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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Dispute about fuel filter

Posted by: 911GT2 Mar 12 2020, 02:51 AM

So in order to get the car sorted once it's here it started ordering parts.

Because shipping from the well know US shops to EU is expensive I found another shop that had some parts I needed.

So I ordered the parts one of them washttps://www.rosepassion.com/nl/schema-s-porsche-914-1974-eu-914-4-2-0-manuele-bak-5-versnellingen/motor-en-benzinetoevoer-36/benzineleidingen-benzinepomp-benzinefilter-3758/brandstoffilter-106800.

Like you can see in the link the filter has slots on the connections so the fuel lines have something to grip on to. And good thing to as fuel injection obviously has pressure on it.

What they send me is this:
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This is a cheap 2 euro Bosch 0 450 904 058 generic fuel filter.

So not only did they overcharge me by almost three times, they just din't deliver what was promised in the picture.

The seller literally states "The Filter you received is correct for your car." And yes I can send it back (more expensive to do so than to just buy another one locally) but I ordered online because I needed more parts not just this filter.

Anyway - keep away from this site!

Posted by: falcor75 Mar 12 2020, 03:26 AM

Rosepassion is usually really good but in this case I think they have gotten the info from their supplier and dont have their own knowledge to go on to realize that it is the wrong filter for a 914.

Posted by: 911GT2 Mar 12 2020, 03:33 AM

QUOTE(falcor75 @ Mar 12 2020, 01:26 AM) *

Rosepassion is usually really good but in this case I think they have gotten the info from their supplier and dont have their own knowledge to go on to realize that it is the wrong filter for a 914.

Well that's exactly what I tried to tell them. But it doesn't sink in.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 12 2020, 05:02 AM

I think these are the guys who offer the Euromeister Fuchs.

https://www.rosepassion.com/en/parts-porsche-911-1986-eu-3-2-coupe-manual-gearbox-5-speed/rims-and-track-wideners-and-accessories-217/rims-1379/p572062-rim-9-x-17-et15-et-15-mm-9-x-17-inches-3841-0-572062

Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2020, 05:53 AM

When this kind of stuff happens I just call my credit card company, explain the problem, and they take care of it. I hope you can do the same.

Posted by: 911GT2 Mar 12 2020, 06:03 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 12 2020, 03:53 AM) *

When this kind of stuff happens I just call my credit card company, explain the problem, and they take care of it. I hope you can do the same.

It's not about the money for me.

I would just like an email back stating: Sorry we made is mistake, you were right we'll send you another filter.

God only knows what would happen if I or another teener would mount this and it would come lose while driving...

Posted by: 914Sixer Mar 12 2020, 06:28 AM

There are about 50 parts that I know of that are NOT Correct for the 914 BUT someone put them in a catalog and that makes them the FINAL WORD as being accurate. Really pisses me off when you provide them with the correct information and they tell you your the dumb ass.

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 12 2020, 12:15 PM

Make sure you get the correct filter but is made in Israel not China as that one splits apart after being under pressure. The 76-79 VW bus guys have had lots of problems with the Chinese ones.

Posted by: 76-914 Mar 12 2020, 12:38 PM

IIRC, That filter should be on the intake side of the pump and never under pressure. confused24.gif

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 12 2020, 12:41 PM

that fuel filter is for a low pressure carb car


QUOTE(911GT2 @ Mar 12 2020, 01:51 AM) *

So in order to get the car sorted once it's here it started ordering parts.

Because shipping from the well know US shops to EU is expensive I found another shop that had some parts I needed.

So I ordered the parts one of them washttps://www.rosepassion.com/nl/schema-s-porsche-914-1974-eu-914-4-2-0-manuele-bak-5-versnellingen/motor-en-benzinetoevoer-36/benzineleidingen-benzinepomp-benzinefilter-3758/brandstoffilter-106800.

Like you can see in the link the filter has slots on the connections so the fuel lines have something to grip on to. And good thing to as fuel injection obviously has pressure on it.

