 AM

QUOTE(gereed75 @ Apr 7 2020, 05:15 AM) *

What was the configuration (bore, stroke, cams) of the motor on the car when it ran at Leman? Was it a short stroke 2.4?

What is it now?

Thanks MARTY. So glad you have the car and are sharing it with the members in this way.


It ran the LM24hr in the 2L gt class...so I would suspect it was a 2L engine. FIA scrutineers can use whatever means to check an entrant's vehicle (including engines), and that would have been a big blow to Porsche to have a cheater engine discovered. The spec is basically a 906 style engine, minus the titanium rods. What is the spec of this engine Today ¿ Stay tuned as we discover...

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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Apr 7 2020, 05:48 AM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ Apr 6 2020, 06:02 PM) *

Was #40 at one of the early Dunkle Brothers shows around 2003 ish? I think I saw it there...


Yes it was, at the orig location of Dunkle Bros. on Katella with the 356 outlaw strung up + hangin' from the tree biggrin.gif

It was way back in 2000! How time flies... I remember because it was there that I shot the car for 911 & Porsche World magazine the next day.


Dunkle Bros. Porsche exhibit + swap ; our motley Crew at your service . We all rolled up in the 3.2 4wd Syncro and set up shop with all sorts of parts and cold Coors Banquet brewskies beerchug.gif MattyLite was not of drinking age then ! My friend Mike (former #40 owner) and I had some great conversations that day.
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Posted by: IronHillRestorations Apr 7 2020, 12:17 PM

I have a request. I'm doing a GT look resto-mod on a 6, and we are using a GT style fiberglass hood.

I'm working on the hood pins and brackets now. The upper two brackets are pretty straight forward, as the brackets already in place with a hole.

I need a measurement on the front hood pin brackets from the center of the pin to the inside corner of the weatherstrip channel, so I can get the pins in the correct location

Armando has the plates illustrated but no location for the front pins.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 7 2020, 05:22 PM

Yes sir Perry...made a mental note on this for you thumb3d.gif

Posted by: pete000 Apr 7 2020, 05:47 PM

I thought I remember seeing it at the Dunkle show, I was not into 914's then and just walked buy it thinking it looked familiar...lol

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Apr 7 2020, 08:35 PM

Mike Hagen brought it to one of the west coast Renegade Festivals, maybe 96? What a treat to see that car, and so awesome that it's in your stable Marty!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 10 2020, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Apr 7 2020, 11:17 AM) *

I have a request. I'm doing a GT look resto-mod on a 6, and we are using a GT style fiberglass hood.

I'm working on the hood pins and brackets now. The upper two brackets are pretty straight forward, as the brackets already in place with a hole.

I need a measurement on the front hood pin brackets from the center of the pin to the inside corner of the weatherstrip channel, so I can get the pins in the correct location

Armando has the plates illustrated but no location for the front pins.


Did a little bit of measuring for you today. These are pics and diagrams of the Driver (L) front corner area of front trunk.
" I " is the inside mounting plate, which is welded to the lower edge of the weather-strip channel. " II " is the outer plate that mounts to the exterior of the trunk (L) corner. Use the center -punch hole that I've indicated , and simply transfer down onto the inside mount plate. For Passenger ( R ) side...simply flip the patterns 180°


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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 10 2020, 07:58 PM

® corner detail, viewing the fasteners holding the plate above, on exterior of the fiberglass hood.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 10 2020, 08:02 PM

Handy measurements for you. The hood-pin-plate basicially mounts down to the corner of hood= flush to the 2 leading edges.

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Posted by: IronHillRestorations Apr 10 2020, 11:44 PM

Very awesome Sir! I really appreciate your help Marty.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 11 2020, 12:38 AM

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Very awesome Sir! I really appreciate your help Marty.

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 11 2020, 01:29 AM

Lightweight
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Posted by: Schellmufsky_2 Apr 11 2020, 02:07 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Apr 10 2020, 07:58 PM) *

® corner detail, viewing the fasteners holding the plate above, on exterior of the fiberglass hood.
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.. if you are wondering about the green paint residue on the hood, the hood comes from this 914-6 which drove in 1971 in LM. I changed the hood because
the original hood was damaged, a hinge was broken. During this time I was looking for a replacement and found it from this Max Moritz car.

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Posted by: davep Apr 11 2020, 12:02 PM

I'm guessing the original fibreglass pieces have been NLA for a long time. I do have a NOS rear bumper though. What are the best replacement parts?

Posted by: KSCarrera Apr 22 2020, 04:44 AM

This just came up on Facebook...

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 25 2020, 08:06 PM

Building the new Left and Right 9146gt header fabrication & mandrel-bending / welding fixtures for an upcoming small production run.
We will also mfg the L + R megaphone " Transitions " into the GT muffler; and also build a Locating Fixture for this style gt muffler (not building mufflers tho). Eventually I'll replicate the tail housing muffler-hanger as well.
The 2 muffler inlets are "Flangeless"...and rely on the Transition megaphones with an id / od slip-fit and gear-clamps to seal.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 25 2020, 08:10 PM

Got the old tattered poster up to snuff and into it's new glass framed home
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 25 2020, 08:13 PM

New permanent home
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 25 2020, 08:34 PM

Found a small cardboard box in a corner of the 924gtr interior ( other car in this deal) ... this center-lock lug socket. It does fit the BBS wheels on the car, that's a good thing ! Our bud Mike informs me that the C/L lug socket was part of another car that he acquired with #40...the Kremer 935 K4- 01 driving.gif
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 25 2020, 08:50 PM

Mike's 935 Kremer K4, I snapped this pic at the old RIR track.
This appears in Al Holbert's #14 Lowenbrau livery here.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 2 2020, 07:10 PM

We have completed the mfg fixtures for the Left and Right 914-6gt racing headers, built directly from the originals (which are in xlnt shape), mandrel bending for the first 12 sets starting this week.
Interfacing Left and Right megaphone-extensions coming up next .
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Posted by: Larmo63 May 2 2020, 07:32 PM

You are an amazing person, Marty....!!!!!

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 2 2020, 07:42 PM

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You are an amazing person, Marty....!!!!!

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Lawrence...I must admit my small staff of guys (been with me for decades) are all a talent- extraordinaire; teamwork is dreamwork !

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 3 2020, 06:52 AM

Amazing stuff. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 10 2020, 06:02 PM

In the 1980's when #40 was displayed at the Sinsheim Auto + Technik Museum, Deutschland. This was when our friend (and broker) Kerry Morse arranged the sale and transportation to the USA . Some other badA$$ cars in view; MBZ silver gullwing, Lancia (Stratos ¿) WEC car , a white 935'ish car ?
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 10 2020, 06:06 PM

A little time to squeeze in the GT header bending fabrication prototypes. Mandrel bending vid to post soon ¡
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 10 2020, 06:16 PM

My kind of weekend therapy; Pines #2 rotary- hydraulic mandrel bending
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Posted by: pete000 May 10 2020, 06:44 PM

How much different are the Factory GT headers vs the stock six exchangers?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 10 2020, 08:11 PM

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How much different are the Factory GT headers vs the stock six exchangers?


Very different, they are donor headers borrowed from the 906. Shorter primaries, Long transitional secondaries (via megaphones).
Seems the Zuffenhausen tuners deemed these "Correct" for the duties of a very high compression , big cammed, twin plug, 46 ida webers, 220bhp, 2L , running mostly W-O-T for race circuit; totally too wild for daily street use. 916's on the other hand did use heater boxes, which also included a tap-in-duct (and flex tubing) for heating the aneroid (spl ¿) sensor on the mfi pump. Most m471's (as you know) ran with standard (long primary tube) 9146 HB's.

Posted by: KELTY360 May 10 2020, 09:03 PM

Marty, you must pinch yourself every time you walk in the shop and see the car. You've probably already mentioned it, but I'm old and forgetful; are you planning on running it at any of the historics?

Posted by: ClayPerrine May 11 2020, 07:24 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 10 2020, 09:11 PM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ May 10 2020, 05:44 PM) *

How much different are the Factory GT headers vs the stock six exchangers?


