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Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 17 2020, 09:52 AM
My fingers are raw and my patience is thin,
but I will be at it later today again,
if I can get some purchase or perhaps direction
from the great people here within the teener collection
Is there a secret to getting the firewall side of this thing on the flange?
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2020, 09:55 AM
Helps if the part is flexible. Is this a new or used part?Sounds like something isn't right.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 17 2020, 09:57 AM
Haven't had the pleasure of this fix, but the subtitle of your thread reminds me of 3-4 various fixes I've made to my 914, and the way I felt while doing it—mostly in days before this forum when you had to "figure it out" on your own.
914world 'tis a blessing....
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2020, 09:59 AM
Try rolling the lip over itself, pressing against the ring on the firewall and flipping it back.
Posted by: Olympic 914 Mar 17 2020, 10:00 AM
I used one of those hooks from HF shaped like a shepards staff'
Posted by: TheCabinetmaker Mar 17 2020, 10:07 AM
Coat with glycerine. Install firewall side first, then the rod flange
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 17 2020, 10:18 AM
I used one of those hooks from HF shaped like a shepards staff'
What I'm wondering is if the part is new, if the rubber is too hard. If that is the case DO NOT use anything to pierce the part as you could create a tear of puncture the part. Factory designed it's parts the way they did for a reason. This is why you can't randomly (or by cost) choose materials to make parts. I'm suspecting this may be an issue here.
Posted by: 914e Mar 17 2020, 10:33 AM
Coat with glycerine. Install firewall side first, then the rod flange
Where do you find glycerine? I tried all the local drug stores.
Posted by: 914e Mar 17 2020, 10:47 AM
My fingers are raw and my patience is thin,
but I will be at it later today again,
if I can get some purchase or perhaps direction
from the great people here within the teener collection
Is there a secret to getting the firewall side of this thing on the flange?
I know the feeling, I spent half of Sunday fighting the front upper targa weatherstrip getting it to go into that aluminum trim channel. I still have the passenger side to go. The frustrating part is knowing when it was built nothing took more than a few minutes.
Installing that cover boot is on my list for this weekend. I wonder if I start swearing at now it will pop right on out of fear?
Posted by: Al Meredith Mar 17 2020, 10:54 AM
I've heard the "KY" will work best
Posted by: hndyhrr Mar 17 2020, 11:23 AM
Coat with glycerine. Install firewall side first, then the rod flange
Where do you find glycerine? I tried all the local drug stores.
try a craft store like michaels.
Posted by: bbrock Mar 17 2020, 11:32 AM
Coat with glycerine. Install firewall side first, then the rod flange
Where do you find glycerine? I tried all the local drug stores.
Drug store probably has it, the trick is finding someone who knows where it is. After about a half hour with a clerk's help who asked about every one of his co-workers, he finally found it WAY down on a bottom shelf in the skin care section.
Posted by: cary Mar 17 2020, 12:58 PM
I used one of those hooks from HF shaped like a shepards staff'
Ditto, but grind off the pointy pick end. Then round it on/with the sander.
Seems like, because I'm right handed I finish between the 3 and 5 o'clock
position. My .02c.
Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 17 2020, 01:15 PM
Like the "engine-in" oil cooler seal replacement?
Haven't had the pleasure of this fix, but the subtitle of your thread reminds me of 3-4 various fixes I've made to my 914, and the way I felt while doing it—mostly in days before this forum when you had to "figure it out" on your own.
914world 'tis a blessing....
Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 17 2020, 01:19 PM
Mike,
I believe I bought this from you new, however, i could not find it on your web site today.....?????
Will be swearing all afternoon - may try a little heat (very little) Glycerine and then perhaps a little of the suggested motion-lotion.
Helps if the part is flexible. Is this a new or used part?Sounds like something isn't right.
Posted by: roblav1 Mar 17 2020, 02:06 PM
Palmolive works great when attaching rubber things. Even Marge soaks in it!
Posted by: Alain V. Mar 17 2020, 02:13 PM
Palmolive works great when attaching rubber things. Even Marge soaks in it!
X2 on dish soap.
A little bit goes a long way.
I’ve been a mechanic since the 1980s and always have a little bottle of dish soap on the bench when rubber parts need a little “slick em”
Posted by: wndsrfr Mar 17 2020, 03:58 PM
I used one of those hooks from HF shaped like a shepards staff'
Ditto, but grind off the pointy pick end. Then round it on/with the sander.
Seems like, because I'm right handed I finish between the 3 and 5 o'clock
position. My .02c.
I use a coat hanger wire bent double then made a tight hook to use....
Remember, "assembly of 914 require great peace of mind" ....
Posted by: 914sgofast2 Mar 17 2020, 04:24 PM
Plain old Vaseline Petroleum Jelly also works well and much easier to find than glycerine. You can also use liquid dishwashing soap.
Posted by: r_towle Mar 17 2020, 06:06 PM
What year car/tub is it?
Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 17 2020, 06:54 PM
'74 - 2.0 - 100% stock
What year car/tub is it?
Posted by: r_towle Mar 17 2020, 08:40 PM
Round
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 18 2020, 06:56 AM
Maybe the rim is damaged ?
..... any chance of a picture ?
Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 18 2020, 07:09 AM
Maybe the rim is damaged ?
..... any chance of a picture ?
...check for a buildup of grease, undercoating, paint, etc.
Posted by: StarBear Mar 18 2020, 07:41 AM
Haven't had the pleasure of this fix, but the subtitle of your thread reminds me of 3-4 various fixes I've made to my 914, and the way I felt while doing it—mostly in days before this forum when you had to "figure it out" on your own.
914world 'tis a blessing....
