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Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 01:03 PM

I bought these from a local shop going out of business.. They appear to be ssi 2.0 but the flange is only about 1/8" thick.. Could these be early ssi's ? I will ultimately be selling these and likely weld a new flange on for the new owner to be but not having a type 4 set up here I want to make sure that they are truly 2.0. They are in fantastic shape except for the flange.. Very odd for sure. Attached Image

Posted by: 914werke Apr 23 2020, 01:04 PM

those are early SSI's 2.0L versions. ID'd buy the mild steel or lwr grade SS flanges that have now rusted away. Later vers had SS flanges

EDIT: LMK when, I have a few customers seeking those & can weld new flanges up

Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 01:18 PM

QUOTE(914werke @ Apr 23 2020, 11:04 AM) *

those are early SSI's 2.0L versions. ID'd buy the mild steel or lwr grade SS flanges that have now rusted away. Later vers had SS flanges

EDIT: LMK when, I have a few customers seeking those & can weld new flanges up



@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=453 what do you think they are worth as is? I am going to have a fresh batch of laser cut flanges in a few weeks.. It would cost me about $125 for flanges and my time to repair these..

Posted by: mepstein Apr 23 2020, 01:19 PM

$600
Just my opinion. smile.gif

Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 04:09 PM

That isn't bad.. Fixed are they worth $850? I know last summer a used set sold for 1100.. They were a newer model but in similar condition less the flange issue..

Posted by: 914_7T3 Apr 23 2020, 04:18 PM

A new set sold for below their true value (IMHO) at $900 here on the forum just a few days ago if that helps establish an upper value.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=344948

Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 04:23 PM

That does help.. Thanks..

Posted by: mepstein Apr 23 2020, 04:47 PM

QUOTE(914_7T3 @ Apr 23 2020, 06:18 PM) *

A new set sold for below their true value (IMHO) at $900 here on the forum just a few days ago if that helps establish an upper value.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=344948


That was a really good deal. The new ones in a box go for quite a bit more.

Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 23 2020, 04:53 PM

Shhit, I paid $200 for mine brand new 20+ yrs ago.

Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 05:10 PM

Lol when I started driving way back gas was $1.... Wait it is again here.. How did that happen?

Posted by: 914werke Apr 23 2020, 05:22 PM

Have they been checked for cracks?

Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2020, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(914werke @ Apr 23 2020, 03:22 PM) *

Have they been checked for cracks?



On the bolt flanges to the heads? Yes.. No issues

Posted by: Mark Henry Apr 24 2020, 09:49 AM

Yes early SSI's had mild steel flanges, I had a set that I had to make new flanges for back in early 2000. BTW I could be wrong but the extension tube on the top exchanger I've only seen with early SSI's

It's best if you can pressure test them, I've never seen it personally but IIRC there was a thread a while back where the primary tube had split inside the exchanger.

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 24 2020, 12:57 PM

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BTW I could be wrong but the extension tube on the top exchanger I've only seen with early SSI's

You could buy em separately..
I have a pair that has SS flanges, butt the head ears are Fuched.. w00t.gif

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Apr 24 2020, 02:38 PM

I'd be very judicious about those, the pipes look sketchy. Up in the salt belt those things can be bad.

Posted by: mb911 Apr 24 2020, 02:53 PM

QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Apr 24 2020, 12:38 PM) *

I'd be very judicious about those, the pipes look sketchy. Up in the salt belt those things can be bad.



So the history here is that these were in my 1st 914-6 conversion car from new mexico.. I just bought the roller 21 years ago.. The heat exchangers remained in the shop for the last 21 years and new mexico prior to that. The car never ran here and was previously owned by a GI that got relocated. I bought the car only as I said and converted it to a 6

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