Very different, they are donor headers borrowed from the 906. Shorter primaries, Long transitional secondaries (via megaphones).
Seems the Zuffenhausen tuners deemed these "Correct" for the duties of a very high compression , big cammed, twin plug, 46 ida webers, 220bhp, 2L , running mostly W-O-T for race circuit; totally too wild for daily street use. 916's on the other hand did use heater boxes, which also included a tap-in-duct (and flex tubing) for heating the aneroid (spl ¿) sensor on the mfi pump. Most m471's (as you know) ran with standard (long primary tube) 9146 HB's.



I actually have a set of the Heat Exchangers for MFI. I used it too.


Posted by: gms May 11 2020, 11:33 AM

groundhog decal and location on your car

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 11 2020, 01:29 PM

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groundhog decal and location on your car

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Thx Glenn ¡
I've been told that depending on the time/ day / lap/ sponsor-op with this sticker; it was on the car...then off of the car. So run it OR not ??

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 11 2020, 03:49 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ May 10 2020, 08:03 PM) *

Marty, you must pinch yourself every time you walk in the shop and see the car. You've probably already mentioned it, but I'm old and forgetful; are you planning on running it at any of the historics?


Marc, we will eventually place the car at various themed 914 & Porsche happenings, tracks, Rennsport, etc. which will include demonstration laps. Don't know quite now if We're up for trading paint in full on Historic Racing .
The car is eligible for Worldwide FIA events, which may allow it into SCCA historic racing as well.
Marty

Posted by: gms May 11 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(gms @ May 11 2020, 10:33 AM) *

groundhog decal and location on your car

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Thx Glenn ¡
I've been told that depending on the time/ day / lap/ sponsor-op with this sticker; it was on the car...then off of the car. So run it OR not ??

I think it is a cool touch

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 11 2020, 09:31 PM

My good bud Lane Skelton of DWA (Santa Cruz) "Driving While Awesome", just surprised me with one of his custom prints of #40 !
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Posted by: gms May 12 2020, 08:40 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 11 2020, 10:31 PM) *

My good bud Lane Skelton of DWA (Santa Cruz) "Driving While Awesome", just surprised me with one of his custom prints of #40 !
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That is awesome!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 15 2020, 07:20 PM

Very early style of 6-bolt magnesium valve covers; uppers are absent of the Porsche name, and lowers have some extra ribbing for strength. Engine type 901/25
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 15 2020, 07:24 PM

GT muffler bracket attached to the trans nose cone, that allows the 2 band-clamps (911 style) to support the muffler
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Posted by: pete000 Jun 15 2020, 07:34 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 15 2020, 06:24 PM) *

GT muffler bracket attached to the trans nose cone, that allows the 2 band-clamps (911 style) to support the muffler
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Reproduction time, please ! welder.gif

Posted by: pete000 Jun 15 2020, 07:35 PM

Are those Mag covers warped, most are including the ones off my car, they now live in a bin on the shelf. Using Modified Turbo Covers...Keeps the garage floor a bit cleaner lol

Posted by: SO.O.C914er Jun 15 2020, 07:46 PM

Marty I got a close look at #40 at Jeff’s shop last week. I promise I didn’t touch it! Haha. Looks great......Drive on Paul. driving.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 15 2020, 08:37 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Jun 15 2020, 06:35 PM) *

Are those Mag covers warped, most are including the ones off my car, they now live in a bin on the shelf. Using Modified Turbo Covers...Keeps the garage floor a bit cleaner lol


Yes I do recall my old 2.7 lower covers, used to constantly put them across a lapping stone to get flat. On these covers (906, 911R style) it looks like these were cast with the additional 1/4" ribs , in order to keep them flat when the engine ran higher temps in competition. These will be restored, then coated with black ceramic...looking to keep the #40 pure to its bones as possible.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 15 2020, 11:25 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Jun 15 2020, 06:34 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 15 2020, 06:24 PM) *

GT muffler bracket attached to the trans nose cone, that allows the 2 band-clamps (911 style) to support the muffler
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Reproduction time, please ! welder.gif


Seems simple enough to mfg a short run of these...I'll put it on the list !

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 16 2020, 03:28 AM

Pretty interesting rocker covers, that muffler mount is unique also, I have this one , and have made a bunch, slightly simpler..
https://pbase.com/9146gt/image/25983784

Posted by: burton73 Jun 17 2020, 02:03 PM

The one that PMB built for my 6


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Posted by: mb911 Jun 17 2020, 04:12 PM

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My kind of weekend therapy; Pines #2 rotary- hydraulic mandrel bending
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Have the same bender.

Was going to do the GT brackets but just built one that worked exclusively with my mufflers..

Posted by: Gint Oct 10 2020, 04:34 PM

WOW

I just saw this thread and quickly scanned a page or two. Of course I'm going to have to read the entire thing.

I'm still looking for just the right place to hang this.

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Posted by: MATTYLITE Oct 10 2020, 06:22 PM

Here's some quick engine update pics. Still some things left to do, then it's reassembly time!

https://ibb.co/74zLVJn
https://ibb.co/89PJ9k7
https://ibb.co/ZGMtfJf
https://ibb.co/M1Xb5x9

Posted by: rgalla9146 Oct 11 2020, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 11 2020, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 10 2020, 09:11 PM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ May 10 2020, 05:44 PM) *

How much different are the Factory GT headers vs the stock six exchangers?


Very different, they are donor headers borrowed from the 906. Shorter primaries, Long transitional secondaries (via megaphones).
Seems the Zuffenhausen tuners deemed these "Correct" for the duties of a very high compression , big cammed, twin plug, 46 ida webers, 220bhp, 2L , running mostly W-O-T for race circuit; totally too wild for daily street use. 916's on the other hand did use heater boxes, which also included a tap-in-duct (and flex tubing) for heating the aneroid (spl ¿) sensor on the mfi pump. Most m471's (as you know) ran with standard (long primary tube) 9146 HB's.



I actually have a set of the Heat Exchangers for MFI. I used it too.

Please excuse the OT
Clay I recall seeing a NOS MFI heat exchanger for a 6 (right side) on a european site
probably ten years ago. It had a large second chamber for warm-up. Properly
manufactured. Quite unusual.
Is that what you have ?
Perhaps a pic ?
Is the left side different too ?

Posted by: mepstein Oct 11 2020, 07:27 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 11 2020, 08:52 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 11 2020, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 10 2020, 09:11 PM) *

QUOTE(pete000 @ May 10 2020, 05:44 PM) *

How much different are the Factory GT headers vs the stock six exchangers?


Very different, they are donor headers borrowed from the 906. Shorter primaries, Long transitional secondaries (via megaphones).
Seems the Zuffenhausen tuners deemed these "Correct" for the duties of a very high compression , big cammed, twin plug, 46 ida webers, 220bhp, 2L , running mostly W-O-T for race circuit; totally too wild for daily street use. 916's on the other hand did use heater boxes, which also included a tap-in-duct (and flex tubing) for heating the aneroid (spl ¿) sensor on the mfi pump. Most m471's (as you know) ran with standard (long primary tube) 9146 HB's.



I actually have a set of the Heat Exchangers for MFI. I used it too.

Please excuse the OT
Clay I recall seeing a NOS MFI heat exchanger for a 6 (right side) on a european site
probably ten years ago. It had a large second chamber for warm-up. Properly
manufactured. Quite unusual.
Is that what you have ?
Perhaps a pic ?
Is the left side different too ?

I saw a similar pic. Was it on Brutus?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 11 2020, 07:52 PM

O/T>> On a 916 with the 2.4 mfi, the R/ side HB with the small bump + a short 1" dia. (approx) nipple , connects to a mating hose ending at the Aneroid housing of the mfi mechanical pump. I've seen this on the ex-Otis yellow 916, and on my buddy's 2.4 mfi 9146gt.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 11 2020, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(Gint @ Oct 10 2020, 03:34 PM) *

WOW

I just saw this thread and quickly scanned a page or two. Of course I'm going to have to read the entire thing.