What they send me is this:
Attached Image
This is a cheap 2 euro Bosch 0 450 904 058 generic fuel filter.

So not only did they overcharge me by almost three times, they just din't deliver what was promised in the picture.

The seller literally states "The Filter you received is correct for your car." And yes I can send it back (more expensive to do so than to just buy another one locally) but I ordered online because I needed more parts not just this filter.

Anyway - keep away from this site!


Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 12 2020, 01:21 PM

The FI filter works just dandy. Get the one with the same size nipples. No line hassles that way. Install prior to the pump in the correct orientation and use shouldered clamps.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 12 2020, 01:24 PM

I use this on Betty's car:

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It is used on a 1987 Nissan Pulsar. It is designed to be in the pressure loop after the pump, not in front of the pump. I have it mounted in the engine compartment. It picks up the small particles that could clog the injectors. I also have a low pressure filter in front of the pump to protect it from debris in the tank.

They are cheap, and available at FLAPS.



Posted by: Olympic 914 Mar 12 2020, 02:26 PM

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I like this idea..

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 12 2020, 05:11 PM

First off, if they dorked it up, they should be on the hook.

Secondly,
Support your 914world vendors
I have 2 flavors
Inexpensive too

Heck
I'd bet AA even has these

The right part has the right fuel flow. May not be an issue, but you don't know until you find out.

https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/search/?q=fuel+filter


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Posted by: 914Sixer Mar 12 2020, 07:39 PM

Either one of 914Rubber filters will work . The bad is neither lock into the filter holder.

Posted by: 911GT2 Mar 13 2020, 04:46 AM

Update: Reaction from Rosepassion.

QUOTE
Dear Sir, This filter is mounted between the tank and the pump (low pressure here). You have to mount it in the correct way by respecting the arrow on it (respecting the fuel flow). It does the job perfectly since we sold it (more than 10 years) We proposed you to send back the filter for a refund if you won't keep this item. The part remains correct and it is not our responsibility to handle the return cost. However, has a commercial gesture, we are going to refund you this item directly on your Paypal account without asking you to send it back. The credit note is already done. Best regards,


So stubborn still, but the service has picked up!

I'll leave it at this.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 13 2020, 09:27 AM

The big problem is that that type of low pressure filter is know to leak (in a high pressure system) and I have know that for over 25 years chair.gif

Apparently they make a good website and sell parts well, just no real life experience with the parts.

At least you are in the right place here. Plenty of knowledgeable folks.

I know George and I both ship internationally is you can't buy locally.

Posted by: cosm3os Mar 13 2020, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 12 2020, 06:11 PM) *

First off, if they dorked it up, they should be on the hook.

Secondly,
Support your 914world vendors
I have 2 flavors
Inexpensive too

Heck
I'd bet AA even has these

The right part has the right fuel flow. May not be an issue, but you don't know until you find out.

https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/search/?q=fuel+filter


Is the half metal one ok for carbs?

Posted by: buck toenges Mar 13 2020, 12:57 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 12 2020, 07:11 PM) *

First off, if they dorked it up, they should be on the hook.

Secondly,
Support your 914world vendors
I have 2 flavors
Inexpensive too

Heck
I'd bet AA even has these

The right part has the right fuel flow. May not be an issue, but you don't know until you find out.

https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/search/?q=fuel+filter


Can you tell me if either of these fuel filters have different size inlet and outlet?

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 13 2020, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(cosm3os @ Mar 13 2020, 12:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Mar 12 2020, 06:11 PM) *

First off, if they dorked it up, they should be on the hook.

Secondly,
Support your 914world vendors
I have 2 flavors
Inexpensive too

Heck
I'd bet AA even has these

The right part has the right fuel flow. May not be an issue, but you don't know until you find out.

https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/search/?q=fuel+filter


Is the half metal one ok for carbs?

Yes, it is the current best choice.


Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 13 2020, 08:57 PM

Pretty sure the both do but can confirm in the morning.

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