Posted by: jfort Mar 18 2020, 08:18 AM
I know the feeling, I spent half of Sunday fighting the front upper targa weatherstrip getting it to go into that aluminum trim channel. I still have the passenger side to go. The frustrating part is knowing when it was built nothing took more than a few minutes.
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Damn! That targa front strip installation rubber arrived yesterday and is my weekend project. Did it a couple of years ago. Difficult getting it on and it looks like shit. It is pretty much ruined. Hence, the re-try.
A friend suggested wire puller lubricant:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IDEAL-32-oz-Clear-Wire-Pulling-Lubricant/1017915
I am going to try it.
Posted by: IronHillRestorations Mar 18 2020, 08:24 AM
Coat with glycerine. Install firewall side first, then the rod flange
Where do you find glycerine? I tried all the local drug stores.
KY works
Posted by: IronHillRestorations Mar 18 2020, 08:30 AM
Take off the e-brake cable clamp and pull the cable out of the way. Look closely to make sure the retaining ring on the firewall doesn't have some obstruction. I've seen factory seam sealer gooped on one and I don't know how they got that boot on at the factory.
Some parts require strong language for correct installation
Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 18 2020, 10:57 AM
Take off a 15 sec to remove part in order to make the installation easier? Who would do that?
Ok, enough sarcasm - great advice - will try it later today!
Take off the e-brake cable clamp and pull the cable out of the way. Look closely to make sure the retaining ring on the firewall doesn't have some obstruction. I've seen factory seam sealer gooped on one and I don't know how they got that boot on at the factory.
Some parts require strong language for correct installation
Posted by: PCH Mar 18 2020, 01:05 PM
[quote name='jfort' date='Mar 18 2020, 07:18 AM' post='2795311']
I know the feeling, I spent half of Sunday fighting the front upper targa weatherstrip getting it to go into that aluminum trim channel. I still have the passenger side to go. The frustrating part is knowing when it was built nothing took more than a few minutes.
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Damn! That targa front strip installation rubber arrived yesterday and is my weekend project. Did it a couple of years ago. Difficult getting it on and it looks like shit. It is pretty much ruined. Hence, the re-try.
A friend suggested wire puller lubricant:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/IDEAL-32-oz-Clear-Wire-Pulling-Lubricant/1017915
I am going to try it.
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I had the same trouble-except I spent the whole weekend enlisting neighbors' help as I tried to make it work. Finally, I figured out that the corner is made incorrectly and it was never going to be right.
I swallowed hard and ordered the expensive Porsche rubber. When the rubber came to the office, I brought it home and thought I would see how it fits. In fifteen minutes all of the rubber was in and it fit beautifully!
I'm now very discerning as to what I buy aftermarket.
Posted by: ctc911ctc Mar 18 2020, 06:53 PM
*****DONE*****
Of all of the suggestions, the one that worked best was:
REMOVE THE BRAKE CABLE CLAMP 
That part was just enough of an annoyance to generate trouble in getting the part mounted.
Second Suggestion that helped:
Turn the lip inside out
Third suggestion that helped:
Use a 90degree pick to pull/push/prod the part into place 
Last suggestion that assisted:
Use Lube - not sure it was necessary, but i used some Aqua Lube! 
Posted by: 6s219 Mar 19 2020, 07:31 PM
I feel your pain and just yesterday went through the exact same situation! In my case, I found it was easiest if you disconnect the shift rod coupler that is concealed inside the boot, use a heat gun to make the rubber boot more pliable, slide it over the retainer ring on the firewall and use your thumb to fit it over the mounting ring.
On the 914 Facebook page, someone suggested put the boot inside out, put it over the retainer ring and pull it forward. I don’t know if that Way would work but it’s an idea.
Finally, another suggestion was for a member George from the 914 World FB page,
“ The problem with the shift boot is its too short and often time "pops" off when shifting into 2nd or 4th. Use a stock 914 tie rod boot. The diameter is the same and it gives you all the throw you need to shift”. Here is the photo sent with his reply.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Mar 19 2020, 08:53 PM
I feel your pain and just yesterday went through the exact same situation! In my case, I found it was easiest if you disconnect the shift rod coupler that is concealed inside the boot, use a heat gun to make the rubber boot more pliable, slide it over the retainer ring on the firewall and use your thumb to fit it over the mounting ring.
On the 914 Facebook page, someone suggested put the boot inside out, put it over the retainer ring and pull it forward. I don’t know if that Way would work but it’s an idea.
Finally, another suggestion was for a member George from the 914 World FB page,
“ The problem with the shift boot is its too short and often time "pops" off when shifting into 2nd or 4th. Use a stock 914 tie rod boot. The diameter is the same and it gives you all the throw you need to shift”. Here is the photo sent with his reply.
Is the boot shortened ?
Posted by: 6s219 Mar 20 2020, 12:57 AM
I feel your pain and just yesterday went through the exact same situation! In my case, I found it was easiest if you disconnect the shift rod coupler that is concealed inside the boot, use a heat gun to make the rubber boot more pliable, slide it over the retainer ring on the firewall and use your thumb to fit it over the mounting ring.
On the 914 Facebook page, someone suggested put the boot inside out, put it over the retainer ring and pull it forward. I don’t know if that Way would work but it’s an idea.
Finally, another suggestion was for a member George from the 914 World FB page,
“ The problem with the shift boot is its too short and often time "pops" off when shifting into 2nd or 4th. Use a stock 914 tie rod boot. The diameter is the same and it gives you all the throw you need to shift”. Here is the photo sent with his reply.
Is the boot shortened ?
It is my understanding that a tie rod boot diameter is the same and dose not need to be cut.
Posted by: Olympic 914 Mar 20 2020, 08:46 AM
I had a problem with the boot slipping off when shifting, after all the trouble of installing it.
I wrapped a zip tie around the firewall end to keep it in place.
Cheap insurance..
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