I'm still looking for just the right place to hang this.

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Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 12 2020, 05:47 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 11 2020, 07:52 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 11 2020, 09:24 AM) *


I actually have a set of the Heat Exchangers for MFI. I used it too.

Please excuse the OT
Clay I recall seeing a NOS MFI heat exchanger for a 6 (right side) on a european site
probably ten years ago. It had a large second chamber for warm-up. Properly
manufactured. Quite unusual.
Is that what you have ?
Perhaps a pic ?
Is the left side different too ?



I will see if I can get up in the attic and take some pictures. They are off the car because the MFI motor is not in it any more.

The left heat exchanger is no different than a stock six HE. What I figure is Porsche started making the MFI HEs for the 916 program. When it got cancelled, then just put them into the spares for the 914-6 and sold them.

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 12 2020, 01:10 PM

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 12 2020, 01:13 PM

Wowzer! I have never seen one of those heat exchangers. MFI in a 6 would be cool. beerchug.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 12 2020, 03:23 PM

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Wowzer! I have never seen one of those heat exchangers. MFI in a 6 would be cool. beerchug.gif


BTDT. It is really cool. And a b1tch to live with on a daily basis.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Oct 12 2020, 04:09 PM

Is that an additional (1") nipple on the far right ?
Is that a perforated area on the right side of the added chamber ?
Very interesting.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 12 2020, 04:13 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 12 2020, 02:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 12 2020, 02:13 PM) *

…MFI in a 6 would be cool. beerchug.gif


BTDT. It is really cool.


Indeed. Most fun 914 I have driven was a 2.2S with MFI and short gears in a 901, which brought more smiles than a 916 did with a 2.4S with MFI and a 915.


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 12 2020, 02:23 PM) *

And a b1tch to live with on a daily basis.


Do dish…

Posted by: raynekat Oct 12 2020, 11:50 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 12 2020, 12:13 PM) *

Wowzer! I have never seen one of those heat exchangers. MFI in a 6 would be cool. beerchug.gif



Oh how soon we forget......

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I've got a 2.7 MFI in my 914 using Ben's bigger heat exchangers.
The shop that did the install added a nipple to supply the warm air to the MFI pump so that it leans out when the engine gets up to operating temp.

It starts easily and is perfectly fine on the street.
The "only" downside is that MFI runs on the rich side, so fuel mileage isn't so hot.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Oct 13 2020, 06:04 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Oct 13 2020, 01:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 12 2020, 12:13 PM) *

Wowzer! I have never seen one of those heat exchangers. MFI in a 6 would be cool. beerchug.gif



Oh how soon we forget......

I've got a 2.7 MFI in my 914 using Ben's bigger heat exchangers.
The shop that did the install added a nipple to supply the warm air to the MFI pump so that it leans out when the engine gets up to operating temp.

It starts easily and is perfectly fine on the street.
The "only" downside is that MFI runs on the rich side, so fuel mileage isn't so hot.


That is perfect ! Beautiful !
The heat exchanger looks to have two features that MFI normally requires.
The larger nipple for cold start and the smaller one to air filter intake.

Posted by: Sway Bar Oct 13 2020, 09:17 AM

As mentioned the nipple on the right is for supplying heat to the cold start solenoid on the mfi pump which is a thermostat with a bunch of expanding washers that move the main rack within the pump to lean out or of course enrichen when cold.

The middle chamber will be your regular cabin heat.

The left preheat chamber supplies warm air to the MFI 'flapper box' which preheats the combustion chamber and also has a built in thermostat to close the flapper and supply fresher cool air in for combustion. In most warm air areas people remove this and/or even remove the cold start solenoid.

I love MFI...if in great order it runs awesome, sound even better and has great throttle response...its a 50 plus year old analog computer. I find mileage really good but because of that great throttle none of us drive it for mileage biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sway Bar Oct 13 2020, 10:29 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 12 2020, 03:09 PM) *

Is that an additional (1") nipple on the far right ?
Is that a perforated area on the right side of the added chamber ?
Very interesting.



The perforated screen is to allow air to come in and be heated since that chamber connects to essentially the combustion chamber during cold operation.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 26 2020, 06:06 PM

New 9146-gt (FIA style) headers , makes it easier for the engine dyno guy to set a/F ratios. These are now a regular MSDS production part. Just dropped off at the Ceramic coating contractor. Originals are in storage, easy to swap out.

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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 26 2020, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 26 2020, 05:06 PM) *

New 9146-gt (FIA style) headers , made easier for the engine dyno guy to set a/F ratios. These are now a regular MSDS production part. Just dropped off at the Ceramic coating contractor. Originals are in storage, easy to swap out.



Now, that's pretty awesome. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: pete000 Oct 26 2020, 11:52 PM

Interesting HE, I never knew about those !

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 27 2020, 06:56 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Oct 12 2020, 05:13 PM) *


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 12 2020, 02:23 PM) *

And a b1tch to live with on a daily basis.


Do dish…


2.4L MFI engine with 195HP:

It is cold out and early on a Sunday morning. I am going to an AX an hour away so I get up 30 minutes earlier than I normally would just to get the 914 started and warmed up. I roll it out of the garage and down the driveway into the street so I don't disturb my neighbors with the Bursch MFI exhaust noise.

The engine has 2.2 mag stacks on it, with K&N watershield air cleaners. But I don't have the "firestarter" cold start system hooked up. So I spray ether under each watershield. Jump in and try to start it. It coughs, spits, and dies. Repeat the ether treatment. It coughs, spits and starts to sputter on 3 cylinders. Set the hand throttle and sit there in the cold car, waiting. Slowly it would start to run on 4, then on 5 and finally on 6. Slowly lower the hand throttle as it warms up.

I can't really give it any throttle because it would be too loud. So I keep the hand throttle up at about 1500 rpm and ease it out of the neighborhood and down the road. I actually have heat exchangers so I can turn on the heat. But not much comes out. 1500 rpm doesn't move much air through the HEs on a cold morning. I finally get out to the main road, and I start driving normally.

A cop stops me and asks why I am going so fast and so loud this early in the morning. I explain that the heat output is tied to the engine fan speed. He chuckles and lets me go with a warning to "keep the noise and the speed down".

At the AX, I work the first run group, and drive the second run group. So I go off and work. When I get done, I have minutes to go through the whole ether and repeated restarts to get a now cold engine fired up and running so I can make my runs. First run is terrible. I don't want to push a cold engine.

I let it sit and idle between runs to get it to operating temp. Second through

I stop for gas on the way home. 16MPG on a good day. Gas is 3.50 a gallon too. AX cost was about 1 3/4 tank of gas.


4.0L Motronic Engine with 430HP:

I am going to an AX an hour away. I get up with enough time to get to the AX and stop for something to eat.

I walk out to the garage, get in the car, push the door opener button, and start the car. It idles smoothly with no drama.

I am able to back out of the garage, and drive away. I am able to do more than just idle out of the neighborhood, but I don't hammer it because it is still cold.

No heat, but an electrically heated jacket keeps me warm enough. And the alternator is big enough to handle the extra load from the jacket.

I keep the speed down, and the supertrapps are not too loud because the RPMs are low. The cop watches me go by but doesn't do anything else.

At the AX, I work first and run second. After working, the car is cold. I start it up and it idles smoothly while I get myself strapped in and ready to run. I make my first run, it is slow because of cold tires. The rest of the runs are good, but lots of wheelspin. I have to finish the chassis setup one of these days.

I don't have to stop for gas on the way home because it gets 31 MPG. Gas is now 1.75 a gallon. AX costs, including travel, is one tank of gas.

For sheer fun factor and sound factor, the MFI wins, hands down.

For practicality, the Motronic 4.0L engine is the better choice.





Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 28 2020, 06:41 AM

I totally get the carburetors dance - I did that with my 2nd Six when I was young and did not mind that stuff as much. Nothing sounds like a 6 with carburetors.

Glad you had a good time and on the first outing met a cop with good perspective and the ability to use discretion. I am afraid they are becoming few and far between these days. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 28 2020, 08:11 AM

In Clay's scenarios, the first just sounds like a much more interesting life. I'd take the 2.4L MFI as my 1st choice.

