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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Top Secret 914 Project!

Posted by: oakdalecurtis Apr 1 2020, 02:03 AM

You read it here first! In a Classified, Top Secret build project done by aerospace engineers for a wealthy benefactor, a Merlin V12 race motor was removed from a P-51 race plane and then fitted into the rear of a specially designed and stretched 914 body. The supercharged race engine used in this project had previously been modified to produce over 3000 horse power! This is the same type of engine that powers many of the race planes at the annual Reno Unlimited Airplane Races. Almost every mechanical component in the powerful donor Merlin engine was modified from it's original air race flight configuration. These modifications were needed to allow the huge V12 motor to barely fit into the uniquely prepared, strengthened and lengthened 914 body. Here's a Top Secret, never seen before side picture/diagram of the car:
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When the 914/Merlin hybrid was finally completed, the car was transported for initial testing, using an enclosed trailer, from it's top secret build location to the Bonneville Salt Flats. The first test runs of the car were to be done at night. Initial night testing was planned so as to reduce the chance of unwanted outsiders catching a glimpse of this revolutionary 914/Merlin monster car before it was ready for public viewing.
There was one small, unanticipated technical problem, however, discovered during the very first test run. Since the mass of the huge engine was greater than the weight of the entire 914 body, when the driver punched the throttle on the initial run, the tremendous torque put out by the massive V12 caused the Merlin engine to stay still, and the lightweight 914's body to rotate around it! The engineers are desperately trying to find a fix...... cheer.gif

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 1 2020, 02:37 AM

This is what you do when money is no object, love the idea, but WOW

Posted by: Tbrown4x4 Apr 1 2020, 02:51 AM

If this was posted on any other day than April 1st...………….

Posted by: mepstein Apr 1 2020, 06:48 AM

I think it's Jeffrey's car. He said he made one small modification from stock.

Posted by: bretth Apr 1 2020, 07:44 AM

Oh my god that's ugly. April 1st it is.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Apr 1 2020, 08:30 AM

I see additional wheel lugs.
what trans? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 1 2020, 08:39 AM

I can beat that.. I just need a bigger turbo... biggrin.gif

Nice April 1 joke. I was just watching some bits on The Beast (Merlin powered). Interesting car with a more interesting owner!

Posted by: Krieger Apr 1 2020, 08:41 AM

lol-2.gif this is the best thing all week!

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 1 2020, 08:46 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 1 2020, 10:30 AM) *

I see additional wheel lugs.
what trans? biggrin.gif

Stock 914.... or was it beetle auto stick??

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 1 2020, 09:09 AM

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Apr 1 2020, 01:03 AM) *
You read it here first!

Nice try but the butchered shadow under the car is a dead giveaway.

I'm gonna call her "Photoshop" ...
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Posted by: stownsen914 Apr 1 2020, 09:14 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 1 2020, 10:30 AM) *

I see additional wheel lugs.
what trans? biggrin.gif


There isn't a trans that can withstand that power/torque, so I heard it's direct drive, sprint car style! Makes those traffic light situations a real biatch!

Posted by: Spoke Apr 1 2020, 09:29 AM

It looks pretty good with the 911 targa roll over bar.

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 1 2020, 10:12 AM

Got me I was still operating in March midset blink.gif

Posted by: richardL Apr 1 2020, 10:43 AM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 1 2020, 07:39 AM) *

I was just watching some bits on The Beast (Merlin powered). Interesting car with a more interesting owner!


I actually saw that car at Epsom Downs (horse) Race Course when i was a kid - simply astonishing

Posted by: Jamie Apr 1 2020, 11:30 AM

QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Apr 1 2020, 12:51 AM) *

If this was posted on any other day than April 1st...………….

Then Jay Leno would be calling to buy it, I bet it will "fly!" WTF.gif

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Apr 1 2020, 11:33 AM

Missed the exhaust ports out the rear quarter panels rolleyes.gif

Posted by: davep Apr 1 2020, 11:37 AM

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Apr 1 2020, 12:03 AM) *

There was one small, unanticipated technical problem, however, discovered during the very first test run. Since the mass of the huge engine was greater than the weight of the entire 914 body, when the driver punched the throttle on the initial run, the tremendous torque put out by the massive V12 caused the Merlin engine to stay still, and the lightweight 914's body to rotate around it!

A fellow I worked for used the V12 engines (Merlin & Packard) in hydrofoil racing some 40 years ago. Flipping the boat was one problem when cracking the throttle too fast. The other outcome was to spin the prop into a ball since the shaft could rotate faster than the tips of the prop. He had a lot of stories to tell about the use of these engines. Warming them up slowly was necessary to keep oil pressure from blowing out weak sections of the case. These engines were not really designed for rebuilding since the expected service life of the engine greatly exceeded the expected life of the airframe; wartime naturally.