Working in the industry for last 25 years, I've seen the trend evolve. More HP, better Fuel Economy, and cars have become easier and safer to drive even with more HP due to the electronic nannies.

Personally, I've gravitated to motorcycles, motorcyle racing, and vintage cars to regain that simple joy that I feel has been lost with modern cars as this trend evolved.

Don't get me wrong, totally appreciate a DD that is reliable, has heat, and is quiet and easy to drive on long trips. Just need somthing in my life to offset the boredom. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 28 2020, 11:56 AM

I lived with the MFI for years. Loved driving it. The throttle response was phenomenal. But as I get older, I want things to be a bit easier.

For years I bragged that the only computer in my car was in the radio. The factory six we have has no computers at all. Now my big six has two computers, one in the radio, and one to run the motor.

I got asked why I didn't put a PDK in when I built the big motor. I said computers were great, but I only want them doing engine management, not driving for me. I like the raw, basic feel of a 914. I won't even put in power windows. But the engine management is just that much better.

Clay

Posted by: MATTYLITE Oct 31 2020, 08:04 PM

Back from ceramic coating, our 914 - 6 GT FIA style headers are ready to be put on #40!

The original Le Mans headers will be placed on display.

https://ibb.co/NxRwTfH
https://ibb.co/3dM6y65
https://ibb.co/SBM5Ycq
https://ibb.co/JyK2wd2
https://ibb.co/k5WFmbC
https://ibb.co/SwkH5mw
https://ibb.co/TWFG27W
https://ibb.co/M2bvYp8
https://ibb.co/CQvRtj9

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 1 2020, 07:34 AM

Work of art. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Nov 1 2020, 09:07 AM

as usual with Marty, one of the pillars of the 914 community all of these years




QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Nov 1 2020, 06:34 AM) *

Work of art. smilie_pokal.gif


Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 1 2020, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Nov 1 2020, 05:34 AM) *

Work of art. smilie_pokal.gif


Thanks guys, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=7418 , like they say "If you love your job"...
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Posted by: mb911 Nov 1 2020, 10:17 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 1 2020, 08:15 AM) *

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Nov 1 2020, 05:34 AM) *

Work of art. smilie_pokal.gif


Thanks guys, like they say "If you love your job"...




That is a great picture/ad. Not sure I remember seeing that before but wow love it..

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 1 2020, 10:40 AM

Thank you Ben @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 !
Just a thumbnail sketch that I pinned on the wall at my first shop location. I was coming up with several concepts for the biz logo.
During graphic arts school, I designed logos for a bunch of friends for their start-up businesses, including TriMil Exhaust (original owners)... still might be in current use today

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 1 2020, 11:04 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 ...Tri Mil exhaust logo still current today !
My friend (the late) Joe Miller wanted an upbeat, eye catching, patriotic colors, design for his VW air cooled exhaust business. He came up with the name by way of himself and his 2 sons (3 Millers=Tri Mil). He insisted that Wile E. Coyote appeared in the logo, against my warning of copyright infringement...I designed it as he liked. Today the logo appears like you see it here...WB Studios put the skids to the crafty Cyote'...replaced by the checkered flag !
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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 1 2020, 11:08 AM

Marty is more than a pillar of the Porsche community. His Datsun headers are the real shit! I've been talking you up on the Datsun forums Marty. Hope you still have some on the shelf!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 1 2020, 11:24 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 1 2020, 09:08 AM) *

Marty is more than a pillar of the Porsche community. His Datsun headers are the real shit! I've been talking you up on the Datsun forums Marty. Hope you still have some on the shelf!


Thx Rob !
We have decent stock on 510, 240Z and 240Z competition /large tube headers. Shipping still running on time flag.gif
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Posted by: MM1 Nov 1 2020, 01:17 PM

Just stumbled on this fantastic thread - thank you for sharing, Marty!

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Nov 2 2020, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 1 2020, 10:24 AM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 1 2020, 09:08 AM) *

Marty is more than a pillar of the Porsche community. His Datsun headers are the real shit! I've been talking you up on the Datsun forums Marty. Hope you still have some on the shelf!


Thx Rob !
We have decent stock on 510, 240Z and 240Z competition /large tube headers. Shipping still running on time flag.gif
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This just makes my heart happy, seeing all those boxed headers ready to go, made right here in CA. And for another reason: 240Zs are cool, and sound insane when uncorked. The best sounding car on the Targa Newfoundland in 2003 was, without question, a vintage 240 with straight pipes. Not the Porsches, BMWs, etc etc.

Wonder if that Datsun had MSDS headers as well? idea.gif

Posted by: gereed75 Nov 2 2020, 11:43 AM

Marty you have Datsun 510 Headers? Did not see them on your site

details?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 2 2020, 05:10 PM

QUOTE(gereed75 @ Nov 2 2020, 09:43 AM) *

Marty you have Datsun 510 Headers? Did not see them on your site

details?

Yes on the 510's, I'll send a pm over to you smile.gif

Posted by: SKL1 Nov 2 2020, 05:28 PM

Glad I read this thread- I'm looking for headers for my '72 911T targa, stock with MFI. Does it come with the head and muffler gaskets or do I get them separately?
TIA.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 2 2020, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(SKL1 @ Nov 2 2020, 03:28 PM) *

Glad I read this thread- I'm looking for headers for my '72 911T targa, stock with MFI. Does it come with the head and muffler gaskets or do I get them separately?
TIA.


Stu, we have you covered with MSDS 911 racing exhaust headers !
I believe your eMail inbox has the details driving.gif
Marty
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Posted by: mb911 Nov 2 2020, 07:20 PM

QUOTE(SKL1 @ Nov 2 2020, 03:28 PM) *

Glad I read this thread- I'm looking for headers for my '72 911T targa, stock with MFI. Does it come with the head and muffler gaskets or do I get them separately?
TIA.



How will you do the preheat for MFI with just headers?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 2 2020, 07:26 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2058 We also have the specs + assembly components to build FIA spec 510 Datsun competition headers. No calls for those, probably not too many Orig BRE Historic 510s around with the FIA head biggrin.gif
Gotta love the air cooled Porsche cult , for the sheer numbers of International followers driving-girl.gif driving.gif aktion035.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 2 2020, 08:25 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 some of my mfi clients steal a bit of a heat off of the "S" pipe, using a fabricated clamp-on style "Heat riser" tube, into a 1" hose going topside.

Posted by: SKL1 Nov 2 2020, 10:20 PM



How will you do the preheat for MFI with just headers?
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Don't have the pre-heat hooked up now- that part is closed off. Not a problem here in the desert!!

Posted by: gereed75 Nov 2 2020, 11:08 PM

Man you have been into some cool stuff over the years, and now #40

I have actually had my hands on at least two DATSUN comp FIA heads the ports on them are so big that they have fallen out of favor with tuners these days. besides you need the matching header and manifold to really use them. cool stuff though.!

PM replied to.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 3 2020, 05:49 PM

Datsun 510 competition/ FIA exhaust port difference , compared to the 510 street version header ports are day and night.
Don't forget big Cam profiles, larger valves + ported heads, larger venturi carbs, and operating mostly W/O/T will require getting all of that combustion moving out of the exhaust stream a lot quicker !
OD of the FIA header is 1.75", which is the tube size we build headers for a 3.6/3.8/4.0 air cooled flat six welder.gif
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Posted by: Archie Nov 3 2020, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(MATTYLITE @ Feb 7 2020, 09:50 PM) *

It is with great excitement to announce that #40 has found new ownership with us, in the Schneider Family. Michael & Renee Hagen, two of the most amazing individuals I have gotten to know so well, have entrusted #40's ownership to us going forward, and we couldn't be more thrilled. With such history, we are honored to oversee this vehicle in to its next chapter of life within our possession.

Cheers,
Matthew


PS: With respect to both parties, the purchase price will not be disclosed.



French plates?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 3 2020, 08:04 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10844 mais Ouis ¡

Posted by: Archie Nov 5 2020, 07:34 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 3 2020, 06:04 PM) *

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10844 mais Ouis ¡


Formidable, mon brave!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 11 2020, 09:20 PM

Engine room update
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Interesting find in the mfi-drive cover plate; 3 French 1/2 Francs used as shim spacers biggrin.gif
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Posted by: tygaboy Nov 12 2020, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 11 2020, 07:25 PM) *

Interesting find in the mfi-drive cover plate; 3 French 1/2 Francs used as shim spacers biggrin.gif


Exactly what I'd expect in a Le Mans car! lol-2.gif

Posted by: AZBanks Nov 12 2020, 10:10 AM

27 cents profit right there.


The engine looks amazing.

Posted by: pete000 Nov 12 2020, 10:59 AM

Well that just proves she is legit ! you must keep it in there!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 14 2020, 03:56 PM

Engine builder says that the Drive on the cam-tower is not ribbed as in an MFI pump; but has a specific slot machined into the face. He says that an hour-meter could have been driven off of it via cable-drive.

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 14 2020, 04:01 PM

Something to this example , small 2 1/16" dia. gauge
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Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 14 2020, 04:14 PM

906. 911R , 910 Tach drive..


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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 14 2020, 04:19 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 14 2020, 02:14 PM) *

906. 911R , 910 Tach drive..


Tach drive makes sense , various components on this 2L are 906

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 14 2020, 07:05 PM

A bunch of straightening out on these pieces, but finally off to the powder coater
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 15 2020, 06:53 AM

The right rear engine tin in the picture is modified so that it can be installed or removed
on a dressed engine.
The MFI pump drive can be installed and adjusted at build
time rather than at the track.
Neat idea.
No evidence of Carrera chain tensioners.

BTW the car appears briefly in the thread 'Old 914 Footage'

Fantastic ! Marty keep the pics coming. You lucky dog.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 20 2020, 12:21 PM

In good company...parked, but still in front of the 911's
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 20 2020, 12:35 PM

another view of the 2L
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Posted by: pete000 Nov 20 2020, 08:58 PM

Dig the way mechanical tachometers read !

Posted by: Lucky9146 Nov 20 2020, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 20 2020, 10:35 AM) *

another view of the 2L
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Looks serious Marty even in this state! Very nice! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 21 2020, 12:00 AM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Nov 20 2020, 06:58 PM) *

Dig the way mechanical tachometers read !


First saw one in action while sitting in Chandler's 917/30 under way at RIR; reminded me of the clicking hands of a clock smile.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 07:38 PM

Few more engine build pics
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 07:40 PM

...2.0L
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 07:46 PM

Getting there !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 07:56 PM

After the engine is buttoned up, the tail-shift transaxle goes into surgery
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Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 1 2020, 08:11 PM

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What kind of redline does #40 have?

Posted by: mepstein Dec 1 2020, 08:43 PM

Is there any major difference from #40 trans and a stock one?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 10:01 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Dec 1 2020, 06:11 PM) *

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What kind of redline does #40 have?


The 2L (1,991 cc) is a type #901/25 with 10.3:1 c/r 220 bhp @ 8,000 rpm, 152 lb/ft @ 6,200 rpm . Better endurance mods that were upgraded in this o'haul were case-squirters, and Aasco high perf valve springs/ retainers.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 1 2020, 10:05 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 1 2020, 06:43 PM) *

Is there any major difference from #40 trans and a stock one?


We will discover what is in there on "Opening day" and report back !
I'm interested in the gearing sets chosen in this gearbox as well smile.gif

Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 1 2020, 11:02 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Dec 1 2020, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Dec 1 2020, 06:11 PM) *

drooley.gif

What kind of redline does #40 have?


The 2L (1,991 cc) is a type #901/25 with 10.3:1 c/r 220 bhp @ 8,000 rpm, 152 lb/ft @ 6,200 rpm . Better endurance mods that were upgraded in this o'haul were case-squirters, and Aasco high perf valve springs/ retainers.


Educate me, isn't 1800 rpm a pretty wide range between peak hp and tq?

Posted by: krazykonrad Dec 2 2020, 09:23 AM

Is that a Magneti Marelli distributor or a Bosch?

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2020, 10:46 AM

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 2 2020, 02:23 PM

QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Dec 2 2020, 07:23 AM) *

Is that a Magneti Marelli distributor or a Bosch?


Marelli equipped with (as far as I can see) : 4 sets of ign points, no-mech advance. Makes sense that it will be cruel to street drive...but was not its intended purpose smile.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 2 2020, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Dec 1 2020, 09:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Dec 1 2020, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Dec 1 2020, 06:11 PM) *

drooley.gif

What kind of redline does #40 have?


The 2L (1,991 cc) is a type #901/25 with 10.3:1 c/r 220 bhp @ 8,000 rpm, 152 lb/ft @ 6,200 rpm . Better endurance mods that were upgraded in this o'haul were case-squirters, and Aasco high perf valve springs/ retainers.


Educate me, isn't 1800 rpm a pretty wide range between peak hp and tq?


Just specs out of our Porsche tech's publication; final verdict comes
with the engine dyno report/ charts coming up before the mill gets planted back into the 'teener. We will post up then thumb3d.gif

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 2 2020, 10:00 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Dec 2 2020, 08:46 AM) *

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Love that light, great idea!!!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 17 2020, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Dec 2 2020, 08:46 AM) *

beerchug.gif


Allan F. (head eng/trans tech) is a genius, he also suspends his small bag of Chips from a long ceiling wire with an alligator clip. During ant season...the little buggers can't breech the skinny-wire road to the snacks !
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=50

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 17 2020, 07:49 PM

Continuing with the 9146 GT exhaust muffler + megaphone assembly-fixtures; repro parts for the future of Historic Racing FIA/SCCA/ HSA.
There's a handful of different metric dia's / and cone angles all going on here !
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Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 19 2020, 09:05 AM

You're a master of metal. Trying to wrap my head around how it bolts up to the headers. Too early in AM. Lots of 90* angles for the gases? What goes in the center gap? The exhaust note at 8k must be exquisite.

Posted by: mepstein Dec 19 2020, 09:11 AM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 19 2020, 10:05 AM) *

You're a master of metal. Trying to wrap my head around how it bolts up to the headers. Too early in AM. Lots of 90* angles for the gases? What goes in the center gap? The exhaust note at 8k must be exquisite.

I think it’s a welding jig. It holds the flanges and pipes to get welded but not in the orientation for the car.

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 19 2020, 10:34 AM

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The exhaust note at 8k must be exquisite.

kevin, same setup as my GT, you forgot what it sounds like ??

Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 19 2020, 10:49 AM

Just from the passes across the Columbia at Hood River. Too far away and I was a bit drunk at the time. Feeble memory IYCMMIYGMD.

Posted by: Shivers Dec 19 2020, 12:08 PM

Hey dude, wow...Congratulations! A quick question on the body work. Are those rear flares the original ones? And is it my imagination, or are those wider than the m471 supplied flares? Thanks and dang, congrats again.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 19 2020, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 19 2020, 07:05 AM) *

You're a master of metal. Trying to wrap my head around how it bolts up to the headers. Too early in AM. Lots of 90* angles for the gases? What goes in the center gap? The exhaust note at 8k must be exquisite.


Just an assmbley fixture that holds 3 components of the final exhaust/ not how they fit or appear on the GT.
I do have a couple of great fabricators in the workshop, sometimes I just feel like " Mongo just a pawn with a hand-grinder in the game of Life " biggrin.gif

Posted by: maj75 Dec 19 2020, 02:03 PM

What is the gauge set-up on the left? Is it a 911 gauge with separate gas gauge?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 19 2020, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(maj75 @ Dec 19 2020, 12:03 PM) *

What is the gauge set-up on the left? Is it a 911 gauge with separate gas gauge?


Appears to be something from the Zuffenhausen parts bin, in that 1969-70 911 period. Fuel gauge is a stand-alone VDO unit.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 19 2020, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(Shivers @ Dec 19 2020, 10:08 AM) *

Hey dude, wow...Congratulations! A quick question on the body work. Are those rear flares the original ones? And is it my imagination, or are those wider than the m471 supplied flares? Thanks and dang, congrats again.