Posted by: oakdalecurtis Apr 1 2020, 03:54 PM

“ I actually saw that car at Epsom Downs (horse) Race Course when i was a kid - simply astonishing”
That’s a pretty neat trick since the whole story is a FOMI....
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Posted by: Betty Apr 1 2020, 04:12 PM

But I want to BEEEELIEEEEVE! first.gif

Posted by: windforfun Apr 1 2020, 04:28 PM

"The engineers are desperately trying to find a fix."

Very heavy driver or passenger. Either that or add exhaust powered thrusters to prevent body rotation.

Multiple kegs of beer on the passenger side where beer weight is opposite to crankshaft rotational torque vector.

Posted by: bkrantz Apr 1 2020, 08:07 PM

A 914 on salt? Are you crazy?

Posted by: oakdalecurtis Apr 1 2020, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Apr 1 2020, 06:07 PM) *

A 914 on salt? Are you crazy?

It supposed to go so fast that it would “float over” the salt....

Posted by: cali914 Apr 1 2020, 11:15 PM

looks like a 914 limo

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 2 2020, 08:22 AM

QUOTE(davep @ Apr 1 2020, 10:37 AM) *

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Apr 1 2020, 12:03 AM) *

There was one small, unanticipated technical problem, however, discovered during the very first test run. Since the mass of the huge engine was greater than the weight of the entire 914 body, when the driver punched the throttle on the initial run, the tremendous torque put out by the massive V12 caused the Merlin engine to stay still, and the lightweight 914's body to rotate around it!

A fellow I worked for used the V12 engines (Merlin & Packard) in hydrofoil racing some 40 years ago. Flipping the boat was one problem when cracking the throttle too fast. The other outcome was to spin the prop into a ball since the shaft could rotate faster than the tips of the prop. He had a lot of stories to tell about the use of these engines. Warming them up slowly was necessary to keep oil pressure from blowing out weak sections of the case. These engines were not really designed for rebuilding since the expected service life of the engine greatly exceeded the expected life of the airframe; wartime naturally.

This was true of the P-51's, also. Many a P-51 Jock's were killed on take off. You weren't supposed to apply full power on take off. Hands down, the sexiest sounding engine ever! Next to a Porsche anyways. biggrin.gif

Posted by: richardL Apr 2 2020, 09:12 AM

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Apr 1 2020, 02:54 PM) *

“ I actually saw that car at Epsom Downs (horse) Race Course when i was a kid - simply astonishing”
That’s a pretty neat trick since the whole story is a FOMI....
chair.gif


perhaps if you read the line I quoted - I was referring to 'The Beast' which very much did exist, and still does

Posted by: oakdalecurtis Apr 2 2020, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(richardL @ Apr 2 2020, 07:12 AM) *

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Apr 1 2020, 02:54 PM) *

“ I actually saw that car at Epsom Downs (horse) Race Course when i was a kid - simply astonishing”
That’s a pretty neat trick since the whole story is a FOMI....
chair.gif


perhaps if you read the line I quoted - I was referring to 'The Beast' which very much did exist, and still does


My apologies richard..... beerchug.gif

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 2 2020, 12:17 PM

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Posted by: oakdalecurtis Apr 2 2020, 12:55 PM

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But can we fit a 914 body over it!

Posted by: richardL Apr 3 2020, 01:27 PM

Here is The Beast at Epsom Downs Race Course in the '70s:

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Posted by: Carbon-14 Jun 16 2020, 12:20 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZIU54WYxw


A new idea, RR V12 into about any, thing.

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Power to weight. Cp.
Fun and games with Dan Gurney at Bud Moore’s shop in 1966.
Photo shows Dan found a use for one of the leftover 427 SOHC engines.

https://youtu.be/exyzEFrmLuM?t=69

In other news of racer's speed engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0rXyMwFMUI

Posted by: 914_7T3 Jun 16 2020, 03:16 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Apr 1 2020, 05:48 AM) *

I think it's Jeffrey's car. He said he made one small modification from stock.


@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825

Just saw this thread and yes, felt that a slight bump in hp was in order. Also thought it would be cool to double up on the number of cylinders that the 6 conversions are running!

The garage extension is almost complete.....

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Posted by: Beebo Kanelle Jun 16 2020, 07:46 PM

Funny, I always saw the Carrera GT as a updated 914, stretched to accommodate the V-10

Posted by: Carbon-14 Jun 16 2020, 11:03 PM

More fun and games, exposing a 914-RR12 to the salt.

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An ejection pod might be well considered, auto 3speed transax.
This is rediculous, the radiators mounted far forward, a venturi on the bottom.
There is another, earlier, thread on this mad scratching.

This is not too nutty, Ferrari transax. A 914 + big engine.
+500 hp LS has a top end of 190 - 195, maybe.
https://engineswapdepot.com/?p=56676

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he he

Limousines can go some fast with a V8.
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