Paul...your eyes are not mistaken as these fenders were prototypes, hammered over bucks by hand. Slightly wider than the oe m471 stampings , and the lower contours a bit different as well.
I checked these against my black six , converted to GT tribute in late '80s, with Factory sourced panels; Fender flare profiles + width have slight differences. Thank you for your interest ¡

Posted by: Larmo63 Dec 19 2020, 07:49 PM

Marty's new nickname is M O N G O !!!!

Merry Christmas, Marty & family!

See you some time in the new year.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 20 2020, 12:16 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 19 2020, 05:49 PM) *

Marty's new nickname is M O N G O !!!!

Merry Christmas, Marty & family!

See you some time in the new year.


Hey Lawrence...how did I not see that coming ¿! but you know I'm kind to animals and would never slug a horse smile.gif
Have a great Holiday season, keep safe & strong...will def see you in '21 driving.gif

Posted by: Shivers Dec 20 2020, 07:24 AM

Thanks Marty, they look so cool and being original they give me permission to look closer at the pics and make my own copy. Fronts look close to the m471 flare.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 22 2020, 01:33 PM

Going into the transaxle overhaul this week, the gear sets that we discovered are; A,F,O,S,X ...perhaps factory set for the LeMans course (1970's). Also in there is factory limited slip. There will be several upgrades made, but keeping the tail shifter in place for its period correctness...it actually shifts pretty good !

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 22 2020, 06:39 PM

I was setting up the 2 megaphones for marking L and R (letter punch) just before sending off for ceramic coating, and revealed these small center punch marks.
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Posted by: davep Dec 22 2020, 07:13 PM

Gears A,F,O,S,X are a very interesting set. Almost like A&F are used to get out on to the track, and the rest are selected for the important sections. X seems a little short for the Mulsanne straight though.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 22 2020, 09:15 PM

Gear sets now utilized wil be A,F,M,S,X as the transitions are better. Our trans guru thinks along your same understanding, previous "O" gears set up for the certain areas of the track layout. Mulsanne Staight speeds ("X" gears) using almost all of the engine's 8k redline seemed reliable (on paper) for the 24 hour stretch. The recipe worked smile.gif
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1244

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 8 2021, 11:20 PM

For engine-dyno day I'll be using our 38mm i.d. GT merge collector style headers. The tube size matches the cyl exhaust ports, which are 38 mm as well...
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 8 2021, 11:27 PM

The dyno shop will run the final muffler as well during tests.
We will ceramic coat all exhaust components afterwards; then make the final install after the drive train goes back into #40.

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Posted by: campbellcj Jan 9 2021, 11:17 AM

Cool stuff Marty - happy '21!

I agree an X top gear at 8K is about as fast or faster than you'd wanna be going in a non-aero 914 ... My current 5th is a V and that's ~135mph which is pucker time

Posted by: slivel Jan 9 2021, 11:44 AM

My short gear box is AFMSX and long box is AFNSY. With 275-45/16 Hoosiers the car would top out at 150 and this was needed at Miller Motorsports (now UMC). My car never felt nervous or light at that speed. A little downward rake helps, I think. My crank fired ignition was set to 7500 cut off but I tried to keep my shifting to 7000 whenever I could.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 9 2021, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Jan 9 2021, 09:17 AM) *

Cool stuff Marty - happy '21!

I agree an X top gear at 8K is about as fast or faster than you'd wanna be going in a non-aero 914 ... My current 5th is a V and that's ~135mph which is pucker time


Right back atcha' Chris, hoping that '21 is an Awesome year for all ! Fast times ahead in the (non aero) #40 for sure. A bit of a rake is good advice , thank you Steve @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2332 !

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 11 2021, 07:34 PM

Fresh 901
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 11 2021, 07:46 PM

...my 1st tailshifter 914 , keeping the LeMans patina alive.
The Daytona 24hr/ 1971 class winner (J.Duval-Sunoco) GT , built at this (same )shop was equipped with a later style side shifter.
The shop can always upgrade for us (to the side shift), but for now it's the way it shifted on that Long day in June
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Posted by: 914_teener Jan 11 2021, 08:47 PM

Tranny porn.

Nice work Marty and also a happier 2021.

Hope to see everyone sometime this year.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 11 2021, 08:50 PM


Marty is that the original trans to the car ?
Amazing.

Posted by: Shivers Jan 11 2021, 08:53 PM

Very nice.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 11 2021, 11:59 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jan 11 2021, 06:50 PM) *

Marty is that the original trans to the car ?
Amazing.


AFIK yes, and judging by the wear and tear parts we replaced in the trans ...it's been well used. It has been upgraded with the CMS intermediate plate along with new bearings, a different 3rd gear ratio, and a long list of replacement parts.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 6 2021, 02:27 PM

We sourced these Dunlops through Roger Krause Racing in NorCal, very good in matching the period correct "Wets" used in the 70's
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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 6 2021, 02:33 PM

^ Great stuff, Marty. Those wheels/tires sure look period correct. wub.gif

Looking forward to seeing this car back on its (new/old) four feet!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 6 2021, 04:31 PM

Dunpy awaits his place on the rear flares as well @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2058 !
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Posted by: pete000 Mar 6 2021, 08:42 PM



I am surprised you ran the upgraded billet intermediate plate.

They did not have that back then did they?

I would have dulled it up a bit...Looks too new modern !

I want your wheels and tires !!!!





Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 6 2021, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 6 2021, 06:42 PM) *

I am surprised you ran the upgraded billet intermediate plate.

They did not have that back then did they?

I would have dulled it up a bit...Looks too new modern !

I want your wheels and tires !!!!


I've experienced 901 intermediate plate bearing failures...so this upgraded (California Motorsports) unit will just have to get a bit dusty, might match the rest of the mag case smile.gif
I'll keep the original near the 914 books biggrin.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 7 2021, 01:24 AM

Awesome sympathetic restoration, Marty.

You are the right person to oversee this famous car.

Kudos!

Posted by: pete000 Mar 7 2021, 09:24 AM

Now I want a CA MS intermediate plate too !

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 7 2021, 09:26 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 6 2021, 09:56 PM) *


I've experienced 901 intermediate plate bearing failures...so this upgraded (California Motorsports) unit will just have to get a bit dusty, might match the rest of the mag case smile.gif
I'll keep the original near the 914 books biggrin.gif


Sounds like this car is gonna be seen, heard, and used again. I like it.

And there's a case to be made for cool Le Mans car parts you can see daily…


Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 8 2021, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jan 11 2021, 07:46 PM) *

...my 1st tailshifter 914 , keeping the LeMans patina alive.
The Daytona 24hr/ 1971 class winner (J.Duval-Sunoco) GT , built at this (same )shop was equipped with a later style side shifter.
The shop can always upgrade for us (to the side shift), but for now it's the way it shifted on that Long day in June
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I have driven both, and the side shifter is definitely better. But our six has the tail shifter, and after I went through the linkage, it shifts almost as good as a side shifter.

The six is much better than the four for the tail shifter.

I like the period correct shift linkage on it. Keep up the good work!

Clay

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 8 2021, 08:35 AM

Marty, what do you use to keep the case clean...or is not a big deal out there in CA. Out on the east they get dark and have surface corrosion very quickly.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 15 2021, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Mar 8 2021, 07:35 AM) *

Marty, what do you use to keep the case clean...or is not a big deal out there in CA. Out on the east they get dark and have surface corrosion very quickly.


I have been touching-up the mag surfaces with a scotchbrite pad & a bit of wd40 on it. The original intermediate plate was hot-tanked, rinsed and naturally looks like this. I'm sure it will turn dark grey when the humidity sets in smile.gif
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 15 2021, 07:02 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 8 2021, 07:21 AM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jan 11 2021, 07:46 PM) *

...my 1st tailshifter 914 , keeping the LeMans patina alive.
The Daytona 24hr/ 1971 class winner (J.Duval-Sunoco) GT , built at this (same )shop was equipped with a later style side shifter.
The shop can always upgrade for us (to the side shift), but for now it's the way it shifted on that Long day in June
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I have driven both, and the side shifter is definitely better. But our six has the tail shifter, and after I went through the linkage, it shifts almost as good as a side shifter.

The six is much better than the four for the tail shifter.

I like the period correct shift linkage on it. Keep up the good work!

Clay


Clay, thank you for chiming in with your findings...I am looking forward to Not grinding gears & Not missing shifts. There is something to the "Look" of a tail shifter on this special teener !
The Daytona 24hr (1971) class winner 9146GT did have its tail-shifter switched out to side-shifter long ago, way before its new ownership in 2020, at the Gooding Auction.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 15 2021, 07:09 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Mar 7 2021, 12:24 AM) *

Awesome sympathetic restoration, Marty.

You are the right person to oversee this famous car.

Kudos!


Thank you for the kind words Lawrence !!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 19 2021, 09:31 PM

Healthy Carbs this week
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 19 2021, 09:34 PM

...Carbs re-united to the 2.0L, Kettle Chips = the other carbs smile.gif
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Posted by: Shivers Mar 20 2021, 07:15 AM

Wow.

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 20 2021, 08:08 AM

Are the Kettle Chips a hidden clue?

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 20 2021, 08:10 AM

Just beautiful and the best "carbs" for you too. beerchug.gif

Posted by: pete000 Mar 20 2021, 03:16 PM

Beautiful Cars, who rebuilt them?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 20 2021, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 20 2021, 02:16 PM) *

Beautiful Cars, who rebuilt them?


Paul at PerformanceOriented.com in Salem ,Oregon did these. I also send Weber carb work to TopEndPerformance.com in Chatsworth, Ca.


Posted by: MATTYLITE Mar 30 2021, 06:41 PM

We're happy to say, she fired right up and sounds incredible.

Enjoy,
Matt




Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 30 2021, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Mar 20 2021, 07:08 AM) *

Are the Kettle Chips a hidden clue?


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=17068 My engine tech needs his daily dose of Salt + 'Taters chowtime.gif , he suspends the bag on a thin wire and an alligator clip; pesky ants not able to find his snacks !

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 31 2021, 06:50 AM

Sounds perfect. Congratulations. beerchug.gif

Posted by: burton73 Mar 31 2021, 03:21 PM

Marty my brother,

Conrad’s.---- Sounds so sweet


Bob B
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 31 2021, 07:06 PM


Mmmmmmm 46s.....the real stuff.
Nice to see correct fuel line "clamps" Italian style.
First I've seen in decades.
Beautiful. Beautiful.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 31 2021, 09:17 PM

Only driven one 2.0 with 46s…and was amazed by how well it drove. The owner grinned as one does with cracked ribs, and mentioned how that took a while.

Meanwhile, @ 17:02…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJl6DUOWBw

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 31 2021, 11:36 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 31 2021, 08:17 PM) *

Only driven one 2.0 with 46s…and was amazed by how well it drove. The owner grinned as one does with cracked ribs, and mentioned how that took a while.

Meanwhile, @ 17:02…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJl6DUOWBw


Pete, the 8mm cameraman Did have a steady hand for sure , never take that old technology for granted ! Steve, Neile and son Chad McQueen all there, and a special 914 biggrin.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 1 2021, 05:50 AM

Why does it have 911 headers and a 911 engine mount on it????

BTW... that is the true definition of "Mechanical Music".



Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 1 2021, 08:43 AM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 1 2021, 04:50 AM) *

Why does it have 911 headers and a 911 engine mount on it????

BTW... that is the true definition of "Mechanical Music".


Our engine tech's start & run bench is not set up for mid-engine headers as 90% of their engine work is 911. Easier to just use rear engine headers for the tests. 911 engine mount is just part of how he designed the bench framework as well.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 1 2021, 08:57 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Apr 1 2021, 09:43 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 1 2021, 04:50 AM) *

Why does it have 911 headers and a 911 engine mount on it????

BTW... that is the true definition of "Mechanical Music".


Our engine tech's start & run bench is not set up for mid-engine headers as 90% of their engine work is 911. Easier to just use rear engine headers for the tests. 911 engine mount is just part of how he designed the bench framework as well.


I figured as much.. I was just poking you. poke.gif


Posted by: ValcoOscar Apr 1 2021, 09:01 AM

Great video...sweet sound beerchug.gif

Congrats!!!!!

I can't afford a full-size motor so.....



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Posted by: 914Toy Apr 1 2021, 10:21 AM

Amazing skills and outcome.

Posted by: MATTYLITE May 2 2021, 10:27 PM

Thank you Eric + Team @ PMB for refurbishing #40's front & rear brakes! They came out amazing, and the work is nothing less than exceptional.

#40 continues to come back to life with various cable replacements, pedal bushings, CVs + axles, interior, and engine bay refurbishing.

Below are some before & after pictures showcasing PMB's work.

https://ibb.co/JcYQLf7
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https://ibb.co/6vkcBFc
https://ibb.co/6w43zW0
https://ibb.co/pjSfNSQ
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https://ibb.co/X7VMxqK
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Posted by: MATTYLITE May 2 2021, 10:27 PM

**double post removed**

Posted by: TRS63 May 3 2021, 02:03 AM

Beautiful calipers.. And what an engine sound, I mean music, lovely !

Antoine

Posted by: Shivers May 3 2021, 08:20 AM

Hi Marty, the fronts are something special, could you tell me what they came off of? They must be alloy, was that the factory finish? They really came out nice.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 3 2021, 05:56 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24690 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24781 Trust me I had nothing to do with these brakes except dismount them from the car; Eric and his team @PMBperformance worked their evil magic on these biggrin.gif

The M style calipers are re-finished in a golden-zinc, and the front light-alloy Alum calipers are finished smooth and not sure of the coating ( Eric might chime in), but there is an applied lubricant buffed onto the surface.

The factory sourced the fronts off of the 908 model for #40 driving.gif
Marty

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 30 2021, 09:52 PM

Details, cleaning, Details, cleaning...getting it done !
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Posted by: KELTY360 May 30 2021, 10:54 PM


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Posted by: JeffBowlsby May 30 2021, 11:20 PM

Amazing, fantastic car Marty. drooley.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine May 31 2021, 09:46 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 30 2021, 10:52 PM) *

Details, cleaning, Details, cleaning...getting it done !
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I know you are just using them to roll the car around the shop, but the cookie cutters look so WRONG on that car.


Clay

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 31 2021, 08:02 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:46 AM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 30 2021, 10:52 PM) *

Details, cleaning, Details, cleaning...getting it done !
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I know you are just using them to roll the car around the shop, but the cookie cutters look so WRONG on that car.


Clay

Yep...just rollers. The tires that came on #40 were ancient cracked and leaked air overnight, became too labor intensive to keep up. So wheels went out for restoration, new (period correct) Dunlops ordered up, and on went the Cookies on scrub slicks for daily push arounds. Cookies look weird but does the trick !

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 3 2021, 09:17 PM

Dunpy logos on the way !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 29 2021, 09:35 PM

Getting closer, a few pics of our newly manufactured gt style headers; these are 1.625" od and ceramic coated in satin silver
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 29 2021, 09:41 PM

o2 ports for a/F sampling; installed in the left and right collectors.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 29 2021, 09:45 PM

Drivers side
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Posted by: mb911 Jul 30 2021, 05:25 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jul 29 2021, 07:41 PM) *

o2 ports for a/F sampling; installed in the left and right collectors.
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Wont the o2 bung be to low in the clock position and cause o2 sensor failure?

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 30 2021, 05:48 AM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jul 29 2021, 10:41 PM) *

o2 ports for a/F sampling; installed in the left and right collectors.
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Can you put heater boxes on them? I need a set of short heat exchangers like these headers so I can put mufflers on my car and get rid of the supertrapps.

Clay

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 30 2021, 08:25 AM

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Can you put heater boxes on them? I need a set of short heat exchangers like these headers so I can put mufflers on my car and get rid of the supertrapps.

Clay


Clay, just find a local sheet metal shop to form the 18 or 20 gauge "Clam-shells" on the break, and that's 75% of fabbing' the custom HB's. You can easily make the cardboard samples for the shop. There's a good section towards the rear of these headers that are on a flat plane.
There's a set here in large tube 1.75" od (4.0L) with Clay & Betty's name on them; RuF recently took 2 sets for their vintage GT builds number40_914.jpg

Not a problem @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 on the lambda probes, as we only insert them on test + tune days, then replace with the threaded port-plugs. Clearance is the issue, so hence the placement of the ports.

Posted by: Shivers Jul 30 2021, 08:33 AM

When you post up new stuff, it's like the Christmas Sears catalog has arrived again... smile.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 30 2021, 01:01 PM

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When you post up new stuff, it's like the Christmas Sears catalog has arrived again... smile.gif


You are slits.gif

Posted by: Shivers Jul 30 2021, 05:09 PM

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When you post up new stuff, it's like the Christmas Sears catalog has arrived again... smile.gif


You are slits.gif



Hahaha, yes I am, feeling really old right now. Lol

Posted by: 930cabman Aug 1 2021, 11:38 AM

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Wont the o2 bung be to low in the clock position and cause o2 sensor failure?


I was curious of the same, from my understanding they should be installed between 10 and 2 O clock for moisture reasons?

BTW: thanks being a good steward for #40. An amazing piece of history, I often tell of the 1970 Lemans endurance race finishing 6th behind a couple 917's and a couple 512's. Simply amazing, and many of us have an example in our own garages.

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 1 2021, 02:06 PM

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Can you put heater boxes on them? I need a set of short heat exchangers like these headers so I can put mufflers on my car and get rid of the supertrapps.

Clay


No Supertraps.. beerchug.gif will sound So much Better driving.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 1 2021, 06:02 PM

We have even kept the o2 ports on the lambda year (approx 1981-up) 911s just "Off of horizontal" angle @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24877 , again for purposes of clearence and allowing the Tech free removal space for the valve cover; without the need to (usually) unscrew a thermal-seized o2 probe .
Never had a client complaint about failed o2 probe(s) due to placement ; and my client experience with Bosch or Denso o2 probes = 50k to 80k miles of good use.
On the FIA style gt (#40) headers, there's probably slim chance of moisture buildup due to the amount of fresh air that immediately enters (upon engine shut off) those twin thermos sized straight through muffler tips/ megaphones , and at approx 24" you're right at the collectors.
Side Note; the Sonauto #40 had lady luck with her all 24 hours. Just Imagine that the $2.50 part that fails at hour 23 ½ just cost you the race...didn't happen to #40 !

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Posted by: 930cabman Aug 2 2021, 05:24 PM

Whenever an acquaintance questions my new 914's in the collection, I chime in with a short story of the 1970 Lemans 24 hour race. Generally that will quiet most naysayers.
Only the mighty 917 and a couple 512's could keep this baby at bay

Curious: I know you never ask a girls weight, but could you make an exception?

Thanks again for posting and being a great steward of #40

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 4 2021, 11:34 PM

Quick Vic Elford makes his getaway; I spy Sonauto back there !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 12:42 PM

This week's shop action
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 12:44 PM

#40
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 12:46 PM

Pipes
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 12:50 PM

Another look at our 1.625" od gt style headers, 1,750° f ceramic coated /satin silver.
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 16 2021, 04:29 PM

A thing of beauty. beerchug.gif

Posted by: emerygt350 Aug 16 2021, 06:36 PM

Wow. why does that engine bay look so much more spacious than mine! I don't have 2 of those cylinders!

Posted by: Dion Aug 16 2021, 06:38 PM

Thanks for the updates Marty. Love seeing this historic beast. So glad
Your the custodian.

Posted by: wonkipop Aug 16 2021, 07:11 PM

whens dumpy getting stuck on smile.gif ?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 07:18 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=14843 putting in the long hours & elbow grease on #40. Rumor has it that the next ('22 ) Historics at WeatherTech Laguna Seca "Featured Marque" will be LeMans cars !
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 16 2021, 07:28 PM

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whens dumpy getting stuck on smile.gif ?


Any Day now ¡!
Thank you for your comments ! @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9712 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 welcome.png and @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2766
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Posted by: ClayPerrine Aug 17 2021, 06:30 AM

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I am glad you seem to like Betty's smilie for #40.

Posted by: Shivers Aug 17 2021, 07:36 AM

Sure is looking fine, thinking about getting one of my own. wink.gif first.gif

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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Aug 17 2021, 09:52 AM

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Rumor has it that the next ('22 ) Historics at WeatherTech Laguna Seca "Featured Marque" will be LeMans cars !


Now, that would be an inspired choice on their part. Let's hope, let's hope—and, either way, I cannot wait to see #40 back on track.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Aug 17 2021, 09:57 AM

Obviously two very different setups. Marty, what's your take on each?


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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Aug 17 2021, 10:02 AM

Obviously one is part of the GT "rally muffler" setup below.

Which has me wondering if those intermediary pipes between the headers and the mufflers could be utilized for catalysts or even cats with heater boxes for those who need or want catalysts in a street car. Suspect cats would supercharge a very small heater box, too. idea.gif




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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 17 2021, 11:11 AM

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I am glad you seem to like Betty's smilie for #40.


We love it Clay & nice surprise from Betty...it's like being Knighted here; almost like Sir Andy ! andy914.jpg

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24781 how's it handle as a Daily ? biggrin.gif

Posted by: gereed75 Aug 19 2021, 07:16 AM

Pete, That is a really interesting thought. I have always thought about the application of an aviation style heat muff for our cars as a more simple alternative to the stock heat shrouds. The problem with that is they need an un-obstructed section of straight pipe to fit onto, and that does just not exist on the stock headers or on most other headers. See this

http://www.velocedge.com/Starduster/Projects/Heater/Default.asp

But this configuration does provide that straight section. The issue would be getting the blown air routed back to this section and then returning it to the heat pipes.

I think maybe this deserves some further thought and its own thread so as not to detract from #40 worship.

Gotta say that #40 is the holy grail and Marty and crew are the perfect custodians. Sometimes life and karma do produce the perfect match!

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Aug 19 2021, 07:45 AM

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Pete, That is a really interesting thought. I have always thought about the application of an aviation style heat muff for our cars as a more simple alternative to the stock heat shrouds. The problem with that is they need an un-obstructed section of straight pipe to fit onto, and that does just not exist on the stock headers or on most other headers. See this

http://www.velocedge.com/Starduster/Projects/Heater/Default.asp

But this configuration does provide that straight section. The issue would be getting the blown air routed back to this section and then returning it to the heat pipes.

I think maybe this deserves some further thought and its own thread so as not to detract from #40 worship.

Gotta say that #40 is the holy grail and Marty and crew are the perfect custodians. Sometimes life and karma do produce the perfect match!


Agree with all your points—particularly that last one.

Those straight pipes really do provide for some interesting options, and small HEs would be one of the best of them. I would be interested in cats with HEs as I would love to have a cleaner 914—though I'd want to weigh that against the implications for engine oil temps and transaxle oil temps. The heat muffler you linked is very, very interesting—as is the flapper box in the pics, particularly if it seals better than the Porsche flappers. The new ones I bought years ago still bled heat from my SSIs, which was super annoying on hot days. sad.gif

Agree about the question on how to get the heat forward again, to the flapper boxes, but suspect fairly elegant heat return tubes could be made to work. One begins to wonder if the GT headers could also provide an easier way to do valve adjustments, if the straight pipes and muffler could be left in place? How cool would that be? Looking at some of those GT hangars/mounts with increased interest now, as I am wondering if they support the front of the straight pipes? Or if that is even necessary for a valve adjust?

Yes, a separate thread is probably warranted to avoid polluting this one—but this fantastic thread on #40, a 914 that has been inspiring me for more than 30 years and is prominently displayed in the 000 office, prompted the crazy thought. Which gets me back to your last point… beerchug.gif

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